This was the advanced ledges, zaps class taught by Alex Niederer and Nigel Parker and then some of my own thoughts on the manner. Including instruction from 12 yr old Ryon Lands
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@TrialsProgression Жыл бұрын
Full Zap online course available at www.trialsprogression.com/zap
@RobinAdamsOsteopath2 жыл бұрын
Wow - brilliant vid. Watching your break down and the coaching/demo from a 12 year old gives such brilliant explanation and inspiration. I'm only 57 - got a lot of catching up to do! Loving it!
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Sometimes I wonder about my little white board drawings. 😂
@jamesholbrook36482 жыл бұрын
I was able to finally figure out the relationship between loading the flywheel and unloading the suspension by watching the super slow motion videos. Being able to hear the individual hits of the engine vs when the tires leave the ground opened my eyes.
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
Those light bulb 💡 moments are sweet🔥😎. Great to hear man 👊
@robertbrown-bt6zh2 жыл бұрын
Well done, your detailed explanation is allowing people to understand what the pros are attempting to communicate.
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks Bob 😉
@treeturtle93782 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Tom. I love the way you analyse & break it down to the grass roots level. It’s particularly valuable to know the common mistakes we all make while learning, and more importantly how to correct them. 👍 Thanks for sharing you experiences.
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. Thanks for commenting 😉
@treborheminway38142 жыл бұрын
Great info and progress.
@danielwade56422 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I'm fortunate to be in FTA with Alex so I get to watch & learn from him on a monthly basis.
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
That's awesome!
@travisjuif57132 жыл бұрын
Tom, thanks for recording these sessions. TTC training days is a must for any trials rider especially in the early stages of learning. It’s interesting the difference in training on the zaps between how Neil Price teaches it and what we learned in TN. Both are applicable but it would be interesting to hear Neils perspective on the differences between the 2 different techniques to accomplish the same thing.
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
He basically said, McDonald's arch is good for beginners learning since there's more time. The short run up is good once technique is dialed and when space is limited. It's a blending of different styles.
@offthehookdesignandfabdotc25822 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!! Love your videos!!!
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man 😀
@Zhaganashi7 ай бұрын
This is awesome! Good work!
@TrialsProgression
7 ай бұрын
Thank you
@fanbmxc002 жыл бұрын
I kind of felt the same after the TTC classes. Great job putting your thoughts and observations to a drawing!
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. Were you just there this year?
@shaynebluebelt2 жыл бұрын
All ur vids are so helpful. Good job.
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
Awweee. Thank you 👊
@yakojumps2 жыл бұрын
This was an excellent video thanks
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
Hey you're welcome. Hope it helps 👊
@mandyandmaxbird2780 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for including the attemps that did not work as well, i agree it is very good to see for learning purposes 😊
@TrialsProgression
Жыл бұрын
I keep hearing this, include your failures. 😆 it's a humbling process to display what doesn't work to the world, 🤷but I agree it is helpful.
@lensmith18642 жыл бұрын
Dude thanks for the video! This stuff is awesome! Beginner trials guy here but I like the stuff you are talking about. I always hit my front tire too high!
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. 👊 If you go back and watch my previous zap video where I went over the bars you'll see why I have this issue of hitting the front too high as well. Fear of low and possible issue. But it's not warrented. Just got to convince myself of that. Lol You really have to teach your mind and body what you want it to do to overcome certain fears like going over the bars again.
@alanporter9556 Жыл бұрын
So cool to see that 12yr old show off his skills! Good video
@TrialsProgression
Жыл бұрын
👍
@RogerBadgerDSFlyer Жыл бұрын
Nicely done! Great explanations. Seeing how you adjusted from your previously learned technique of planting the front then popping (nicely described by you as the M) to the different technique of driving the front in and then up, in one continuous flow, was a great demonstration. It takes some brain gym to recognise and then do that. Nicely explained video. I look forward to revisiting this video when my newbie skills progress to that level.
@TrialsProgression
Жыл бұрын
Hey thanks! Yes I was committed to learning this and frustrated by how they seemed to be doing it differently. Check out this clutch control one which will put you on the right path. kzread.info/dash/bejne/iYWg27yIh9y1lNY.html
@RogerBadgerDSFlyer
Жыл бұрын
@@TrialsProgression Thanks for that. I watched that video a while ago but it was worth watching again. I’m ready to try the clutch pop after wheelie, in preparation for zap in future 👍
@briansmale54572 жыл бұрын
Good stuff mate, glad i found your channel :)
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Glad to have you. 👊
@Coastal-rsidedown2 жыл бұрын
Very nice breakdown on technique.
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@Jk-wi1ij2 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for the video will be trying this Saturday when I’m out
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. Awesome, get after it 👊
@armandov24242 жыл бұрын
LOL the 12 years old kit teaching was a great touch. :-)
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
He's a really good rider. Humility learns from any and everyone. 😉
@armandov2424
2 жыл бұрын
@@TrialsProgression yeah, no doubt. He'll probably be a pro in a few years.
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
@@armandov2424 that's the way it's looking. He'll be doing an interview on the channel here in a few weeks. 😃 Ryon Land.
@JJMeyer-ox2hc2 жыл бұрын
Great video! This is about where I am at now, I know what to do, but I just can't get that satisfying sound of rpm build up. Something that's helped me a bit with building the rpm is to full fist the throttle instead of one finger on the brake. Gives a bit more wrist rotation.
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
Great idea. Yeah, I'm same way. RPM anxiety I guess.
@jodybliss57252 жыл бұрын
There are two Zap techniques. First one Alex shows is the raise then lower version and requires more precision with balance, timing, clutch and especially requires more body English (think lifting bars). Good for smaller obstacles and especially on down hill ones. The second Zap is a continuous movement where, as you describe, the front wheel lifts then impacts the obstacle never dropping. Perfect for uphills. Ray Peters teaches both techniques.
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
Right on. I never knew there were 2 types till I got here to TTC. using - clutch in - to help with front wheel placement was huge to learn. Previously, I was only on throttle for 1st wheelie and not very accurate
@ianhiggins62032 жыл бұрын
Ah, brill. I'm 2 years behind you & following in your tyre tracks!. Just started this year. Had a go at some little drop off's & wheelies last time out. I give this a shot in a month or so.
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
thanks for watching. I spent way too much time on these zaps in my 1st year. It wasn't worth it. Looks cool, but turns and ride technique give way more return on investment. But give it a go for fun. Just don't fall into the trap of trying things over and over that are outside your skill window 👌
@ianhiggins6203
2 жыл бұрын
@@TrialsProgression thanks for the tip, Saw you doing quick turns too, that's a thing I can try.
@TRIALandMUSIC2 ай бұрын
nice one - thanks! - keep it up - cheers!
@TrialsProgression
2 ай бұрын
Thank you
@fprintf2 жыл бұрын
With the McDonalds approach it is almost like you are emulating a double blip, just using the clutch instead of the throttle. Perfectly fine tool but as you found out, likely not what they wanted you to take away. Thanks for the breakdown. I definitely have to get myself to some training, it is super apparent that they know what they are talking about but also that they know how to teach it (and through the anxieties that adults bring to this sport). Massive grin watching your 12 year old instructor too!
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
Riding with young master Ryon, might have been my favorite part of the weekend. 😀 Yes, when you are there, you just do it bc they say to do it and they have many good spotters. It breaks you past your comfort zone, but definitely elevates you. Often when you watch the pros do it, you're thinking, oh yeah sure, Alex can. But when you see a random Jimmy do it, you think, shoot, if can try, so can I. Or when you do it better than random Jeff, then you get the boost of confidence. The pack, traveling and learning together always goes further. See if Ryan young trials schools is coming to your area. Where you live?
@fprintf
2 жыл бұрын
Removed post.
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
@@fprintf awesome! Sounds like a solid summer of learning 👊
@qaz98122 Жыл бұрын
God damn you are analyst, same as my approach i analyze how pro do it, and you are correct they really take for granted on how they do things especially on clutch and throttle control.
@TrialsProgression
Жыл бұрын
🤣 Yep. Always trying to figure it out since they make it look so easy. 🤔 And when they have been doing it for so long, they often forget all the elements that go into it.
@TrialsProgression2 жыл бұрын
It's hard to capture everything. So many things going on with zaps. I've got a playlist on some of my learnings along the last year with zaps. kzread.info/head/PLr9WXGyccAG_CZWY1QYx3FXTxu9FYhTRi
@hughrobertson-payne9142 жыл бұрын
Great vid as usual Tom… I’m not there yet, but the seemingly consistent revs - is it because your clutching as you hit the log with the front then releasing again, thus changing momentum and power that way, rather than with the throttle? Looks good! 👌🏻
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
I think so. Clutch in even before hit with front, rev up just before front touches and release clutch after suspension compresses to gain rebound and engine drive/pop
@bcaron35352 жыл бұрын
With the slow motion capabilities of cell phones, I recommend getting a riding buddy to record you as you practice. Especially useful if you can record it done correctly to compare to someone who needs help. Excellent tool to see what you are doing wrong.
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
For sure 👊
@yusufherlambang398011 ай бұрын
Mantapp
@GlobalEnduroMedia Жыл бұрын
Megga that mate
@TrialsProgression
Жыл бұрын
👍
@mitchrichardson7442 жыл бұрын
More slow mo! Watching the pro was happening too fast.
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
Good point. I'll work on that for future videos 👍
@chrisb2222 жыл бұрын
lol i used to ride with Ryon until he left me in his dust lol
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
Kid is amazing
@mitchrichardson7442 жыл бұрын
Less little shorties making it look easy please. (Kidding)
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
I know right😂 think how we felt. 🙄 Then I asked him how long he's been riding. 10 years!. And lots of that with good coaching and an older brother pushing him. So there is that 🤷
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Full Zap online course available at www.trialsprogression.com/zap
Wow - brilliant vid. Watching your break down and the coaching/demo from a 12 year old gives such brilliant explanation and inspiration. I'm only 57 - got a lot of catching up to do! Loving it!
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Sometimes I wonder about my little white board drawings. 😂
I was able to finally figure out the relationship between loading the flywheel and unloading the suspension by watching the super slow motion videos. Being able to hear the individual hits of the engine vs when the tires leave the ground opened my eyes.
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
Those light bulb 💡 moments are sweet🔥😎. Great to hear man 👊
Well done, your detailed explanation is allowing people to understand what the pros are attempting to communicate.
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks Bob 😉
Excellent video Tom. I love the way you analyse & break it down to the grass roots level. It’s particularly valuable to know the common mistakes we all make while learning, and more importantly how to correct them. 👍 Thanks for sharing you experiences.
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. Thanks for commenting 😉
Great info and progress.
Excellent video. I'm fortunate to be in FTA with Alex so I get to watch & learn from him on a monthly basis.
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
That's awesome!
Tom, thanks for recording these sessions. TTC training days is a must for any trials rider especially in the early stages of learning. It’s interesting the difference in training on the zaps between how Neil Price teaches it and what we learned in TN. Both are applicable but it would be interesting to hear Neils perspective on the differences between the 2 different techniques to accomplish the same thing.
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
He basically said, McDonald's arch is good for beginners learning since there's more time. The short run up is good once technique is dialed and when space is limited. It's a blending of different styles.
Thank you so much!!! Love your videos!!!
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man 😀
This is awesome! Good work!
@TrialsProgression
7 ай бұрын
Thank you
I kind of felt the same after the TTC classes. Great job putting your thoughts and observations to a drawing!
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. Were you just there this year?
All ur vids are so helpful. Good job.
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
Awweee. Thank you 👊
This was an excellent video thanks
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
Hey you're welcome. Hope it helps 👊
Thanks for including the attemps that did not work as well, i agree it is very good to see for learning purposes 😊
@TrialsProgression
Жыл бұрын
I keep hearing this, include your failures. 😆 it's a humbling process to display what doesn't work to the world, 🤷but I agree it is helpful.
Dude thanks for the video! This stuff is awesome! Beginner trials guy here but I like the stuff you are talking about. I always hit my front tire too high!
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. 👊 If you go back and watch my previous zap video where I went over the bars you'll see why I have this issue of hitting the front too high as well. Fear of low and possible issue. But it's not warrented. Just got to convince myself of that. Lol You really have to teach your mind and body what you want it to do to overcome certain fears like going over the bars again.
So cool to see that 12yr old show off his skills! Good video
@TrialsProgression
Жыл бұрын
👍
Nicely done! Great explanations. Seeing how you adjusted from your previously learned technique of planting the front then popping (nicely described by you as the M) to the different technique of driving the front in and then up, in one continuous flow, was a great demonstration. It takes some brain gym to recognise and then do that. Nicely explained video. I look forward to revisiting this video when my newbie skills progress to that level.
@TrialsProgression
Жыл бұрын
Hey thanks! Yes I was committed to learning this and frustrated by how they seemed to be doing it differently. Check out this clutch control one which will put you on the right path. kzread.info/dash/bejne/iYWg27yIh9y1lNY.html
@RogerBadgerDSFlyer
Жыл бұрын
@@TrialsProgression Thanks for that. I watched that video a while ago but it was worth watching again. I’m ready to try the clutch pop after wheelie, in preparation for zap in future 👍
Good stuff mate, glad i found your channel :)
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Glad to have you. 👊
Very nice breakdown on technique.
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
Thanks again for the video will be trying this Saturday when I’m out
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. Awesome, get after it 👊
LOL the 12 years old kit teaching was a great touch. :-)
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
He's a really good rider. Humility learns from any and everyone. 😉
@armandov2424
2 жыл бұрын
@@TrialsProgression yeah, no doubt. He'll probably be a pro in a few years.
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
@@armandov2424 that's the way it's looking. He'll be doing an interview on the channel here in a few weeks. 😃 Ryon Land.
Great video! This is about where I am at now, I know what to do, but I just can't get that satisfying sound of rpm build up. Something that's helped me a bit with building the rpm is to full fist the throttle instead of one finger on the brake. Gives a bit more wrist rotation.
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
Great idea. Yeah, I'm same way. RPM anxiety I guess.
There are two Zap techniques. First one Alex shows is the raise then lower version and requires more precision with balance, timing, clutch and especially requires more body English (think lifting bars). Good for smaller obstacles and especially on down hill ones. The second Zap is a continuous movement where, as you describe, the front wheel lifts then impacts the obstacle never dropping. Perfect for uphills. Ray Peters teaches both techniques.
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
Right on. I never knew there were 2 types till I got here to TTC. using - clutch in - to help with front wheel placement was huge to learn. Previously, I was only on throttle for 1st wheelie and not very accurate
Ah, brill. I'm 2 years behind you & following in your tyre tracks!. Just started this year. Had a go at some little drop off's & wheelies last time out. I give this a shot in a month or so.
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
thanks for watching. I spent way too much time on these zaps in my 1st year. It wasn't worth it. Looks cool, but turns and ride technique give way more return on investment. But give it a go for fun. Just don't fall into the trap of trying things over and over that are outside your skill window 👌
@ianhiggins6203
2 жыл бұрын
@@TrialsProgression thanks for the tip, Saw you doing quick turns too, that's a thing I can try.
nice one - thanks! - keep it up - cheers!
@TrialsProgression
2 ай бұрын
Thank you
With the McDonalds approach it is almost like you are emulating a double blip, just using the clutch instead of the throttle. Perfectly fine tool but as you found out, likely not what they wanted you to take away. Thanks for the breakdown. I definitely have to get myself to some training, it is super apparent that they know what they are talking about but also that they know how to teach it (and through the anxieties that adults bring to this sport). Massive grin watching your 12 year old instructor too!
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
Riding with young master Ryon, might have been my favorite part of the weekend. 😀 Yes, when you are there, you just do it bc they say to do it and they have many good spotters. It breaks you past your comfort zone, but definitely elevates you. Often when you watch the pros do it, you're thinking, oh yeah sure, Alex can. But when you see a random Jimmy do it, you think, shoot, if can try, so can I. Or when you do it better than random Jeff, then you get the boost of confidence. The pack, traveling and learning together always goes further. See if Ryan young trials schools is coming to your area. Where you live?
@fprintf
2 жыл бұрын
Removed post.
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
@@fprintf awesome! Sounds like a solid summer of learning 👊
God damn you are analyst, same as my approach i analyze how pro do it, and you are correct they really take for granted on how they do things especially on clutch and throttle control.
@TrialsProgression
Жыл бұрын
🤣 Yep. Always trying to figure it out since they make it look so easy. 🤔 And when they have been doing it for so long, they often forget all the elements that go into it.
It's hard to capture everything. So many things going on with zaps. I've got a playlist on some of my learnings along the last year with zaps. kzread.info/head/PLr9WXGyccAG_CZWY1QYx3FXTxu9FYhTRi
Great vid as usual Tom… I’m not there yet, but the seemingly consistent revs - is it because your clutching as you hit the log with the front then releasing again, thus changing momentum and power that way, rather than with the throttle? Looks good! 👌🏻
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
I think so. Clutch in even before hit with front, rev up just before front touches and release clutch after suspension compresses to gain rebound and engine drive/pop
With the slow motion capabilities of cell phones, I recommend getting a riding buddy to record you as you practice. Especially useful if you can record it done correctly to compare to someone who needs help. Excellent tool to see what you are doing wrong.
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
For sure 👊
Mantapp
Megga that mate
@TrialsProgression
Жыл бұрын
👍
More slow mo! Watching the pro was happening too fast.
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
Good point. I'll work on that for future videos 👍
lol i used to ride with Ryon until he left me in his dust lol
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
Kid is amazing
Less little shorties making it look easy please. (Kidding)
@TrialsProgression
2 жыл бұрын
I know right😂 think how we felt. 🙄 Then I asked him how long he's been riding. 10 years!. And lots of that with good coaching and an older brother pushing him. So there is that 🤷