Zack Snyder's Justice League (2021) VS The Avengers (2012)

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Zack Snyder's Justice League was released on HBO Max and took the world by surprise. And in today's versus video we are going to compare it to the Marvel Cinematic Universe's first crossover event The Avengers. Will Zack Snyder's Justice League win or loose against Joss Whedon's The Avengers?
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  • @EricCarter12
    @EricCarter122 жыл бұрын

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  • @tombailey837

    @tombailey837

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hey Eric. Did you see the film 'King Richard'?

  • @bobertroth9134

    @bobertroth9134

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hey Eric, I asked this in your Dr. Strange video, but I thought I'd ask it here since it's seemed more relevant this time around. But have you seen MauLer's video on ZSJL? If so what are your thoughts on it? I'm just asking because he had some critical things to say about the movie to say the least as well as some points of criticism towards why people are praising it and you being someone who really enjoyed it, I'm curious to hear your thoughts on that video. This isn't me trying to sh*t on you at all, I typically really enjoy your stuff and am a subscriber of yours, but I was just curious about thoughts on it if you had any. Also do you think you'll do a vs video between ZSJL and BVS? That'd be a suggestion I'd give to you for future videos.

  • @kpvssharkpuppet8734

    @kpvssharkpuppet8734

    2 жыл бұрын

    Do Suicide Squad 2016 vs the Suicide Squad 2021

  • @etabiansosin

    @etabiansosin

    2 жыл бұрын

    What if The Russo Brothers directed the first Avengers Movie and Age of Ultron?

  • @tombailey837

    @tombailey837

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@etabiansosin Then it would have been better

  • @mr.moviemafia
    @mr.moviemafia2 жыл бұрын

    “You only need to watch two movies (Man of Steel and BVS) to see ZSJL” I think this would work, but I’d argue the experience is WAY more meaningful if you watch Wonder Woman 2017

  • @jtjdrums

    @jtjdrums

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm looking forward to the day I can watch MoS, BvS UE, the Ayercut of SS, WW and ZSJL in a marathon. I've got a feeling that's going to be an almost unbeatable cbm viewing experience.

  • @nothingherezero7182

    @nothingherezero7182

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@gatsbygoodwood2575 there was actually a Stepphenwolf that was leak or something I think

  • @marcozolo3536

    @marcozolo3536

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@gatsbygoodwood2575 the Ayer cut would be good if using ZSJL Steppenwolf for consistency sake.

  • @sunsetman22

    @sunsetman22

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@gatsbygoodwood2575 the one problem I find with that is when Alfred says there have been "no attacks" since Batman talked to Luthor. absolutely no mention of what happened at Midway City at the end of Suicide Squad. if anything, I hope the Ayer Cut contains the explanation as to why the whole situation with Enchantress and Incubus (or Steppenwolf) managed to fly under the radar.

  • @DarthTingleBinks

    @DarthTingleBinks

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sunsetman22 I have my own head canon about that whole thing, and that is that Suicide Squad would take place more or less concurrently with ZSJL. We don't know when exactly Steppenwolf attacked Themyscira, and for all we know, it could hage been during the 6-12 month period between BvS and ZSJL. That leaves plenty of time for Steppenwolf to do whatever he does in the Ayer Cut with the box of Man (the one Cyborg always has), and then have the box be returned to S.T.A.R. Labs and in turn, Cyborg. Hell, for all we know, that could happen BEFORE he attacks Themyscira. As I was recently re-informed, Zeus hid Themyscira from the Earth, meaning that when Steppenwolf went there, he might not have known it was Earth in the firdt place. Darkseid only battled on Themyscira in the history scene, so he, too probably didn't know Themyscira was Earth. And, assuming they leave mother boxes on more than one planet at a time (which they probably do, considering the fact that Steppenwolf and Darkseid have been rampaging across the galaxy conquering hundreds of thousands of worlds), it's possible that if he found the box of Man before the box the Amazons, that he didn't know they were on the same planet. So, with all this set up, we can have the Ayer Cut take place during the time gap, have Steppenwolf find the box of Man, getdefeated by the Squad, have the box return to S.T.A.R. Labs and be given to Silas and then Cyborg, and then have ZSJL play out and have Steppenwolf take the boxes of both the Amazons and rhe Atlanteans, discover that Themyscira is on Earth and the Anti-life is also on Earth, and then go find the box of Man. I feel like I didn't explain this as well as I could have, but I hope you get the gist of the it. It might not work or make sense in the actual timeline of the films, but in my head, that's how it happens. But then again, I believe that the Steppenwolf thing was just the original idea for Suicide Squad and was later changed after Steppenwolf was included in Justice League. So it's possible that David Ayer's Suicide Squad doesn't even have Steppenwolf in it.

  • @shadowwarrior3444
    @shadowwarrior34442 жыл бұрын

    Essentially, ZSJL feels like a movie that was ripped straight out of a comic book in terms of its color, tone, and dynamic action scenes. Then again, Zack's color palette style has always added a sort of dreamlike state that I feel works well for CBMs, especially 300, Watchmen, and ZSJL. Now, I will argue that there are character moments for most of the characters, such as Black Widow silently admitting to Hawkeye that Loki's words got to her, Tony and Bruce's dialogue, and Fury's scenes with them. However, as a writer, Joss is better working with characters than working with action, and he's a TV director more than a movie one. He did have some creative fight sequences, but there was no way he'd beat Zack in terms of spectacle, dynamic combat, and sheer heaviness.

  • @illyph9963

    @illyph9963

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thats why i hate when people bitch about zacks slo mo, zack is a comic book nerd just like alot of the fans, and people dont realize the slo mo is the translation of comic book “splash pages”.....ive always said snyder dosent make “superhero” movies, he makes “comic book” movies, truley

  • @xavierterrelong9385

    @xavierterrelong9385

    2 жыл бұрын

    When isn't a superhero movie ripped off straight from a comic book

  • @jbbrolic

    @jbbrolic

    2 жыл бұрын

    As a massive fan of DC comics the Snyder trilogy is far less faithful to the comics, and in most cases wildly more disrespectful to the iconic characters than anything in the first couple MCU phases.

  • @nothingherezero7182

    @nothingherezero7182

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jbbrolic no unless you don't know the DC multiverse and you only read one batman storyline cause Superman isn't meant to be the Superman you know dceu is more like the origins stories and also sometimes managing can help a help like the batman Lois child or break like actually bringing batman second of the movies in the verse

  • @elijahrincon3586

    @elijahrincon3586

    2 жыл бұрын

    Infinity war Endgame Jack Snyder Avengers Age of ultron

  • @Nomad-1993
    @Nomad-19932 жыл бұрын

    Honestly, the difference between both movies is exactly why I love both. DC has always had the reputation of being larger than life while Marvel has always seemed to be more subtle, and closer to the dull everyday struggle for the heroes. I like that Marvel heroes feel more petty in comparison to the DC heroes. It makes sense the that the conflict in Avengers feels less intense than the one in ZSJL. If both were the exact same, than there is no creativity involved. It works and I'm happy we get to be spoiled by both of them

  • @ElvenRaptor

    @ElvenRaptor

    2 жыл бұрын

    This. And there's a lot more to unpack than "Loki weak; Steppenwolf strong". Like you said, the DCEU was about more now, bigger now, while the MCU took a longer road with an intervening Avengers film between Avengers 1 and Infinity War. They had been a more gradual upping of the stacks for them.

  • @Nomad-1993

    @Nomad-1993

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ElvenRaptor exactly! Well put my friend

  • @ElvenRaptor

    @ElvenRaptor

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Nomad-1993 Thank you!

  • @Strato_Casterrr9898

    @Strato_Casterrr9898

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ElvenRaptor That is the same in the comics. Its just a difference in power level. Its like comparing Naruto Shippuden to Dragon Ball Z. DC has always had a bigger power level from both heroes and villains. That's why Marvel failed in the 90s and had to sell their IP to big studios. They had always lacked to ridiculous grandeur of DC, whether it was bad or good.

  • @ElvenRaptor

    @ElvenRaptor

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Strato_Casterrr9898 Agreed.

  • @outcastmotion
    @outcastmotion2 жыл бұрын

    Despite my love for the first avengers film, Zack Snyder’s justice league will always be one of my favorites. The experience I had and the expertise of how well made this film is simply amazing. From the breathtaking visuals, stunning cinematography, top-notch special effects, incredible directing and phenomenal acting to the drama, serious tone, intelligent story and deeply compelling characterizations of all the main characters. Also delivering one of the best soundtracks I’ve ever heard and some badass action sequences. There’s also countless details which includes parallels, Easter eggs, references, symbology and imagery which I find absolutely fascinating. The cast was perfect and the rewatch value of the film is high. Ironically time flies by swiftly with this flick. This is why I believe Zack Snyder’s Justice League is a true work of art. 9.8/10.

  • @GenisysPrime

    @GenisysPrime

    2 жыл бұрын

    Zack Snyder's Justice League is one of the closest films to my heart. The visuals, the story, the emotional weight, the magnificent soundtrack and background score by tom holkenborg, the acting, the level of epicness it emits and the level of struggle the hardcore and never giving up dc fans and Zack Snyder went through makes it one of my most favourite movies till date. Even after one year of its release and watching it 8 times I still can't believe that a man like Zack Snyder exists in this very world who can make every single moment of a freakin' 4 hour long movie interesting, meaningful and intriguing. Even movies like the hobbit, the lord of the rings and the irishman which are at least half an hour shorter than zsjl become boring but this masterpiece just never disappoints no matter how many times you watch it. Movies like Avengers Infinity War, Avengers Endgame, Spider-Man No Way Home, The Dark Knight and Zack Snyder's Justice League are in a league of their own. This masterpiece is one of the best live-action superhero ensemble movie and one of the best superhero movies and hands down the best justice league movie (including animated and josstice league) till date.

  • @themaxster7798

    @themaxster7798

    2 жыл бұрын

    Too bad the same can't be said of BVS. It's unfocused, overly dark, inconsistent, has terrible dialogue, illogical character motivations and bad CGI.

  • @aleclessard7670

    @aleclessard7670

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm assuming you have not seen the ultimate edition of the film which is quite a bit better than the theatrical cut.

  • @themaxster7798

    @themaxster7798

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@aleclessard7670 Is it longer than the 3 hours? In all honesty, Snyder's style just doesn't appeal. I know some people like it and that's fine. It isn't for me.

  • @CC-dm3iy

    @CC-dm3iy

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@themaxster7798 wrong. It appeals, its just some people like u dont like it

  • @spliffnotes8359
    @spliffnotes83592 жыл бұрын

    Here's the thing, I liked avengers. But, just looking at these clips side by side it's almost embarrassing how much more visually beautiful justice league is... It's such a heavy and important feeling film. Like a living graphic novel

  • @zichengzhou6344

    @zichengzhou6344

    2 жыл бұрын

    The avengers was lit and shot like a tv show, even back in 2012 it bothered me a little.

  • @cadenschacht5660

    @cadenschacht5660

    2 жыл бұрын

    Justice league was ugly and uninspired

  • @ricksterdrummer2170

    @ricksterdrummer2170

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@zichengzhou6344 I think back then we were still used to superhero movies being shot on film with less to CGI.

  • @Wyfbeter

    @Wyfbeter

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sourruntz9595 big L

  • @sourruntz9595

    @sourruntz9595

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kp1x When u know it's true and got no argument😂

  • @aaronmiller6200
    @aaronmiller62002 жыл бұрын

    I will say though, in defense of the argument scene from The Avengers, it was heavily implied that the mind stone (which is theorized to have a will of its own) was influencing each of them by heightening their emotions in that moment. Hell, Banner wasn't even aware that he was holding it in his own hand.

  • @bobmclovinelectricboogaloo

    @bobmclovinelectricboogaloo

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's what it look like to me as well.

  • @rajarshisantra8203

    @rajarshisantra8203

    2 жыл бұрын

    Even if that was the idea, the dialogues and way they were delivered doesn't really sell that idea. Edit : What I tried to mean by that statement, that the "idea" of the mind stone manipulating didn't really meant a lot in the scope of the movie. The most damage it does that the Avengers quarreling for a bit and that's it. If you remove that whole "manipulating" thing, the story doesn't change any way.

  • @SuperSteph5

    @SuperSteph5

    2 жыл бұрын

    Then in the next Avengers movie they continue to fight amongst each other

  • @themeek8793

    @themeek8793

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@rajarshisantra8203 But the camera movement clearly tells us that Loki's scepter is doing this to them. Pay attention 😭

  • @Peer165

    @Peer165

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@rajarshisantra8203What the hell are you talking about? It was SO obvious the stone manipulated them that even my dear old grandmother picked up on it.

  • @gregoriocortezjr.2686
    @gregoriocortezjr.26862 жыл бұрын

    I don't have any word to express how accurate your take on both of these movies. We even have the same opinion on the villains, especially Loki's ungodly treatment

  • @indrajithk2561
    @indrajithk25612 жыл бұрын

    Man Of Steel was deep enough for me to love and understand Superman. Before that i always had a mixed feeling about this character. But MoS really showed me what made Clark Kent Superman and the struggles he had to face throughout his life while trying to find his identity and purpose in this world. He feels more human and relatable which was lacking in previous iterations. This movie gave me a new insight towards superheroes, especially Superman.

  • @dreademperor2094

    @dreademperor2094

    2 жыл бұрын

    I liked how Man of Steel was just the beginning of his journey to becoming the Superman we all know

  • @indrajithk2561

    @indrajithk2561

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dreademperor2094But some people were too dumb to understand that. They are living in the world of spoon-fed content. So they expected this one to be the same. Same thing with BvS(ultimate edition) as well. A criminally misunderstood and underrated movie. Its not flawless but it's easily an 8/10 movie which laid foundation to ZSJL.

  • @dreademperor2094

    @dreademperor2094

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@indrajithk2561 yeah, when I watched the ultimate edition I knew he was trying to tell a story but I didn't know what it was leading up to until I saw the Snyder Cut that's when I finally saw what he was building up to and now I want to see his vision completed with Justice League 2 and 3

  • @illyph9963

    @illyph9963

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dreademperor2094 yea imagine if idiot WB wud have just not messed with bvs n JL n let UE and ZSJL “be” the theatrical releases like zack wanted, they wud prob have theyre “mcu” money theyve been chasing few years ago, and a more respectable DCEU today, the problem was never zack, they just used him as scapegoat to cover up theyre own hack mistakes, the PROBLEM was wb overreacting n not giving a universe 1 movie in time to breath n gain legs🤦‍♂️

  • @naominaomison1908

    @naominaomison1908

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@indrajithk2561 The people who hated Man of Steel understood it far better than you ever could.

  • @divyapatel6063
    @divyapatel60632 жыл бұрын

    To be honest I had chills all over my body watching ZSJL. Cyborg was indeed the best and GOAT

  • @FrancistheBrave

    @FrancistheBrave

    2 жыл бұрын

    ❤️.

  • @onisuryaman408

    @onisuryaman408

    Жыл бұрын

    And Cyborg is truly the superhero of our era. He can plug himself into the Internet, manipulate things inside. He could make himself richer than Bruce Wayne if he wishes too, but he didn't. That's my hero.

  • @bobmclovinelectricboogaloo
    @bobmclovinelectricboogaloo2 жыл бұрын

    I agree Infinity war is the greatest avengers movie of all time. And I also agree with the majority of the points you made with avengers versus Zack Snyder's Justice League.

  • @GaParanormal

    @GaParanormal

    2 жыл бұрын

    Majority? Which could u even argue with?

  • @DeathbySkullfxxx

    @DeathbySkullfxxx

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@GaParanormal theres 5 movies leading up to Avengers and w DC you "only have to watch 2"... thats not an objective reason for am ensemblen movie to be better. And tho he says all these things as fact.. theyre still mostly just his opinion... just saying the recruiting in Justice League is better... or that Loki is lame... or something just IS when its actually based on his own singular subjective opinion. Nevermind more than one time he leans on a sentiment(for example) of "I genuinely thought"... thats literally basing it wholly in just what he thinks. Not fact. Just cuz he says it does not make it so. Even w some semblance of objectivity. Much of it is argumentative rhetoric... "I also found the characters...."... his opinion is not a fact. Nevermind that many examples many feel diametrically opposed to what he thinks. "Happened at an inappropriate time". He doesnt suggest why... he just says it... yet people love the movie(Avengers) so... inappropriate? Again... cuz he said so? Doesnt work that way.

  • @jeffcunningham0389

    @jeffcunningham0389

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@DeathbySkullfxxx you’re totally right. I like ZSJL but the avengers is a better movie. Better directing, writing, acting, editing, pacing and is just more fun, which is what a teamup movie should be.

  • @jesuspernia8031

    @jesuspernia8031

    2 жыл бұрын

    Infinity War shafted a lot of characters and still had those dumb jokes they like to throw in every 10 minutes. It’s a great film but I’d say even Endgame is better and IW isn’t as great as everyone says it is.

  • @jeffcunningham0389

    @jeffcunningham0389

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jesuspernia8031 name 2 jokes from IW that didn’t work

  • @fuison55
    @fuison552 жыл бұрын

    Both movies are great movies when you consider the time they release. Avengers feels very 2010s (released in 2012) and ZS justice league feels more fitting with what we currently have on TV and film.

  • @misterwizardman4309

    @misterwizardman4309

    2 жыл бұрын

    But it was originally a 2017 film which is crazy because nothing in 2017 was like that at all yet not until at least avengers infinity war

  • @indeed260

    @indeed260

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@misterwizardman4309 There absolutely things like that

  • @dannyyu7754

    @dannyyu7754

    7 ай бұрын

    You need to also consider they got 4years to collect feedback from the fans to redo some of the stories and learn from the funny cut​@@misterwizardman4309

  • @awesomecoolguy7541
    @awesomecoolguy75412 жыл бұрын

    I do really like the Avengers, but Zack Snyder's Justice League is just a much better movie and I can't decide whether it or Aquaman is better.

  • @maxhall622

    @maxhall622

    2 жыл бұрын

    aquaman is shit 😬

  • @coltkillergaming5685

    @coltkillergaming5685

    2 жыл бұрын

    I prefer aquaman cuz oceanmaster and manta I don’t like heard but she didn’t do too bad a job and the effects is so awesome so is the action

  • @Thenumber1yoshi

    @Thenumber1yoshi

    2 жыл бұрын

    Eh, both pale in comparison to the Subspace Emissary from Super Smash Bros. Brawl!

  • @TroisB

    @TroisB

    2 жыл бұрын

    Huh, let me help you: ZSJL by far! 😅 I don't even understand how you can love both at the same time with Aquaman looking as much as a bad Marvel rip-off ; I'll never understand how people can accept this giant cartoonesque story happening in the same universe as MoS and Bv2! But eh, everyone has the right to enjoy what he wants I guess... :)

  • @coltkillergaming5685

    @coltkillergaming5685

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TroisB not all movies have to have super serious stories

  • @juansepotter
    @juansepotter2 жыл бұрын

    ZSJL is easy one of the best CMB movies of all time The color, the story, the soundtrack, everything is amazing

  • @joelolukaiyeja6095

    @joelolukaiyeja6095

    Жыл бұрын

    Same

  • @sergiodesousa8669

    @sergiodesousa8669

    Жыл бұрын

    9899⁹999 😊7😊

  • @majinbusn

    @majinbusn

    Жыл бұрын

    The color: literally everything black or grey

  • @The_FallenKnight
    @The_FallenKnight2 жыл бұрын

    Honestly i like Both Movies. They are awesome

  • @BESTMOAD

    @BESTMOAD

    2 жыл бұрын

    Justice league is better I don't have to use I like both excuse I like both but justice league us better

  • @Kusanagikaiser999
    @Kusanagikaiser9992 жыл бұрын

    As someone who have never had an issue with Avengers, still is one of my favorite comicbook movies, and yeah maybe you are a little harsh.......but I can see your points here as valid, specially comparing this film with Zack Snyder's JUSTICE LEAGUE, if was a fight between Joss Whedon JL vs Avengers yeah I would go with Avengers, but Zack Snyder version is sooo much superior in all ways, I actually think stand up even vs films like Infinity War (not saying is better, just that in a vs fight, both sides will get points), JL Snyder cut is an amazing beautiful film, and the developed of the characters, the villain, the music, the action the cinematography is just on a whole different level compared with Avengers, so as an AVENGERS 1 FAN, I can say, JL is the better movie, I totally agree.

  • @One-Time-Review

    @One-Time-Review

    2 жыл бұрын

    I love both DC & Marvel movies hopefully Warner bros can fix what they have done with DC

  • @garfieldlasagna6918

    @garfieldlasagna6918

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@One-Time-Review only if they listen to the fans and restore the snyderverse starting with the ayer cut of suicide squad

  • @rajarshisantra8203

    @rajarshisantra8203

    Жыл бұрын

    I would put freaking Catwoman over Josstice League. Heck, Morbius and Fantastic Four (the 2015 one) also have their chance to go over Josstice League for me

  • @davidsherfield9455
    @davidsherfield94552 жыл бұрын

    I’m glad you finally made another Vs video of ZSJL! Thank you Eric! I love your superhero videos the most! Especially The Batman, ZSJL, and Spider-Man. Really, you are very appreciated!

  • @axelontiveros7988

    @axelontiveros7988

    2 жыл бұрын

    0P

  • @nqz1594
    @nqz15942 жыл бұрын

    As an MCU fan i've been watched Zack Snyder's justice league and i gonna say ZSJL is WAY far better than The Avenger 2012 even a snyder cut could beat the whole avenger 2012 movie (imo)

  • @West-Telecom

    @West-Telecom

    2 жыл бұрын

    In your dreams.Ok ???

  • @themaxster7798

    @themaxster7798

    2 жыл бұрын

    I don't believe that ZSJL is better than the Russo's Avengers: IW. That movie is a template for how to make a massive team-up comicbook movie.

  • @rohandsouza1871

    @rohandsouza1871

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@themaxster7798 i think he meant the first avengers movie...i think its not as good as the 3rd and 4th one

  • @jesuspernia8031

    @jesuspernia8031

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@themaxster7798 I strongly disagree. I’ll take ZSJL any day over IW and pretty much every Avengers film combined. IW still has that crap marvel humor and shafted characters that deserved spotlight like Vision. It’s nowhere near as good as a lot of people are saying.

  • @themaxster7798

    @themaxster7798

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jesuspernia8031 And I strongly disagree with your disagreement. To each their own.

  • @sharkwar4284
    @sharkwar42842 жыл бұрын

    18:25 honestly, I think Transformers: Dark of the Moon is very underrated and the climactic action scene is probably in my top five action scenes, especially when Michael Bay got people in wing suits to actually fly over a city which Micheal Bay then digitally changed to make the city more destroyed and of course, add more explosions

  • @nqz1594

    @nqz1594

    2 жыл бұрын

    Tbh TF:D O T M story telling is kinda... not that good the only thing that i saw hold it was the vfx and CGI in the battle imo

  • @jetix7888

    @jetix7888

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nah the Transformers movies outside of Bumblebee are generally shit

  • @sharkwar4284

    @sharkwar4284

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jetix7888 in my opinion, the 1st one is good, the second one is boring, the 3rd one is underrated to me, and the last 2 are god awful

  • @comicbooknerd3570

    @comicbooknerd3570

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jetix7888 That’s your own personal opinion it ain’t a fact, I loved the first trilogy especially DOTM probably one of my fav transformers films especially the 3rd act climax way better than bumblebee IMO even tho that’s high up there on my list as well.

  • @comicbooknerd3570

    @comicbooknerd3570

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@nqz1594 DOTM has the best story in the entire 5 movies. I think it’s better than 1 IMO. Sentinel Prime, is probably the best antagonist because he actually a threat and has a clear motivation that he’s just homesick and wants his species to live on their planet again, better than the downgraded megatron lol

  • @ImaginaryNate
    @ImaginaryNate Жыл бұрын

    6:53 This is the BIGGEST thing that average viewers overlook, and it really bugs me. The whole arc of Batman was to show he was going bad in BvS, but turned good at the end and remained good in this movie. He was always meant to not be that killer we saw

  • @supergeek7134
    @supergeek71342 жыл бұрын

    The thing with The Avengers is that when it came out is was a pretty big deal and it seemed like a big deal but when I go back and watch it now it doesn't feel like it mainly cuz of movies like IW,ZSJL,ENDGAME etc the movie itself doesn't feel like it the shots feel like a tv show not every shot but many of the shots are generic atleast to me. The movie came out when we never had a big superhero team up on big screen so it felt great but rewatching it now it feels decent, not really great and not really bad like it just served it's purpose for more greater films.

  • @Madbandit77

    @Madbandit77

    2 жыл бұрын

    What the heck is Watchmen then, also directed by Snyder? There's also X-Men (2000).

  • @ElvenRaptor

    @ElvenRaptor

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Madbandit77 No, those are team movies. Not team up movies. There is a difference.

  • @supergeek7134

    @supergeek7134

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Madbandit77 there's clear difference between different superheroes coming together and an already formed team lead by a wise man xd like doom patrol,teen titans,x-men and JSA

  • @Madbandit77

    @Madbandit77

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@supergeek7134 Yes, but they're still superhero teams, fighting for the greater good.

  • @supergeek7134

    @supergeek7134

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Madbandit77 yeah but they were introduced as team they aren't the same as justice league or the avengers

  • @justsomeguywholovesberserk6375
    @justsomeguywholovesberserk63752 жыл бұрын

    Unironically The Avengers is Joss Wheadons best work and I fricking hate him as a person and Snyder Cut is better by Far no contest

  • @ethanrobert342

    @ethanrobert342

    2 жыл бұрын

    Why exactly is he a terrible person?

  • @Layschips5

    @Layschips5

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ethanrobert342 when u think about it, he ruined a masterpiece

  • @justsomeguywholovesberserk6375

    @justsomeguywholovesberserk6375

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ethanrobert342 Justice League star Ray Fisher came forward with accusations against the director saying he created a toxic work environment on set calling Whedon's treatment of the cast and crew “gross, abusive, unprofessional.Buffy and Angel actress Charisma Carpenter followed, detailing her experience enduring mental and emotional abuse from Whedon.Since then, other actors, writers, and crew members, including Gal Gadot and Michelle Trachtenberg, have opened up about what it was like working with the director.

  • @Daeduluus

    @Daeduluus

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Layschips5 lmao come on Justice league is no masterpiece haha

  • @definitelynotabot1743

    @definitelynotabot1743

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Ben Solo that's subjective.

  • @maxfordgaming9278
    @maxfordgaming92782 жыл бұрын

    I 100% agree Zack Snyder justice league is the better movie.

  • @themaxster7798

    @themaxster7798

    2 жыл бұрын

    Possibly but that depends on what metrics you're using to judge. Those two movies are so different in vision and the way they make people feel. Tonal quality is just as big an issue in movies now, along with story telling. I got what Snyder was trying to do with JL but BVS set a bad template that I believe poisoned the viewing public's perception of his take on DC. Again, my opinion.

  • @maxfordgaming9278

    @maxfordgaming9278

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@themaxster7798 true.

  • @florentinovillegas9932

    @florentinovillegas9932

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@themaxster7798 BvS was very misunderstood, and I think the Ultimate Edition really fixes a lot of the problems that the theatrical release one had because that extra time allows you to understand what's going on much better. And you get the characters motivations better as well. It's personally one of my favorite superhero movies, but that's just my opinion :)

  • @RickVencesC
    @RickVencesC2 жыл бұрын

    The truth is that Zack Snyder's Justice League has a level of epicity much higher than that of the first Avengers, so much so that the moment in which the Flash makes use of the speed force reaches the same level of epicity as the snap of Tony Stark in End Game.

  • @richyambros2769

    @richyambros2769

    2 жыл бұрын

    I don’t agree the iron man snap wasn’t exciting at all. I think the entrance were every comes is the most exciting in endgame

  • @ninjanibba4259

    @ninjanibba4259

    2 жыл бұрын

    You know April Fools was LAST week right?

  • @marvelstudios3565

    @marvelstudios3565

    2 жыл бұрын

    Victor Stone (Cyborg) cries because his daddy wouldn't watch his game. 😂 His mother dies in a car accident because she's trying to comfort his bitch ass instead of watching the road. 😂 Victor goes on to blame his father for what happened.😂😂😂🤣🤣

  • @richyambros2769

    @richyambros2769

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@marvelstudios3565 why are you mad? Damn you cinematic marvel fans are so toxic. Can’t have a debate with any of you because you just get your info from your movies and you guys are stubborn and full of rage.

  • @jeffcunningham0389

    @jeffcunningham0389

    2 жыл бұрын

    The shot of the avengers finally alll assembled is more iconic than anything in ZSJL and I actually like that movie but come on. Lets not rewrite history now. Also that one shot, single take that should all the avengers working together is cooler than anything in that movie as well.

  • @deepchocolate2394
    @deepchocolate23942 жыл бұрын

    That transition into talking about the sponsor was smooth as hell

  • @uglynerd8764
    @uglynerd87642 жыл бұрын

    ZSJL VS Infinity war doesn't make sense because Infinity war has far more building up to it. Isn't something like 20 movies that's like 40 to 50 hours? Hopefully with the discovery merger we get part 2 and 3.

  • @adamgrunther1367
    @adamgrunther13672 жыл бұрын

    RIP William Hurt (the actor for General Ross).

  • @EricCarter12

    @EricCarter12

    2 жыл бұрын

    Did he pass away???? I didn't even know. RIP indeed.

  • @adamgrunther1367
    @adamgrunther13672 жыл бұрын

    The DCEU has one of the saddest legacies ever as a franchise. There are so many terrific films like Aquaman, Shazam, The Suicide Squad and the first Wonder Woman. And yet because of their poor creative choices during their first five years whether it’s the quality of Man of Steel and Batman v Superman or them meddling in movies like Justice League, most people are going to see this franchise as a failure and the amount of bad press caused by actors like Ezra Miller and Amber Heard have only made DC’s reputation infinitely worse.

  • @rajarshisantra8203

    @rajarshisantra8203

    2 жыл бұрын

    DC having a problematic reputation is something to be excepted because unlike marvel they are not obsessed with capitalizing the family friendly and formulaic "happy to go lucky" content(WB are, but not the creative side of the DC). The creative choices of MoS and BvS are really not that damaging once they are put in the context of the entire franchise and they are very wrongly criticized for reasons based on either bias or simple misunderstanding.

  • @tombailey837
    @tombailey8372 жыл бұрын

    Iron Man & Cap recruiting the Avengers makes a lot more sence when you think about it. Great point Eric.

  • @r_brucewayne3888

    @r_brucewayne3888

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mrbluesky4838 classic die hard marvel fan

  • @kringerman396

    @kringerman396

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@r_brucewayne3888 yup

  • @r_brucewayne3888

    @r_brucewayne3888

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@user-utshi9ha thats now what he was saying he was saying that it would have been cool if the diractors found a way to amke tony and cap recruit the avengers

  • @ElvenRaptor

    @ElvenRaptor

    2 жыл бұрын

    No, it doesn't, because Tony had a "go it alone" attitude at the time and Cap was still getting used to living in the 20th Century, and had zero connections.

  • @yeetcity2704

    @yeetcity2704

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ElvenRaptor Honestly it would have been more entertaining

  • @infiniteapex8762
    @infiniteapex87622 жыл бұрын

    I think zack snyder justice league wins, it's just better in cinamatogerphy, storytelling, but the avengers cool to, I watched it when I was a kid, still has a soft spot for it, but I still like the snyder cut more, it just has better stakes, and a better villain, hes terrifying

  • @devyncrant797

    @devyncrant797

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same I watched The first Avengers when I was a kid but I didn’t find it memorable It’s is obviously slow and I’m actually not a big fan of the avengers that much and I’m also not a big Iron man, Thor, and black widow, especially Iron man in my opinion and yes I know tony stark has a good sense of humour but I don’t like that he shows off and I think he’s a bit too good but still I’m not a big fan of Iron man, but there’s 3 or 4 heroes that I liked and that is Captain America, Hawkeye, nick fury and the hulk and that’s it so yea

  • @adityadutta2391

    @adityadutta2391

    2 жыл бұрын

    Better stakes? Wtf u talkin about

  • @infiniteapex8762

    @infiniteapex8762

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@adityadutta2391 I'm saying the stakes were handled better

  • @ericericson5633

    @ericericson5633

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@infiniteapex8762 Justice League literally had no stakes. The Russian family in the Whedon cut is the closest that movie gets to having anything worth caring about.

  • @infiniteapex8762

    @infiniteapex8762

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ericericson5633 so yiur saying the world literally being destroyed, isnt a stake? Or if the mother box touch the water, the whole world gonna parish isnt a stake, then I dont know what is, you can keep your whedon cut, and I keep the snyder cut.

  • @spider-man500
    @spider-man5002 жыл бұрын

    I gotta say, as much as I love Avengers, and as much as Marvel guy I am, I definitely think that Zack Snyder's Justice League is better. I personally prefer how and why the Justice League get together than how the Avengers get together. Each member is going through their own pain and trauma, so when they get together, truly together, you feel glad for not only the world being saved, but you feel happy for the Justice League Members themselves for getting through their problems. It felt like an overall more emotional, serious and purposeful story. I'm gonna say it, ZSJL is one of my favourite CB movies of a time, and definitely my personal top 3 favourite DC movies overall. #RestoreTheSnyderVerse

  • @GenisysPrime

    @GenisysPrime

    2 жыл бұрын

    thanks spider-man. #restorethesnyderverse and #maketasm3

  • @dradra2day

    @dradra2day

    2 жыл бұрын

    You're a good man

  • @aakashsaini2184

    @aakashsaini2184

    2 жыл бұрын

    @I'm a clown Yes but ZSJL was also supposed to be a setup for future DCEU movies. Too bad WB cancelled Batfleck, Ryan Choi's Atom and changed the entire script of The Flash.

  • @spider-man500

    @spider-man500

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@aakashsaini2184 true, but Justice League was telling its own story more so than Avengers.

  • @theangryavengersendgameps4836
    @theangryavengersendgameps48362 жыл бұрын

    I like The Snyder cut better than The first avengers Lol People Got made at Me.

  • @atogon_art
    @atogon_art2 жыл бұрын

    When you compare this to your previous Justice League vs Avengers video, it only shows just how much you've come and improved so much!

  • @jadenwalker2052
    @jadenwalker20522 жыл бұрын

    I feel like Zack also knows the character's powers and abilities better, especially with Flash's speed and the water manipulation bit

  • @nicholasmartins3030
    @nicholasmartins30302 жыл бұрын

    Don’t forget Wonder Woman before watching justice league

  • @jacindaellison3363

    @jacindaellison3363

    2 жыл бұрын

    Was thinking the same thing.

  • @spider-man500
    @spider-man5002 жыл бұрын

    18:24 TF Dark of the Moon has one of the best final action set pieces of all time. The whole final hour of the film is just a giant action scene made up of many many different/unique action scenes intergrated into the 1 hour battle. Hate Bay all you want, but his action/Choreography and Special Effects were fucking amazing in the TF movies, DOTM especially.

  • @abstraction6212

    @abstraction6212

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well Bay Hated his transformers movies and Parasite kept on pestering him to make more. He wanted to stop after dark of the moon

  • @naumaanulhaq586

    @naumaanulhaq586

    2 жыл бұрын

    Damn that scene with gaint worm decepticon destroying the building and our heroes in it. That was pure awesomeness.

  • @DerezzedMan

    @DerezzedMan

    2 жыл бұрын

    I always thought the final battle of TF3 was superior to the one in Avengers.

  • @SmartypantsTutoring
    @SmartypantsTutoring2 жыл бұрын

    There is a simplicity to the first Avengers that I find charming over the one Avengers movies that feel less self contained. I feel you could watch first Avengers without any of the other movies prior and still get close to the same enjoyment out of it. I know it’s popular now to hate Whedon and while The Avengers is not perfect(as you said it kind of looks like an expensive tv show), it still set the bar for shared universes going forward for better or worse. It was a first and that novelty was a big deal. That’s probably why Age of Ultron was somewhat underwhelming for some people. The only way Marvel could recapture that magic was to raise the stakes and the scope with Infinity War and Endgame. In any case, I think it’s a really good film with a simple setup, fun action and engaging characters and banter. It’s a shame Marvel afterwards went over board with the Whedonification of everything and I say as someone who likes Whedon overall. However even though I am not the biggest fan of Snyder’s Man of Steel or BVS, I loved his Justice League to my surprise..It felt like a giant comic book issue. An epic comic book rock opera. It has all the excesses that come with Snyder(slow motion, music video needle drops, self indulgent, self important), but here I kind of loved it. Just the sheer audacity of this 4 hour movie. The story is refreshingly simple after how convoluted BVS was and the movie is able to breathe allowing for actual character development which is usually not Snyder’s strong suit. This allows the big moments(emotional and visual) to land more. While I wish the film had more color, it is beautifully and stylistically shot. Junkie XL’s score is sweeping. The humor surprisingly lands and yet it’s never overbearing. It’s reasonably well paced despite it’s runtime and once again it gives it that epic feel. I never would have guessed Snyder was actually capable of making a heroic film, but I guess he wasn’t lying implying BVS was the dawn of justice. Excluding the Joker unnecessary epilogue, the ending montage hit me hard and this is the Justice League film I was hoping for. I always thought Whedon was the better storyteller and Snyder the better filmmaker, but this might have changed my mind.

  • @ericericson5633

    @ericericson5633

    2 жыл бұрын

    Zack Snyder's Justice League is a textbook example of terrible storytelling. Two hours into the movie and they're still introducing new things. No normal person is ever going to sit through that. The first act of the movie is over two hours. Not releasing this trainwreck in cinemas is the smartest thing WB has ever done.

  • @TotallyActing

    @TotallyActing

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ericericson5633 well I mean, millions of completely normal people sat through the 4 hours of the masterpiece. And it’s a slower pace bc it’s a 4 hour movie which means things take their time. It’s ok kiddo, you can go watch an hour of cocomelon if you’d like… no one cares for your opinion

  • @nothingherezero7182

    @nothingherezero7182

    2 жыл бұрын

    biggest thing about BVS it basically what do world is now right like cancelling and many more

  • @andreimcallister1365

    @andreimcallister1365

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ericericson5633 Bruh literally every dc fan has watched it and loved it so shut up

  • @riteousrighthand6144

    @riteousrighthand6144

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ericericson5633 It was always meant to be a 2 part film though. Then Warner came in and said, no Zack, make it one movie. And he did. Then they said, no Zack, make it 2 hours long.

  • @Ope334
    @Ope3342 жыл бұрын

    My extra category: superhero line up scenes. When I saw The Avengers for the first time I thought there wouldn't be a superhero line up as good as the Avengers but Zack Snyder's Justice League not only has a better superhero line up but has the best superhero line up. So the winner with the far, far superior superhero line up is Zack Snyder's Justice Leauge.

  • @West-Telecom

    @West-Telecom

    2 жыл бұрын

    And without any “team” or chemistry

  • @GenisysPrime

    @GenisysPrime

    2 жыл бұрын

    bro I can see your love for zsjl in your profile pic of unfeatured john stewart's green lantern from zsjl. I love that movie too

  • @Ope334

    @Ope334

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@GenisysPrime I didn't have that profile picture when I made this comment.

  • @GenisysPrime

    @GenisysPrime

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Ope334 well the fact is that i love it.

  • @diegoledezma4045

    @diegoledezma4045

    2 жыл бұрын

    It can’t be the best since they don’t even have a good version of Batman. That’s one third of the big 3 essentially missing. I really liked Snyder cut but I’d rather watch Avengers any day of the week. Pacing is much better in Avengers although the visuals suck compared to Snyder cut.

  • @kevinodoghair
    @kevinodoghair2 жыл бұрын

    ZSJL > Avengers

  • @marvelstudios3565

    @marvelstudios3565

    2 жыл бұрын

    Victor Stone (Cyborg) cries because his daddy wouldn't watch his game. 😂 His mother dies in a car accident because she's trying to comfort his bitch ass instead of watching the road. 😂 Victor goes on to blame his father for what happened.😂😂😂🤣🤣

  • @booomheadshotadi8333

    @booomheadshotadi8333

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes

  • @bladewolflq-84i86
    @bladewolflq-84i862 жыл бұрын

    The Avengers didnt age well, it was already an ugly as fuck looking movie even back in 2012 compared to other big blockbusters like The Dark Knight Rises and Prometheus, the thing looked like a TV movie at times carried by the novelty of watching all these characters togheter for the first time. It not just a 2012 thing, most Marvel movies are ugly as fuck, its pretty telling when your 2021 Spider Man movie looks worse compared to movie made in 2004 about the same character, the only ones with any sort of good visuals are James Gunn Guardians movies.

  • @jesuspernia8031
    @jesuspernia80312 жыл бұрын

    I’m gonna have to say Justice League is FAR BETTER and it’s not even close. The Avengers isn’t a bad film. Not at all, but it’s only good for a couple of laughs and an epic battle. And I don’t care what the common opinion is on this, I’ll watch Man of Steel and Batman v Superman any day over most of the 5 movies that lead up to The Avengers (only one that’s great is Iron Man which is way better than The Avengers movie itself). Avengers can be a great film, but man Justice League just gave us an amazingly put together film. Hell I’ll watch Justice League over any of the Avengers films (yes even over IW and Endgame).

  • @bemasaberwyn55
    @bemasaberwyn552 жыл бұрын

    There's only 1 thing that I'd argue, and it's primarily because I'm a bit of a completionist. I'd argue that the extended edition of SS and the solo WW film should be viewed in addition to MOS and BvS(Ultimate Edition). I suggest this for 1 explaining Diana's backstory as well as a concept that is utilized when Steppenwolf is killed(only a god can kill another God, so Diana could decapitate Steppenwolf). 2 introducing Harley(who Knightmare Bruce refrences) and the Joker(who they show in that Knightmare).

  • @vietnameeseguy
    @vietnameeseguy2 жыл бұрын

    Snyder’s JL would’ve been a huge hit had it been released in theatres. The scale of the movie felt huge and it would’ve surprisingly blown people away I think. Like the Amazon fight scene is crazy and the opening credits was such a cool way to open a movie and it literally picks up right after BvS. Steppenwolf would’ve surprised a lot of people too on how powerful and brutal he was. I mean the black suit and flash reversing time all would’ve made people jump and cheer in a packed theater. Though besides these movies being their first outing as a team, I think IW would’ve been a better comparison bc the stories are pretty much the same.

  • @kianbos3691
    @kianbos36912 жыл бұрын

    THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING TRANSFORMERS 3!!! that had always bugged me and it always felt like they ripped off that third act, also do you ever plan to do a transformers vs battle?

  • @NeKiiiiaaa
    @NeKiiiiaaa2 жыл бұрын

    Love the review fr!👍🏻👍🏻

  • @randallrona9618
    @randallrona96182 жыл бұрын

    The Avengers(2012): Superhero movie with light hearted tone, jokes, banter, great action and good cinematography but less character development & arcs, lack of storytelling and unfair treatment of main characters(Only Loki got better character development because of Tom Hiddleston's performance). Zack Snyder's Justice League: Superhero movie with flawed yet deep understanding, dark & serious tone, great cinematography and better storytelling but had show deeper character development & arcs of each main characters, Steppenwolf and Darkseid were both scary and more intimidating villains & a redemption not just heroes but also Zack Snyder himself(Your daughter will so proud of you, Mr. Snyder).

  • @TheLastPrime38
    @TheLastPrime382 жыл бұрын

    I love both with my whole soul. They both did what I thought was impossible in my lifetime.

  • @BasicRecap
    @BasicRecap2 жыл бұрын

    I love how you connected your sponsor and your content.

  • @Nu-En-Jin77
    @Nu-En-Jin772 жыл бұрын

    All I can say is Joss Whedon. Take him out of the filming/directing process, and your movie is already that much better. Great video! I enjoy both movies, but ZSJL is on another level. How messed up that WB wanted to copy what Whedon was doing with Avengers and Zack Snyder's cut was looked at as the inferior product? #RestoreTheSnyderVerse

  • @jeffcunningham0389

    @jeffcunningham0389

    2 жыл бұрын

    If you take Whedon away from The Avengers is it better aswell?

  • @aakashsaini2184

    @aakashsaini2184

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jeffcunningham0389 Actually yes. The Avengers looked like a TV movie. While Ultron was decently shot, it failed storywise. Both Whedon's Avengers were mediocre and thank god for the Russos!

  • @jeffcunningham0389

    @jeffcunningham0389

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@aakashsaini2184 lol the first avengers is widely regarded as one of the greatest comic book movies of all time. Even Quentin Tarantino loves it as his favorite of the mcu. But you know more than him

  • @footsanti5353
    @footsanti53532 жыл бұрын

    Loved both but ZACK'S movie was better in every aspect, especially visually.... You hear that Whedon?

  • @justsomeguywholovesberserk6375

    @justsomeguywholovesberserk6375

    2 жыл бұрын

    Zack is a master of beautiful shots and cinematography 300 and watchmen being peak Zack Snyder awesomeness, While Joss has some bland looking movies as much as I liked the Avengers the movie does look oversaturated

  • @ericericson5633

    @ericericson5633

    2 жыл бұрын

    Most adults wouldn't watch Zack Snyder films because the action has no point. The Avengers focused getting civilians to safety and Zack Snyder's Justice League focused on punching the CGI. Only the very immature liked Zack Snyder's Justice League.

  • @theju1603

    @theju1603

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ericericson5633 did u even watch this video? Or the movie?

  • @goldendragon0145

    @goldendragon0145

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@theju1603 He’s just a biased MCU cry baby who gets triggered whenever someone says they like Snyder Cut or anything DC related and also prefers Joss Whedon over the Russo brothers, Christopher Nolan and Matt reeves who he thinks are shit.

  • @Retr008

    @Retr008

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@goldendragon0145 welp you explained it well

  • @baconkattid1944
    @baconkattid19442 жыл бұрын

    I like both movies, it will be an interesting comparison though

  • @rubeng370
    @rubeng3702 жыл бұрын

    My story of the 1st Avengers movie, When I was 9 years old I saw Ironman 1 in the theater and loved it, saw Incredible Hulk on DVD and liked it. Then I skipped out on the rest of the movies, not knowing they were connected, and found it strange that Rob Downey was at the end of Hulk and was confused why when my dad pointed it out. I did not watch Avengers in the theater when I was 13, because I only liked and knew Ironman and Hulk. No Spiderman, and no idea who the villains were. So rather than experiencing this epic movie with confusion, I missed out on it. When I finally watched it on DVD, I loved it

  • @instictivemeh7971
    @instictivemeh79712 жыл бұрын

    Amazing video mate

  • @EricCarter12

    @EricCarter12

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much buddy! :) Please give the video a thumbs up if you haven't as it really helps in getting it recommended on KZread's algorithm.

  • @idazzlinggauss
    @idazzlinggauss2 жыл бұрын

    Zack Snyder's Justice League (2021 >

  • @connorapurcell
    @connorapurcell2 жыл бұрын

    "It did feel a little contrived for the heroes to start turning on each other." "To turn on each other felt very out of place for them." ....uh, no shit. Did you seriously never notice why this is? It's because Loki's scepter held the Mind Stone. Because of their proximity, the stone was influencing their minds and causing them to turn on each other. There's even a shot focused on the scepter with the Avengers arguing in the background, to visually show that the scepter was turning them against each other... How could you have missed this???

  • @bolehew3057

    @bolehew3057

    Жыл бұрын

    Because the guy who did this video lacks any objectivity whatsoever. He’s obviously a huge DC fan. The man can’t recognize that what the MCU has done is the greatest serial filmmaking ever been performed.

  • @RenzoBC

    @RenzoBC

    Жыл бұрын

    Awe shut your crybaby marvel fanboy ass up! You idiots act like people can't prefer dc movies to marvel movies like the entire world is supposed to just pick marvel movies automatically. Gtfoh! I can't believe the fucking arrogance of you marvel fans bitching because some people like ZSJL over the avengers and can actually criticize marvel without always kissing their ass! The avengers is a weaker movie in every damn way, especially with their weak ass villains like Loki, who was always a joke in that movie!

  • @connorapurcell

    @connorapurcell

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RenzoBC lol you seem to have responded to the wrong comment because none of your accusations are even slightly valid. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and tastes, and I never suggested otherwise. You, on the other hand, expose yourself as a hypocrite by immediately displaying the behavior you accuse others of engaging in. 🙄

  • @AbanRoby
    @AbanRoby2 жыл бұрын

    The transition to your sponser's content was smooth af

  • @jtjdrums
    @jtjdrums2 жыл бұрын

    I gave my copy of Avengers to my kids when I tried to rewatch it a third time, and just couldn't concentrate... no longer interested in that style of film making, I guess? However, I've rewatched ZSJL half a dozen times, and it just improves every time. Same with Infinity War... Watching the film a second time on disc was almost painful, but it was a fairly good laugh at the cinema. MCU films are pretty good fun first time round, but imho they're not robust enough for repeated viewings. One of my requirements from a great film is its longevity in rewatching it many times over.

  • @dharambasi1928

    @dharambasi1928

    2 жыл бұрын

    Totally agree, I struggle to rewatch an MCU movie whereas I could rewatch DC media many times. Whatever era it may be, DC films always have a sense of rewatch ability.

  • @isitpossible3058

    @isitpossible3058

    2 жыл бұрын

    Truth it is very difficult to rewatch infinity war ... infinity war is great movie but mcu movies are only one time watch for me except iron man1,3 🤩...i love iron man 1,3

  • @jsmlxjs5268
    @jsmlxjs52682 жыл бұрын

    I have been legit waiting for this. Eric has provided. Absolute legend

  • @bullahboi3064
    @bullahboi30642 жыл бұрын

    I feel like it is unfair to use the original Avengers because it was the first of it's kind

  • @dosomestuff1949

    @dosomestuff1949

    2 жыл бұрын

    So was zsjl. It’s the first team up movie of their respective universes so it is fair. They also have the same generallll plot so yea…

  • @theshredder103

    @theshredder103

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dosomestuff1949 he means the avengers movie was the first ever big team up movie from preestablished characters, justice league is made after many team up movies have already been made so it has more to take notes from.

  • @dosomestuff1949

    @dosomestuff1949

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@theshredder103 doesn’t matter, the avengers had countless comics to take notes from

  • @androognoix1685

    @androognoix1685

    2 жыл бұрын

    Infinity war was the first of it's kind but yet it's better than zsjl. Also Snyder saw what people didn't like about his parts of justice league

  • @theshredder103

    @theshredder103

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dosomestuff1949 yes, but it was the firet time it has been done on the big screen, comics cannot be replicated in live action 1:1

  • @JFFilmsYT
    @JFFilmsYT2 жыл бұрын

    Bro I swear you are the first person to make a sponsor enjoyable

  • @EricCarter12

    @EricCarter12

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks buddy! That really means a lot!

  • @Tonkybro3
    @Tonkybro32 жыл бұрын

    Im sharing this... Thanks for making this video 🙏

  • @levlarl1463
    @levlarl14632 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video, Eric. Maybe it's just me, but I feel like you don't release as many videos as before, maybe because you're busy, but again, that's probably just me.

  • @EricCarter12

    @EricCarter12

    2 жыл бұрын

    Your very welcome buddy. I do upload more often, it's just that I upload other videos in-between and not just versus videos. They take a long time to make so I have been trying to give you guys some other videos in-between. There's always additional content that I upload on Patreon too so I'm always there if you want additional content. ;)

  • @levlarl1463

    @levlarl1463

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@EricCarter12 Ok. Thank you

  • @EricCarter12

    @EricCarter12

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@levlarl1463 And yes I AM a big fan of Total Drama! 😉

  • @levlarl1463

    @levlarl1463

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@EricCarter12 Hello again, Eric. I have some new Vs. video ideas: Who Framed Roger Rabbit vs The Thief and the Cobbler Lord of the Rings (1978) vs Lord of the Rings (1 and 2) Hellboy vs Hellboy 2 vs Hellboy remake Spawn (1997) vs either Hellboy (2004) or Venom Superman (1978) vs Man of Steel Planet of the Apes trilogy Batman (1989) vs Batman Begins vs The Batman (2021) I'll put more if I find any.

  • @Dookieman1975
    @Dookieman19752 жыл бұрын

    I think they’re both of equal quality. Neither really makes sense but both are awesome and very different with their own identities

  • @BESTMOAD

    @BESTMOAD

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not at all

  • @BESTMOAD

    @BESTMOAD

    2 жыл бұрын

    Zsjl is faaaar better

  • @Dookieman1975

    @Dookieman1975

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@BESTMOAD ok. But I think they’re both really good. One thing JL has over avengers is that Steppenwolf wins (reminds me of when thanos won) then flash used speed hacks to turn back time (like endgame). And you’re def just saying that because he said ZSJL is better

  • @lloyd777

    @lloyd777

    Жыл бұрын

    Nope

  • @shaikhchilliee
    @shaikhchilliee2 жыл бұрын

    Finally brother🔥 I had asked you long back man!!!

  • @EricCarter12

    @EricCarter12

    2 жыл бұрын

    😎

  • @shaikhchilliee

    @shaikhchilliee

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@EricCarter12 but I don't know if this was the right time man, of you had released back then Zack Snyder was trending so it would have gotten you way more views compared to what you'll get by uploading it now..

  • @samii8851
    @samii88512 жыл бұрын

    Let’s go i was watting for this

  • @IsraelNowIsraelForever
    @IsraelNowIsraelForever2 жыл бұрын

    @Eric Carter, Mario Puzo's The Godfather will celebrate its fiftieth anniversary next week. So, I thought you could do Mario Puzo's The Godfather VS Scarface (1932, 1983) video.

  • @RGBindigo
    @RGBindigo2 жыл бұрын

    Definitely Zack Snyder’s Justice League

  • @muhibmehboob2560
    @muhibmehboob25602 жыл бұрын

    Omg the sponsor transition was next level. 💯💯💯

  • @loch1361
    @loch13612 жыл бұрын

    You make some really interesting points

  • @archienkonjera9281
    @archienkonjera92812 жыл бұрын

    Loki was a threat he had a huge army backing him up

  • @mookgaming3914
    @mookgaming39142 жыл бұрын

    You should do age of Ultron vs joss whedon justice league That would be a good comparison imo

  • @splash8429

    @splash8429

    2 жыл бұрын

    Age of ulton is much much better. I don't think AOU is even a bad movie. It's overstuffed especially trying to plant seeds for future movies which caused them to go off rail from the main plot of the movie but overall, it handled itself decently all things considered. JL 2017 was just awful in every way.

  • @ismaelali9422
    @ismaelali94222 жыл бұрын

    This video is a HUGE W. Well said.

  • @splash8429
    @splash84292 жыл бұрын

    Avengers movie was first of its kind. It was the first time something to this extent ever happened. So they were really going for a light hearted superhero crossover spectacle where they obviously didn't wanna go too deep and make it any kind of depressing. So for what it was set to do, it did its job well and beyond and prove that it's really possible to make an universe and be successful. And the movie overall was so much fun. But JL was a better overall movie

  • @RodrequezRobinson2001

    @RodrequezRobinson2001

    2 жыл бұрын

    Justice league a better overall movie, sike that's a good joke my nigga you should be a comedian 🤣

  • @CC-dm3iy

    @CC-dm3iy

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@RodrequezRobinson2001 idk if he means the snyder cut or the josstice league. But the snyder cut is better than first avengers in every point

  • @chaithanyanaidu8716

    @chaithanyanaidu8716

    2 жыл бұрын

    fun fact there is a darker version of avengers where movie starts with maria hill talking to council , and including cap's time in new future, and ending with maria hill speech instead of nick fury

  • @jeffcunningham0389

    @jeffcunningham0389

    2 жыл бұрын

    Are you saying that’s factual or your opinion. Cuz in my opinion the Avengers is the much better movie

  • @splash8429

    @splash8429

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jeffcunningham0389 obviously my opinion

  • @Gangstanoob1998
    @Gangstanoob19982 жыл бұрын

    I don't think it would be fair to compare ZSJL with IF like you did with the first Avengers film. They're very different films. One is supposed to be the beginning of a team up and an over arching storyline BUILDING UP to Darkseid, and the other is a a near culmination of almost 10 years worth of films with the pay off of building to Thanos in it.

  • @aaronensley9048

    @aaronensley9048

    2 жыл бұрын

    4 years...

  • @GaParanormal

    @GaParanormal

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lol avengers is still..the..start..of..a ..team ...building.....sorry guess I'm just confused lmao made no sense bro

  • @Gangstanoob1998

    @Gangstanoob1998

    2 жыл бұрын

    Clearly, none of you read my comment properly.

  • @King_Vangelis
    @King_Vangelis2 жыл бұрын

    Here is one thing that makes ZSJL better. In avengers the climax is kinda underwhelming. Which is meant to be the most exciting part. So it didn’t feel like a climax. While ZSJL had a climax that was the best part of the movie. Which is saying al lot. It actually felt like what a climax to a story should be.

  • @ericericson5633

    @ericericson5633

    2 жыл бұрын

    The Avengers SHOWS US civilians in danger so the heroes get the chance to be heroes. Zack Snyder's Justice League is just a big mess of CGI diarrhea. Why am I supposed to care what happens to anyone when I can't see what they're fighting for?

  • @Retr008

    @Retr008

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ericericson5633 why should I care about them again? There not important they prove nothing to the story XD,you need a better taste in movie directing so here is a little lesson: if you want people to actually feel for characters make the memerable and actually important (something that Zack does perfectly) and not make a complete mess with CGI like what wedon did...but ofc your not gonna listen be and be a stubborn lil kid that takes info from the internet so yeah

  • @Vesohag

    @Vesohag

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ericericson5633 so you missed Cyborg's vision on what will happen if the Unity gets activated? With the whole world being destroyed? That's what is at stake. Also the lives of the heroes, so we care for them. We even see them die and if it wasn't because of Flash and Cyborg at that point, they would have lost.

  • @jeffcunningham0389

    @jeffcunningham0389

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thats bullshit. ZSJL is a great climax but so was the Avengers. That was the first of its kind and I still believe its better and more FUN than ZSJL. Theres literally nothing underwhelming about it unless u already want to dislike it

  • @Vesohag

    @Vesohag

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jeffcunningham0389 I'd say that one thing that was underwhelming to me on the climax was that the Chitauri troops never felt like a threat and more of a thing for the heroes to do cool stunts. Which they were really cool but it is against a bunch of creatures that never really hurt any of the Avengers or put them at risk. On the other hand we see the Parademons killing Amazons, dragging Atlantians out of the sea, hurting Flash twice and almost killing Batman at the chase scene. They do feel like a threat because you see stakes. Plus, the Steppenwolf fights Vs Loki barely doing anything.

  • @antoineabraham7188
    @antoineabraham71887 ай бұрын

    This one is freaking awesome 👏🏾 I’m subscribed

  • @EricCarter12

    @EricCarter12

    7 ай бұрын

    Thanks! I hope you enjoy my previous and future content!

  • @FlashEditz404
    @FlashEditz4042 жыл бұрын

    YOOOO THIS IS INSANE!!!

  • @kinggoku7332
    @kinggoku73322 жыл бұрын

    I wanna see zack Snyder’s justice league vs avengers infinity war

  • @familytwitchen7624
    @familytwitchen76242 жыл бұрын

    I Love Your Video's Eric Carter

  • @EricCarter12

    @EricCarter12

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks. I love your comments!!

  • @thisguy555
    @thisguy5552 жыл бұрын

    “And now, I feel like it.” 😂🔥

  • @adamgrunther1367
    @adamgrunther13672 жыл бұрын

    Eric, have you have seen the Christopher Reeve Superman movies? Knowing how you prefer your comic book movies to be more grounded and serious I’m genuinely curious to know your thoughts on those movies.

  • @EricCarter12

    @EricCarter12

    2 жыл бұрын

    I saw the first two movies YEARS ago. I do need to watch them again at some point. I can't really remember what I thought of the first movie but I remember thoroughly enjoying the second movie

  • @spyder-man0462
    @spyder-man04622 жыл бұрын

    Do Suicide Squad (2016) Vs The Suicide Squad (2021)

  • @fatnibbanoah1082

    @fatnibbanoah1082

    2 жыл бұрын

    that would be the easiest sweep of all time for the suicide squad 😭 the 2016 one is so bad

  • @odil7583
    @odil75832 жыл бұрын

    The Snyder cut is far more interesting and entertaining than the first avengers. But I do think that the first avengers was a good first movie for the avengers

  • @Elektr0hazard

    @Elektr0hazard

    Жыл бұрын

    I believe SHIELD makes a huge difference. Avengers has this tone where this huge corporation, this 'official' sort of organisation, has control over the world's current state and they're putting these heroes together as a job and beyond it being a big potential global catastrophe, it still feels like another day of corporate job. ZSJL is Batman, alone, being tormented by this thing Luthor said, what he saw in Luthor's hard drive, after seeing Doomsday almost obliviate the world in a couple hours. He's so worried that he's actively looking to make a team with these strangers he knows nothing about, desperately even. When everything happens just feels like these 6 heroes are always on their own, Steppenwolf's base is in a place without humans for years, no one around the world really knows how close they are from extinction and they are giving their everything for everyone. It's just so much richer emotionally, they're alone against the oldest and darkest power in the universe and they stand proud. You can almost feel that pride yourself when watching the movie, incredibly immersive

  • @Myday_145
    @Myday_1452 жыл бұрын

    Amazing video again Eric, boredom healed

  • @EricCarter12

    @EricCarter12

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks buddy. 😊

  • @Bruhgangy
    @Bruhgangy2 жыл бұрын

    My bro is sponsored Good work my guy

  • @EricCarter12

    @EricCarter12

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks buddy! 😊

  • @filmvipers
    @filmvipers2 жыл бұрын

    Its because Avengers (2012) is made by Joss Whedon

  • @stevanmlinar3733
    @stevanmlinar37332 жыл бұрын

    Cap and Iron Man recruiting a team, what a brilliant thought! P.S Im genuinely agree with everything you said, ZS Justice League is in a class of Infinity War kind of movie, as flash said one of the best of the best.

  • @filthyneutral5801

    @filthyneutral5801

    2 жыл бұрын

    That doesn't even make any sense. At the time, iron man worked alone and even declined joining the avengers at the end of iron man 2. Hell, in the beginning of avengers 1 he didn't even want to meet with coulson. As for cap, he just became unfrozen

  • @kornelltayewilliams5421
    @kornelltayewilliams54212 жыл бұрын

    How did you know I wanted this

  • @fuckalldisneyremakesorigin5560
    @fuckalldisneyremakesorigin55602 жыл бұрын

    Both are awesome.

  • @TheAwsomeSawse
    @TheAwsomeSawse2 жыл бұрын

    It always bugged me that The Avengers never actually did any avenging until Endgame.

  • @riteousrighthand6144
    @riteousrighthand61442 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for comparing these two films. Whether you love or hate either one, I got so tired of people trying to compare ZSJL to IW, or Endgame, when this was literally the DC equivalent of the first Avengers movie.

  • @SathishKumar-sk8fe

    @SathishKumar-sk8fe

    2 жыл бұрын

    Like how people comparing The dark Knight and The Batman. Where The dark Knight is a sequel to Batman begins and The Batman first entry in it's series. Also I don't like comparing The Batman and no way home for obvious reasons.

  • @riteousrighthand6144

    @riteousrighthand6144

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@SathishKumar-sk8fe Yeah, especially No Way Home. I mean, if there was a film with multiple live action Batmen(like the upcoming flash film) that might be comparable to NWH.

  • @Muhammad_Shadab_Rahmani5.

    @Muhammad_Shadab_Rahmani5.

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@SathishKumar-sk8fe why would you compare nwh and the batman that's like comparing a door to a fan there is no relation

  • @abbasmerchant3161
    @abbasmerchant31612 жыл бұрын

    I was waiting for this for a long time

  • @thomasb6283
    @thomasb62832 жыл бұрын

    If only Zack Snyders Justice League existed in 2017. The problem is, the DCEU will always carry the baggage of Josstice League on it's shoulders which ruined the DCEU moving forward. And they also needed a second chance to make a better movie than Avengers. Marvels Avengers didn't need a second chance, their first impression was their best and that's why the MCU is very successful to this very day.

  • @TheBlond49

    @TheBlond49

    2 жыл бұрын

    Worst part is that WB still considers Josstice League canon.

  • @bolehew3057

    @bolehew3057

    Жыл бұрын

    The MCU will always reign supreme because of one man, and one man only. Kevin Feige. Anybody that knows anything about filmmaking recognizes what he has done is nothing short of groundbreaking. He’s a unicorn. If only the WB had someone like him to steer their universe. Maybe it wouldn’t be such a mess.

  • @Oracle1426

    @Oracle1426

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bolehew3057 1-3 are good but 4 is trash

  • @ludwigrinehart9941
    @ludwigrinehart99412 жыл бұрын

    This video is amazing, it's true that if you look at both zack snyder's justice league and avengers 1, zack snyder justice league has more themes and more story behind it and more indepth character moments and arcs. but Justice league probably wouldnt have been possible of avengers hadn't come before it.I also think justice league is visually stunning there are scenes in justice league that I would love to put on my background. Oh and I gave the video a like.

  • @EricCarter12

    @EricCarter12

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks buddy! 😊

  • @Antonio33880

    @Antonio33880

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@EricCarter12(2016 suicide squad) vs (2021 suicide squad)

  • @TheScarletSlayer

    @TheScarletSlayer

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@EricCarter12 kzread.info/dash/bejne/eJmDlKSJgKiwYJM.html A minute video I made in regards to this video. It's not ment to be taken seriously but I think you'll know why I made it in a moment 🧐🙂

  • @pedronieves1635
    @pedronieves1635 Жыл бұрын

    So freaking cool to see someone break this down. Ive had this argument for so long and no one wants to hear it.

  • @coolphoenix_0724
    @coolphoenix_07242 жыл бұрын

    The Flash's theme song in the end is chef's kiss.

  • @IsraelNowIsraelForever
    @IsraelNowIsraelForever2 жыл бұрын

    You also need to watch Wonder Woman before watching Justice League, Zack Snyder's Justice League, and Zack Snyder's Justice League: Justice League: Justice Is Gray Edition. #RestoreTheSnyderVerse #ZackSnydersJusticeLeague #UsUnited

  • @Vor567tez
    @Vor567tez Жыл бұрын

    One thing DC does best is power dynamic. You will actually get the sense of danger and stakes whereas Marvel has Nat a mere human going against aliens, Ned suddenly doing magical portal which took Strange yrs to practice. MCU always has been inconsistent with their power chart. Which is why alot of time it feels very less intense.

  • @pulpmoon4453
    @pulpmoon44532 жыл бұрын

    Bro Zack really did the seven samurai formula, I watched the movie last night and you know some of the aspect of Kurosawa are in the movie

  • @annalynn4667
    @annalynn46672 жыл бұрын

    I am one minute in to the video and know it will be great

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