15 minute paid advert - trustworthy. Thanks.

Look good it would be nice to hire one for those who don’t do plumbing every day and are comfortable doing there own work 👍

@SkillBuilder

11 ай бұрын

We agree!

Gripping stuff Roger!

Nice bit of kit.

I was lent one last year to try for a week. Fantastic tool, I was very impressed. However, I only fit bathrooms and most of my work is in tight spots with an emphasis on hiding pipes in whatever space is available. The tool is too large for these situations so I still had to deal with blowtorch and fire safety. I simply have no room for two sets of pipe jointing. But if I ever got into 1st fixing on new builds, it'll be a no brainer.

@SkillBuilder

11 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

@tambias

11 ай бұрын

The rems press gun has different heads for doing up your fitting at any angle. personally i have a tendancy to pre press the fittings outwith the bath basin etc.Then generally one press each under the bath/basin

@grrinc

11 ай бұрын

@@tambias handy to know but often the issue was the bulk of the heads when pipes are close to each other or right next joists or studs. It's a great tool for sure but having both press and flame on one job is pointless

@tambias

11 ай бұрын

100% mate,i am still old school blowtorch and yorkies but the younger boys i work with use the rems gun,it honestly has heads for every application but bloody pricey!

This looks excellent, apart from being a bit big for tight spaces, I think I might invest.

The fun part about crimp connectors is that they may start leaking months after assembly. I like copper connectors that stay tight for a lifetime. Alloy is your ally for peace of mind.

good work roger !

@SkillBuilder

11 ай бұрын

Thanks Mark

Setting fire to things is part of the fun!! 🤣 Not really for an amateur like me - I'll stick with solder and the occasional speedfit! Interesting tool though. I can see it has lots of advantages for a tradesman. Thanks for the video.

Will press fit fittings work on jg speedfit pipe to make copper to plastic joint? Tia

Ee Rodger you're looking really fanatical in this video!

@SkillBuilder

11 ай бұрын

I often do, I have that mad look. I could have had a career playing nutters in the movies

@nonoyorbusness

11 ай бұрын

@@SkillBuilder LOL! 😊 !

@ep1981

11 ай бұрын

If it’s a movie where the nutter breaks in and tells you what your builder messed up and how it should have been done… I’d watch it

I'm still in the mental stage of planning how I want to redo my pipe works. I'm in the states. It's either going to be Pex, or copper with crimp fittings like this. I used to be a pvc/cpvc guy but now I'm old enough to have directly experienced how it becomes brittle and I don't like that. I do electrical as well and being able to run Pex like NM wire has serious advantages in my eyes, in terms of just being quicker and easier and perhaps even getting a cleaner looking result. and I forgot to mention that copper can be tricky for someone not a professional at it, and I don't need pin holes 5 or 10 years down the line which is why the crimp is appealing even though I can solder

In principal are these compression fittings?

What are your thoughts on the M and V profiles? As I understand it the V is better yet the Z-press only available with M

We did the waste for an RAF base in 1.5 and 2 inch stainless crimp at their request, I quite enjoyed it, better than the usual solvent weld stuff we do on jobs. We just hired the tool and heads and it was pretty easy given I'd never done any before.

@SkillBuilder

11 ай бұрын

I wonder why the RAF needs such a durable waste pipe?

@paul756uk2

11 ай бұрын

@@SkillBuilder They don't. It's a bottomless pit when it's being funded by the taxpayer.

@TheWebstaff

11 ай бұрын

@@SkillBuilder it's the RAF they consume anything and everything so you don't know what's going in the waste pipes!

@TheDoosh79

11 ай бұрын

@@SkillBuilder To be fair it was mainly in the catering areas. Same goes with prisons, they get seriously overkill spec stuff as well.

Jamie mentioned about the refrigeration fittings and compatibility between the refrigeration jaws and machines. If you search for ">B< MaxiPro Technical Brochure", Conex Banninger's document lists the compatibility of these refrigeration jaws and the various machines which can use them.

@SkillBuilder

11 ай бұрын

Thanks for the tip

press is awesome

@SkillBuilder

11 ай бұрын

I know you use it all the time. What is your machine?

👍👍👍Thanks

Will this press the brass pro press ball valves

M Press now do WaterGas fittings that can be used on both gas and water,and are WRAS approved. I have a REMS mini press and have done since 2016. This one looks good.

How much for a fully working kit from them. All the bits you'd need for your day to day?

I’ve never used pressfit but I definitely think it might be something I’m gonna have to get in to due to the no hot works issues. I’d like to hear from guys that do a lot of boiler installs. How do you find it for instance when doing a combi swap? I fit logics and the pre-made tails bring you off the wall at Clíp distance. Are these jaws small enough to get in between the vertical pipes as they run up the wall and behind the pipe at Clíp distance?

@SkillBuilder

11 ай бұрын

Most of that pipework can be pre-fabricated and clipped to the wall. It just requires a slightly different approach but it works fine

I still think soldered columns of copper pipework including parallel cross overs and especially street fittings just look more neater compact and professional. I do agree though that press fittings are useful on long pipe runs and under floorboards and attics where they could be the likelihood of a fire. Just my own opinion very good video.

Biggest advantage over solider was not mentioned . You can connect one pipe to the fitting at a time . ie Two pipes of a tee then add to set up with the last one . 100% would have one if I was trade but as a DIYer will have to stick to my Rothenberger just due to price .

Thoughts on Pex piping? I do not see it all that much in the UK

@SkillBuilder

11 ай бұрын

Most of it is under the floor but there is plenty of it about

I didn’t hear him saying the tool must be recalibrated every 6 months or so in order for the warranty to be valid. We strong armed Pro-Press into providing loaners during this time. We have bought over a thousand different press tools since they first came out.

@SkillBuilder

11 ай бұрын

I didn't say that it needs to be callibrated every six months because it isn't true. There is a counter on the tool which tells you when it is due for a service. If you reached that number in a week then you would have to send it in but for a lot of people it might be a year or even two.

Propress, Z-Press, M-Press what else do they have? I am confused.

All this talk of Zupper, it's making me hungry...

I wonder if the O rings are lasting longer than the push fits O rings and how do they rate in an external, application or Acid/Alkali environment ?

@SkillBuilder

11 ай бұрын

I share your concern and have looked into the lifespan of EPDM 'O' rings in the past and all I can say is that they will outlast most of the people doing the job. They are very good for hot and cold and are used in motor vehicles and braking systems. They do not like hydrocarbons so keep them away from oil.

@troyboy4345

11 ай бұрын

@@SkillBuilder Lets hope they outlast the customer then pal ....

@bertveldhuizen8699

4 ай бұрын

The O-rings are not what makes the water tight connection, it's just a backup. The copper to copper pressing is what makes it water tight.

Why are these machines so blimmin expensive, they have a battery and look like a multi tool, but are over a grand to buy Compared to other tools with similar internal gubbings if you get my drift. What’s so special or different in them??? I’d love to know

@PrinceBarin77

11 ай бұрын

Far less demand I expect. I also presume these are a calibrated compression tool to ensure the pressure applied is within the correct tolerance for ensuring a tight fit without crushing the fitting - the R&D and manufacturing tolerances etc will need recovering to make this profitable.

How does that O-ring handle High temperatures?

@SkillBuilder

11 ай бұрын

Very well, it is used in all kinds of high temperature situations.

What model number is this please

I've been involved with 63mm stainless mapress stuff, that's a ball ache when you get that wrong 😂

@SkillBuilder

11 ай бұрын

Hi Andy I agree but when you get to those sizes you are playing in a different league. Happily my work stops at 28mm.

After my new extension caught fire I'm a fervent supporter of press fit and no hot working.

Are all press fit systems compatible with each other?

@SkillBuilder

11 ай бұрын

No you have to go for the designated fittings that match the jaws

Like plumbing with Robby the Robot

Only ever used pressfit stuff once last year. It must be good or it wouldn't be so popular now but I'm still a dinasaur and like good old fashioned solder or compression fittings. I would be interested to see a pressfit joint in 20 or 30 years time.

@grrinc

11 ай бұрын

I'd argue compression doesn't hold out for that long either

@iwb70

11 ай бұрын

True, but a quarter turn will probably solve the problem on a compression fitting, done while the system is live. I imagine it wouldn't be a simple fix on a weepy press fit fitting.

@nickhickson8738

11 ай бұрын

Just how long does that internal O ring seal last with a very hot water environment.

How long do the o rings last before going brittle?

@SkillBuilder

11 ай бұрын

I am not sure when they would go brittle if ever but they give them a life expectancy of 50 years. Lubricant is in the mix not added afterwards

@nyquiloxide941

Ай бұрын

The o rings are backup. It will seal even without the o rings. Check KZread

Looks identical to the allpha press

How long does the o-ring last?

@SkillBuilder

11 ай бұрын

I have looked at this subject across several sources. EPDM 'O' rings are said to be good for at least 50 years. Of all 'O' ring material it is one of the most durable. The press fit locks the pipe to the fitting so there is zero movement on the pipe where it enters the 'o' ring. Just keep them away from hydrocarbons. Also avoid mechanical damage when assembling or storing fittings.

@cglees

11 ай бұрын

@@SkillBuilder great thank you 😊 that’s really good

How much is the tool

Roger, compared to something like the REMS Akku press, which is more than twice the price of the Z-Press it's a bargain. Unexpectedly B&Q seem to be the cheapest retailer for the Z-Press at the moment.

Once worked on a (very) large industrial site and nearing completion , returned to work following a weekend and a bank holiday Monday to find basement under 4ft of water due to weak batteries on push fit tool . No doubt used error involved but the tool is definitely in need of a charge indicator !

@SkillBuilder

11 ай бұрын

Hi Kevin There is something strange about that. The pressure required to complete the cycle means the jaws remain in the closed position. If the tool fails to complete the cycle you can't open those jaws. No doubt someone else with more press fit experience will comment but I am mystified.

@andycrask3531

11 ай бұрын

Was it not pressure tested??

@kevinobrien5964

11 ай бұрын

I was an electrician on the job and it was a few years ago so yes more info is needed . Sorry i didn't mean to mis-lead . Maybe the tools come a long way in a few years. I can highly recommend the electrical version .

@eddiereed5025

11 ай бұрын

@@SkillBuilder Agree Roger more likely operatives missed pressing the joint we always mark the joints as pressed with operatives initials

#ad

I agree. But on my side of the pond. If you're working by the hour. You have to charge everytime i bring it out. Because I'm spending on the tool and losing on the labor

@grrinc

11 ай бұрын

Good point.

@Ken_Myette

11 ай бұрын

I charge $100. Each time

@SkillBuilder

11 ай бұрын

That argument has gone back and forth for years. A man digging a hole charging by the hour or a JCB digging the same hole, you charge for the hole. When I bought my first diamond core bits they were a lot of money so I charged £10.00 per hole on top of labour.

@Ken_Myette

11 ай бұрын

@@SkillBuilder Thanks for making my point

What about earth continuity, is this maintained?

@SkillBuilder

10 ай бұрын

yes

Oh dear - O-rings... Time will tell.

@nyquiloxide941

Ай бұрын

Rings are for backup. The crimp is what seals. You need to use hydraulic press not the electronic press for pex

I have had this gun for a year now and its been brilliant so far! Only downfall is that there are no angled jaws!

@SkillBuilder

11 ай бұрын

Maybe soon

@grrinc

11 ай бұрын

@@SkillBuilder hope so

@galaxydave69

8 ай бұрын

How's the press tool been have you gave it a hard time thinking of ordering

@markhare5066

8 ай бұрын

@@galaxydave69 Yeah still a very good tool. No problems other than a few user errors!! Also takes Makita batteries if you have any.

@galaxydave69

8 ай бұрын

@markhare5066 ok I'm gona go for it seamed to good to be true at that price thanks for your feedback

Jamie?? His shirt says his name is Wes.

Gripping stuff 🤙🏾🧱🧱

most large builders have moved away from this due to insurance issues, it's mainly down to improper fitting

Looks good but I find push fit so easy to use in most situations that I could not warrant purchasing such a tool.

And the question we all wanted to ask was how much£...?

M-Contour or V-contour?

@SkillBuilder

7 ай бұрын

M contour

We will find out in the next 10 yrs if press fit was a good idea

Does Rodger have eyelids?

@SkillBuilder

11 ай бұрын

No, and he can't close them when he sleeps.

@JamesBond-xj4uj

11 ай бұрын

@@SkillBuilder 😂😂🤝🤝

two jaws you will ever need th and V or M it will do all of them

But press fit is still based on o-rings in fittings. They never last

@SkillBuilder

11 ай бұрын

Define 'last'

@billgriffin7346

11 ай бұрын

I'm an engineer in the food Industry, and the bloody things are always popping. On the whole you can repair compression and push fit fittings pretty easily but the press fittings are a pain in the !!!!

@paul756uk2

11 ай бұрын

@@SkillBuilder About the length of time until the installer's reached retirement age.

@TheWebstaff

11 ай бұрын

@@SkillBuilder middle of the night long after fitting. Drip, drip, drip. Shhhhhsssssss. Bang as the roof falls in. When a seal goes they don't always give long before the blow by.

@davidpotter3717

11 ай бұрын

Wasn't it a problem with O rings that caused the Challenger Space shuttle to crash?

The motor on mine burnt out after 270 presses from this manufacturer. I'm in the process of sending it back for repair. Its going to cost 120 quid to post it and get it back. Wish I went for a nova press

@SkillBuilder

10 ай бұрын

Give me all the details, it should be under warranty and I will find out why not. We never promote things that we don't believe are good so it is important to us to establish the facts.

HOW MUCH ££££ ???

The rubber is gonna break down, innit?

@TheWebstaff

11 ай бұрын

So Roger if people keep saying that.

Disadvantage is you need to get everything right first time. Make a booby and you then have to rip it out and start again.

the fact that i couldn't find the price anywhere, it means they hide it because is expensive. So ,yes it's clean,quick.reliable but they failled to make it affordable . Better look for cheaper alternatives

@SkillBuilder

10 ай бұрын

It is under a thousand pounds and you can get it through your independent merchant. Nobody is hiding the price and I have not seen a cheaper machine on the market that is any good so I wish you luck with that.

Dont Hilti do one? Lol

@SkillBuilder

11 ай бұрын

Actually they do but it is a strange beast starting at 19mm and then going to 22mm and that is it.

Why do you not compare prices on tools and fittings even as a ruff gide.

@SkillBuilder

11 ай бұрын

For the very simple reason that our videos stay on our channel for years. It is very easy these days to do a price check on any product. We also have a fair number of viewers across the world so talking British Pounds confuses the life out of them.

@teversoncoleman496

11 ай бұрын

Videos are time/dated well on my tablet they are. Surely in this day and age viewers can convert British pounds to their currency.

Roger a Z-Press Press Fit Kit - 15 to 28mm £759.95 ex vat !! you having a laugh . no wonder you didn't mention the price as a gilded apprentice served (5 years) plumber ill stick to solder. ps enjoy the Chanell

@SkillBuilder

11 ай бұрын

I know plenty of plumbers who spent well over a £1,000 plus vat on their kit so that seems like a good deal to me. When we did our last soldering video we got comments from people who couldn't believe that we hadn't moved on to soldering. Out of interest what do plumbers charge in your part of the world? I didn't mention the price because the videos stay on our channel for years. I am never afraid of talking money but we can't possibly know what deals are going on any given time.

@100mvua

11 ай бұрын

@@SkillBuilder fair point

@Asgardsteve1

11 ай бұрын

There are some used ones out there for about £450

Is it as good as the Victorians?

Been about for donkies, just not in a domestic setting.

They are easy to use but when you have to do alterations at a later date it turns nightmarish very quickly.

@SkillBuilder

11 ай бұрын

Do you unsweat fittings, I usually cut them out and put in new ones. Same applies here.

@grrinc

11 ай бұрын

​@@SkillBuilderagreed, unsweating and cleaning up is a ball ache. Cut back and start afresh

@Ken_Myette

11 ай бұрын

It's not that bad. I use an angle grinder with a cut off wheel. Cut into the fitting not all the way. Then pop it open with a flat head screwdriver

Not compliant with gas regulation which prohibits use of any plastic parts. O ring is a form of plastic

@juyhfrty

11 ай бұрын

Press fit is. You fit the fittings with yellow, not black, o rings, usually marked gas on the fitting.

@SkillBuilder

11 ай бұрын

There are approved gas fittings for press fit.

@nickhickson8738

11 ай бұрын

O ring is a synthetic polymer.

Looks like a solution to a non existent problem, a bit like electric parking brakes and space saver tyres.

£ 900 inc vat.....no thanks 👍

@YoutubeHero666

11 ай бұрын

£655 on aliexpress delivered

Not for me

Been common in France for a decade. Don’t think British ‘tradesmen’ have the level of professionalism required.

@SkillBuilder

11 ай бұрын

What a load of nonsense you speak.

no skill in press fit and all the skill is going out of the trades its all about speed not quality any more

@SkillBuilder

11 ай бұрын

Rob I have heard that argument for years. I learned to wipe lead joints with molten lead and a moleskin. I also caulked cast iron. There is nothing inherently superior about difficult tasks. What we are looking for is leak free plumbing and this is it,

A massively overpriced tool.

@SkillBuilder

11 ай бұрын

I said it is competitively priced. If you don't agree check out Rothenberger and Rems, both are over a thousand quid.

@stepbackandthink

11 ай бұрын

​@@SkillBuilder Doesn't mean the tool isn't overpriced, just means it's overpriced everywhere. They could easily sell this for £500, it's just greed which they get away with because of a lack of manufacturers. Sit back and wait for the flood of reasonably priced Chinese alternatives all you'll see what I mean. Gone are the days when you can scoff at cheaper Chinese products.

I find it funny you brit bongs use imperial and metric, why just not go with god's measurements and use imperial all the time?

@sugarpuff2978

11 ай бұрын

Do you really believe in imaginary friends?

@LupusMechanicus

11 ай бұрын

@@sugarpuff2978 Why not your lack of belief is your imaginary friend...

@SkillBuilder

11 ай бұрын

Lupus God gave us free will so we could choose what we want. He also gave us the power of reason and if people use that reason to deduce that he/she/it does not exist that is also God's work.

@LupusMechanicus

11 ай бұрын

@@SkillBuilder Well technically imperial measurement is from the demiurge it is derived from the speed of light and circumference of the earth. I was just joking there is no God's measurement.

@gdfggggg

11 ай бұрын

Brits have the brain capacity to use both 🇬🇧

No prices on their website ! Put me off straight away. Ridiculous way to market a new product !!