"Haha you should totally make wyrms be counted as dragons, I have no ideological bias in this..." insert picture of REDMD and Mo Ye operating a laptop.

@modernkiwi6447

3 ай бұрын

Sordswole strongest (Based on Tiraments strongest)

@aeugh8998

3 ай бұрын

Totally not wanting another engine for Dragon Link

@RamixTheRed

3 ай бұрын

Mo Ye and REDMD forbidden Romeo and Juliet lovestory when???

@residentgrey

3 ай бұрын

That is based on West vs East dragons too. They sorta wanted a special class with their own support

Missed the thread, but: Fun fact - until the release of the Illusions in DUNE, there was at least one offbrand dragon in EVERY type. Shaddoll Dragon is a Spellcaster. Immortal Dragon is a Zombie. Ken the Warrior Dragon is a Warrior. Double Dragon Lords is a Beast-Warrior. Black Dragon Ninja is a Beast. Rindbrumm the Striking Dragon is a Winged Beast. Grapha, Dragon Lord of Dark World is a Fiend. Cloudian Storm Dragon is a Fairy. Dragonbite is an Insect. Bayerock Dragon is a Dinosaur. Evil Dragon Ananta is a Reptile. Ravenous Crocodragon Archethys is a Fish. Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier is a Sea Serpent. Solar Flare Dragon is a Pyro. Thunder Dragon is a Thunder. Block Dragon is a Rock. Snapdragon is a Plant. Cyber Dragon is a Machine. PUNK Jam Dragon Drive is a Psychic. The Winged Dragon of Ra is a Divine Beast. Mudragon of the Swamp is a Wyrm. Firewall Dragon is a Cyberse.

@123roland6

3 ай бұрын

I don't think I would count Double Dragon Lords for this. That's more of a titel. The chemicritter xyz (no idea why the hell exactly it's a beast warrior) or the pendulum "dragoons of draconia" work perfectly for this though.

@Zetact_

3 ай бұрын

The thing about a lot of common themes like "Dragons" or even just "humanoids" that are a "weird" type is that it's thematically more relevant to have them be their other type compared to just being like, "He's a person, he can't be a Rock-type." I mean the game would be really ridiculously limited if every human had to be a Warrior or Spellcaster. Or with this logic, if every single monster that looks like a dragon has to be Dragon-type. Like, "Oh, sorry, Cloudian Storm Dragon, I know that you're part of a Fairy archetype and you aren't an actual dragon but because you look like a dragon I guess you need to be Dragon-type."

@RamixTheRed

3 ай бұрын

Honorable mention to like half of the Albaz fusions

@alchemistarcher02

3 ай бұрын

I'm sure that in due time, Illusion will have its very own dragon. I think this is what Yugioh is all about, just making anything a dragon all the time

@eight6155

3 ай бұрын

Also Graydle Dragon - Aqua

Funny thing about "The Wicked" cards; they actually were supposed to be divine beasts, but they were printed before the egyptian gods were legal, so they were changed to fiends. They would have basically been Dark Divine Beasts to the OG's light themed Divine Beasts

@DrAiPatch

3 ай бұрын

They also would have been way better than the God cards. Like Eraser is one of my favorite cards ever it's a beat stick that can get super huge super easily and a field nuke.

@RanDoomPuff

3 ай бұрын

Pretty sure this is true with the sacred beasts and nordic gods aswell

@Lord_Phoenix95

3 ай бұрын

​@@RanDoomPuff Yeah, the Asier where Divine Beasts and Divine Attribute too.

@babrad

3 ай бұрын

Still having hopes for support since they were in the poll with Traptrix Sacred Beast etc and all other options got their support. They are even mentioned in "Divine Evolution" which is strictly Egyptian God support.

@idosarts_and_krafts

3 ай бұрын

And something even funnier; the Egyptian gods themselves HAVE DUAL TYPING! slifer ( divine-beast/dragon) obelisk ( divine-beast/rock) and ra, personally the most unusual (divine-beast/machine)

I think the funniest part about Nirvana High Paladin is that's it's seeing play right now in Tenpai Dragon over at the OCG as the monster they leave on field when doing a line that sets up Secret Village of the Spellcasters.

@bird__xyz9520

3 ай бұрын

Wow I've just looked it up and using AFD to pivot through the field spell and then make Nirvana (with a backup Fairy tail snow in grave thx to shooting riser) is the most based setup for a floodgate I've ever seen.

@aeugh8998

3 ай бұрын

WE ARE GETTING CLOSER TO 2121 🗣🔥

I'm glad you got around to this topic. Dual typings always seemed like something YGO could do but didn't because they wanted to keep as much distance away from Pokemon as they could. At this point though, we haven't had a new mechanic since 2017, and this could be a cool thing to see without creating like, Trap Pendulums lmao

@VixYW

3 ай бұрын

As in, monsters that are also traps, or traps that are also spells? Because we already have traps that are also monsters.

@nukeruranium9417

3 ай бұрын

​@@VixYWprobably means monsters that are also traps. Like a monster that is normal/special summonable but can also be set in your backrow

@valonyaver600

3 ай бұрын

@@nukeruranium9417 damn monsters that you can set in your backrow would be crazy. I sure am glad they never added something like that.

@dudono1744

3 ай бұрын

@@valonyaver600 Infernity players disagree

@hiimemily

3 ай бұрын

​@@dudono1744 fuckin' beat me to it lmao

To this day it bugs the shit out of me that Yu-Gi-Oh! has a subtype all about monsters equipping to monsters, but they then made so many monsters that have effects that equip themselves to other monsters that are NOT that type.

@Zetact_

3 ай бұрын

And there are Yosenjus which mechanically AND thematically are just Spirit monsters and the only reason they aren't listed as such must be that Konami forgot that Spirit monsters exist.

@TraaaaaasshBooooaaaatttt

3 ай бұрын

​@@Zetact_ do you remember the original spirit monster? Wicked worm beast

@DeviousHands

3 ай бұрын

@@Zetact_ pretty sure the reason for this is supposed to be that spirits cannot be Special Summoned which prevents Yosenju from working with its pendulum mechanic, but spirits have stopped caring about that shit ages ago make em spirits

@Merilirem

3 ай бұрын

I am more annoyed about how union works in general. The mechanic itself should be a keyword for the equip monster protecting its partner and or being summoned when the equipped is removed from the field.

@nyanbrox5418

3 ай бұрын

Unions also can unequip themselves, equip monsters can't

7:05 I like this idea a lot. Another example: What if the Earthbound Immortals were all field spells that turn into monsters with a sacrifice? They’re literally giant geoglyphs coming to life to kill you.

@mestre12

3 ай бұрын

Ok. You are cooking for sure.

@apollyon1311

3 ай бұрын

Something along the lines of: Use the pendulum cards layout but remove the scales Naazca Earthbound Immortal [monster name] [Type] Effect [Field spell symbol] Monster effect: You can activate this card as a field spell from your hand. [Rest of the effect] Field Spell effect: You can tribute 2 monsters you control to special summon this card, and if you do, you can activate a "Earthbound" field spell from your hand, GY or Deck.

@Sasquatch_sightings

3 ай бұрын

Oh, that one was my idea! I almost pitched a retrained Pyramid Turtle as a field/monster for Triamids, but then that would answer the age old debate of “is Pyramid turtle the size of a pyramid, or is a regularly sized turtle with a mini pyramid on its back?”

@ItsReallyColdOutside

3 ай бұрын

this idea fucks

@Red_Steampunker

3 ай бұрын

@@apollyon1311nah nah. “If no field spell, you can place this monster in the field zone as a field spell. And then each gliph does its own cool special thing. Like different starters. And then add cards that cap pop, then chain a new monster to become field so on resolution your shit earthbound don’t die lmao. That or make it to where they can act like additional field spells in spell zone.

okay, but the arcana and field spell monster people were deff in the kitchen.

@CountofBleck

3 ай бұрын

Triamids tried to do this with the field spell shifting modes. it didnt super pan out well.

@MrRiko929

3 ай бұрын

@@CountofBleck cooked a lil to early lmfao just take the tiapan way out and print a tower monster field spell (this time without the "except this card" clause amazoness style)

@MegaBichiX

3 ай бұрын

@@CountofBleck Trammid need a Pendulum Fusion monster that summons itself by shuffling 2 fieldspells back into the deck and turns into a fieldspell when destroyed(instead of being put into the pendulum zone)

I feel like most Chaos monsters (CED, BLS, Chaos Angel, etc) as well as Light and Darkness Dragon could do with having a dual Light/Dark attribute. Similarly, I think it would be really funny if Elemental Mistress Doriado had an attribute symbol that was 5 colors.

@Ramsey276one

3 ай бұрын

Making a RaiDar deck in Master Duel right now!

@Merilirem

3 ай бұрын

Exactly! As a chaos player since day one this has always bothered me. We have a few that have the text line but they should have all just had a second orb in the card. As for type, just all dragon knights should be dragon etc.

6:14 It gets worse. The Nordic gods are not Divine-Beasts either.

@caellanmurphy4751

3 ай бұрын

tbf the fairy typing doesnt even make sense considering in JP THE TYPE is ANGELS. and fiend IS DEMON but at least fiend is somewhat similar to a demon

@Registeel13Ty

3 ай бұрын

Well in the anime they were Divine attribute but not Divine Beast type. I think that's a small little detail I like that separates them from the Egyptian gods

@idosarts_and_krafts

3 ай бұрын

Nor are the sacred beasts

The idea of using pendulum's monster/ spell hybrid property for the megalith monsters being the ritual spells sounded cool, but then Fire King Island Turtle swept in as the best concept I've heard in months. There's another comment in this comment section suggesting the Earthbound Immortals as field spells that become monsters which I also love, it fits as a rework to their "live or die by the field spell" mechanic and depending on how it'd be done it reminds me of MTG's keyrunes, manarock artifacts that have an activated effect to turn into a creature for the turn. Also the person pointing out that Amrophage should've revolved around this is absolutely right, their core trait in lore is the amorphage is an infectious disease that mutates creatures into dragons, and we already have DNA Surgery & DNA Transplant that change types/ attributes which establishes a theme of genetics relating to a monster's type/ attribute. Basically Amorphage should've been a take on a Dragon Capture Jar strategy where you turn things into dragons then seize control of them/ shut them down with anti dragon effects (kinda like Zombie World + Balerdroch/ Vampires).

The funny thing is that hybrid monsters already exist.... in dark duel stories lol. There's a reason "cornfield coatl" is named that. "Cornfield" is the top half of the monster, "coatl" is the bottom half, but instead of getting "cornfield coatl" you could, for example, take the "light law" half of "light law medium" and stitch it onto the "coatl" half of cornfield coatl to make "light law coatl", or do the opposite and get "cornfield medium".

@caellanmurphy4751

3 ай бұрын

also multi-attributes were already a thing eg doriado and that one invoked monster

@FurnaxIkki

3 ай бұрын

Mad shout-outs to anyone who played Dark Duel Stories and made Aqua Mage Angel. Which I believe was a Fiend-attribute that was neither an Aqua, Spellcaster, or Fairy monster.

@rubberwoody

3 ай бұрын

Electrum​@@caellanmurphy4751

@jaernihiltheus7817

3 ай бұрын

@@FurnaxIkki oh, those typings were absolute nonsense. Iirc there were several fish combinations that were shit like pyro/dream or thunder/forest lol

@hasan7275

3 ай бұрын

this reminds me that i like how every illusion card so far has the battle effect and i kinda wish every type just had some weird property like that.

Im probably the only person losing my mind in nostalgia at the Spectrobes background music, holy- I havnt heard the Nessa Desert in so long man 😊

@dr_gottwald8451

3 ай бұрын

It's not just you! Took me a second but I was like "wait is that the og Spectrobes?

@shroomslayergaming2117

3 ай бұрын

Fellow Spectrobes enjoyers unite

@arcwyre2708

3 ай бұрын

I WAS GOIN CRAZY. I WAS LIKE, I SWEAR I KNOW THIS!

@codename1176

Ай бұрын

I was summoned?

I love the Shinobaron cards that are like: "You know what sucks? Spirits! You know what also sucks? Rituals... Well... Let's stick them both together and then give it something so powerful that it still kinda works..."

New type fusions in Rush Duel is cool and all BUT: 1. This means the fusions CAN'T benefit from supports of their pre-fused archetypes, unless that support card stated otherwise. (Magical Knights are warrior + spellcaster, but you can't use either warrior support or spellcaster support with it.) 2. They stopped adding fusion types after Sevens finished airing lmao. I think it is a cool idea, but with the first point I stated above, all it does is making the cards worse, so they kinda ditched that early on.

@boraaksitozgun9912

21 күн бұрын

Just print support that supports an archetype, not a type. Done. Easy fix.

@ItsPForPea

20 күн бұрын

@@boraaksitozgun9912 ^ clueless

@boraaksitozgun9912

20 күн бұрын

@@ItsPForPea yeah, I guess following the TCG would be too much for RUSH.

Rescue ACE not being Water is an unholy sin

Link/Pendulums that you can scale by summoning them directly into the pendulum zone because a link arrow points to it. Their arrows point left and right and their pendulum effects let you summon other link monsters into the backrow Crystal Beasts that are pendulums and let you pend out your backrow CBs because it's a Yugioh Crime that the monsters that become continuous spells aren't the type of card that can be either monster or continuous spell (I pitch these under every tangentially related yugioh video but they've never been more appropriate lol)

Lowkey xyz synchros that add up the combined ranks of 2+ monsters could be sick. Combinations of 2 summoning mechanics that are treated as both in the style of the pendulum stuff just makes sense considering those cards opened the door for it and we already have synchro fusion support.

@aaa1e2r3

3 ай бұрын

So like that new Raidraptor Rank Up?

@modernkiwi6447

3 ай бұрын

We already have that concept with Rising Rebellion Falcon

@monkeyismadd1825

3 ай бұрын

The most recent raid raptor rank up magic basically did this, so now would be the perfect time to make a real card mechanic for it. Raidraptor uses a spell card to add the ranks of 2+ monsters and summon a monster with the combined rank, treated as an Xyz summon. Basically using a fusion spell to synchro an Xyx

@hawkmoon5343

3 ай бұрын

@@modernkiwi6447 I forgot about the raidraptor cards, but for the sake of this thread's question I'm specifically thinking of synchro/xyz or fusion/xyz monsters that are treated as both, maybe culminating in us finally getting a fusion/synchro/xyz/pendulum z-arc.

Anime Supreme King Z-Arc would be printing some day with the mention "this card cannot be use in a duel" as the anime color egyptian gods.

DREAM MIRROR COULD HAVE BEEN YU-GI-OH'S TICKET TO DUAL-FACED CARDS! They just didn't.

2:04 With regards to Rush Duels, the weird types on some Fusions is not a conjoint type but just a whole new type. If anything it now seems detrimental because all your Dragon support does not work with your High Dragon Type Boss Monster. There's only 5 of these: Cyborg, Magical Knight, High Dragon, Celestial Warrior and Omega Psychic.

0:07 surprised it took this long for this reference 1:48 how many tri-type combinations we have? 2:03 the rush duel fusions 6:12 the wicked gods, the aesir too (the aesir synchro were even divine in anime)

@KuroeNezumi

3 ай бұрын

The tri-brigade one (beast, beast-warrior and winged-beast), the cyberpunk one (machine, cyberse, psychic), the water ones (sea serpent, fish and aqua), the "nature" one (plant, insect, reptile), and I believe nothing else RN. Closest things ideologically are the evol-types (reptile, dinosaur and dragon), and thought I believe I'm making this up I think there's a few cards that support warriors, spellcasters and a third thing at the same time? But I'd have to go digging for that.

@ianr.navahuber2195

3 ай бұрын

@@KuroeNezumi warrior-spellcaster and the trio being completed by dragon i think.

@Zetact_

3 ай бұрын

@@KuroeNezumi There's also the "Draconic" types (Dragon, Dinosaur, Sea Serpent and Wyrm) based on how they're the types that use "竜" in their Japanese type classification. It barely is supported and is I believe only on really obscure cards that were never good like Agave Dragon or Uradora of Fate.

Monsters that are also Field Spells... that sounds awesome... and would in my opinion require a Maiden of the Aqua retrain in it's first wave (because we don't have enough Umi...)

@Motleydoll123

3 ай бұрын

Honestly would not be the hardest thing to impliment if you were clever. probably give them a fun name like "World Monster" and summoning condition where you can change them from a field spell to a monster. like lets say you have a monster that is a Sleeping Dragon that has an entire city built upon it (lets call it Slumbering Fortress Dragon Collosa). when you want to summon it, you need to fulfil a condition like sending 3 cards from the field to the graveyard to awaken the Gaia monster, landing a massive summon that removes the monster from the field and instead summons it to a monster zone you control. I would have the gaia monster be pretty strong and resilient to removal, but probably have some form of downside to prevent it being too strong. like maybe a World monster could nuke your board when its first summoned, and cannot attack on the turn its summoned. however... it can block certain effects that might target your back row or other monsters before it is destroyed, or it can redirect attacks aimed at it toward the rest of your board. who knows.

Magic does a shit ton of this. Enchantment Creatures and Artifact Creatures. Stuff like Adventure Creatures that has an Instant or Sorcery stapled to a creature and so on.

@abcrx32j

3 ай бұрын

They also have creatures that can kinda act as Lands

@GreatgoatonFire

3 ай бұрын

@@abcrx32j Hell man, Dryad Arbor is a full on Land Creature with summoning sickness and everything.

@abnormal9613

3 ай бұрын

@@abcrx32jdryad arbor incident

@liamwhite3522

3 ай бұрын

And (abilities that make) Land Creatures

@fastpuppy2000

3 ай бұрын

I was going to say, maybe controversially, that Magic is the more "designed" game of the two of these considering it tries to make all of its rules consistent and purposeful so that it can do cool stuff like multi types, but YuGiOh does so much cool shit with what it does have. There is a game somewhere in the continuum between Magic and Yugioh that would be the sickest. If Konami and Wizards teamed up we could have all the fun of commander players not knowing the rules and yugioh players not reading the cards.

We kinda got one of them, Rock of the Vanquisher is technically both a monster and a Field spell for the archetype allowing for unique effects and being un-targetable by battle if Vanquish souls are on the field. there is also Simorgh bird of perfection which is counted as both Wind and Dark Attribute, unsure if this is a feature on all the Simorghs however.

It is a bit crazy that we are now 10 years into a fairly convoluted mechanic of monsters that are also spell cards, but apparently sbf be trusted with monsters with two types

Other Tri Type ideas: Dinosaur+Dragon+Wyrm=very big Lizards Fiend+Pyro+Fairy=different types of spirits in European mythology (demons, angels, and will'o'whisps) Undead+Illusion+Spellcaster=A Lich's ascension Rock+Warrior+Thunder=Bardbarians (Bard Barbarians)

I would like to mention that Raidraptors are Machine Birds that are Winged Beasts. THEY SHOULD BE MACHINES.

As a pendulum enjoyer I have been asking for trap pendulums for years. Also field traps but that's a different conversation

Dire coming in here with the most nostalgia trip bgms possible Like goddamn Spectrobes, sick

Nah, forget about dual types. Hear me out: give us Legion mechanics like in Cardfight Vanguard. I want a set of monsters that can just occupy the same monster zone. They would work together as one unit and could still be played separately if you aren't able to see both of them, but they get stat boosts and bonus effects for being played together in the same monster zone. XYZs are already aping off of Vanguard to begin with, so i don't think anyone would lose their minds. It'd just be better unions and could probably promote a more unique design space for battle phase decks. The only downside would be that it might clutter the field a bit.

Gemini are pretty much hybrids originally normal monsters, and then they become effect monsters after an additional normal summon

7:00 We actually do have this. Maiden of the Aqua treats the field as Umi while she's on the field

I swear Rush players are like Polish people. Every time their thing is mentioned they will show it to everyone and their mother, print out, put in a frame and hang it above their desk. Also missed opportunity in putting Dwayne Johnson's face onto one of Adamancipators.

Rescue ACE totally unintentionally went the Fire Force route, where they're firefighters fighting fire with literal fire

@empireyouth5791

3 ай бұрын

I’ve just always assume the fire was Mormon to represent their environment of battling Flames

Dire is like one of the greatest things to happen to the English YuGiOh community, also love when MBT gets to appear in the videos she edits.

All the salad cards being just cyberse is funny since all of them are literally on fire, and are beasts. Albaz fusions should totally have dual types since it’s literally Albaz transforming. Sword soul are all Wyrm warriors, all of them. Fuck it make some fiend Wyrms if evil. There’s so much potential, like the field spell earthbounds Ghoti have literal undead fish.

A year ago I made custom cards and created extra deck monsters that were called Vortex Monsters. They had two attributes and two types, and could be made with any two monsters that have those features (So a Fire Plant + Earth Insect, or an Earth Plant + Fire Insect could make a Vortex Fire/Earth Insect/Plant monster).

A split frame XYZ/Synchro card, which instead of being both an XYZ and a synchro is either an XYZ or a Synchro depending on if you send two monsters with levels the same as its rank or a tuner and non tuner that adds up to its level. Like a rank+level 6, which can either be made with 2 6s or a 4 and 2 star tuner etc

...how did it take this long for Dire to use the (dub) GX opening for MBT, HERO's strongest warrior?

Not exactly related to the video but I appreciate the use of Spectrobes music in the background.

Note all red dragon archfiends count as archfiend monsters

Ok these new thumbnails are a banger. They're already helping the video do numbers. Good job.

that thumbnail is an absolute masterpiece

Extremely unrelated but I HIGHLY appreciate the Spectrobes OST in the background at the start.

I always thought a new type of backrow would be pretty neat. What it would be exactly I'm not sure. One of my ideas was something like a pendulum trap monster like mentioned in the video that you could set in the pendulum zones which could potentially open the door to other kinds of cards (e.g., quick-play pendulum monsters to set, equip effects?, etc.). Or Konami could throw us a real curveball and print Field Traps.

I've also though of Field Monsters for a while. The monster I created "Magnum Opus - My Beloved" for a custom archtype that never left the drawing room is one such monster.

@RadiantAeon

3 ай бұрын

I had a similar idea for a Custom Archeype too "Air Raider Sky Base - Al Sancturia" since the theme was various fighter air crafts, and the boss functioned as big hitter and their base.

@ArcheTelos

3 ай бұрын

For a long time I've entertained the idea of a Synchro that goes to the field zone and spawns tokens from there

@nellewoodruff6337

3 ай бұрын

I wish Konami would do more card contests. I've wanted to submit my "Cosmet-naut" archetype for actual years now

The monsters as field spells idea is so cool I need it

This was a great Twitter Thread. I honestly kinda love ones that are people theorycrafting different development ideas. Even if they end up sucking, you can normally find an interesting idea or two in there. The Arcana Force one, for example. That's an interesting concept for a series of retrains for them.

The field spell/monster hybrid could actually be a great retrain for the Castle of Dark illusions! Like...why was that card not a FS in the first place!? Imo it should actually come with a whole retrain for PaniK's monsters as well "King of Yamimakai" as the boss monster (this card should have gotten some support by now outside of that one random D/D/D spell card where he is mentioned). You could even use that archetype to go deeper into the hybrid-types. Making the retrains treated as both Illusion and Fiend type monsters or change type on wether Castle is used as a fieldspell or a monster making them "real fiends" when the card itself is a monster or Illusions when it's used as a field spell But tbh, i just want a PaniK retrain/archetype cause his duel was iconic for the early days of the YGO anime

The nearest we have to this concept are the Chaos Monster which explicitly state "this card's attribute is also LIGHT/DARK" and nothing else. But even with that, Konami does it half-hearted.

Totally onboard with the Wyrm=Dragon guy, it would be extremely funny when all the wyrm stuff does absolutely nothing in the current format despite the fact that they came up with wyrms cause they deemed the cards would be too broken of they were compatible with the existing dragon support.

@fryenchill2817

3 ай бұрын

Mo Ye reveal Lubellion would be insane though

Damn that rescue ace take is so real. Never crossed my mind.

Magic once literally did a mass type errata where they gave every creature a race and most a class. It also included some rules about creatures with a type in their name automatically gaining that type unless there was an obvious reason not to. Eg. Dragon tamer is not a dragon. This resulted in some fun things like the card skeleton archer finally becoming a skeleton archer

It's strange because I see type and attribute as the natural remedy to the duel type question, being that any monster can have any combination of the two

The only thing I can think of in considering the Adamancipator discrepancy is they didn't want to specify between a Rock and Spellcaster specific effects so they just called everything in it a rock

I saw the Twitter thread too late, but the Sky Scourge cards seemed like they were moving towards a hybrid direction since they wanted a deck using Dark Fiends or Light Fairies.

The field zone monster is a great idea. Better than my pet innovation, aoe spells and traps with arrows on the card. A yugioh Commander of sorts would probably have unique drawbacks for each card based on its power. Destroy an island turtle, everyone sinks, for example. Some might lose you a chunk of lifepoints or chunks of your field or deck, others may be an automatic loss under certain conditions.

when compared to pokemon types or mtg colors, hybrid cards would be related to a deck building restriction rather than just a stat line on cards. when I think of hybrid cards in yugioh I think of cards that are explicitly part of several archetypes at once like the dogmatika albaz cards or the raid raptor phantom knight cards. So they have done some of this, but it's more complicated because while mtg has 5 colors yugiohs color pie includes things like "marincess" and "fluffel"

"Why not make monsters field spells?" Gravekeeper players sweating intensely as they look at Gravekeeper's Priestess

reminded of the time my buddy put link arrows on a pendulum monster so it could be a link-pendulum.

Why has no one mentioned Vaylantz. It’s literally the Water vs Fire Field Spell Pend deck. It also has a random standalone earth guy, where are the others?

@ScionStorm1

3 ай бұрын

Still waiting for the missing EARTH Prankids fusion.

The idea of monsters being field spells was actually shown in Yugioh in deulest kingdom

And suddenly I remember way back then a new set was teased (by I think a magazine) that claimed they would introduce dual types in it because they just plain forgot that Beast-Warrior was a thing and misread it.

If they made wyrms into dragons, that would mean you could use the Ib combo to get World legacy guard dragon, then literally search Master peace(brotaur, eclipse wyvern etcetc.) and immediatly tribute it turn 1with spell and monster immunity. There are even more way to do that for example cupid pitch combo or small world or thrust etc.

Man I didn't expect the Jashin to get a mention. Ti's appreciated

Oh cool, biblically accurate MBT. Not sure that was something I was ready to see.

There are a few multi-attribute cards, like Dark Simorgh and LaDD, but nothing that just says "This card is also always a *** type".

@ScionStorm1

3 ай бұрын

The anime versions of Ape Fighter and Ape Mage were also treated as Warrior and Spellcaster in 5Ds.

I feel bad for missing this thread, I would've gone into a whole string of posts about Trap Monsters.

awesome video and also shoutouts to dire for the spectrobes music

I have often thought it is weird that monsters have been able to have multiple attributes (though only through effects) ever since Elemental Mistress Doriado was printed in 2005, but there has never been a way for a monster to have multiple types. Except in the anime, as the commenter in the video who brought up TGs mentioned. But none of those effects made it into paper.

I had a dream when I was kid, shortly after Union monsters came out, that Konami *did* make monsters that were also field spells. Im my dream they were called California monsters, which was pretty weird. But here I am, over two decades later, still thinking it was actually a really good idea that my 10-year-old brain came up with

0:59~1:11 In regards to Rivalry of Warlords, I would like to think that it would check if a monster had the chosen Type instead of if they had a Type other than the one that was cho- 3:45~3:54 ... Oh... I honestly forgot that cards that let monsters have multiple Attributes/Types at once existed. So I looked up the rulings of Gozen Match right after you brought it up, and... yeah, I was just straight-up wrong. Rivalry of Warlords and Gozen Match do indeed check if the monster has a Type/Attribute respectively that's different from the chosen Type/Attribute. 2:23~2:27 I also want this. And not just this, I want literally every possible Extra Deck hybrid combination (both the Pendulum and non-Pendulum variants), *including Links!!* 3:55~4:00 I'm pretty sure a Trap counterpart to Pendulum would be more than just a color swapped border. It should at least say "Pendulum Trap" on the Type list instead of just "Pendulum". 'Cause here's the thing: colorblindness exists. There can, and probably will, be people who would not be able to tell the difference unless it was stated in text purely because they can't see the colors.

I had an idea for monsters that were robot animals that counted as both machine and Beast monsters so that all the Beast and machine support cards work with them

I'd settle for an effect that reads you can treat this monster as a plant and only give it to certain rose dragons

"Chaos" Monster should've been Dark/Light attribute, that is literally what the concept of chaos monsters are. But at the same time making Chaos monsters both attributes wouldve absolutely made them even more format warping then they already were

@empireyouth5791

3 ай бұрын

No I disagreed, I think some chaos monsters should definitely be light and dark but it’s clear some chaos monsters are more designed after one attribute them both. Like there is nothing light about chaos sorcerer, Basically I’m saying yes but not all

@Merilirem

3 ай бұрын

@@empireyouth5791 You are just judging them on looks at that point. Chaos sorcerer is a sorcerer with both attributes of magic.

@empireyouth5791

3 ай бұрын

@@Merilirem “ You are just judging them on looks” I feel like this comes with the territory of figuring out what attribute some thing is Also I feel a monstrous type should be dependent on simply morn then what they can use, Dark magician for example has used light looking Attacks in his spell cards he is on Ace rescue aces Fire type is meant to illustrate the environment they are perpetually in not that they have fire power besides if chaos sorcerer is light and dark it would act as a horrible counterpart to lightray sorcerer his light counterpart unless Konami also make a pure dark version to complete this set

I find dual archetype cards to be the best way for YGO to do this while also adding to the flavor of the archetype. Like Girsu the Orcust Mekk Knight being of both archetypes and having effects that mirror them. Or the Kashtira corrupted Tearlaments Kashtira and Scareclaw Kashtira. Is kinda of a shame that some of the earlier ones (gishki chain or daigusto emerald) that are technically part of two factions in lore didnt get the hybrid treatment

Rescue-ace is based on a tokusatsu series tomica hero:rescue force where they deals with "super disasters" and fight the evil causing them. So the basically fight fire with fire.

Hybrid monsters already exist, they're things like Shaddoll Zefracore that belong to two separate archetypes.

@velphidrow8317

3 ай бұрын

Elemental NecROID Shaman

Hybrid Monster & Elemental types? Pretty easy to demonstrate and doesn't take up too much text space. I feel like keyword or rules-text counters would be a helpful design space to support dual-typing without needing as much 'effect text' on cards. eg: "If this was special summoned, put an Aqua and Water counters on this."

Slifer was specifically also a dragon type and Z-Arc in the anime was literally a rainbow of all the card types (at the time)

@some2043

3 ай бұрын

all card types that can inhabit the extra deck you are right we need a zarc rotual retrain

The one with monsters being field spells is pretty cool

Cyber Dragons immediately come to mind as a Machine/Cyberse archetype that would work super well as a hybrid typing.

@empireyouth5791

3 ай бұрын

I am happy to see someone saying this instead of saying some thing like “ cyber dragon should be dragons” even though they aren’t biological dragons and are clearly just built in their shape

@TheRoseReaper

3 ай бұрын

@@empireyouth5791I mean they are computers first dragons second.

Imagine if Thunder Dragons were both thunder and dragons

I think predaplant fusions should be both plant and dragons so that their weird off brand venemy could work with them and raidraptors should also be machines

3:01 Nonono, he was a wolf that turned into a Dragon chimera.

7:05 Icejade Ran Aegirine makes itself their field spell.

4:30 Fight fire with fire, duh. Also, a reprint of the dark gods that are divine divine-beasts would make them almost playable. They really need some support by now.

We have Dream Mirror boss monsters. They're Light AND Dark. It'd be nice if they counted for double in chaos monster cost requirements

@Merilirem

3 ай бұрын

Dream mirror could have been so awesome if it was made to be more chaotic.

3:55 - thanks, I always wanted to know Yu-Gi-Oh for "how does Banding work?".

Suggestion: Card text interpretation that might matter in the future. The difference, for example, between: Every monster your opponent controls and each monster on your opponents side of the field might be relevant in the future

An idea for one of these threads would be Alternate Artwork Ideas. Quarter centuary Chronicle is set to give us a bunch of classic cards with alternate artworks. Raigeki coming from Slifer, Harpie Lady using Feather Duster, ROTA featuring Raye, etc. What would be some ideas you all would like to see for legacy cards getting new artworks. >Personally, I would like to see a Change of Heart Alt Art with Bakura or show Dark Necrofear corrupting the person from CoH.

Dark and light is a good combo for a duel atribute cards as a chaos element

I approve of the background music being the Nessa theme from Spectrobes.

6:59 The Triamid field spells should've been monsters that could treat themselves as field spells. I mean, Cruiser and especially Kingolem already look like monsters to begin with.

Oh shoot, Spectrobes! I was wondering why the music sounded familiar

Wait, Spectrob ost? Idk who put the music in this video but I love you

Rescue ace is fire because you "Fight Fire With Fire!"

7:18 Sound reasoning. 10/10

Honestly, I think Yu-Gi-Oh kind of already has an equivalent to this: cards that belong to more than one archetype. I think that part of cards like Tearlaments Kashtira is very cool.