I've been a pianist for over 35 years and have played professionally since I was 12. I tell people, "owning a Steinway doesn't make you a concert pianist. You need to learn and PRACTICE. " I find that phrase comes in handy across the board, lol.

@ThatTattooShow

Жыл бұрын

Very true. I always thought when I was learning guitar that I’d be so much better if I only had a Les Paul like Ace Frehley of Kiss. By the time I could afford one I could play just as well on a cardboard box with rubber bands on it! It’s all about practice, practice, practice - p

@lizjoe21750

Жыл бұрын

@@ThatTattooShow I love that we're on the same page and appreciate all the content you share!

I picked up a lightly used Andy Seb coil liner on eBay, and a new Mickey Sharpz brass hybrid for under $600. No regrets. They could easily outlive me and are solid workhorses.

I use coils from different builders but the rotary works suggestion for a beginner is perfect; Affordable and easily repaired- replacement motors for £10, discount refurbished machines available directly from them and they’re customer service is so quick!

Hey my friends..how are ya?? I've been tattooing since I was 15..I'm 40 now..I think getting just a decent beginner kit..and focus on your drawing /tracing .. getting your lines solid with color..when u switch to a real human..the biggest problem I had was the body is not flat like the table..needle depth is so so important..keeping ur hand at the same depth as you bend around an arm or something..it was tough learning all this..I ABSOFUKINLUTLY love tattoos

@AndrewHohn

Ай бұрын

Go for it and any news

Old mate was absolutely on point. Beginners will benefit from a humble beginning.

I remember when we got a thermofax, it was $3500. There werent any printers for stencils back then. I 100% agree with you guys. The starter kits for the most part are not good for the professionals but is a great start for learning all the things beside laying down a line. Even then you can get the concept and see if you really have it. Alot of people think they would be awesome at it because they can draw. Simply not true, there are alot of skills involved. Someone who is good at woodwork and can paint might be better. Theres other skills invoved. So to avoid wasting money start off like they are saying. Over the years i have traded tattoos for tons of high end equipment because they bought it and realized they just disnt have it.

Great video guys! Thanks, really helpful and straightforward 👍🏻

Woo hooooo… the Micky Sharps hybrid.. my first machine to.. I used it so much that 1 day, mid tattoo and in process of changing a needle, the threading on the thumb screw went.. 😬 went to a tool shop, bought a similar screw spent 10min force screwing it in to re-threaded it.. and continued the tattoo.. I make Paul right on learning to hand draw stencils.. a good skill to have.. good line practise to Any news on the Acus machine yet.. ? Just interested to hear your views Stay safe

Rotary work definitely one of best out there for the price with traditional needles.. For carts I would say Mast (mast saber for wireless) Those brands as entry level in my opinion best.. great show as always on Saturday morning..

Thank you! I’ve been looking for a video that says it’s ok to get a cheaper machine for practice

I laughed so hard when he said you don't need to go out and buy a private stock prs to learn guitar. I am currently in the prs manufacturing plant working while listening to this. The irony lol

@ThatTattooShow

27 күн бұрын

I actually did a few adverts for PRS back in the day. Beautiful guitars, but overkill for beginners. But if there's one going for me... !

I still use coils for linework and traditional dank kubin dmcv2 and Seth cifferi and hatchback coils all day I just can't line properly with a rotary unless it's a sidewinder

After this video I chipped in on works rotary and it’s really smooth machine (I got slimliner)

i’ve been practicing tattoo at home for maybe 6 months and ik ik i shouldn’t do tattoos on real skin but i have almost a full leg of tattoos i’ve done on myself and ive recently started giving my family tattoos i don’t use cheap ink and i unfortunately don’t use the best needles (moneys tight) there’s 1 tattoo shop where i live and they don’t do apprenticeships so idk what to do till i maybe get enough money to move away im gonna continue my at home tattoo career 😭

i've been an illustrator for as long as i can remember, and since i do colour on digital, i do my inks with a sharpie on regular ass paper, still to this day haha. as long as it doesn't break apart while you're using it, any tool is good for a beginner.

Thankyou this was very helpful :))

Great show , especially for a beginner as myself.

This was a very useful video for an aspiring tattooist to watch. Thanks fellas.

@ThatTattooShow

3 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Thank you for that. What about the space between practice skin and professional tattooing. Shouldn’t I practice on myself?

@ThatTattooShow

10 ай бұрын

Yes you can. I’ll explain on next weeks show - p 👍

I saw the thumbnail and thought you were gonna say don't buy a shitty machine or starter kit off amazon haha. I'm pleasantly surprised. I got a stigma starter kit for like 90 quid and only been going a week its great tbh I'm loving it! I've done myself a few times, I know I shouldn't I was just too excited. Lucasz will have to fix them up for me lmfao. Thanks for your show

@eabeloth7035

Жыл бұрын

Can you be so kind to tell me which you have gotten yourself. I wish to get one myself for tattooing my friends.

@cassanateli

Жыл бұрын

@@eabeloth7035 I’m looking at the Dragonhawk rotary kit

You had me at squire lol. I mod guitars. 😂 a new player doesnt need anything more. Well said

Great fucking chat. Normally just skim through these type of videos to see recommendation but watched the whole way through. Solid advice.

I love that you have a realistic take on what’s necessary. However there is a sweet spot for Equiptment where price meets quality. However I’ll never buy cheap ink.

@ThatTattooShow

Жыл бұрын

That is true. A lot of smaller company’s are able to hit that sweet spot because they have less over heads etc. if you look at the larger brands they have more and better engineers developing machines compared to a one man team, so instantly that causes a price increase for the one compared to the other.

@vincentmerkow6289

Жыл бұрын

My first machine I went too cheap. I got lucky that it’s not useless but it’s a dedicated liner. And that was fine because in the beginning that’s all I was doing. But I’ve picked up a couple more that can do shading and lining and push big mags. Having the crap machine was a positive experience because I can appreciate a nicer machine now. It’s hard in the beginning because there are very few people with experience that are willing to give quality advice. And even more that are just equipment snobs.

Like the new setup! If you don't mind me asking, what camera's are you guys using? Looks crispy af! Thanks guys!

@ThatTattooShow

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. Paul uses a canon eos rp, Chris uses a Sony a7s3

@Infinitesyndicate.

Жыл бұрын

@@ThatTattooShow 🙏

@ThatTattooShow

Жыл бұрын

Lens wise we have a few different ones.

I’m in SoCal you should see how people look down on certain brands

any thoughts on wireless tattoo machines and which ones would you recommend for beginners?

@ThatTattooShow

11 ай бұрын

We have many review videos on wireless tattoo machines. Have a look and you should be able to make an educated decision based on those.

Hey guys I'm a 3rd year apprentice in Australia I been using a fk irons direct 2 for my first machine but am wanting to get into a pen machine and I can't really afford paying the price for a good wireless machine and am wondering what a good pen machine would be to get? 😊

@ThatTattooShow

Жыл бұрын

What’s your budget?

I learned on a spirit, my mentor was sold on cheyenne. I got it out recently and worked on a client with it... it runs so smooth no vibration but i can't for the life of me appreciate working with a cord.... i do keep it and my thunder as back ups. Still can't get used to the unio the vibration kills my wrist. My wands and exo are my go to

Have either of you guys used or reviewed vlad blads coils or rotaries or pens?

@ThatTattooShow

5 ай бұрын

No, we did reach out to them but…

I have a Dave Diamond frame!!

The only counter i will offer is that im learning at the moment and purchased a £200 machine from Amazon, within a few weeks the motor failed , purchased another chinese machine about £150, the cam fell apart and ended up shorting the motor. So what im saying is reliability also comes into it so buying above chinese grade and lower end pro models may pay dividends in the longer run.

@ThatTattooShow

Жыл бұрын

Very true. Quality and cost have to be considered and balanced. Thanks for the comment 👍

@erikvadasz7435

Жыл бұрын

Brother if you need help for this let me know. I got a channel where it shows you ur options or msgs me here. These lads are full of it. Trust me

@erikvadasz7435

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but a Cheyenne which only uses Cheyenne needles which are the most expensive on the market spend roughly 1600 quid on two machines with no explanation to what it does great job lads .... 😂

Any recommendations for affordable (under $500) wireless rotaries? I guess you can use a wireless battery pack on the spirit, but wouldn’t the weight and angle be off?

@ThatTattooShow

Жыл бұрын

Simple answer would be no. If you want a decent wireless machine then you need to invest in one. A lot of the cheaper ones the battery doesn’t provide a decent amount of power so it’s not worth it. You can use a battery on the spirit but yes the balance will be off.

@mattivirta

5 ай бұрын

good start machine wireles can buy today less than 100$ better start learn cheap 50$ machine and buy better pen later.

Buy a cheap kit to learn learn learn then when you are rready buy professional, skin is precious canvas blacking out isn't always the solution love this topic cheers Paul .

"Smashing into a bit of latex" 🤣🤣🤣

i have a question. i was given a whole bunch of cheyenne carts by a professional artists to learn tattooing at home with skin. can i use them multiple times over a week or so when cleaning them in the water cup? or should i use a new one everytime?

@ThatTattooShow

Жыл бұрын

Needles are always single use when using them on skin.

@robinocap

Жыл бұрын

@@ThatTattooShow on skin for sure, i’m very aware of that and i collected a lot of knowledge about tattooing that i need to transform into experience. i was talking about fake skin, sorry for not mentioning.

@ThatTattooShow

Жыл бұрын

Ahhh yeah if tattooing on fake skin I’d probably still change them just cause the needles will become blunt.

@robinocap

Жыл бұрын

@@ThatTattooShow tysm, will do

I’m an apprentice and understand where I stand which is just common sense. People wanting to go all out is the same as buying a super car for your first car.. makes no sense

Well I was planning on dropping 1K on equipment including all of the ppe and cleaning equipment etc to practice on silicone, maybe I should buy a cheap kit to practice with instead lol

@mattivirta

5 ай бұрын

first tattoo machine whit equipments not cost more than about 200-300$ waste lot money if buy 1000$ all stuff. good machine start learn cost less than 100$ all little stuff not cost lot.

Thats what I've done is learned to hand stencil first and learned with cheaper coil machines of course that was years ago but I've upgraded to pro equipment over time. I still use only coil machines. Im not a big fan of the pens.

Where in the uk are you guys based? Ive just stumbled onto this video and ive listened for all of five minutes and i just want to come and get tattooed by you (im currently based in australia btw) just for a chat. But also I love tattoos etc. Im guessing you're based in Wales but.. yeah. HI 👋

@ThatTattooShow

Жыл бұрын

Hi! Chris is based in Wales and I'm based in England. It's a long way for a chat but you'll always be welcome! - p

Thank you for the truth. I was going to buy a really expensive machine.

What do you think about Cheyenne pen , is good or not?

@ThatTattooShow

Жыл бұрын

Which one?

After almost 30 years of working as a professional illustrator and graphic designer, I've deciding to become a tattoo artist. I've watched KZread vids for a month now and invested in a lot of recommended equipment as I didn't want to learn by using inferior garbage. Sure wish I found this video before making some of those purchases.

@cassanateli

Жыл бұрын

Ok

@EveLuna23

Жыл бұрын

Hey, I just read your comment and I am kind of in the same boat. I am a graphic designer/illustrator who wants to become a tattoo artist. Would love to hear how your career is going. Are you a tattoo artist now? Was the switch hard to make?

@darkstormy1369

Жыл бұрын

@@EveLuna23 Unfortunately, my journey has been exceedingly difficult. I've been told by a shop owner that no shop is going to apprentice anyone my age (or gender as apparently many shops favor women), no matter how good of an artist I am, or how much prior professional experience I have. It was also explained to me that even if I were to find a mentor, there is no way any aspiring tattoo artist can reasonably expect to make a livable wage in under two years time without establishing a large client base. It would seem my only recourse is to be self-taught - which the whole industry looks down upon - and risk the liability of building a client base completely on my own. It's been pretty demoralizing, but I will still forge ahead. Many others have succeeded in the past as self-taught artists, so there is no reason why I can't do it too. Sorry, I don't have a more optimistic answer for you.

@EveLuna23

Жыл бұрын

@@darkstormy1369 So sorry to hear that, for you and me both. I wish it was easier. Ty for your time though. I really hope you make it.

@Bb186fo

Жыл бұрын

​@@darkstormy1369 if you don't mind me asking, how old are you? I just turned 33 and man I eat sleep and breath tattooing. Obsessed with the history, the people, im drawing/painting every day, getting work done myself, looking into machines and learning them (haven't bought them yet as I want a good machine to start not a "beginner" one). I'm kicking myself for not finding this love for tattooing 10-15 years ago but can't do anything about that lol Anyways, this age aspect is def a bit deflating but as you said that isn't changing how I feel either about wanting to still do it. I do have a child and yeah it's a bit tough planning to apprentice for a few years for minimal to no pay with kids and bills. Also not wanting to cut corners and doing it solid. I've wanted to bring this stuff up with my artist and prob still will, but I don't want to come off like "well you must just not really want it" or "yeah maybe you just aren't cut out for it". At the end of the day you don't really need anyone's "permission" but at the same time it sure helps the learning curve having some mentors and help along the way. Not to mention a legit shop to work out of to build customers. Hope it works out for you! Im gna keep chugging along myself and make this stuff happen.

The best guitar pock is the black Jazz III

@ThatTattooShow

Жыл бұрын

I’m currently using the jazz style picks but the slightly bigger ones with tortex Might be the jazz III?

Didn’t really understand the point, You said don’t waste your money buying expensive equipment, which I totally agree with, however in the next breath advised buying a new older professional machine! Surely it would be better to say buy the best your budget can afford. I have recently just bought a nearly new second hand bishop wand packer, for less than it would cost to buy essentially a new 10 year old Cheyenne machine. Don’t get me wrong I understand your concept and I think the channel is great, keep up the good work.

@ThatTattooShow

Жыл бұрын

Well if you look at it like this. A cheap machine that isn’t the best of quality you can be looking at around £150 a£250 on Amazon. A Cheyenne spirit motor body is about £230 so in that respect it would be better to buy that machine as we know it will work and last. So you aren’t wasting your money buying expensive equipment when other machines cosy up to £1000. There are multiple options out there for people.

@fatboynobby

Жыл бұрын

@@ThatTattooShow Fair point , I didn’t realise a Cheyenne was actually that cheap. Maybe you could do a show on “how to make your own starter kit” Advice on what power supply, inks, needles , fake skin etc; that is built on a budget. Just a thought 😉

@ThatTattooShow

Жыл бұрын

We are working on that :) Yeah the spirit motor body is cheap to be fair. It’s a really good entry level machine as it’s great quality

I think alot of people forget just because something is cheap doesnt mean its crap, my first guitar was $50 nzd which would would be 25 pounds and it actually was a great sounding guitar. Just like how exspensive things can be total trash, i find big brands sometimes get lazy with quality, and the latest thing just isnt as good as the previous (again i say only sometimes)

@ThatTattooShow

6 ай бұрын

Exactly. Where it’s made and what it costs doesn’t (always) translate into an assurance of quality or the lack of it.

@classtilton871

6 ай бұрын

@@ThatTattooShow just picked up a tour mast pro for $350 nzd today, so far very pleased with it

There's a 50 dollar bishop packer knock off that is as good if not better . I suggest that 1before they figure out what they have. I do suggest a half way decent machine because what happened to me. I got cheap crap equipment and it discouraged me so much every time I gave up but as soon as I had that decent machine it was like night and day . I do get what your saying for sure don't go out and buy a 600 dollar tattoo machine if you don't know if you want to go the distance and do this for a living. But something half way decent you definitely need . If they are spending 40 bucks on a tattoo machine with ink and a power supply needles the works they are going to have a hard time learning

@Richiebones

7 ай бұрын

I really suggest this machine to even professional artist cause it on par with the biship packer .

A real artist who knows what he’s doing will not run out and buy all the bs straight away, that’s for hobbyists who will be over it in a month

Smashing into a bit of latex 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Want a decent Coil machine to practice with..traditional style..Not a cheap crap one.. but..good ones cost waayyy too much $$$ im not rich... where to start ?

@ThatTattooShow

Жыл бұрын

Mickey Sharps dial liner or a hybrid would be my suggestion. Bulletproof proven machines, no nonsense prices. p

@mattivirta

5 ай бұрын

cheap 10-50$ chinese coil machine can start cheap and working well, but better invest lot better rotate pen machine less than 100$ can buy many good machine what have lot better than any old shit coil guns ewer.

I live in the USA, in Virginia and I was wondering if I need a license in order to practice on fake skins at home. If anyone has any info I would totally appreciate the input

@ThatTattooShow

Жыл бұрын

Contact your local health authority and they can advise you.

Cheyenne Thunder does everything

@ThatTattooShow

Жыл бұрын

It can’t drive a car…. Jokes aside it is a great machine and pairs very well with the spirit. Those two machines you can create some great tattoos with.. chris

My first machine was made with Lego :D, and tell you wat that tat's never ever gonna get covered up NEVER!

And if I'm Artist already and I want to practice tattooing professional? I mentioning here that I'm not Brit ? Same advice Maybe?

@ThatTattooShow

9 ай бұрын

You would need to check the laws where you are, some places it is illegal to tattoo people when unlicensed.

The best advice on a new machine - Do you want it to last longer than your apprenticeship / Self taught in your kitchen phase? Spend the cash.

Here… have another comment 😉

holla dear i from Mauritius island 🏝 🇲🇺

@ThatTattooShow

9 ай бұрын

Hello 😊

....cuz they tattoo "real people who have to wear the tattoo forever"

You don't need to but you can lol.

I feel like before you invest in a new machine invest into a better quality power supply

@ThatTattooShow

Жыл бұрын

Good shout that is.

My father is almost 40 years a tattoo artist,and he told me,that you can make a good tattoo with any machine.It all depends on the hands of the artist.Tattoo industry has become too greedy.Your channel is that way,too.If you didn't understand what I WROTE,don't read.

@ThatTattooShow

Жыл бұрын

Yo bostjan… it’s been a while. While I agree with what you are saying. Not all machines are made equally and as I always stress on the channel, better quality built machines will make you faster and more efficient as an artist. Also more reliable machines will break down less etc. So while I totally agree that it does depend on the hands of the tattoo artist. A good quality built machines will always trump a low quality built machine. I would also like to add that the trail of thought your father has lies mostly with could machines as they are all basically the same. It’s not the same trail of though with rotary machines. Also there are multiple factors as to why machines from certain company’s cost so much these days. Hopefully you understand what I mean. As for the comment which implies we are greedy, this channel has cost us a lot of money to produce and still does. Money for the most part that comes out of our own pockets so people like yourself can have readily available information for free. I’ll be quite honest with you also, I don’t think you fully understand what you wrote as you are just regurgitating something your father has told you. You lack the knowledge and experience to make a fully formed opinion of your own, I’m not being rude by saying this just stating what the facts are.

@brandonsmith3782

Жыл бұрын

@@ThatTattooShow Even when it comes to coil machines, they are all not created equal, at all. A cheap chinese machine cannot laydown a line like something like a Time machine or Pulse. Really they cant even stand up to a Technical Tattoo Supply branded machine. I may not have 40 years experience but i do have over 20. Maybe the comment about the 40 year experience saying basically that ther all equal comes from the older era. Alot simpler designs and style. When i came into it "New School" was a new style, which paved the way to basically where we are now.

@ThatTattooShow

Жыл бұрын

That I totally agree with. I was using coils as an example because they all essentially have the same build i.e. wound coils, armature bars and springs etc which is why someone could think they are are the same. But you have the same trail of thought as myself.

@brandonsmith3782

Жыл бұрын

@@ThatTattooShow 😉 knew exactly what you were saying. People dont realize how much metalergy goes into a machine and also how it was done. Especially the coils themselves. Set up spacing, spring weight. I wish everyone coming into it now had to start where we did. Making needles from scratch, setting up machines and tuning them. Theres so much that they have no clue that its even a thing. Now days they just buy a rotory pen and think thats it. Most people that really know coil machines cant completely give them up. I finally got a rotory several years ago now but i still line with a coil machine. They are a completely different creature and they are all different.

@ThatTattooShow

Жыл бұрын

Bang on, with rotaries it’s a whole different thing as well. Not all motors are equal, they are all tuned to the specs of the companies who in some cases pay engineers to work of the design and manufacturing of them. Some do far more stringent testing than others. Then there’s where they are made, if made in Europe labour costs are more expensive than if they are made in China and assembled in Europe etc. It’s never as simple as what people think.

the most annoying thing someone can do is the "yeaaaaa" in somewhat disagreement

This is a product of fake skin brother - NOT - youtube - love you guys from FL

i used first coil gun but today after 7 year tattoo work, i fight all old coil guns to trash (about 7000$) because new pen guns have lot lot better use, and i need say have lot better start learn tattoo pen machine not ewer use old coil machine. old coil guns have totally wrong and worst machine start learn how tattoo good.

If anyone is looking for a good cheaper machine look into ambition machines

@ThatTattooShow

Жыл бұрын

Cheaper yes, good debatable. Copyright infringement possibly. If you like the shape of a bishop Wand then get a bishop wand not a copy of a bishop wand.

That vegan hatred 😂

Brother give me a tattoo machine I have been asking for a long time I have given many gifts.

@ThatTattooShow

Жыл бұрын

That’s not how it works sadly. You can’t just ask us for a machine, it’s not fair on everyone else. Each person will have the same opportunity to win a tattoo machine when we do the giveaways. Also each person will have to be working in a registered tattoo studio. So either an apprentice or tattoo artist. If you don’t meet the minimum criteria, you can’t enter.

@finemietattoo458

Жыл бұрын

If you need a wireless tattoo machine, you can contact me. I can give it to you for free.

No tattoo equipment? No firearms??? SCREW THAT!!!!!

@ThatTattooShow

Жыл бұрын

Huh??

You repeat yourselves way too much. The guy w dreads has dementia or something lmao 12:15 when the yapping ends

@ThatTattooShow

8 ай бұрын

No, I don’t have dementia. No, I don’t have dementia.

Stop interrupting the man.

@ThatTattooShow

Жыл бұрын

No can do

why guy in glasses is constantly interrupting ? proper annoying

@ThatTattooShow

Жыл бұрын

It’s called a conversation. Why type with poor grammar? It’s proper annoying

@gregorypanasiuk1521

Жыл бұрын

@@ThatTattooShow English is not my first language... just let him finish talking bro you guys are good togheter but please let each other finish the sentence

@ThatTattooShow

Жыл бұрын

I’m joking I get that. Dude it’s how we converse, we have been mates for 10 years and alway talk over each other. It’s just how we are. Asking us to change who we are changes the dynamic of the channel and the conversation we have. Hope that makes sense? Have a great day.

@gregorypanasiuk1521

Жыл бұрын

@@ThatTattooShow it does. you too brother

each week: white man with ratty dreads cuts off his "friend" and mansplains what "they" are talking about.

@ThatTattooShow

Жыл бұрын

Each week: some know-it-all attempts to get offended at how two friends have conversations whilst throwing insults for no apparent reason. Thank for your (pointless) contribution you fucking idiot.

@donovanlankford2089

Жыл бұрын

The fuck are you talking about?

That guy interrupted so many times! For the love of god shut up sometimes

@ThatTattooShow

4 ай бұрын

How about no. That’s just how we talk.