You're WRONG About The Scarlet Spider

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The Scarlet Spider is easily one of the most popular alternate takes on Spider-Man, and he's most often identified by his classic blue hoodie!
But did you know that Ben Reilly actually hated being the Scarlet Spider back in the day? Find out more about him and Kaine Parker's take on the mantle in today's look at the legacy of the infamous Spider-Man Clone Saga!
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  • @louthegiantcookie
    @louthegiantcookie6 ай бұрын

    What this tells me is that people in the Marvel Universe have terrible taste. 'The Scarlet Spider' is a cool name! How can they not see that?!

  • @JustAnotherJames3
    @JustAnotherJames36 ай бұрын

    I personally prefer Ben as the Scarlet Spider, but mainly because I think it's distinct, love the hoodie look, and that a story of Ben's journey into reclaiming it - taking something about himself he's hated and been shackled with and spinning it into his own - would be incredibly cool. But I also 100% see your point about letting him be Spider-Man. Especially after all this Chasm shit.

  • @yubek2746
    @yubek27466 ай бұрын

    It genuinely warms my heart to see somebody make an appreciation video about my favorite Spider-man. Spider-Man has been a part of my life since I was 2 years old, and is my actual hero (as corny as that may sound). Ben himself has always had a special place in my heart. Showed me as a kid that it doesn't take Peter Parker to be Spider-man. To be a hero. ❤

  • @SynthVoice

    @SynthVoice

    6 ай бұрын

    I was in the same boat as a kid, and Ben Reilly deserves all the love!

  • @InReserveProductions
    @InReserveProductions6 ай бұрын

    Just give me a Ben and Kaine buddy cop team up book, Scarlet Spiders it's simple.

  • @SynthVoice

    @SynthVoice

    6 ай бұрын

    We had that from Peter David, and unfortunately it was kinda... Meh.

  • @InReserveProductions

    @InReserveProductions

    6 ай бұрын

    @@SynthVoice I mean give someone a real shot at it, like JMS, Dan Jurgens or JMD.

  • @TheLastSpider-Man
    @TheLastSpider-Man6 ай бұрын

    I'd love to see a series that establishes a "Spider-Family", like Batman's Bat Family. Peter, Miles, Ben, Kaine, and Mayday would be such a fun group to see

  • @Stickfigure-ly7gf
    @Stickfigure-ly7gf6 ай бұрын

    Ben Reilly: Man, that was heart touching... Kaine Parker: Definitely!

  • @cheesyserenity
    @cheesyserenity6 ай бұрын

    Lobotomies!!!!!!! WOOO (Ben Reilly ❤❤)

  • @SynthVoice

    @SynthVoice

    6 ай бұрын

    Here at the Synth Voice Network we LOVE our lobotomies ^^

  • @Dhampir101980
    @Dhampir1019806 ай бұрын

    Question for you,Synth: If Marvel returned Ben to a purely heroic state/ frame of mind, but gave him a brand new superhero name other than “ Spider-Man “, would that make you at least partially happy? Does he have to be called “ Spider-Man “ to feel like Ben to you?

  • @SynthVoice

    @SynthVoice

    6 ай бұрын

    I would certainly be happy, but it would still feel like a regression for him as a character.

  • @lesliejacoby9137
    @lesliejacoby91376 ай бұрын

    I can understand maybe the dismay of writing Ben Riley for some writers as from a bare bones view they only see a clone of Peter but as for Kane he is literally a more violent spiderman. How has not one writer been attracted to a character he can do almost anything with that is spiderman but will and very much can kill?

  • @InReserveProductions

    @InReserveProductions

    6 ай бұрын

    It's literally modern Red Hood and everyone wants to write him.

  • @Dhampir101980

    @Dhampir101980

    6 ай бұрын

    Because the superior Spider-Man already exists at the same time. So that makes Kaine feel less special, since the things that Otto does usually have a direct impact on Peter and his life. Kaine’s actions are isolated now, so for many writers there’s no appeal to him. Think about it, part of the reason that red hood is so popular is because of the emotional impact he has on Batman and his mission. He’s the son that Bruce always struggles the most to truly help and understand. That’s tragic because Bruce loves him. Peter viewed Ben like a brother, that’s why editorial probably turned him into chasm, because it should shake him up emotionally. Peter’s relationship with Kaine has always been more distant by comparison. So there’s less of a story hook to use Kaine these days. He’s coming back in the mark of Kaine one shot later this year though

  • @lesliejacoby9137

    @lesliejacoby9137

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Dhampir101980 I get that but I disagree in some aspects. 1. As far as I'm aware they made Otto give up being the superior spiderman in a crap story line (like just make someone else be doc ock) so Kane has an opening there if you seem them similar but (on to #2) 2. I don't think Kane and Superior spiderman were that similar. Kane was more violent and brutish in my eyes while having a unique personality from not having a regular family, life, and childhood in a sense (ben has Peter's memories to make up for that) leaving him more cold in emotional smarts. Otto is more cunning and is like a batman but spiderman as he prepares for everything and looks for maximum effectiveness and efficiency but where he falls from batman is in personality as he has a high self esteem and large ego he fuels through proving himself superior from others which leads to his downfall and lack of ability to improve in some scenarios but he can as well come off cold emotional smart wise but that's because he puts others beneath him (so I don't get the similarity point you made and to add Otto would not lobotmize carnage. He ain't gruesome like that but meticulous). 3. While I wish Kane would have some interactions with Peter I think his lack of connection to him makes it easier to write for him as you literally can do anything as it doesn't feel weird for him to not interact with Peter unlike silk, miles, and ben over long periods of time since they have a lot to offer and some were made off those connections. As for Kane you can make him his own thing (ben needs Peter for his best stories imo so) and let him go off doing his own stuff as a rouge spiderman. He has so much to develop as well character wise as the basis is there waiting to be molded into a final product. I always thought his character would fit as a less vicous punisher who has a bit of a rulebook and is not a loose cannon but won't hold himself to the same standards as others (wheather that's because of his ideas or lack of understanding of others). Either ways thanks for letting me yap about a character I need to see get some love.

  • @Dhampir101980

    @Dhampir101980

    6 ай бұрын

    @@lesliejacoby9137 I understand. Kaine’s scarlet spider solo series by Chris Yost was great. But I can also see why he isn’t used more often. I meant that he and superior Spider-Man both occupy the same “ gritty Spidey “ space, but I’ve read both series and know that there are differences between them. Kaine believes that he’s a bad guy, but ultimately still does good things. Otto wants people to believe that he’s a hero, while he ultimately does whatever suits his purposes. I was saying that since Otto’s time is more popular in the current fandom mindset, Kaine doesn’t really have a place. The fact that there’s a new superior Spider-Man ongoing book right now, and not one for Kaine speaks volumes.

  • @lesliejacoby9137

    @lesliejacoby9137

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Dhampir101980 I can't deny that and I do enjoy some superior spiderman. Overall I just want each spider person to get proper solo runs every now and then which Kane and Silk seem to be falling to the backlog of that.

  • @comixproviderftw_02
    @comixproviderftw_026 ай бұрын

    Most people: *Simps Miguel O’Hara* Synth, an intellectual: *Simps Ben Reilly*

  • @Retron518

    @Retron518

    6 ай бұрын

    Because he is a character in a new movie. If for example, Spider-Knight or Arachknight get introduced, it'll be him.

  • @SynthVoice

    @SynthVoice

    6 ай бұрын

    YES. I AM THE SYMBIOTE SIMP AND THE BEN REILLY SIMP.

  • @SynthVoice

    @SynthVoice

    6 ай бұрын

    I actually don't like Ben in the new movie ;-;

  • @The_Troid
    @The_Troid6 ай бұрын

    I know its a bad idea to say this on here and specially after finishing the video but i always wanted a mini series with kaine, spider-cide and ben just having some adventures and getting to know (or getting discovering in the case of cide) each other and it could be called scarlet spiders

  • @SynthVoice

    @SynthVoice

    6 ай бұрын

    That would be cool, but there's already a mini series called 'The Scarlet Spiders' that focuses on Earth 94 Ben, 616 Kaine, and Ultimate Jessica Drew during the events of the first Spider Verse event! You'll never guess what happens to Ben at the end ;-;

  • @The_Troid

    @The_Troid

    6 ай бұрын

    @@SynthVoice yeah I know I read that story pretty good ending

  • @Ben_youth
    @Ben_youth6 ай бұрын

    I remember watching the final episodes to the 90s Spider-Man cartoon and Ben appeared. I instantly feel I love with his design and he’s been one of my fav alt spidys since. Honestly I 100% agree with you. We already are fine with 2 Spider-Men at once. Just slap “sensational” on the comic run title and let us be happy…if not then just let him die in a send off story as spidey one last time…I wish the comic staff would realize that Ben isn’t tainted goods JUST cause of the clone saga. ALSO YA, wtf where’s my boy Kaine!?

  • @neon-brian6155
    @neon-brian61556 ай бұрын

    One of, if not THE most irritating thing about the Scarlet Spider…was Ultimate Spider-man, both the show and comics. They literally just named Kaine “Ben Riley” just so they could make Ben fans happy, when it was just a slap in the face and don’t even get me started on how they did Kaine in this show. And don’t even get me started on the comics because they made Ben black (not racist, I’m black) who’s a scientist who creates the clones: Scorpion, Spider Women, Tarantula and…Kaine, who was basically just himself before his redemption arc, we don’t get to see ultimate comic Kaine’s redemption because he dies. My bro’s can not catch a break.

  • @camelotassemble

    @camelotassemble

    6 ай бұрын

    What? I need more information because that sounds ridiculous in all the wrong ways.

  • @SarcasticWanderer
    @SarcasticWanderer6 ай бұрын

    From watching your videos and reading a little of the comics, made me really prefer and appreciate Ben more as Spidey. A Spider-Man that actually LIKES and WANTS to be Spider-Man is such a breath of freash air. I feel like most heroes in media treat the whole superhero thing as a burden or curse, in some cases an atonement, but Spider-Man never felt that way to me. Nor ever should he. I mean come on dude, he goes fucking "woohoo" when he flings himself across a skyscraper at 300 miles per hour, don't tell me he's not having fun. And the fact Ben was ecstatic when he got to be Spider-Man again with his brand new suit was just so heartwarming! So yeah, I just wanted to gush for a little bit because I've been with this dude since the PS1 Spider-Man game and I've always picked his hood outfit whenever it was an option in other games but I never took the time to learn about him. So thank you for your videos and I also hope Ben Reilly gets what he truly deserves later down the line. One more thing, this 0:05 That middle pic... The tank top, the pose... I just can't man, I'm too gay for this kind of crap

  • @thespidercrafter8547
    @thespidercrafter85476 ай бұрын

    Ben Reilly DESERVES JUSTICE!! He flipping does! As much as Peter Parker. They're just being chucked on, written incorrectly, you are write Ben deserves to be Spider-Man as much as Peter. Despite me at first not appreciating Ben Reilly as a character when I was younger, I was only getting into comics at the time and I just wanted to read my boy Peter Parker. But, as I have gotten older and learn about the scumbags that people in Marvel Editorial like Nick Lowe are now, and how they're just destroying every that everyone loves about these characters. Thanks to this channel, I really grew to love Ben as much as Peter, hopefully one day Peter, Ben and Kaine can be free. Hopefully they can just be free to be the Spider-brothers. Hopefully Ben can be SPIDER-MAN. Well, sorry for this long paragraph, I hope you all have a nice day or evening, looking forward to the next video! Bye!!

  • @takeruneverborn4740
    @takeruneverborn47406 ай бұрын

    Your not alone syn Scarlet Spider was and still my favorite Spiderman costume I first had access to it in the PS1 Spiderman Duolugy games I would work my butt off to unlock it,and for marvel to disrespect it and the character who brought this costume in Existence is appalling to me

  • @chrisconnors7327
    @chrisconnors73272 ай бұрын

    Iconic hero

  • @TevyaSmolka
    @TevyaSmolka6 ай бұрын

    I always liked Ben Reilly scarlet spider and personally for me I still wished marvel would finally let Ben Reilly scarlet spider his niece mayday parker spider-girl from mc2 because that story had so much potential to be amazing and it drives me crazy marvel won't pull that trigger for some stupid reason in my opinion.

  • @emptymelodies3316
    @emptymelodies33166 ай бұрын

    “Baja Blast lookin ass” 😂

  • @SynthVoice

    @SynthVoice

    6 ай бұрын

    HE IS THO

  • @prolastmedia6171
    @prolastmedia61716 ай бұрын

    I'm gonna be honest, i feel like "Chasm" is going to be the new status quo for Ben for a looong time

  • @SynthVoice

    @SynthVoice

    6 ай бұрын

    Well you never know, Nick Lowe and Zeb Wells confirmed that they have no plans on EVER using the character again - chasm or not. Currently, the X-Men writers have total control over Ben, and from what we've seen of him from them, they're not planning on delegating him to just a villain role.

  • @DrPepperIsBae
    @DrPepperIsBae6 ай бұрын

    You're the best when it comes to Ben Reilly

  • @SynthVoice

    @SynthVoice

    6 ай бұрын

    I aim to please :3

  • @lucastheprinceofdarkness9344
    @lucastheprinceofdarkness93446 ай бұрын

    Let’s just get this out of the way. We are all suffering from L’s all around the Spidey Fan Community. Peter is getting terribly written stories from Zeb Wells. MJ is stuck with Paul, a character I refuse to trust. Ben has been character assassinated to hell. And Kaine has been forgotten. At least fans of Kaine can breathe a sigh of relief that the writers haven’t screwed him up yet.

  • @SynthVoice

    @SynthVoice

    6 ай бұрын

    Well look out, Zeb and Lowe just announced that they're pairing up Chasm and Kaine in a new ongoing book ;-;

  • @lucastheprinceofdarkness9344

    @lucastheprinceofdarkness9344

    6 ай бұрын

    @@SynthVoice I literally just looked it up after I read your comment. That’s it. It’s official, Zeb Wells has beef with the clones and he genuinely believes that we do too.

  • @Spider-Drip
    @Spider-Drip6 ай бұрын

    IVE BEEN WAITING FOR AGES

  • @Zekrel
    @Zekrel6 ай бұрын

    I’ve been saying this for awhile now but I stand by it. We need an animated movie or show about the Spidey brothers Peter, Ben, and Kaine. Also, I love the passion you focus into all your videos. They make me feel better about being a Spidey fan in this dark time.

  • @crazyredhead4968
    @crazyredhead49686 ай бұрын

    As a Kaine fan thank you we don't eat much. But I think with Miles and Peter are Spider-Men and Kaine and ben are the Scarlet spiders but that's me growing up reading Kaine's book and just hearing never read the clone saga (they are lieres and I'm reading now). Now I for what might get me flamed but chasam's suit is good juju really bad colors. Change it to the classic red(scarlet) and blue. And any time Peter is out of NYC or dead or whatever weird thing comics do he can have a beyond and sensational mixed style suit. Now I'm not saying Ben is just a replacement. He just respects his brother and Millies alot. Also just Kaine and Ben there awesome together like Peter and Millies

  • @Agent_Extreme
    @Agent_Extreme6 ай бұрын

    Bout damn time

  • @SynthVoice

    @SynthVoice

    6 ай бұрын

    hehe

  • @sebcadecon
    @sebcadecon6 ай бұрын

    I'd say for people who enjoy Ben Riley spider-man (myself included) have him as a spider-man in a different state like L.A. or Texas like they did with Kain, so that he's his own spider-man, that way you can not have him in the story while not killing him.

  • @pizzatime1503
    @pizzatime15036 ай бұрын

    ur trippin on the chasm design thats some heat

  • @SynthVoice

    @SynthVoice

    6 ай бұрын

    Baja Blast man.

  • @FireSonic225
    @FireSonic2256 ай бұрын

    Literally barely read the Clone Saga (cus all I could get my hands on were the Amazing comics, so barely got any of it) and yet I love ben reiley. Mostly because of Spider-Man TAS and it's version of the clone saga

  • @PolarisStargazer
    @PolarisStargazer6 ай бұрын

    What's your opinion on the Chasm and Scarlet Spider comic coming up? I personally don't have high hopes for it, but it is being written by Steve Foxe, and he wrote Ben competently in his Dark Xmen series for the brief times he showed up.

  • @SynthVoice

    @SynthVoice

    6 ай бұрын

    I think that no matter how well it's written, it's just going to be a rehash of the Peter David's Scarlet Spider run - which I hated.

  • @kryptonitespider2513
    @kryptonitespider25136 ай бұрын

    Like I've been saying: Caine Spider is underrated

  • @comicbookking3446
    @comicbookking34466 ай бұрын

    2 questions 1. How would you feel if the Scarlet Spider suit ever showed up as a homemade suit for Peter ? 2. Do you think the Sensational Spider-Man suit looks good on Mayday Parker or do you think she should’ve had a different suit ?

  • @SynthVoice

    @SynthVoice

    6 ай бұрын

    1. Eh, it's fine I guess 2. I think she looks perfect in the sensational suit, and I'm glad she's made it her own!

  • @comicbookking3446

    @comicbookking3446

    6 ай бұрын

    @@SynthVoice 2 questions 1. would you mind if both Ben Riley and Mayday Parker used the sensational suit at the same time ? 2. How would you feel if Ben Riley returned to the Beyond suit if he ever returned as Spider-Man?

  • @Ash-Winchester
    @Ash-Winchester6 ай бұрын

    I wonder what Ben's scarlet spider outfit would look like if he had organic webbing instead of web shooters. I already know what the sensational suit with organic webbing looks like thanks to raimi trilogy fanart.

  • @bardock2615
    @bardock261526 күн бұрын

    I like the costume

  • @jdog7933
    @jdog79336 ай бұрын

    your videos are nice👍

  • @SynthVoice

    @SynthVoice

    6 ай бұрын

    Glad you like them!

  • @mardhensousa
    @mardhensousa6 ай бұрын

    Ben reilly it's amazing

  • @SynthVoice

    @SynthVoice

    6 ай бұрын

    YES HE IS.

  • @IWYRDASHITE
    @IWYRDASHITE6 ай бұрын

    The best Spider-Man ever

  • @martijncrawford4435
    @martijncrawford44356 ай бұрын

    I actually liked bens chasm costume, I just hated eeverything around it...why can't they let my boy be cool? (seriously is everyone with Peter's genes just meant to suffer?)

  • @SynthVoice

    @SynthVoice

    6 ай бұрын

    He likes the Chasm costume. Send him to the pit, boys.

  • @ricksanchezdeluniversoc1379
    @ricksanchezdeluniversoc13796 ай бұрын

    Today in another episode of "miles was a mistake"...

  • @SynthVoice

    @SynthVoice

    6 ай бұрын

    That's not what I'm saying in the slightest. Miles Morales rules.

  • @DrPepperIsBae

    @DrPepperIsBae

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@SynthVoicebro just wanted an excuse to Slander Miles

  • @Peopleguys678
    @Peopleguys6786 ай бұрын

    The yaaaay

  • @debby2422
    @debby24226 ай бұрын

    What was the comic called

  • @debby2422

    @debby2422

    6 ай бұрын

    The one from the title

  • @debby2422

    @debby2422

    6 ай бұрын

    I mean picture sorry

  • @bluewings2
    @bluewings26 ай бұрын

    Oh wow, they cutted him from Sins Rising arc ? They used Gwen as the Ghost Spider, not a character from the 616, but not Ben ? Not gonna lie, it makes me furious. This year, we will see what they want to do with Ben and Kaine... fingers crossed.

  • @Mactrizel
    @Mactrizel6 ай бұрын

    He needs to be spiderman in a different reality

  • @SynthVoice

    @SynthVoice

    6 ай бұрын

    Well we do have Earth 94 Ben, who's been shown to have succeeded in every story where Peter failed - ie stopping Superior from ever happening.

  • @Mactrizel

    @Mactrizel

    6 ай бұрын

    @SynthVoice oo wow didn't even know that

  • @emirozdemir-wallywest1426
    @emirozdemir-wallywest14266 ай бұрын

    Ben is just a mary sue clone he never gonna be real Spider-Man.

  • @samuelkohi4415
    @samuelkohi44156 ай бұрын

    No. Make Ben Reilly brand new superhero in some other city or country. Do not always pair him with Peter. Let him be his own character. It worked with Kaine and Doc Ock. It will definitely work with Ben if those fucking bastards allow it.

  • @GreaterGrievobeast55

    @GreaterGrievobeast55

    6 ай бұрын

    Work is a strong word. Kaines scarlet spider solo runs were good, but they didn't seem to keep him in the spotlight unfortunately. And doc ock still sauntered around with the "superior" spider title till they roped him back into villainhood.

  • @samuelkohi4415

    @samuelkohi4415

    6 ай бұрын

    @@GreaterGrievobeast55 to me these runs were awesome

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