Just btw, if it looks like I'm delaying her Nair a lot, I am not, I am doing it basically instantly, Pyra's Nair just comes out slow lol.

@menslingerie5502

Жыл бұрын

Just as an aside you can also get full momentum by pressing the direction within a certain time (I think 1 frame) after your jump to get full momentum as well. Important for getting the nair out earlier and getting full drift. Lots of applications where this matters for autocancels, rising aerials, sour/sweet spots and out of shield options.

@DKbill

Жыл бұрын

@@menslingerie5502 thank you boss! I didnt know the specifics

@menslingerie5502

Жыл бұрын

@@DKbill it's especially relevant as it enables you to use buffered Nairs with full momentum but it's also good to know in case you want to undershoot so that you know to wait a couple frames to go less distance. Very relevant for moves like sephiroth bair.

@gestanosamuel466

Жыл бұрын

If you hold 2 shield button at the same time, you can jump forward OSS easily wothout release your shield, if only use 1 shield button it accidentally roll forward

@blob1406

Жыл бұрын

You are. It comes out slower when you showed yourself jumping right.

What good advice. Can't wait to forget it immediately the moment I start playing another Smash Bros match

@DKbill

Жыл бұрын

lmao nooo

@malikmuhammad9085

Жыл бұрын

Ditto

@Vic_714

Жыл бұрын

It'll come naturally. I learned that even when I try to form a move I slowly start to catch on to the inputs however, you must also train your hands to react on time. When you find yourself digging into combo you'll do it more and more just takes practice and a little muscle memory. Goodluck

@Gwenpool256

10 ай бұрын

Stop the relatability is killing me

@pennysantana247

9 ай бұрын

Or for the opponenent to airdodge/parry every singe attack and make this tip useless anyway

"Bro can we just play something else you're ruining my birthday"

@figure55animations49

7 ай бұрын

Lmao

@tired108

7 ай бұрын

bro every time 💀

@newmail7624

2 ай бұрын

AjHHhHHJajajajJJajj

@bensonbone

Ай бұрын

Lmao

@Im2lazy4thisCrit

16 күн бұрын

xd

Me, a Ganondorf main: Air movement?

@thetakerofknees9737

9 ай бұрын

Me, a Mac main: Whats that ?

@TotshotAirsoft

9 ай бұрын

Me, a Luigi main: Yo no habla?

@theperfecttroller

9 ай бұрын

luigi mains:

@memenazi7078

8 ай бұрын

Ganon’s air speed is fast enough, you can fair reach a roll away with fair after side b and they always fall for it.

@byfabri4577

7 ай бұрын

Me, a Snake main:

I love how Smash looks simple, but has so many nuances that makes the difference between winning and losing.

@DKbill

Жыл бұрын

big agree

@SadToffee

Жыл бұрын

If by nuance you mean a thousand terribly implemented mechanics that you can subvert with counter-intuitive movement and basically break the game then yeah I agree!

@illford6921

Жыл бұрын

@SadToffee aint even like the inputs come out correctly all the time 💀

@ChadwickDickinson

Жыл бұрын

​@@SadToffeebiggest John stance in history.

@SadToffee

Жыл бұрын

@@ChadwickDickinson 🧢

When you play Luigi so you don’t get anywhere in the air anyways 🤣 this is super helpful though definitely keeping this in mind

@DKbill

Жыл бұрын

lool this kinda true

@prestige8477

Жыл бұрын

​​@@DKbill Kinda true? Luigi has zero Airspeed.

@TotshotAirsoft

Жыл бұрын

🤝

@WeaponExX

Жыл бұрын

Idk whos idea it was for that? Where is the momentum?

@myorangesarenice1122

Жыл бұрын

True

90% of smash ultimate players also don’t shower

@DKbill

Жыл бұрын

bruh lmao 💀 😂

@kingmagnus4009

Жыл бұрын

No, that’s *Melee* you’re talking about

@pinnacull

Жыл бұрын

@@kingmagnus4009 nah it's all fighting game players

@no-bc4jl

Жыл бұрын

The bathroom's just really high up

@k12moyo

Жыл бұрын

*angry upvote*

Jigglypuff mains: "What's the difference?"

@andrew6341

Жыл бұрын

All 3 puff mains besides HBox subs

@citrus5797

Жыл бұрын

Hey that's me :0

@mute_cebu_

Жыл бұрын

​@@citrus5797 Also me.

@Swaggingdaily

11 ай бұрын

No fucking way I found the other 2

@snipe_hunterz7617

9 ай бұрын

@@Swaggingdailywait. I am also a jigglypuff main. Does that mean…? *checks channels I am subbed to* Oh yeah, I am subbed to HBox. Huh

90% of Pyra’s bodyweight is in her chest.

@lights5651

11 ай бұрын

Poppi could lift Gonzales if necessary

@dogyX3

8 ай бұрын

I still can't believe she got into Smash without getting more censored

@Calamity5

5 ай бұрын

@@dogyX3 Unbelievably she still has jiggle physics

@This-is-a-commentt

3 ай бұрын

*BONK*

@homedepotindustrialfan936

3 ай бұрын

@@This-is-a-commenttThank you king, I strayed from the path

Fun fact: if you have two jump buttons and press them at the same time, it’ll always be a short hop.

@dr.funnybones

Жыл бұрын

wait what the hell that's so helpful it's difficult to short hop for me, i'm gonna use the hell out of this tip

@LordLocrianofJudah

Жыл бұрын

@@dr.funnybonesI like using LZ for my second jump button 🔥

@estebandavid4853

7 ай бұрын

What

@blazingfire7517

6 ай бұрын

Yeah I remapped R to my jump so R and x together gets me an easy short hop

@TheLogBerry

Ай бұрын

I basically only short hop that way, so much easier

“90% of ssbu players jump incorrectly” Me who thought you jumped by using your legs to thrust yourself into the air:

Bro sounds like he's recording in a bathtub

@DKbill

4 ай бұрын

Are you looking into my window rn😳

@zapadap1328

3 ай бұрын

Can't be. Smash players don't own bathtubs

It can be inconsistent tho. I find inputing side to move forward a bit then doing a directional input jump helps. Since you'll basically always have the momentum

@DKbill

Жыл бұрын

nah, just practice, it's not frame perfect but what i do is drop shield then immediately hit forward and jump. I wont move forward since im in shield drop lag at first, but you can jump out of the shield drop lag in ultimate, so Im only like a frame or 2 longer than jumping OOS imemdiately; so worth it for the added distance when u need it

Okay so many people input jump and nair at the same time and then move because the buffering system always counts it as a short hop, aka, it's the easy way. Also, if it's done this way and instead you hold forward or backwards, you'll still get a short hop aerial but a fair or bair instead. The inputs have to be pressed super quickly to do what's said here which many players find it very difficult including myself. You have to short hop in the direction first, almost immediately let go of analog stick direction, input the nair, and press in the direction of drifting again for maximum drift before landing. It takes a lot of practice to get this right consistently.

@RandomDude647

8 ай бұрын

This is why I miss cstick nairs from smash 4; it made it way easier to do this

@thememeilator2633

3 ай бұрын

​@@RandomDude647 c stick nairs still exist in ultimate. I do them by accident all the time when practicing

If you hold 2 shield button at the same time, you can jump forward easily without release shield first

@DKbill

Жыл бұрын

that's really smart actually! thanks for sharing

@greendayblinkfan182

Жыл бұрын

@@DKbill I don't get what he means. Can you elaborate for me?

@DKbill

Жыл бұрын

@@greendayblinkfan182 u wont accidentally roll out of shield if u hold 2 shield buttons :)

@LyfSukz

Жыл бұрын

​@@DKbillholding b also disables roll out of shield

I do wonder why you’d have to nair out of shield with an enemy a quarter of the stage away from you though

Gamer discovers that holding stick to left makes character move left faster than not

@Gins.

Жыл бұрын

If this is all you took away from the video, then you missed the point

@UhhhhHi2

Жыл бұрын

The point isn’t that holding a direction makes you move faster in the air, it’s that you instantly accelerate to your max air speed when you’re already holding in a direction before you jump

@itslarose

Жыл бұрын

Like in every game 😂

@DanBlabbers

Жыл бұрын

I main ganondorf and you basically have to dash into jump then aerial input very fast or he’s slow as hell. Regardless I always flick the stick before a jump. I don’t know ANYONE who jumps without holding a direction 😂

@rainbowresorts

Жыл бұрын

tell me youve never played ultimate without telling me

The problem with this is if you’re the jiggler you can do this and Nasir them from cross stage

Really it’s situational, the sh nair out of shield is pretty much a get off me tool, or to catch them jumping. Really informative video tho! 🔥

problem is this approach takes more frames than a fast out of shield

@DKbill

9 ай бұрын

Yes this wouldn’t be for a speed thing

This is actually crazy, I can think of a ton of situations where my nair out of shield whiffs when it would hit if I did this. Gonna drill this into my muscle memory ASAP

@DKbill

Жыл бұрын

Goat

had to teach this to myself when i tried learning void tech

@DKbill

Жыл бұрын

Yeah

@jafl_ics8905

Жыл бұрын

if you want you can see the combo where i used it here kzread.info/dash/bejne/hqGHytqNfZvFY6w.html

@jafl_ics8905

Жыл бұрын

it doesnt look like i used it there but i did i just reacted to the di quickly

@DKbill

Жыл бұрын

@@jafl_ics8905 that is sick! thank you for sharing

As a sheik player this is great advice in a local match, but unbelievably inconsistent online, even wired in sometimes. I'd rather understand the downfalls of nair oos macro then get wrecked for full hopping or throwing the wrong air completely IMO.

@DKbill

Жыл бұрын

true lol

@Zhone14

Ай бұрын

Facts, till this day me and manual short hop have beef online.

yes full momentum Arials are really good, but really inconsistent to input (bc there needs to be a gab between the jump and attack input and the arial comes out on frame 4 )

@DKbill

Жыл бұрын

nooo, the key to consistency is inputting the direction during shield drop lag (which u want to cancel ASAP) or during ending of other moves which u want to aerial after (for example landing aerial to full momentum aerial which I do a lot as yoshi)

You can also use two jump inputs at once to short hop while holding a direction for people who can't let go of the input fast enough reliably.

@acemontana3559

10 ай бұрын

Isnt that the auto short hop thing he's talking about?

@cowardenemy9495

10 ай бұрын

​@@acemontana3559noup, the auto short hop is when you press jump and attack at the same time.

@acemontana3559

10 ай бұрын

@@cowardenemy9495 thank you for the explanation. Using Sephiroth I don't see a difference in the auto short hop's attack and a regular short hop attack fr. I'll look again now that I know what im looking for but it didnt seem like I couldnt reach a distance.

This is CRUCIAL for characters with no fast out of shield option. Great video!

Yo! Great Call out!

@DKbill

Жыл бұрын

thank you!

I didn't even know about auto short hop 😅 I learned on Melee and this new-school stuff is a mystery to me lol.

@xxXKillTheRedsXxx

Жыл бұрын

We’ll worry not bc it’s garbaggio

I think this is the one most fundamental technique that I was missing while short hopping. So for that, have my heartfelt thanks sir ✋♥️

Thank you, Pyra main.

Me, who's nair always just turns into a full hop because i inputted it wrong

I'm not even fast enough to do a short hop

bro just delayed his nair and called it a new tech...

Finally someone explained it!! All I hear from pros is that auto-short hop is bad but they never explain why Crazy how this short video explained more than them lmao, thank you!!

@elliemoffett3598

Жыл бұрын

Auto short hop has it's uses. There are some combos where it chains pretty well like Hero's dthrow -> sh fair. It's also a really easy button to hit for bringing out a defensive nair or other aerial option as fast as possible. The main problems with it are that you can't hold a direction until you trigger the move, as demonstrated in this vid, and you relinquish control the timing of your aerial attack. Many more advanced combos require you to short hop manually so you can bring out the attack a little later to hit the proper spacing, something that is very important for all crazy Luigi combos. It's also worth noting that being able to mix up the timing on your sh aerials, and better spacing for sh nair is very valuable in neutral as well so that makes relying on auto short hop considered a bad habit.

i didnt need this but i appreciate you making content like this for others

I've been probably doing this mistake this whole time. Thanks for pointing it out

I've always heard people say not to use the auto short hop input, but i never knew why. This makes a lot of sense

@DKbill

Жыл бұрын

there it is broski!

@stealthchopper54

Жыл бұрын

What is the auto short hop input? Im not sure if im using it or not

@DKbill

Жыл бұрын

@@stealthchopper54 im talking about attack + jump to do short hop aerials

ay lmao I already knew this the way ultimate's short hop aerials work infuriates me so I got super good at full speed short hops about it

for ness its a little bit funnier. we have 2 types of short hops, normal short hop into air attack. then we have frame perfect double jump into down-direction psi magnet for extra mobility. (yayyy)

I can't stand nair, lmao. It feels like my stick can't even return in time for me to press the attack button.

I try to short hop, but I'm so inconsistent at it, without the auto short hop attack combo of X+A. I really wish that we could map short hop to the Y button and full hop to the X button.

@metareaper8008

6 ай бұрын

If you press two jump buttons at the same time you'll always shorthop Sorry for being late

I already jump this way

quality advice on youtube shorts? who woulda thunk

@DKbill

Жыл бұрын

your youtube is legit!!

JUMP IS JUMP

"Jump good"

Godlike content

@DKbill

Жыл бұрын

thank you frilly!

This tech is actually amplified with GimR’s new tech! If you double shield and hold forward, jump, and go to neutral and press A at the same time, you get a full speed nair out of shield.

Breaking news!: Pyra has beef with banjo!

Instructions unclear, Goku parried then killed me.

This is very helpful. Thank you very much.

When I was a marth main I would do something like this into down air for the sexy meteor effect and kill potential

My ass can't even short hop consistently

This guy explaining smash mechanics from melee

Nice playing smash 4 helped me in a way I didn't think about lol. I don't think that game had instant short hops. But I'll be consciously doing this from now on

No wonder I have been unable to jump this whole time

Wait there's a button to automatically short hop??

Me, who plays K Rool: "over here, we just ball"

This is gonna make my sora plays even better thanks

Holy shit a smash video actually being helpful for the first time in history

Thank you for this yo, actually helps out a lot!

I can't short hop without the macro, shit's so hard

@DKbill

Жыл бұрын

Just practice. You got this

@LyfSukz

Жыл бұрын

You can auto short hop by pressing two jump buttons simultaneously

@estebandavid4853

7 ай бұрын

To me it helps to be running then leave the stick in neutral and then use the macro to cover space, it is better to use the actual short hop, but then again, it is kinda hard.

Me with a box controller that has a lever to jump with 😮

I almost never use the short hop macro anymore. Mapping a shoulder button to jump really helped

@DKbill

Жыл бұрын

but then short hopping is hard

@jaxsonsmith9457

Жыл бұрын

A good workaround for that is trying to do it with two shoulder buttons if you can do so comfortably. Forever thankful pressing two jump buttons simultaneously performs a short hop

Stick jump supremacy

Holy crap this vid popped up randomly thanks again dk bill

Situational at best. Jumping straight out of sheild is quicker than dropping sheild, dash inputing then jumping. Out of shield options are huge in this game, and if your quick option doesn't work then consider yourself at a frame disadvantage

Steves jab has a special animation for this

This will help me greatly

helps extend combos too ngl, unexplored with cloud specifically imo

I will 100% not manage to nair if I jump with directional input.

@DKbill

Жыл бұрын

😂

I will stand by this till my grave. Smash bros is the hardest fighter i have ever played. People like to say that the true fighting games like tekken and street fighter are harder but they miss one thing. they have literal step by step guides on how to do combos and moves that you can read to learn and build up muscle memory. If Smash bros had something like that then i'd be great at it but since all these strange moves and inputs are basically fan made that means its so much harder to actually learn the pro moves and combos. I get everyone has their own buttons for stuff but a simple (Special+->) goes a long way.

Thanks for this info

I’m an aegis player and I feel like the demonstration woudve made more sense with mythras fast animations lol

This is better situationally. Depending on the frame data, you don't want to delay it unless you understand your opponent is trying to space properly but if you do this you are negative.

That's typically the type of little detail that hold most players back and prevent them from improving. These kinds of indispensable tips should be centralized somewhere so everyone would know and where to go but nobody ever does this. Thanks for this video, it's great. But only people who will end up on it by chance will know.

It's pretty funny how there's a lot of small things like this that a lot of people don't know or utilize well that would make a TON of difference if implemented

@DKbill

Жыл бұрын

big agree. that's why i try to master all the small things most people neglect :)

Now teach me how to use forward to instant back air

I thought this was gonna be like, fast press the jump button to short hop lol, but this was actually useful info

should have mentioned that in order to do this you need to go through the 11 frame shield drop animation + 1 frame minimum to start dash input

@DKbill

Жыл бұрын

so, you can jump out of shield drop. so let's say u drop shield and on frame 1 u hold forward and jump. basically just takes 1 frame longer than most out of shield options, obviously i admit it's hard to do that frame perfectly. u dont actually need to start a dash u just need to be holding forward when u input jump

Don't even play ultimate but this advice probably applies to melee too

I honestly had no idea about this. I just know I'm probably gonna fall right back into that habit when I start playing lol. It's gonna be a tough one to break

Him: explaining jumping Me with pyra/mythra trauma:

I always jump with the direction input.

@DKbill

7 ай бұрын

like tap jump? i dont recommend

I just wish I could get my Roy short hop nair muscle memory back. That 1st hit is so good for combo starters

This is actually quite helpful, thx

brawlhalla players: w e a k

I'm a joker main so, I know about the jump, hold left or right then jump, more effective since you perform his kick better

Tysm very helpful

I never really liked the shorthop aerial shortcut for this reason specifically.

me a cloud main, "lmao as if i cant just hit you from halfway across the stage with my massive compensator while double jumping backwards"

A similar explanation for B-reverse with or without changing opposite momentum!

I think with proper timing you can buffer your aerial with max airspeed, it's necessary for lots of combos, so there isn't actually a need for delay, the real issue is that players try to buffer aerials that are meant to be fallen with like greninjas fair or nair, of zss nair.

@DKbill

Жыл бұрын

yeah

I was doin it right the whole time and never knew it.😊

distance vs speed. fair mechanic ngl

I have always used tap jump, and this is making me decide to implement the jump buttons into my play style.

To me it seems like a commitment issue. A lot of players will just jump without knowing if they're going to move in a direction or not.

They seem.. Bigger..

@DKbill

7 күн бұрын

BRAH??

I didn’t even know you could jump directionally out of shield. I thought if you tried you’d just roll ._.

@DKbill

Жыл бұрын

Do it during your shield drop Animation, which you can jump out of in Ult

As a Cloud main, I can say, this is useful!

i’m realizing how smash 4 cloud like pyras nair is 💀

@DKbill

Жыл бұрын

loool yeah