If you are offended on someone's else behalf.......shut up.

@Breca

3 ай бұрын

You got it

@monicabang_

15 күн бұрын

Omg you took the words right out of my mouth...

If they don't like it they don't have to watch it!

They ARE punching up. At the woke authoritarians. 🙃

@-Gumbo

3 ай бұрын

Exactly

@SailToTheMoon6719

3 ай бұрын

💯

@ramsey6681

3 ай бұрын

Spot on.

@inkoftheworld

3 ай бұрын

Seriously, this ideology has so much power, it's a joke they think it's "punching down". They think any time they don't get their way it's some horrible oppression that is killing them.

@Rareprune

3 ай бұрын

My thoughts exactly! WE have become the new “oppressed” by the authoritarian woke. 💯

Remembering that time James Barr dismissed Douglas's opinion as "a straight white male"

Glad they are pushing boundaries. The easily offended are self absorbed, shallow and absolutely boring.

Anyway it's not a comedians job to educate or elevate. It's his job to make people laugh and forget their troubles.

The fact that this has to be discussed is insane to me. If you don't like a comedian, don't watch or support them. Period. Don't think you have some right to shut them down because they offend you.

@inkoftheworld

3 ай бұрын

they say offensive things about everything too, but only trans ideology has this power to get stuff taken down or even talked about being taken down, while they pretend it's "punching down" to make fun of it.

@ChilledfishStick

3 ай бұрын

I agree with your sentiment about shutting down comedians, though I would add an exception for when they cross the line to willfully stoke hatred, but I disagree regarding the discussion. I believe that comedy that sparks discussions, as-so-far as the discussions are not calling for shutting down speech, is very valuable, as are the discussions. I don't believe that having unkind words towards a comedian, or a comedy act, is a bad thing.

It isn't Comedy if you don't punch down! The more politically incorrect the better! Love Douglas Murray ❤️

@user-ij6ve3rw6s

3 ай бұрын

and zelensky has millions a state weapons losing yeah but he had it al for free douglas is dying for nothing mate

The reason trans are mocked so much is not because he's obsessed with them. It's because he's a comedian and they're a laughing stock.

@WhoFlungDung

3 ай бұрын

That and the fact that they constantly shit on him. More people need to make more trans jokes to normalize it. Sorry, but no one should have a pass from jokes. They aren't special.

@I9s7lam5is-S3tu1pid

3 ай бұрын

Bingo

@f3aok

3 ай бұрын

By joking about trans they're just highlighting the absurdity of what we're being told to believe.

There was a court case here in Quebec where a handicapped boy sued a comedian for making fun of him and he lost.

@SMacCuUladh

3 ай бұрын

@@QuestionableViews And being fat and going to hell because he's an atheist.

@Breca

3 ай бұрын

@@QuestionableViews

@fioredeutchmark

3 ай бұрын

That’s absolutely hilarious 😂

@aroyaliota

3 ай бұрын

😂🎉

@loganmanderfield1162

2 ай бұрын

As a man in a wheelchair, good.

James Burr criticising Ricky Gervais and Dave Chappelle is an epitome of punching up - gotta give him that.

@johnl5316

3 ай бұрын

lol

@AmanitaWoodrose

3 ай бұрын

Looks like he and Douglas have made friends 😆

This woman is horrendous 😂

Notice how these bleeding hearts never get offended when Ricky jokes about the holocaust.🤔

Great discussion! I love how civil and polite all of the guests were. Douglas is a fabulous host, to boot!!

"Here what I think about comedy..." -- someone who has never been funny in their life

These jokes are a response to woke criticism and would have never been made without them. Using the absurd to demonstrate the absurd

Paula as per usual taking a moral high ground like she has a mandate to take it? Our family laughed, with Ricky Gervais, talking about disabled kids. My grandson was born with part of his heart missing, and is also autistic, possibly from the trauma of intervention operations. We were all traumatised by those challenges and the daily ones we undergo as a family. My grandson is our Prince, a trouper, and we as a family entitled to laugh at this, borderline or not, if we can't laugh at our circumstances, then we are doomed. Get over being uncomfortable, offended, I love that comedians can be reckless, we need that. Turn it off if you don't like it.

@pinchebruha405

3 ай бұрын

Awe you sound like a great family…..❤ many blessings your way

You can always tell who has the power in a society by just observing who you are not allowed to mock. Transgenderism is the unmockable ideology in this society despite all of the material that's there.

This is one of the most civil discussion I think I've ever seen on TalkTV, well done!

Terrific beautifully managed panel Douglas, classic demonstration of how to get the best out of your diverse political guests and not end up dividing the audience with hatred, raising smiles in all and respecting differing opinions. Professional, respectful to guests and engaging, well done. If the BBC was worth saving, which it isn't at this point, #Murray4BBCQuestionTimeHost, Douglas Murray the current Sir Robin Day .

They’re both hilarious. Too bad if either offends your delicate, pearl-clutching sensibilities 😂

Don't have that woman on again. And who exactly are you to tell others what they can and cannot joke about? Just remember that everyone has an opinion and ALL are equally irrelevant.

@SMacCuUladh

3 ай бұрын

She's a disaster, all emotion no rationality. But she should be on because there's a lot of women out there that think/emote like her.

@rodneypayne4827

3 ай бұрын

For the person who replied to my comment. I apologize for not replying. KZread has hidden your comment from me.

@SMacCuUladh

3 ай бұрын

@@rodneypayne4827 it was me and YT are now hiding my own comment from me. They really are lovers of free speech.

Imagine campaigning for a joke to be removed from a streaming platform and still believing you're the good guy...

Or maybe he’s tapping into a large unsaid feeling many people have, and it’s frustrating to certain people to see society not all jumping on their “correct” bandwagon

we need a douglas Murray show %100!

If you don't like something, don't watch it. There is so much content out there, you will never read, hear, or see it all, so just move on to something else.

She is insufferable

Look…Rickey Gervais was making fun of the situation, not the child. He was kind of making his own character clueless. “Instead of wishing for a message from me or a trip to DisneyLand, why didn’t you, your parents, or the Make A Wish Foundation say anything about getting well?” Because none of these three can actually make a terminally ill child better. That is what went through the mind of every single person that laughed, but when you have to explain a joke, it stops being funny.

Today comedy is the only time there is freedom of speech. Don’t take the one outlet away. What a boring colourless world we’d be left with.

They’re not making fun of the handicapped, they’re making fun of the virtue signalers and the perpetually offended.

See what’s funny about this is that Paula doesn’t realise it’s really her they’re making fun of. Or perhaps she does and isn’t taking it very well. Either way, the point of these jokes is precisely to get people to reflect on the fact that they won’t allow punching down because they see it as a down, essentially, yet simultaneously speak up constantly about how equal they are. Turns out they’re not after all? This is the central confusion at the heart of much of the social justice and equality discussion - the notion that you make all equal by treating them unequally. Sometimes that’s the right thing to do and sometimes it isn’t, but if you don’t understand that choice you deserved to be laughed at.

@vmasing1965

3 ай бұрын

That was good. Cheers!

Poor Man's Owen Jones here is insufferable

There's ALWAYS the option to choose what entertains each individual. Not an option to censor free speech. Of course - no instigating violence.

It's called 'dark humour'. I used it as a kid and still do with my kids and I'll keep using it until my last day. No one will take away my free speech. Black comedy, also known as dark comedy, morbid humour, gallows humour, black humour, or dark humour, is a style of comedy that makes light of subject matter that is generally considered taboo, particularly subjects that are normally considered serious or painful to discuss. Wikipedia.

💕Douglas 💕💕

Give us the Douglas Murray Show. It time. 🎉

Rubin is the only sensible panelist - he does not have an agenda to promote

I prefer Douglas to express his opinion rather than asking questions only and try to remain impartial. That is where he really stands out and shines.

Chappelle is is a modern day “Shaman”, the most insightful commentator on our times imaginable. Leave him alone and allow him to do his thing….We need actual truth-tellers more than ever…🙏🎭🇱🇷

If you don't like it don't buy a ticket. Who cares what these people think?

I just love the argument that people really want to be the thing they're criticizing or making fun of. Just say you're close minded and don't want to understand where the critic or comedian is coming from. There are so many legitimate reasons to be against the trans movement but no, we all just secretly want to be trans.

trans ideology has _so much_ power rn, making fun of it is punching up. and they really love to call people critical of trans stuff "obsessed", we're not so much obsessed as annoyed it's being shoved in our faces and changing out lives - like allowing men whatever they want of women's spaces and sports, etc.

Predictable. "Rheeeeeee!" Outrage being the cheapest anti-depressent there is, and a convenient dodge to avoid sorting your own sh*t. And of course the lefty puts a requirement that comedy must be a force for "activism" or else.

Douglas. The cleverest man I (wish) I knew.

I love hearing cringe worthy jokes.. They make you laugh in the face of adversity ..!

Some people are so literal and un imaginative… thank the lord for the guy in the middle…

Waiting for a Douglas Murray Uncensored show.

Humorless Priggs

James Barr is as funny as a lecture in modern monetary theory.

If you call that punching down its you that think those people are lower than you.

Seems some dislike inclusive comedy!

Gervais was taking the piss out of himself not disabled people

Douglas great host - prefer it when he is able to let rip and mercilessly devour his opposition panelists with his own views however

Ricky's my homie ✅👍 and a fellow Vegan, he just raised 2 million for Animal Rights 👉💯😁👈

@Breca

3 ай бұрын

Don't forget we humans have been here for 100,000 to 200,000 years only because we ate meat almost exclusively for most of it. I'm on Keto diet aiming for pure carnivore. Good luck with that vegan diet. I've done my research.

@English_Rose4

3 ай бұрын

@@Breca 😂 you don't need to tell me your problem 👉🤯💥

@Breca

3 ай бұрын

@@English_Rose4 That's not a problem luv facts. Your diet is outrageous...but hey have at er. We will see who has a problem in the long run.

@vmasing1965

3 ай бұрын

@@English_Rose4 Take a look in the mirror homie... You came here to preach to us, not the other way around. Little bit of self awareness never hurts, no?

Am I having a stroke? I’ve seen guests 2 and 4 before😂

I've heard Ricky make that same joke since the XFM days. Although I do like the addition

If activists have the social/political/corporate power to cancel Chapelle or Gervais for "punching down" you have to ask if down is the direction they were punching.

@vmasing1965

3 ай бұрын

Ok that was expertly worded. Cheers!

The irony I'm this comedy is that it is actually punching up. Yes, it is punching down too, but as a cancer survivor, I would love to have heard them do this with cancer patients. The hilarity is that the people offended by these jokes make pseudo-intellectual rants rather than acknowledging that they are the ones who are actially punching down.

Oof, when she says Dave Chappelle has done great things in comedy for people of color, that's just so silly. I'm a white lady and grew up in America, and my favorite movie as a kid was Robin Hood Men in Tights, because i loved Achoo. Chappelle Show came out when I was thirteen, and you know how much light and laughter it brought to my high school experience? I know i speak for millions of others, Chappelle's voice has been in our heads for years.

Leave comedians alone🙏🙏🙏they are funny I’ll take any topic as long as it’s funny and they are funny! You can’t take away the laughs

Dave and ricky going to have fun with these two

Sometimes a team must go back to the basics.. to regain what they have lost remembering the lessons of old and to strengthen the foundations and the framework

I respect that James had the balls to come on your show, since you completely obliterated him the last time you two were on together :D

I watched Armageddon recently. I’m personally an overt snowflake, but the world’s response to Oct 7th has shocked me well away from heading-towards-woke. So I watched Armageddon to test out my personal offence meter. I only felt REally sad about the Michael Jackson jokes…. Unlike a “roast” he can’t reply…. Other jokes were on the edge, but I made a conscious choice to let them go. R.G showed his compassion and humility at the start and end of the show, and I think he is genuine in acknowledging which themes need work. At the end of the day what’s left for me to consider, is how I personally react/engage if someone in a real life conversational setting speaks in these ways…..

Oh great we need a poll to what is permitted. Monty Python would never be permitted.

So unusual to see a civil duscussion with reasonable people on such a topic... Thanks to Ricky for making this happen😏

Who cares what this Paula thinks? What's she ever done besides complaining?

@f3aok

3 ай бұрын

That's the only reason she's there.

@vmasing1965

3 ай бұрын

A perfect caricature of a woke Karen, what's not to love!

Every time women open their mouths, they prove why they should keep quiet.

@vmasing1965

3 ай бұрын

Not all of them, to be fair but often it is so true that entire female sex should feel a shame...

These so called critics and activists wake up everyday looking for stuff to be offended by. It's like a junkie looking for a high

Douglas GREAT HOST 👍

Omg... I can't believe these people are obsessing over a joke. Like they went up to a sick kid and made fun of them... Smh. The people from England are ridiculous... Seriously ridiculous.

@f3aok

3 ай бұрын

People like that are a small but loudmouthed minority who get offended over everything. Ricky Gervais's popularity shows most aren't bothered about his jokes.

“Be funny” those jokes kill! Did you not hear the laughter

Use to be only conservative Christians and evangelicals would be sitting around criticizing comedy. WTF happened? And two of the 4 panelists were the finger wagging type. They'd make great evangelicals.

@vmasing1965

3 ай бұрын

Woke happened, the new religion that will convert you or else...

Love you Douglas ❤

Dear Douglas. You're a better man than I am. I couldn't stand those self-righteous &^%*$ people actually declaring what humor is "supposed" to be. Comedy is activism? Aaaaaagggghhhh!

@vmasing1965

3 ай бұрын

Nah, he was playing them like fiddles the whole time. And had fun while doing it.

@irvingthemagnificent

3 ай бұрын

@@vmasing1965 I believe you. I just don't think I could have done it.

If you’re pissing off the wokies , well done. Keep going.

Does not matter what you say, there is always someone that will be offended. Even their presence will be offensive to some. IGNORE these cancel culture vultures.

It's so funny to hear ppl pretending to explain how to be a comedian to Gervais and Chappelle 😂😂😂

If you open your mouth today someone will be offended. I love Ricky Gervais and he makes me laugh!

Why was Rubin the only one talking about the context of the jokes, which were both funnier than james barr calling dave chappel a closet trans

I recall a Carlin performance in which he made some jokes about suicide and a handful of patrons left mid-show. I was not personally offended but also didn't find those jokes particularly funny either. Needless to say, those jokes did not feature in his subsequent HBO special. I still think he was one of the best comedians I have seen. Some jokes are going to offend someone as comedians try to skirt that line between what is allowed to be said and what isn't. Sometimes it takes a lot of time and effort to find that right combination to make a joke funny to the largest group possible and sometimes the comic will miss the mark. And if you are going to enjoy most comedy, be prepared to be offended or to hear something offensive. If you are not okay with that there are hundreds of so-called "clean comedians" that will not burst any of your bubbles. Take "crowd work" for example (not my favourite but there are lot of comics who do that). Generally one or more people are being picked on. I am sure some of those people feel hurt and offended but it gets a laugh from the rest of the crowd (if the comic is any good of course). I don't recall ever hearing of a comic getting criticized for that unless the victim is also in some protected demographic.

I liked this video because I like your work, Mr. Murray, but I am putting this in the "wokehystericaldramasIdon'tgiveashitabout" bin.

Its amazing that the whole world has been convinced that words, sound waves, spoken or written, can actually hurt people. This is laughable really. Its about time that we started to teach children in schools that this is just nonsense. It begins there. YOU are responsible of your emotions and feelings and nobody else can upset you unless you are complicit. There is a reason we don't arm our military and police with a dictionary of hurty words.

If you cant take a joke you cant be woke

If the permanently offended are targeting them, they are doing very well.

"He's made amazing strides for people of color in comedy..." so... are we saying he's a great BLACK comedian, but not a great comedian?

@nothanks3236

3 ай бұрын

Acting like Dave Chappelle opened up comedy for black people, forgetting that Bill Cosby, Richard Pryor, and Sammie Davis Jr. were doing that 60 years ago.

@sjam1159

3 ай бұрын

@@nothanks3236What about Eddie Murphy?

@nothanks3236

3 ай бұрын

@@sjam1159 Eddie was about 20 years after, the guys I mentioned paved the way for guys like Eddie to come along in the late 70's/early 80's.

@vmasing1965

3 ай бұрын

No she was not even making that point. She's just repeating some obscure political slogan she has heard somewhere. It's just another NPC, there's no brain installed, it's no use trying to make sense of it...

I LOVE DOUGLAS!! 😍😍

Nah keep em up, they were both funny and much needed. Time to build some thick skin across the globe

Ahhh Paula, there’s nothing quite listening to nobody give their views on somebody.

In this era, comedy is no longer a laughing matter.

Dave is correct. Humor is tragedy multiplied by distance....some people have smaller distance.

It's all about whose ox is being gored. The left told conservatives for years if they don't like a certain show, change the channel. Don't like that billboard? Don't look at it. Now it's different because the left is offended. Tough darts.

How can anybody with an ounce of critical thinking even use the terms “punching up” and “punching down” in conversation? I reject those terms on their face, because of the implicit hierarchy. And not because I’m objecting to hierarchies per se. The terms imply that there’s a clearly defined hierarchy which every proper thinking person understands… which is of course ridiculous.

So the opposing panelists are a "comedian" nobody knows, and some woman who isn't a comedian.

I find it offensive to call James Barr a "comedian" and platforming him is dangerous for morons, because he might mislead them into his strange delusions.

These cowards just need something to be offended about, grow up! Ricky and Dave are hilarious

My dad has a friend whose son is paraplegic from a cliff diving accident. I've heard some great wheelchair jokes from him. Thats a laugh or cry scenario

I think Chappelle misspoke when he said that his duty was to be reckless. I think what he should have said was that a comedian should be fearless. They should be unafraid to poke the dragons in society and make us think about and laugh at some serious things. I think Rubin got it right when he said that in an hour set, a few jokes are going to fall flat, and that's part of the risk of being up in front of a crowd telling jokes to make people laugh, you can fail and fail often. Paula said that it's the comic's job to be funny, and the thing with being funny is you can't be safe, as the safe things you can say are often just not funny. As for the N-word, I saw a trio of comedians play out a scene in which one (who was black) was trying to collect on a debt from another (who was white). The third stood to the side just to say the N-word for the white comic when addressing the first in what could be considered common street language. It's tough to describe in a funny way, but it was funny and did highlight an issue over language in our society. It can be done, and it can be said that the whole bit was built around the use of a banned word.

Dougie's a very good host - more of him

Everything that I find offensive should be removed from public access.

@vmasing1965

3 ай бұрын

Like the period in the end. Dry British humour.