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I'm at the stage where I look at izotope updates like a new iPhone.
@Drfresh1402
17 күн бұрын
So useless and unreasonably expensive, right?
@ElFareh
16 күн бұрын
@@Drfresh1402 Not to mention overkill. Think the end user will pick up on the £500 worth of updates you've bought in the past 3 years? I'm on 10 standard, I bought it for midside distortion.
Weather is above 15C INSTANTLY GO OUTSIDE. love the netherlads XD
@sonicart1808
16 күн бұрын
😆 Same as the UK, except just the sight of the sunshine regardless of the temperature creates the same result (and some people appear with shorts on when it's around freezing) 🙄
I don’t remember Izotope updates being this expensive. I’ll wait for a Black Friday sale, hopefully.
RX's results get a lot better if you do small changes many times, rather than one big change. Try running a 3 dB cut 4 times instead of 1 12dB cut.
@marylewis3311
17 күн бұрын
That is a classic Photoshop technique too.
@jellewierda3828
16 күн бұрын
Have the same experience
Running RX10 for audio post production; although very important, don't think it's time to upgrade just yet..
@azbassclarinet
18 күн бұрын
Haha same here !
@frodo3556
16 күн бұрын
I'll probably wait for 12 or even 13, RX10 still serves me very well.
You need SpectraLayers😁😁😁
We might not need it, but we want it!
As a beta tester of RX11, i was very impressed with how receptive N.I.'s product team was to our opinions, critiques, and recommendations. The additions, in their full totality, are definitely worth the updgrade
@s1m0bg
17 күн бұрын
I never felt that RX updates are worth if you go from 9 to 10 or from 10 to 11. The money just don't worth the small changes they add. + almost every time I try the the new features, 90% of the time I just go back to spectral repair and us it for 80% of the tasks :D When I worked for an organization I was always with the latest versions (maybe this was the time I felt the new updates don't give me that much to worth the money, and the most of the new stuff is just a marketing assets for Izotope to show something "new") :D Right now the only reason I want to update from RX 8 is because RX8 is working under Rosetta and the performance is slightly slow :(
@JohnMarshall-NI
16 күн бұрын
Did none of the beta testers request full ARA support for DAWs that support it?
@groovedealerfeaturing-ashl6476
16 күн бұрын
@@JohnMarshall-NI Yep, i won't be updating and this is the main reason. I emailed their support several years ago about this and was told it's on its way.... still waiting several years later!!!! NOT GOOD NI!!!
@robertniessner554
14 күн бұрын
I wished any of the beta testers would made a feedback on the lack of abilities you get when working with selections... At least I wrote a long feedback list 5 or 6 years ago for some great improvements when working with selections, but neither RX8, nor RX 9 nor RX10 nor RX11 brought any quality of life improvements here. Still can't click several regions to quickly add them to a selection. Can't move a range selection locked to a frequency. This frustrates me every day while working.
Right now this is a hard "NO" for me. The upgrade costs vs. new features aren't worth it. Perhaps I'll reconsider on Black Friday.
329 euro special offer for a upgrade from 10 ADV to 11 ADV, that is still a lot.
@drrodopszin
17 күн бұрын
Drop the 3 and it would be reasonable.
@ArnfinnNilsen
9 күн бұрын
Yup..I have 10 adv and want to find a good reason to upgrade. A lot of money for sure. Still on the fence a bit longer...
For the lufs graph part: Reaper recently updated with a really cool feature, short or momentary graphs on the clips. Really useful for quickly getting an idea of the balance
I agree. I have RX 10, I use it to clean up studio dialogue and that's it. It already has the features I need. There's an arms race on stem separation software so why commit to something when there will be rapid improvement in that area in the short term? RX, while brilliant for so long, now seems too high-end in cost and specific in its feature set. Maybe i'm missing something? In which case I'm happy to wait until there's an obvious reason to buy. And of course next year when 12 comes out, they throw 11 at you for next to nothing such is their marketing practice.
Really great. I did upgrade. I am not sure I got my money's worth, but I am using RX10Adv to edit field audio, and it's working very very very well. Still will probably be working with the spectral forms down in the weeds for a lot of my noise reduction, but I'm finding your work with the bad mic in this vid very good. Je hebt me echt goed informiert, dank je wel. :)
Been using RX 8 for live recording work. The things you can do now to reduce mic bleed and get way better mixes are off the hook!
@BlazonStone
15 күн бұрын
Thats my prefered use too. But there's better stem splitters out there, even Moises still sounds better. Spectralayers seems to be way ahead. Lalai is a joke tho, stay away!
I don't know if you do it like a joke or you are just used to repeat that ending, but each time is harder to understand due to speed and probably forgetting to say the whole words.
I wish Go Pro just had an adapter for a mini xlr.. Good solve is attaching a Tascam DR60DMK to the Go Pro, but it is kinda big. Still a really small rig though.
Impressive but RX10 still works well for me. Maybe RX12 will be the time to upgrade. Maybe not. 🤷I do like that optimizer though!
@ThemFuzzyMonsters
6 күн бұрын
RX12 is probably 6 months away anyway. 😂
Updated to RX8 back then because of Music Rebalance - since then I checked every update, but there has never been a groundbreaking new feature added that would justify those upgrade prices...
Well, I can tell you this. I just upgraded, and I am blown away, especially around dialog isolate. Worth every penny.
Thank you!
Had RX6. Rebalance is a major new feature and works well, other features are similar, but ML has made major improvements in some cases. Right now there is a decent upgrade price from RX standard or advanced.
I'm still rocking RX7. Don't feel like paying again for the same software I already own and works fine.
Spectralayers Pro11 is going to Blown your Mind! STEMS ! Hint!
@ArnfinnNilsen
9 күн бұрын
Interesting. I have RX 10 adv. Have you experience from both products?
That's not enough new features to justify a new version. Those are just updates
@TroyFlaro
18 күн бұрын
PREACH!
I think I tried to convince you to upgrade a few years ago. I got nothing this time. I’m skipping this one too.
A mastering suggestion from Ozone 11 advanced is cool, although I mostly never accept any of it 😂 A repair "assistant" makes little sense to me though, if you don't know what to repair, you don't need to fix it.
Bro I’m still on Rx 7 I think 😂😂
Can you review stuff from Acon Digital? I think their audio repair tools sound better and are less intensive.
@chrislee8343
11 күн бұрын
I can't speak to their other software but the stems from RX11's music rebalance have way less artifacts than Acon Digital Remix, which is what I currently use for the same functions
I have RX9 standard . I mainly edit dialogue for video. With the latest Resolve 19 audio AI features. Im wondering if RX11 advanced is still worth it for me.
Holy Lewitt that does sound nice outside
I have a question for you, I need software to remove voice noises, sounds for creating Audio Narration for ACX to pass the RMS Audio guidelines. And I'm told that RX10 Standard is the right one. Does RX11 include everything RX 10 has and new or it has different products?
So rare to see you outside. Such bright skin.
can you do a video review on the APU Loudness Compressor i would love to hear your advice on it
I've got RX10 & was hoping and holding out for RX11 to see if it would at least match the abilities of Spectralayers 10, but the unmix on Spectralayers 10 is so much better.
Still no ARA support for DAWs that support it. Very little in terms of new features since about RX8. High upgrade pricing, and basically no incentive to spend the money. I can Crossgrade to Spectralayers 10 pro for the same price as the RX11 standard upgrade. Or grab Acon Digital's competing software. Both of their competitors support ARA. Not seeing the incentive to keep supporting iZotope.
They should have made the stem separation module a separate app years ago and leaned into that. Completely missed the boat.
I think you'd want to have an opinion from field recording dude and a TV post production dude to tell whether the tools is nice or not (in this instance). I think it's awesome. If you think it's too unnatural then you push back the slider of that unproccessed track, right?
@JanneAirDotCom
15 күн бұрын
Because not always the dialogue should sound like it was recorded in a perfectly insulated vacuum and I know you understand that. They're supposed to have flaws and the ambient sound is supposed to push trough.
Voice isolation comes also with logic pro.
I wonder when iZotope will get thier apps working on iPad? I've switched from using PC to iPad.
When RX can do what MAL does, I'll upgrade.
Ripx vs Rx11 in steams separations?
For cleaning dialogue, Supertone's Clear is way cheaper and surprisingly efficient
Since izotope and Native Instruments are one they completely lost the ground. I own all plugins latest versions and RX 10 Advanced and they offer me 350$ for a upgrade - seriously? sorry but for me this upgrade policy is unacceptable and need to boycott. For me this is a joke - esp. if you are a new customer you pay less .. sorry but … NO !
@ThemFuzzyMonsters
6 күн бұрын
Same here … maybe it will become more affordable in 6 months, just before the launch of RX12. 🙄
@zolahr
Күн бұрын
Just wait, your offer will come!
The adobe podcast tool (free) is better for this kind of work, the AI not clean your audio, it rebuild it itself with AI, its like vectorize your vocals. It means is not your voice anymore but you get a clean recording, for outdoors recordings its pretty good and I bet is not the same for music, but in the future who knows. Im an long time Izotope RX user of course.
WTF, where is the studio?!?!? …. Ok, now it fixed 😂
Yeah, the mediamod mic is WORSE than the built-in mics on the GoPro xD I only really use the Mediamod to get a line-in connection from my mixer when shooting guitar or drum videos for example
bro i agree with you. DAWs are so far behind. what about something that let's you physically morph the EQ of every track without having to load it on every single track and 1 by 1 fix stuff
Let’s be honest!) you was outside cause you are living in the Netherlands:) And these days were a quite sunny 🌞 Finally!) Hope all summer will be the same🫰🏻 Hello from Hoogeveen
You are at sound vision...
The new stem splitter in logic 11kinda works better from what i can tell so far
@jonytry
18 күн бұрын
did you try both?
@wootube
17 күн бұрын
I would love to see a comparison. Stem Splitter saved my ass with a live mix already. (So much snare bleed lol)
Was that Sandstorm by Darude? 9:44
The GoPro media mod, it’s a janky accessory with a few design flaws. I’ve got the one for the Hero 8, and it’s a pain to use sometimes. It feels hastily designed without much thought about practical usability. Typical GoPro they always release products that are not quite ready and that feel rushed.
@Whiteseastudio
18 күн бұрын
Try to get the SD card out of the gopro from it being in the media mod and you know enough about how bad it was designed…
The spectral RX editing tools are fine, but there are tools like dxRevive, Acon Dialog Extract, Goyo or Hush that work way, way, better than dialogue isolate. I was expecting a big update... but it has been somewhat disappointing.
I can hear somebody from GoPro crying from here
Could you remove drum bleed with AI? Like train it on the snare from the session that has no bleed and let the AI plugin gate it perfectly?
@Whiteseastudio
18 күн бұрын
There are other plugins for that, for instance Silencer by Black Salt Audio, or Smart:Gate by Sonible
@DreadedMetal
18 күн бұрын
@@Whiteseastudio I like silencer but when you're really trying to gate stupid tight it just isn't the right tool I don't think it does look ahead and it cuts off the transient. I've found that Pro G is better for that application.
@Studio22mix
17 күн бұрын
Try Sonnox Drum Gate 😊
6:40 LOL HAHAHAHAHAHAH
I'm still on RX 8 too. Not sure I see a compelling reason to upgrade either. I work in dialogue editing, and I don't get why they haven't made De-plosive better. I mean plosives stick out like a sore thumb in the spectrogram! Where are your neural networks on that one iZotope?! Interestingly, some previously Advanced features are now in Standard - so plenty of Advanced users don't need to be anymore..
@robertniessner554
14 күн бұрын
There are so many useful older tools in RX which could have been improved. On regard De-Plosive - I found the setting "Maintain Low Energy" as a very good starting point to remove plosives.
@AndyMaherVoicePro
13 күн бұрын
@@robertniessner554 Agreed. De-plosive does well with most low-level pops that live in the frequencies below the human voice. For those big accidental pops that can go up to 200-300Hz or higher though, I have to 'draw' them out in brush mode, which is as time consuming as it is simple.
@robertniessner554
13 күн бұрын
@@AndyMaherVoicePro Just an idea: Have you tried using the "Find similar event" tool?
Can you check out the new Spitfire AIR Studios Reverb reverb?
You've been able to do the loudness graph in reaper for at least 5 years using the SWS extension. The analyse loudness tool has an option to print the curves to automation lanes. It's not exactly perfect because your scale is obviously not specific to dB. I'm guessing it's just relative. The main thing it tells you is the shape of the lufs values over time. Which is basically what Rx is doing there. More importantly, it's free to reaper users.
it would be interesting to compare it to the adobe ai
I’m getting it just because you told me not to 🤷♂️
VST companies are following other big business models that also think THEY need to have yearly models like phones do, WE DON'T this should be simply patches or at most updates.... Getting sick of this shit that is everywhere now...
The surprising part for me is that it nulls out during the null test 😱
@jonytry
18 күн бұрын
true, I need to try it for myself
For a more accurate test with the stem splitter, you should load in a shit quality mp3. RX is gonna have a much easier time with a higher quality file (eg - 48k - 24bit), as opposed to a terrible one (128kbps - 320kbps mp3 if you're lucky). This is how most people are going to use this feature (at least from what I've seen)
A lot of people commenting on stem separation. I get why…but I don’t get why. What’s so important about having isolated music created by other people. Oh, I see why. 😂
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Sounds like you recorded your voice through a megaphone post processing with RX. Though I have had earlier versions of RX save recordings, I find the interface cumbersome and not always great results. My experience with RX 11 is about the same for extract, don't like the ammount of the artifacts. I find that most of the repair plugins have too many artifacts. I also don't like haveing to resort to the IZotope editor for full functionality of some of the plugins and the rendering time is glacial. Rebalance isn't fully functional as a plugin in Reaper but is ok in IZotope editor, it's slow even with an i9 based CPU and 64 gb RAM and I still hear artifacts. Unfortunately, it's still the best audio repair package out there.
Finally I extend my SSD Mac mini M1 256GB to 4TB without any integration in the box ;)
Can't understand why a M1 Mac mini is struggling to run one piece of Izotope software... It's hardly 'dated' tech. Why does it take so many resources to run?
@Whiteseastudio
18 күн бұрын
Its about time for an upgrade 😳
@jackflynn-oakley1937
18 күн бұрын
@@Whiteseastudio It's 4 years old, what If it was a MBPro m1?
the voice isolator makes you sounds like you are talking inside a box
I am finding that the RX11 new improved Music Rebalance is indeed better than the v10 version. It's separating those stems more cleanly, with far less chirping artifacts than earlier versions of RX . And the new Sensitivity knobs do indeed tweak your results for the better, if you experiment with them.
@FinnbogiRagnarRagnarsson
3 күн бұрын
I had the same feeling, in what I have seen. RX11 seems as good as Ripx in stem separation, Ripx stems even sound a bit tinnier in an example I saw, having some ambience missing.
You couldn’t have it learn your song before it exists, hence no plug-in doing this in real time
Bah!! You exist outside of that studio?? Terrifying thought. :)
Honestly I have RX7 and i'm not sure I would upgrade... Unless people here really confirm that the denoising,dialogue isolate, ai tolls, etc are better... I don't need more functionalities, I need these existing algorithms to get better and better at what they are already good at. Also, did someone compare the music stems separation (or music rebalance, etc) ouputs of RX10-11, Lastest LogicX release (11 ?), and Moses app ? Can consistant pattern can be drawn out of this comparaison ?
i'm still running rx 7 ...
mac mini m1 is your main studio computer?
@Whiteseastudio
18 күн бұрын
Yes
@snubdawg1386
18 күн бұрын
@@Whiteseastudio wow
@moveomusic
18 күн бұрын
we have the m1 mac mini for professional audio in my work too,.. yes, that is a little beast with an absolutely unbeatable price.. no Windows PC in this pricerange can do that job. The only reason why i bought a mac studio for my home was the physical slots and the bigger ssd in the standard version.
The thing sounds worse than the previous versions.
Comment for da algorithm Streak count: 240
@Whiteseastudio
18 күн бұрын
Almost at “a quarter thousand”
@beehype46and2
18 күн бұрын
@@Whiteseastudio that's gonna take a loong time until we hit the 1000
@Whiteseastudio
18 күн бұрын
I need to gear up video production?
@EagleEyez759
18 күн бұрын
@@Whiteseastudio Absolutely! Id love more video output
@beehype46and2
18 күн бұрын
@@Whiteseastudio Two videos daily! Nicht mehr, nicht weniger.
Are you actually still located in the Netherlands? You said the sun is shining...Did you move to LA?
@Whiteseastudio
12 күн бұрын
Hahaha, no it was a rare moment in the Netherlands
@monkmusic5994
12 күн бұрын
@@Whiteseastudio I am German and used to live in Rotterdam for 4 years. Lovely people. Greetings. You can move to sunny Germany when the land is under...😃
They’ve lost their lead on stems.(rebalance). FL, Logic, Serato are all options now. There’s no king. If I were N.I. I’d focus solely on making rebalance prefect. As best it could be.
RX Advanced upgrade from 10 to 11 is way too expensive for the features. It would be worth the current upgrade price if they have included AI partial reconstructed speech synthesis. Adobe is miles ahead here.
In comparison to Accentize dxRevive these RX tools for voice sounds like a joke. iZotope is waaaay behind the others. I'm still with RX8 and the next update will be Spectralayers. At least it has reasonable price what cannot be said about iZotope.
@EclecticaStudios
18 күн бұрын
dxReveve is amazing. I use it all day long everyday. Dialogue Isolate in RX is not even close.
@BattleAngelSound
18 күн бұрын
@@EclecticaStudios it's really a huge time-saver :) It saved me from many hours of laborious fixing very bad voiceovers. Waves Vx is also good.
@magnificentTVchannel
17 күн бұрын
Revive - I put it on nearly every vocal/narrative recording now.
I think so many of these companies are well-versed in planned obsolescence and feature-creep.
Elke plugin is useful zolang je weet hoe je het moet gebruiken. 'Nuff said
the Easter egg here: Apple's Mac Mini M1 at 16gb is already dated for new software.
@Whiteseastudio
18 күн бұрын
It is ☹️
@xaosm_os
18 күн бұрын
@@Whiteseastudio ::(( recently been super put off by apple, OK nice M123 etc chips but why are theoverall specs so dated (8-16gb & 256 gb storage base models) and so pricey... and pricier if you need a better machine by a lot, and storage and ram isnt even expensive anymore... it kinda became a scam.
@Studio22mix
17 күн бұрын
@@xaosm_os Any Apple device is always one update away from the trash can 🚮
EQ the dialog before rx processing and it will sound better
Watched til the end. I saw no utters with features.
Yep. Waste of time. Shame. I really want a good sfx rm tool. Reaver looks good, but it is still not there
I'm still on RX8 and I honestly didnt like the newer RX's. They seem like stuff you'd patch in as opposed to make a whole new version. But its Izotope I guess. 🤷♂️
Slightly misleading title. Like in War is over.....if you want it, you should add 'if you already have it'.
The iZotope upgrade policy is a scam. Have been a loyalty customer for many years... have been paying for any single upgrade/update at crazy costs. Not fair upgrade prices at all for long time users. This is enough, will stop trusting this company. Strongly disappointed, not happy at all.
RX is overrated in general. Yes they used to be the best but there are now many other tools that do a cleaner job with slightly less CPU usage such as Acon Digital and Accentize, to my ear most of their software does a better job. RX just happens to have a couple of modules that no one else does yet, those are the only times I reach for RX.
Izotope dead imho
@voinrima
18 күн бұрын
Panorama Mastering doesn't think so
@huberttorzewski
18 күн бұрын
Maybe not dead but they focused on making more and more money instead of providing the real value and useful features for their clients. Ozone mastering assistant gets worse with an each version - it's a total gimmick now doing random things to your audio. New modules do almost the same thing as the Stabilizer, the standard features don't get any better, they mainly work on the GUI to make it look pretty to make it seem like it sounds better when it's almost the same old plugin in a new skin
@audiomaniac97
18 күн бұрын
@@huberttorzewski that was my message izotope have not been doing anything worthy for 5 years or more and all izotope products are an attempt to sell the same book in a new cover
Not worth of buing. I'll stick wiff me 9.
Boris fx the way better
Dude, you should wear a t-shirt featuring the logo of every company you review in the video!
@cd3949
7 күн бұрын
Why?
@stefanobonzi2724
7 күн бұрын
Because it would be super ironic. His thing was “is it snake oil?” But he’s wearing the shirt of the Company he’s trashing to show support for them anyway. He’s wearing a NI shirt in this video but he’s not too convinced about the value of the product he’s testing. It’s just perfect.
Dialogue Isolate - worse than DxRevive Pro Music Rebalance - worse than free UVR5 ARA integration only in Logic and only via Rosetta emulation = a joke after NI released inferior Trash, it's not even surprising new RX 11 isn't any big step forward either -_-
@mycosys
18 күн бұрын
So youve tried RX11?
@GC-nd1lp
18 күн бұрын
I don't understand how rebalance is worse than UVR5. Can UVR spit stems like this and have them null against the original? Genuinely curious as I've never used UVR, but that doesn't seem to be a top-line feature.
@TazzSmk
17 күн бұрын
@@mycosys yes of course, trial was available from customer area for about week now
@TazzSmk
17 күн бұрын
@@GC-nd1lp yes it can, and can split to 6 stems
The Waves Clarity series is serious competition and extremely inexpensive compared to RX for dialog isolation
IYKYK Izotope has lost a lot of developers from their team and maybe why Rx11 and other new products aren’t really game changing anymore as they once were
Moises is still better than this sht