Hey Gacha Smack, love the content and the work you put into your craft. I greatly respect the fact that you did not try to downplay the seriousness of someone accusing another person of plagiarism (32:02) because yeah, it's not an overreaction when your career is on the line. And apologies about the image, I swear it was the first frame it landed on 😅

@jinwood

6 ай бұрын

Gj on the video man. It's great that more people know about you and your content. Next episode of warpless account when?

@hentaigals

6 ай бұрын

you literally could have taken that boi to court funny to think randoms dont understand how serious the situation could have been

@GachaSmack07

6 ай бұрын

Hey brother, first and foremost - Awesome content you presented! Truly easy to follow, nice trail of breadcrumbs, & a genuine vibe. The reason I weighed in on it, is because i saw that other people were not taking it as serious as it should be taken. I also understand how frustrating it can be to feel like you got done dirty and no justice is ever going to be given. It is important for other creators to share their nuanced and experienced perspective on these kind of situations to ensure the people involved are getting a fair shake. Happy you got a W out of this. God Speed brother.

@thesniper4778

6 ай бұрын

Keep going

@stylerxo3654

6 ай бұрын

I got you with your subscribe, bro

"Man, ya know man like It's probably about... 100% resist" is the most honest and hilarious example of how the gamer mind in general operates when it comes to feels crafting, lmao. relatable.

@polishpipebomb

6 ай бұрын

Also how is Azmon gonna catch a stray in all this somehow XD come on, man.

@draim1211

6 ай бұрын

@@polishpipebomb his chat probably will tell him to react to this. He played the game before, and he most likely will be around for the drama

@jinwood

6 ай бұрын

​@@draim1211would love to see Asmon react to this. He's not a cc for hsr so would love to hear what he have to say.

@sahilm483

6 ай бұрын

​@@jinwood The big dick energy himself is here guys... End of drama video: "It is what it is bois"

Artumbo didn't apologize because he felt bad but because he got caught on 4K. The video is still up and he's still earning money from them. He didn't feel any remorse during all those 4 months

@potatozef

6 ай бұрын

i think artumbo removed the vid tho

@legithuman5486

6 ай бұрын

he removed the video, it just took him a while. there are still probably more plagiarized videos up though

@pepsodon

6 ай бұрын

so his career is ded?

@marielgalicha8548

6 ай бұрын

Sadly, we don't know how many videos he plagiarized

@PersonaPrime

6 ай бұрын

@@potatozef He removed 1 video as a smokescreen. You think that was the only video he plagiarized? He literally admitted to doing this for 4 months.

Them apologies built like a Bailu heal, no cleanse in that thing.

lol that Mtashed "this changes everything" is very spot on.

I love how we all collectively agree that Nak is an absolute Gigachad

@ernestorio3550

6 ай бұрын

Nak is a rare breed who knows not to step on something that could bite him back had he react differently. This whole slander was heat that he do not wanna go deep in, but he made it public to everyone that there's nothing to be concerned so long as he and zmm are cool with it.

@neronoid

6 ай бұрын

He's just not socially inept like half these people seem to be. The lack of maturity from all parties is astounding LMAO

Nah cuz really put yourself in Zmm's shoes...He gets his biggest video stolen, lets it slide for 4 months and then Guoba comes out of left-field with a content stealing accusation on Zmm, whole time his best bro Artumbo ACTIVELY does that, while Guoba hasn't opened his mouth about it. I would be fuming, like ok bet, time to come out with what I was holding onto.

@SundayMatinee

6 ай бұрын

Same. But not only did Zmm come out swinging, he also made it amazingly entertaining. I was dying of laughter at some of his jokes. Truly talented.

@cinereus4670

6 ай бұрын

I completely agree that artumbo was in the wrong and guoba's comments were petty but they were seen by like 100 people at most, zmm was not wrong to defend himself but being nosy is not comparable to plagiarism

@Oclurat

6 ай бұрын

@@cinereus4670he actively accuses ZMM of plagiarism in a public channel, 100 people is enough to grow into 1000 and more just by talking about it. Accusing someone without evidence in a public channel for me is the same as plagiarism because both actions can lead to Zmm having a significant decrease of his revenue

@karonuva

6 ай бұрын

@@Oclurat Especially if this is a channel where a lot of diehards and possibly other content creators frequent, it doesn't need to be 1000 people seeing it, it just needs to be 1 person with enough reach.

@Guns-R-Us_

6 ай бұрын

completely agree, he tried to be pacifist but the internet didn't like that option so the only one left is going postal. Why I'm willing to let a lot of the more outlandish reaches slide, he has a right to go there since they had less evidence and went after him. At worst it's fair game and at best it's karma. zmm is completely in the right here even if some of the "conspiracy theories" don't actually hold water, Guoba quite literally asked for it. And this is coming from someone who sided with Guoba when he and Gacha Smack got into it last time, a stance I still don't regret considering I've seen several noobs get baited by his hype in particular and pull Ruan Mei thinking she's so much stronger than Bronya and Tingyun for hypercarry comps. Gacha Smack has done serious account damage to a lot of people who went all in on supports and don't really need more, and as a theorycrafter, it's been my job to help these people cook up something to get the job done and hopefully win some 50-50s to get the units they actually wanted. I've been working overtime fixing his fuckups on Reddit this past month, so I don't really blame Guoba for his comments back then because I'm basically in the same boat. If a no-life theorycrafter like me can see that Guoba is in the wrong this time around, I think it's gonna be hard for most to turn a blind eye here.

Drama aside, Guoba Certified is such a roastable name. First GachaSmack roasted him for being Guoba, now Zmm roasted him for being "Certified" lmao

@hgyuuuuhj098

6 ай бұрын

Still better than Ltone...

@ebc6970

6 ай бұрын

Made a smear on Guoba's name 😔 I like his pixel guoba art of the characters though, it's pretty cute and creative.

SMACKDADDYKING 🗣️🔥

@pothole9103

6 ай бұрын

@Saberdud

6 ай бұрын

whose mans is this

@OsamaBeenBallin56

6 ай бұрын

​@@Saberdud Mans*

@mizuro13

6 ай бұрын

Respectfully, it's it's it's just my opinion right my opinion, HOLYBACKREADING

@shoko_u

6 ай бұрын

@@OsamaBeenBallin56man* lmao

I love how every CC just starts off with 'hmm yea that might be a stretch' but as the evidence gets more damning they all just lose their shit at the sheer absurdity

@KamenNepper

6 ай бұрын

ngl i had the same thought when i first watched his vid. even high school kids rushing to finish an essay at 12 am can paraphrase sources better than artumbo lol

@DiamonDust

6 ай бұрын

@@KamenNepper Who are you even talking about, Zmm or Gacha? What is "paraphrasing sources" in this context? 🤔

@KamenNepper

6 ай бұрын

@@DiamonDust artumbo, the guy who copied zmm's script word-for-word down right to the made-up effect res, hence the lack of paraphrasing (aka plagiarism, something students often accidentally do). i was referring to zmm's vid since the original comment was talking about ppl's reaction to it. i'll edit my own for clarity.

@selimfirat

6 ай бұрын

​@@KamenNepper Goddamn your comment made me remember the lab reports I had to read. Students think they are very smart when they paraphrase, I know I did too. They know you copied each other, it is just too much unnecessary work to deal with it unless it is too egregious. The important thing with school reports is whether or not the students understand the gist of what they were supposed to learn. Obviously things change as your environment changes or as you climb the academic ladder, but if you really wanted to, you could still write papers and add little to nothing of value as a professor.

Plagiarism is not a joke. Zmm spent a significant time making his guides and now other people easily claim his hard-worked content as theirs. I’m glad Zmm spoke out against thieves and bullies.

@gabsjr

6 ай бұрын

@@beastmode2990bruh, artumbo literally stole his work. They didn’t came to the same conclusion, if you watch the video you’ll see that he stoled zmm guide. Even the misinformation in the zmm video, artumbo replicated. A point in a graphic means nothing, but when the points start to draw a line…

@omensoffate

6 ай бұрын

The problem is people in this day and age aren’t educated and don’t until what plagiarism actually is. Also in the digital age it’s a little harder to translate. I’m sure the plagiarism issue is rampant on KZread if people actually spent the time to compare videos.

@sadpandah7597

6 ай бұрын

@@beastmode2990 yeah its not stealing its called plagiarism, omfg what u talking about LMAO literally google before say something jfc man

@insxnemxnd3127

6 ай бұрын

​@beastmode2990 you're not wrong, I agree that taking inspiration or being influenced by somebody is part of life but how is that relevant to the current situation and why bring it up?

@chomosuke0720

6 ай бұрын

​@@beastmode2990It literally does not matter if people will come up with that stuff eventually; most people are not taking time and care to make original videos about it to financially support themselves. That is literally not the point they are making why are you people fixated on this

I watch HSR guides not because I need help, but because I enjoy getting perspectives from players who deal with formulas. I watch showcases because they're fun and I know it takes a lot of effort to get that perfect run. That said, I don't care how objective or fun a video is if I know it's coming from a snake. Done with those two channels. I'm completely unsurprised by all of this. I appreciate zmm finally standing up for himself. Man exhibited a classic case of "play stupid games, win stupid prizes."

Artumbo credited IWTL for his dps showdown or something idea But didn't credit smaller creators He 100% thinks he is better than them

@PixelNeoGamerPlays

6 ай бұрын

@SundayMatinee

6 ай бұрын

He also knew he'd get roasted by iWTL and iWTL's community. Artumbo thought he could just get away with it for smaller creators like Zmm.

@Ak-ik8tc

6 ай бұрын

@@SundayMatinee More like he wanted to use IWinToLose's name in his video to promote himself lmao But seriously, there are so many showdown type of videos out there I can't really imagine it being a problem even if he didn't credit IWTL. What he did with Zmm was completely different tho

Also hearing your take compared to pokkes is such a breathe of relief. He was saying ZMM is overreacting and it was honestly starting to annoy me along with his chat.

@jeaha2656

6 ай бұрын

He tried to downplay the severity of little bear “joke” even though it was disrespectful and he didn’t apologize to him up until it got public ,even tho nak told him it wasn’t stolen from him

@rainyyclouds

6 ай бұрын

I mean some people lack critical thinking skills, I was baffled by the amount of idiots in pokke's chat, I don't watch his streams constantly I just hop in there every once in a while and I thought his community would be smarter than that but they just couldn't grasp the situation properly, exacerbated by the fact that pokke was downplaying what guoba did and putting down zmm and saying he's overreacting, it's so fucking ridiculous, dude even invited guoba into a discord call right after to allow him to say his piece, which is all fine and dandy but he cut him some slack when I personally think guoba should be held just as accountable. smack explained it perfectly with the forest fire and this is why I prefer smack over other creators, the dude is a mentally well adjusted adult with a good life and can actually think for himself for a change, breath of fresh air

@nf7694

6 ай бұрын

Pokke thinks that way because he yoinks from CN all the time to build his brand/reputation/clout. As Smack describes it, 80% of content creators will post similar things, but it's the 20% that differentiates you from other content creators. He takes that 20% from CN to differentiate himself in the western space. He does credit them, but did he get permission to? Thing is, those bilibili creators probably don't know he even exists because they're on a different platform. He just leaves their links in the description and keeps farming their content on youtube. Infinite content glitch because they won't go after him.

@catteo2832

6 ай бұрын

Not surprised. Pokke's kind of a dick. He has some nice, informative stuff but he rips off of CN all the time. That's kind of how he's built his entire presence in the western HSR community

@jamess359

6 ай бұрын

Cite your sources. You don't need to ask for permission.

Guoba spearheading the HSR drama of 2024. Here we go

@justwithpaper

6 ай бұрын

For real. DramaCertified 2024 already feels like the standard for current year.

@akowkakaoakaowkaoakoaoa

6 ай бұрын

my guy can't even light a fire for me to cook in Genshin but instead capable of burning the whole HSR community in flames 😂 no hate for him tho, he handled his apology well

@SM-oc4rc

6 ай бұрын

@@akowkakaoakaowkaoakoaoa Yeah his apology video was good, he wasn't making excuses and not monetized.

@cloudstrife1541

6 ай бұрын

Guoba has an ego issue 100%

@ryanbouye

6 ай бұрын

Man needs to stop trying to be a anime character.

For those who say "Smack why are you watching and reacting to this drama?", I'd like to say that I for one appreciate that you are watching and reacting. Why? Because it's important for content creators in the community to weigh in on this topic of plagiarism (or in this case, content theft). As you said plainly in your reaction - this is a person's livelihood at stake. It is not acceptable for content creators to be slandered for content theft. And it's absolutely NOT acceptable to steal content. Thanks again for viewing this and reacting to it. I agree with everything you've said, except maybe being a little too harsh on Guoba but I know why you would be wary of him. He dialed into Pokke's reaction and seemed to be actually sorry, but the cynical would say he's just doing damage control. I'm on the fence - he's young and apparently not entirely in control of himself imo. Anyways, you always keep it real and I appreciate that from you.

@kokocute123

6 ай бұрын

well said, brother.

@StephenC555

6 ай бұрын

true, it's a drama but also more than a drama

@CalX705

6 ай бұрын

No need to explain bro, those who stupid will stay stupid if they want to be stupid themself. They didn't know what it's important n didn't want to know either, so explaining it is just not worth it.

@CalX705

6 ай бұрын

@@kyeda wht are u trying to say?

@ejs7861

6 ай бұрын

mr tectone, mr pokke, gachasmack and ........... more😂😂😂

I alrdy have huge respect for zmm for clearing moc 10 on an account without pulling. Making this public and even make it entertaining as well made me respect him even more lmao

@SundayMatinee

6 ай бұрын

Yep, not only did he come out swinging, he was also entertaining. Very talented.

Bro as soon as I saw the ping on discord I was like: "Ah shit, we all know what's boutta go down"

@OdysseyNaafiri

6 ай бұрын

Give it a month and the dusk will settle down 😂. This is purely engagement

Came here after watching Pokke's video, I think your take has been the best on this situation. I'm a bit disappointed that Pokke downplayed Guoba's role in this situation, but I guess at least that's one CC I'll pay less attention to from now on. From some of the comments I've seen, apparently there are Guoba-defenders who think starting plagiarism accusations in public forum can be easily dismissed as a joke. I do not think they understand the dynamics of the situation. The way you explicitly stated the situation was great and something those people need to realize.

@rainyyclouds

6 ай бұрын

fully agree with you, I would like to assume most of them are kids who don't understand the severity of plagiarism and taking other people's work as your own and not crediting them, smack has seriously been a breath of fresh air in this community compared to other creators when it comes to good takes haha

@karonuva

6 ай бұрын

It definitely makes ZERO sense to call it as a joke cause there was nothing in guobas comments to imply that it was one, he did the @, didn't present it as sarcasm, and when Zmm responded he didn't clarify and only did the condescending "backreading much?" like a petty gossiper at school getting caught

@brilliantgainful98

6 ай бұрын

joking about bomb will still get you in jail. Same concept can be applied here, so even though it's a joke it is still wrong

@stylerxo3654

6 ай бұрын

Mr Pokke has always had dogshit takes lmao. He downplayed Guoba's involvement because they're friends.

@huckleberryjam4975

6 ай бұрын

​@@stylerxo3654If we're gonna reach hard, you can also say that he doesn't have takes of his own.

Guoba def has a superiority complex, proper gets off on calling people out

@TheGreenerish

6 ай бұрын

couldnt have said it better myself. he gets treated like a celebrity in every discord server he walks into. he really thinks he's the shit and can say whatever he wants.

@Shokkolade

6 ай бұрын

also the fact that he constantly mentioned he's 'busy' in a previous drama with smack during the dm convo he had on discord with eango on the matter, like bro nobody cares if ur busy

@KamisatoElias

6 ай бұрын

He is really cringe and cowardly hides behind his computer screen

@paragonnight437

6 ай бұрын

Guys let not attribute to malice what is clearly stupidity. First drama sure was entirely his. This one was just him not thinking before commenting. He made a pretty good apology and, zmm, accepted it somewhat. I think in this case, Guoba, while wrong is not nearly as bad as the first situation. The real issue here is Artumbo

@gabrielmachia3784

6 ай бұрын

How does the guy that apologizes all the time and asks people not to harass the guy that made a dramatic 20 minutes video about him has a superiority complex? Dear lord, you people are way too f'ing sensitive. I think Guoba is way too passive for his own good.

Very true. Gouba is a snake that talks crap behind discord and still doesn't learn his mistakes. He says sorry and acted all sad on the Podcast Livestream (saying he will change blah blah) and then go back to discord to talk trash, which in this time around, could have ended someone channel =Aka Job. And we still gonna watch his videos cause... He makes good guides. Oh well 😩✋

Artumbo my guy got a 4 piece thief set equipped

@niwlwin

6 ай бұрын

lmao😂

Ignoring the issue (drama) will only let it grow, that's why brining awareness and addressing the issue first hand will end it sooner than pretending everything is jolly. I'm happy that you're watching this ❤

@MalixFarwin

6 ай бұрын

not really, people have short attention spans, remember the XQC react content drama.

Very much respect your perspective Smack as well as your intellectual takes while promoting integrity and adding a dash of humor. I watched Zmm's video here yesterday, then watched Tectone's reaction to this video as well. Now watching your take. Though i laughed historically each video, this is a serious issue that hopefully can be mitigated.

I appreciate you breaking down how serious accusations of content theft and plagiarism are because I don’t think people truly understand how someone’s entire professional career can be completely derailed by these claims.

When the game itself has less drama and CCs have more drama in them.. this is amazing!!! I love it!!! Shout out to Nak and Zmm.. your contents are amazing!!!

man, when i saw the drama, i already started wondering when will Gacha Smack make a video about it lol thanks for covering all the dramas, wouldnt be complete without ur 2 cents

Having your content stolen while also being accused of stealing content is quite the double whammy. If I were a creator, I would imagine that it would put me in a confused headspace and make me feel helpless; like reality has been turned upside down. I dont blame Zmm for it impacting him for a while, especially smaller creators like him who are experiencing the vitriol that online spaces can deliver. Everyone processes problems in their own way and at their own pace. I dont think it has anything to do with him needing to be more of a man. The idea that men should shun emotion and just "get over it" (meaning: dont actually address the root cause) is deeply rooted in humanity and especially American culture with detrimental outcomes to men. He did exactly that in the beginning, and it resulted in a months-long negative headspace. It took Zmm as long as it took him to process it, which is ok, and at the end of that road he produced a video standing up for himself. He did exactly what he needed to do and having community backing will go a long way in developing a thicker skin and the confidence to take action against BS in the future. Great points and good commentary all around.

I also thought the guoba thing was worse than some people think it is. Its not misspeaking or just a dumb comment. Its an accusation of plagiarism. The context to me made it seem like he was fishing for something to have on someone or drama rather than outright an accusation. He didnt view his comment as an accusation, after zmm responded he 100% SHOULD HAVE and said sorry immediately. He instead makes a condescending joke(british humor) and alright which is crazy.

Sadly content creators will benefit from viewers there for the content and not understand the shady behavior behind the scenes. Thank you for making me aware of two douche bags I’ll never watch personally

I do agree that he is only sorry because he was caught. I even made basically the same thought comment in gouba's apology video. He definitely knew what he was doing AND not admitting. Also, trying to escape his consequences during the call outs. I'm blown away that the people in the comment section telling him "we all make mistakes" bullshit. (I bet those comments are from minors)

If I had a $ for every time Guoba was involved in some drama I'd have 2$, which isn't much but it's depressing it happened twice in less than 9 months

@kaydude667

6 ай бұрын

I think you'd have $3

@kami761

6 ай бұрын

@@kaydude667 It only makes it worse

@jamess359

6 ай бұрын

You'd have way more than 2 dollars. There are PILES OF CASH behind closed doors that you aren't aware of. Little bear just cant keep his fingers off the damn keyboard

Brother, i'm glad you had the same reaction i did with the backreading comment. So many people keep saying it was obviously a joke but don't understand it being a joke IS THE PROBLEM. No shot you think it's cool in any circumstance to make a claim that serious in a public server, and then your only response is a "joke" about how he had to backread to find that post instead of just apologizing or atleast give some sort of proper reply (unless you think saying "Alright" suffices).

Some juicy drama right before a free 5 star. The tectone strays had me dead😂

Found you from learning about other previous guoba drama. First of all, you’re so funny, subbed! Second I’m disappointed that this seems to be a pattern of behavior for him, he doesn’t seem to think before he does things and it’s really sad. I’m sorry for the way he treated you too. :(

@justwithpaper

6 ай бұрын

Nah, Guoba knows what he's doing. That bear may be small but he certainly has a big ego.

19:25 "Bro unintentionally set a trap card that activates in his favor." Bruhhhhh 😂 The best description ever.

41:19, I loved the reaction of it 😂

You are so real. It's annoying that some people and even creators try to downplay the severity of it. People are so comfortable normalizing disingenuous behaviour on the internet nowadays.

Thank you for the content and videos even when you are feeling unwell. What a beast of a man. Get well, brother!

As soon as he said 100% rest, I knew that he was legit stealing.

i remember i needed a herta build guide about a week ago for pure fiction and noticed that brax didnt make one and thats my go to guy for guides and the only other guy i could find on that first page was guoba who did a guide on herta and i deadass just decided to read through pure fiction mechanics and herta mechanics and figured the build out myself (which i never do because im lazy). all because i cant stand listening to someone i have a poor opinion of. so no i dont think people will keep watching guoba and artumbo as much after this, at least not for a while.

As usual, you got some really good takes on a situation. The problem with plagiarism is something that really needs to be talked about publicly more (with proofs ofc). It's just that small creators probably often doubt that they can successfully defend themselves against bigger ones. But it's still the only right way to deal with it IMO - by calling this out, if it is carefully proven.

I’m so glad you made a video on this 😂😂😂😂😂 I was waiting patiently

GachaSmack your impression of haters/stans is actually the funniest 😂😂 Everytime you say "There's been alot of missinformation." I laugh instantly!

Great content as always! Keep up the good work, man. I always enjoy hearing your take on stuff.

This. This is why I follow and subscribe to your channel. Your raw, honest, incredibly sensible and articulate takes on not just game content, but also drama. Keep cooking! ❤

smack you were hella cooking in this vid too, great video loved hearing your thoughts on the whole situation

This is the real end game content!

These are symptoms of being chronically online. Sad little bear is playing this childish game again. He is talented and its evident he puts in the effort for his work. People need to learn, once the work is done, to step away from the keyboard and go touch grass.

That segment at the start LMFAO smack really is the 🐐

Now we know why little bear is so busy....busy running his damn mouth 😅

yesterday was the first time I understood what all that drama surrounding HSR was all about lol... this is entertaining

Thank you for reacting to this Smack. People seriously need education on internet etiquette in the content creation space. It's so easy to not see as a viewer how much blood sweat tears and TIME goes into making content ESPECIALLY when you discuss topics that require RESEARCH. So many of us smaller content creators are shot out the sky with things like Zmm's situation going on every day. The public eye is a dangerous place and it's terrifying to see people's livelihoods' weaponized like this willy nilly, ignorantly, and without fear. We all deserve to eat and thrive from making content.

Completely agree with you, Smack. Those apologies from Artumbo and Gouba are just last PR moves to save their a**. I only watched Artumbo's vid once, which was the QQ's guide, and that was such a great vid that made I play QQ better and she dealt fk tons of Dmg since then. It was disappointing to see not only him plagiarise but also DramaCertified falsely accusing Zmm without evidence. P.s: I am a Genshin veteran and I understand the general frame of building char in two games due to their similarity. When it comes to HSR's content, I 99% only watch your content, Smack because your 20% distinction that separates your guide/take and others, is the most valuable and unique knowledge to me.

I have hope for my friends who exhibit behaviour like guoba's and do the same mistake over and over. I hope they will better themselves and the same goes for MessedUpAgainCertified.

Cool of you to cover this, get the feeling he would of left it till he got called out in discord, zmm seems like a cool guy, your reactions are priceless, so funny xD

Man, I been MIA because I had no idea what this video was about haha. Good work on both ends!

That opening segment was gold

China is also literally in the future. The Asia server gets the update 8(?) Hours before NA so of course CN discovers everything first.

I’m a big advocate for giving credit. I’m a massive monster hunter fan as well and noticed a big content creator in the community basically just 1 for 1 copied another much smaller content creator’s video about 3 days after the original posting getting like triple the views of the original made me feel so disgusted when I figured it out. I haven’t watched that larger creator since then and i urge others to also not partake in their content either.

Totally agree with what you said. Both Artumbo and Guoba should face the consequences of their actions. You keep it real Smack.

Getting caught and facing consequences for one’s own actions can lead to genuine remorse for what they did as well. Many times people aren’t sorry until they get caught because they genuinely don’t understand the effect it had on others until that point. I know I’ve had times I did something that hurt someone, thought “yeah, I mean it was maybe a little wrong but nbd” and after being confronted realized “okay, this wasn’t a nbd thing, this was a big deal thing.” Even when there weren’t a lot of other consequences, I felt (and still feel) pretty bad about how I treated them, and I do try to be better about it. I mean if people couldn’t be genuinely sorry and learn and grow after getting caught, then how would it even be possible to raise and teach children? Of course there are some people that really don’t gaf about other people and only care about the consequences to them, but I think that’s far fewer people that are like that than most realize.

The switch up after context was given lol ❤ Imagine these big creators attacking you for no reason? This is just some petty shit.

Smack following the tectone legacy. Making a 20min video into a 1 hour long one. Respect

I agree with Guba not doing stellar things here. It's not making him look terrible, it is just not excusable. It goes way past miscommunication. One thing I want to add, he replies on his channel a lot on questions asked for advise. He is relatively big and I've seen smaller channels react less to requests for advise. Dude gave genuine advice on 4 different occasions to me in comments. I'm not defending him, I'm just saying for better or worse he reads a lot about this from people everywhere seemingly. Not just his channel but discord as well. I personally can't say anything bad about him. But we all gotta see if he learns from it and if his apology is worth a damn.

I already watched the Tectone video but im still gonna watch this whole video cause I LOVE DRAMA, DRAMA IS LIFE, DRAMA IS HAPPINESS.

Accusing a content creator of plagiarism definitely has negative effects, as you said. Artumbo has gone from 37.5k subscribers (as of when zmm recorded his video calling Artumbo out) down to 35.1k subscribers (as of me checking just now). So guoba accusing zmm of plagiarism definitely could've negatively affected him. Edit: To the people in the replies; True comparing one comment to a video with a bunch of evidence isn't all that fair, but as gachasmack said, there are a bunch of people who would just take that info at face value and spread it since putsothersjobsatjeopardycertified is such a high-caliber and trusted member in the starrail community. So the comparison doesn't really matter, as the comment could still have negatively impacted zmm and made him lose a lot of subscribers. Luckily, that isn't what happened.

@sweeleongng333

6 ай бұрын

Now is down to 35k

@cinereus4670

6 ай бұрын

it's not reasonable for 1 bad comment that reached maybe 100 people to be compared to an entire video essay with hard evidence, guoba likely lost clout if anything lol

@SM-oc4rc

6 ай бұрын

@@cinereus4670 Yeah and that's the reason adults think before speaking, especially when someone's or own's reputation is on the line. Now he looks like an idiot for jumping in pantsless to defend a plagiarist.

@mrdeafter

6 ай бұрын

20.5k active viewers is huge and it went down the drain lol

@hydreigon2709

6 ай бұрын

please, it was resolved in 5 minutes and it was on a 2000 member DC...

I've been waiting for this one!

Smack, I just got to say. YOU ARE SO BASED!! Great video.👍

When I watched Zmm’s video at 2 AM I already knew I’m gonna wake up to some entertainment

This is why I watch SmackDaddy videos 🔥 - Much Love ❤

Here I am watching this from 5 months since Smack reacted, Artumbo lost like 5k subs, sitting at 32k subs, and znm gain 32k subs, sitting at 50k subs

yo smack i loved your dr ratio lightcone guide, shit was incredibly helpful with prefarming

Zmm was one of my favorite creators of the year. I saw his work get stolen once i was like… okay… this is fine… when it happened twice… i mean bro…

Gacha goat dropping another gem

Artumbo and Guoba wont suffer for it tbh, because like you said, they make guides. As long as their guides on characters are factual content that don't steer you wrong and they remain high up in the algorithm when some random comes on yt and types in "Best Build X character HSR" and their guide comes up that's their livelihood secured right there. What's sad is people like Artumbo's guides force these smaller guys down the page on yt and I mean realistically how many guides does one person need to watch on a single character, 1 mainly, maybe 2 to see if there's any major contrast in opinions? So unless these smaller creators start going for guides for off-meta builds with titles like "Crit Kafka? Does it smash or pass?!" or " I built my Tank as a DMG dealer! 10,000,000 DMG later!" or something like that to carve niches, then without being credited by the bigger creator they don't get a chance to grow. Because the other thing in that space, is once you find a creator you like. You tend to go back. After you've looked up a few guides for different characters you tend to notice, this persons guide's are always good. I follow them, my character turns out great and that persons presentation/format is laid out in a way I understand and you get familiar with their style and personality so its just easier to watch their guides each time a new character comes out. So the chance that the people who've been watching these "pirate guides" so to speak, switch and watch someone else at this stage, slim.

@inarvii8181

6 ай бұрын

my thought exactly. I’m guessing most honkai players aren’t really in the theoryctaft space on yt. Without being subbed to creators like smack who talk about this stuff, most players wouldn’t even know that this drama is going on because they just look up guides

Artumbo just lost 2.3K subs and Lil bear only lost around 800-900 ish

@jeaha2656

6 ай бұрын

That is true but they also lost any potential subscribers like me. I didn’t subscribe to any of them, but I was open to do so, not after this though.

@po8883

6 ай бұрын

The consequences of doing shitty things LMAO

Already watched Mr.Pokke's reaction too. Can't wait to see what tectone is cooking

@xtiyan2250

6 ай бұрын

He already has watch it on his channel, it's entertaining too. Lol

@ABC-yj6cy

6 ай бұрын

Omg let's go!

Thanks for being a real one

Artumbo is such a loser for stealing peoples work. Even copying the wrong info haha An apology isnt good enough when youve done it so blatantly and shamelessly. And Lil Bear has some problems with social interactions lmao

The forest fire analogy is pretty good not gonna lie

Dude really read the captions in the vid, and just jacked it completely.

Lil bear cant ever keep to himself LMAO

Respect for you man for calling out and supporting him ..🙌🙌🙌

The Uncle Ruckus impression caught me off guard there for a second not gonna lie lol

A lot of people saying tectone is the one making drama and all that bullshit, for all I know this gouba guy is actively making more drama and even monetize on it.

@hitagi9558

6 ай бұрын

You're probably new to the Gacha community then. Genshin has had a lot of drama, and most, if not all of it is attributed to the dude. He and he's community pretty much made jinjinx quit genshin in 1.x and he's had a lot of run ins with smaller creators. And all of this are documented in his YT and Streams that are all, guess it, monetized. He invites people for "debates" on stream that turns into nothing but him not taking it seriously and his chat attacking the other dude. Dude even has a stint of drama in other Gachas before he became a Genshin CC.

@Mr_DE_0395

6 ай бұрын

@@hitagi9558 LMAO, you thought I'm clueless so you're now spitting bullshit ? There's always some clown like you isn't it ? You're expecting me to take your word for it and just go with it without doing any research ? Vod of evidence ? I was there kiddo, no matter what kind of bullshit shenanigan you think his attitude is, he has never let those "evidence" shown on vod, before you talking mad shit about someone or accusing them, at least provide evidence on your end, link or whatever the fuck you claim to have, instead of what you will say is to "go look for yourself, it's on the vod" bullshit. I'm not the the one accusing him, you are, so either you do that, or go to sleep, you mom might be mad.

@Daybit27

6 ай бұрын

​@@hitagi9558Dont forget his arknight arc. It was so bad he had to dip out

Kinda disappointed by all of this shit tbh It seems like guoba doesn't know how to stay away from drama for long and that's just bad for a content creator 💀

We should report these copycats and doublestandardcertified creators.

to be honest. I was not surprised at all. I knew guoba would do this again, I just didn't know when. idk if I am a bad person for thinking that. but in the end, I was right. I want you all's opinion. am I a bad person for not letting go of my suspicion of guoba after he made drama with gacha smack?

@skitzkat1699

6 ай бұрын

Sometimes gut feeling is always telling you something, whether you believe it or not

@siege_sensei

6 ай бұрын

I don't think so. someone who talks shit on discord all of the tine is bound to slip up repeatedly. It'll probably happen again (not by guoba's fault per se but this time it's all on him)

@Shokkolade

6 ай бұрын

nah ur good bro, i know guoba's type quite well, dude has one personality when in public and another more nastier personality in private. unfortunately a lot of ppl meatride their fave content creators and defend them to the tilt, some ppl need to realise idolising content creators isnt the play bcos not all of them are not as transparent or honest as they'd have u believe with their public persona. in guoba's case he def has an ego but he needs to realise his IP is being a guidemaker and thats it

@appleaj7381

6 ай бұрын

​@@Shokkoladeperfectly said, he has a good way of presenting himself online but is probably a douche offline

@treasure9342

6 ай бұрын

Uh idk, I thought the bear guy was a little idiot cause he's a kid so I thought he would do stupid things again

Excellent video GS!

Little bear doesn't know how not to stick his hands in everyone else's honey jars.

Our brother Kratos said it best. “Do not be sorry, be better.”

That bear probably not gonna let this slide so this will be entertaining 😂

1:00 best segment of the entire video "This changes everything when it changes nothing" 😂

Little bear is the worst thing ever cause of his too soon to act Nature ... I knowed he will do this shit again... Good thing I unsubscribe him 🙃

I only have time to watch up to now which is to 30:00 and man you have been speaking the truth. If I found out somebody been stealing my content I’m not shutting out for a couple of weeks I’m letting the community know right there and then. I’ll watch the rest of this vid when I have the time. Keep up the work Smack 💪🏽🫡

i was waiting for this!

The impressions in the beginning are killing me lmao

i swear Gacha Smack when i pause to laugh at a joke u make, I laugh even harder when i see the face ur making on the pause frame, cant watch a single video without catch one on accident

"My remembrance strategy" had me dying of laughter.