As a mod developer I was interested in the tooltips being associated with performance, so I did some digging. I tested each method (tooltips and no tooltips) under identical conditions, these being: -Post-ML gear -9 daggers and 1 frog -Same exact PC, world, character etc. -200 NPCs The only variable between the two was whether I was hovering over the tooltip. I then ran a performance profiler (JetBrains dotTrace) which allowed me to see what was taking up the most processing time in each tick. Here is what I found: Without the use of tooltips, the profiling duration was 14,195ms in length. 43% of this time (6164ms) is taken up entirely by the game playing sounds. With the use of tooltips, the profiling duration was 7,693ms in length. 12.83% of this time (1386ms) is taken up entirely by the game playing sounds. Considering this, it is apparent that the sounds take up a much larger segment of the tick when not using tooltips. Based on this, I can conclude that the performance change is not a placebo effect but is in fact very real (indeed, my frames went from ~40 to ~60 when using tooltips). This performance change is almost entirely caused by the game playing more sounds without the tooltips being active (alternatively, the sounds could also be being handled more efficiently while using tooltips, though this is less likely). This result surprised me a lot. I will do further digging as to the specific reason behind this and edit this comment to reflect it. Oh and thanks Mappy, I enjoyed the video.

@Killbayne

Жыл бұрын

this is really interesting, thanks for looking into it!

@HypercopeEmia

Жыл бұрын

then would turning off sound increase the performance even more?

@billymkj2763

Жыл бұрын

@@HypercopeEmia probably since the game doesnt have to register sound, but im not sure, i just think that would make sense

@aaaaaballs

Жыл бұрын

@@billymkj2763 i'm imagining that the game would still have to register the sound, just not output it. It seems over complicated or just seemingly unnecessary (even though it would definitely have a utility in this case) for a dev to completely stop the processing of sounds if the game is muted

@HypercopeEmia

Жыл бұрын

@@aaaaaballs yeah i think so too but then again opening the menu decreasing the amount of sounds played is also weird

From breaking bosses in one hit to breaking the economy one platinum a second.

@andrew6464

Жыл бұрын

Gotta keep up with that goblin tinkerer taking 1 platinum per second

@inferno7892

11 ай бұрын

1 plat man

@brawlstarsgamingv2312

10 ай бұрын

It's just to keep up with GT reforges

@sapienshalt2668

5 ай бұрын

@@andrew6464 yeah, this mf really wants 50 or more gold per reforge for an endgame item

After all these years.. We can finally use coin gun to its true potential

@Mr.Eivier

Жыл бұрын

UNLIMITED POOOWWWEEEERRRR

@diegoaguilar1954

Жыл бұрын

Omg, youre right 2nd best DPS weapon in the entire game can now finally be used thanks to this

@arstotzka6520

Жыл бұрын

coin gun is OP on journey mode

@AshenDust_

Жыл бұрын

@@arstotzka6520 everything is OP in journey mode, you can make yourself invincible

@ElectricSpectes

Жыл бұрын

@@AshenDust_ I play journey because it saves me time and I don’t use the god mode feature

I find it ironic the farm uses spiders to make money since there used to be a glitch where if they went from either on the wall or on the ground to the other, they would lose all the money they were holding onto

@frankmckenneth9254

Жыл бұрын

Aren't they converting to a new entity when they swap from wall - ground? Same with that one solar eclipse enemy, I always see em healing their entire HP bar when they swap.

@Triploon

Жыл бұрын

Build this to enact an elaborate revenge plan against the spiders who so viciously deleted players' fortunes from existence

@wailmerwithinternetaccess7934

Жыл бұрын

@@Triploon Dont forget how they spit on us to death. A murder attempt mixed with disrespect behavior

@godlyhax4172

Жыл бұрын

@Frank McKenneth they are all (or most) Wall and ground NPCs convert NPC types, becoming new NPCs.

@m4rcyonstation93

Жыл бұрын

its a bug

I had a look at decompiled source code, and I think I may have found the culprit of the lag when an item tooltip isn't being displayed, that being the state of Main.mouseText, which a bool for determining whether or not mouseover text is already visible. When it's false, there are expensive operations to handle rendering mouseover text on dropped items and NPCs (as mousing over NPCs displays their name and current health). There are 2 for loops in use, one for items (400 loops) and one for NPCs (200 loops), and you can quickly see why it might cause lag. This, of course, is expedited while using this farm due to all available NPC slots being filled and the coins constantly being created via the Lucky Coin. Since Main.mouseText is true when you're mousing over an item in the inventory, the expensive for loops are never iterated through, and there are therefore less calculations being done each frame, which obviously results in better performance. I don't think tooltip length has anything to do with the lag reduction, that may just be a placebo effect.

@chematdark

Жыл бұрын

Order of operations by the way is: Item tooltips get drawn, dropped item names get drawn (400 loops for active items only, breaks out of the loop when finding a result), NPC names and health get drawn (same as previous, but with 200 loops), and then finally sign text gets drawn (non-expensive operation, but since it's after the for loops it makes no difference) This does mean that mousing over the recluses would make it lag slightly less, but it's still better to draw an item tooltip instead.

@infiniteplanes5775

Жыл бұрын

Ah, clever!

@rajkanishu

Жыл бұрын

this needs to be pinned and get attention

@sapokee2830

Жыл бұрын

This is actually really cool, thanks for the explanation

@superwhatevergamin9634

Жыл бұрын

So in short, having a textbox open distracts the game from a bunch of background stuff. And this may be oversimplifying the hell outta it, but it sorta sounds like ADHD. All the random calculations are like racing thoughts, and the textbox is like something to stare at that the game can focus on to calm the mind. The coin farm is the fidget spinner, keeping the baddos occupied and doing stuff.

HappyDays in his current playthrough : I can milk you

@C0DY420

Жыл бұрын

Fr

@JonasSimp

Жыл бұрын

I forgot he existed 😨😨

@lucyzaw8968

Жыл бұрын

Why

@Starman062

Жыл бұрын

Man this definitely hasn’t been posted on every AFK money farm play through ever

@destroyer4929

Жыл бұрын

@@JonasSimp yea he stoped posting for a while

Finally, a reason to use what I consider to be the cutest minion in the game past the evil bosses.

@i_like_basset_hounds

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, the blades are super adorable!

@damnthisisabadname

Жыл бұрын

Hi purple haze

@cuddlecakes7153

Жыл бұрын

Desert Tiger Staff would like to have a word with you

@justseffstuff3308

Жыл бұрын

@@i_like_basset_hounds I know right?! It's weird but somehow they are- I guess anything that comes out of the Hallow kinda is :P

@rektdesu3577

Жыл бұрын

blade staff is the best! no matter the nerfs to whipstacking, i simply love this summon

I mean, it's still time consuming and pretty big in scale but... This doesn't seem that difficult to build once you get all the resources. As someone who builds 2-3 screen-wide farms per world, digging out some giant holes seems worth it for the insane money draw.

@cbotz3

Жыл бұрын

You can let me know if I'm missing out on something, but if someone is desperate enough to proceed with constructing an over-the-top, unnecessarily complicated money plantation contraption like the one in this video, and HAS the necessary means to do so, I can't help but ask... Do you REALLY need that much money? It all seems rather excessive to me. And if you truly do necessitate this colossal sum of Terraria currency... couldn't you simply spawn them in by cheating? I mean, if you're striving to uphold the legitimacy of it all... this system still exploits an in-game vulnerability regardless. Perhaps there's a third underlying reason that attracts people to exhibit such schizophrenic behavior within this sandbox game..

@cuddlecakes7153

Жыл бұрын

Yeah although OP enjoys building these (somehow), it's incredibly impractical in many different levels.

@mikaeluhl

Жыл бұрын

​@@cbotz3 coin gun my dude But I agree, it's awesome to look at crazy ideas like this and appreciate Mappy's creativity but I would just cheat the coins in if I really needed that much

@Nukles.

Жыл бұрын

@@cbotz3 it's fun to break the game

@TheFuzzyOcelot

Жыл бұрын

@@cbotz3 Because it's fun to go above and beyond. Sure, you can have an average amount of money to buy an average amount of things, but what if you could go all in and get inventories full of stuff at the drop of the hat just for the hell of it? I *could* just go out and grab a few truffle worms to fight Duke Fishron, or I can use my auto farms to quickly get 15 worms without moving and then kill all of the bosses they spawn with an over the top teleporter minecart contraption. Cheating defeats the point: it's more satisfying to do crazy over the top things when you know that you did it all by hand without any cheating tools (think of the difference between building a Minecraft mansion in creative mode vs. survival mode, the one in survival is much more impressive since resources aren't endless and you can't fly). Not understanding why people enjoy a game in a different manner from you is fine, but maybe don't call others "schizophrenic" because of that. It's a little rude.

It's very fitting that enemies who've picked up coins are used for the optimal coin farm... I love it

It's always a good day when mappy posts

@The_House_Always_Wins

Жыл бұрын

To bad those good days are few and far between

@omegaomega3

Жыл бұрын

what about crabbar

Ingenious idea, that's a hell of a farm. Be sure to take advantage of it while you can, because the lucky coin is getting mega nerfed in the next update due to these money farms

@ImMimicute

Жыл бұрын

Is that something you've heard or is it an assumption? Because these farms have been around for years, granted not to this level but certainly to "more money than you ever need" levels

@sorbetcafe

Жыл бұрын

@@ImMimicute That information came from Leinfors a few days before he passed, although I hadn't talked with him directly about it.

@ImMimicute

Жыл бұрын

@@sorbetcafe damn, well better get it done now before its gone forever then I guess, good looking out though, appreciate it

@CerealIs2Gud

Жыл бұрын

@@sorbetcafearent u the guy that killed duke fishron with nothing but paper airplanes?

@sorbetcafe

Жыл бұрын

@@CerealIs2Gud among other things, yes

This afk money farm is really ingenious! For those that enjoy pushing terraria's limits with complicated contraptions and really exploring all of terraria's mechanics, this is another great find! Cheers to you Mappygaming!

Another iconic MappyGaming video. I remember watching this channel years ago... and knowing the fact that I still watch these videos today make me smile.

thanks for the videos man, can't wait to see the second version of this farm when it comes out

Hilariously awesome, and not really any bigger or more complicated than the typical farms I build throughout my average world, so yeah... Will have to give this one a shot 😁

Good God man is there no end to your hunger for advancement

I love building farms like these, even if i don't use most of them most of the time, good video!

This is really cool, definitely gonna see if I can use this in a future playthrough on another channel.

i'm gonna be honest, wasn't expecting the 20+ minutes to be interesting, but i was wrong. great editing, and very well crafted video overall :D

Looking forward to the next video of this with the complicated but more effective farm ^^ I wonder how much money you can make once the farm is 100% optimized... 1 platinum per second is already unbelievable.

Thanks this actually gave me an idea for a base defense system with an enemy only pressure plate on top of a teleporter that connects to a lava Chamber

I love your videos, Mappy, amazing and informative as always!

Although I don’t think I’ll be using this in my own playthough, I still believe this is a fantastic video. The dedication, attention to detail, and sheer optimization, while expected from a Mappy video, is remarkable. As per usual, this video is polished to perfection and demonstrates the quality of MappyGaming. I hope this video, along with the channel, gets the praise it deserves. Well done and keep up the fantastic work! 👍🏻

Very nice. Thank you for making this video Mappy, now I can fully realize my Mr. Krabs playthrough of the game.

Thanks for sharing that awesome farm! Pretty sure ill try this one

I think the reason facing right helps with the frog is because it wants to be behind the player.

Very impressive ! I would have never thought to use coins for staking more enemies, props to you !

The presentation of data just for extreme tomfoolery is always astonishing in your videos how I wish you'd post more.

I did actually take the time to implement this pre-plantera in my master mode world. not actually too bad to set up and has made respecing for bosses immensely easier!

This is the kind of farm that you need to use once per character because it’s so over powered. Good job bro.

I gave building this a go recently. And oh my gosh it works. It was really easy to follow the schematics linked in the description, and the farm is as efficient as ever. I do actually need the amount of money this farm generates for reasons that no one needs to know about.

oh yay another upload i always love ya vids

9:50 the vampire frogs like staying behind you, and then when they go there, their AI says "ENEMY IN LINE OF SIGHT GO GO GO" and they attack, you have an opening on your left side so maybe that's why

@OryxTheMadGod3

Жыл бұрын

ENEMY SPOTTED *gunshot* TERRARIANS WIN

@CastCreator

Жыл бұрын

@@OryxTheMadGod3 it'd be more like aggressive licking but i'd rather picture gun violence

Absolutely beautiful intro btw its the best one I’ve ever seen

This actually helped me figure out why the coin icon on the map disappears when you get close; it’s just a marker for whatever enemy is holding those coins that lets its position be preserved while despawned.

I am honestly living for the shade Mappy throws in this video.

Did this guy just created himself the best AFK money farm for 100k views? He deserves much more, I’ll share this to my friends who are playing Terraria, you can do it too.

It's always a good day when MappyGaming uploads a video :)

great video, you made it really easy to understand too

It's always a good day when Mappy uploads

20% of the reason I like your channel is cause you use that hippo character as your mascot/persona. Keep it up.

Woah this is amazing!! Was thinking this mechanic might be useful, but could never get a working method out, that healing technique is ingenious! There's probably not a way to make a faster coin farm. But I'm gonna try! I might be able to beat you with a large world sized crystal shard farm- if my computer doesn't break.

No crabs were harmed in this video says you while clearly slaying millions of crabs outside the video lol

Personally, I wouldn't use an afk farm, but I find it interesting to see just how far the game can be pushed and the clever solutions people come up with. I don't understand what there is to "hate" about it really. It's a sandbox game, different people play for different reasons.

@jhxe

Жыл бұрын

I personally love these so-called "exploits" to me it's just an intended, but not expected, usage of mechanics. In Minecraft we have that Portal farming, or in Ark where you trap dinos with some Arks (touche), in No Man's Sky where you farm Nanites by abusing the teleport respawn. All of it are game-breaking but not a total exploit. It could be an exploit if it was used to topple over other people like in Multiplayer games, but these games are single-player games that has nothing to do with other people. So I agree with you on the non-understanding of the hate of these mechanics.

I barely play Terraria anymore. I just love these videos.

Nice, this is the first time i've seen a youtuber utilise the teleporting if monsters.

I made a very simple volcano money farm in calamity, that gets around a platinum coin every 6 seconds, with just having insane spawn rate in the underground astral biome where the enemies drop a few gold per kill, with the full setup you could get around 130 banners per night in the farm, so 6500 enemies killed in 12 minutes, or a little under 9 enemies killed per second. If I wanted to over engineer the farm to use hoiks it would be way more efficient, but as it is now it takes 1 to 2 hours to set up at the start of hardmode and gives more than enough money for a playthrough.

Right when I rembered they existed and start binging their videos again they upload once more, if only that happened for my other favorite youtubers

REALLY COOL! Thank you 😊

Quite literally a golden shower

@ayoitsvince2812

Жыл бұрын

🤨

@calamity4387

Жыл бұрын

Bro?

MUMBOOOOOOO! WHAT HAVE YOU DONE NOW! ‐Grian when he sees this

This Moomin is so good at breaking this game harder than anyone has ever broken it before

building this myself while looking at the schemattics reminds me of the time when i used to copy clash of clans bases from yters back in the day really fun to do

Nice video :)

never been this early to a mappy post, nice

One way to make this farm even more crazy is to also equip Lucky Coin upgrades, as their money-dropping effects stack. Also, disabling gore in options would probably help reduce the lag somewhat.

@MappyGaming387

Жыл бұрын

Nope, they don't stack. Checked it in-game just to be 100% sure.

this man always finds a way to make me feel bad about my terraria knowledge😭

Wow you farmed as much money as my luiafk boosted spawnrate gave when i had post supreme calamitas summoner gear and a vacuum potion. You did that in vanilla. I am awestruck.

He's at it again

Sometimes you wonder if we are playing the same terraria?

Thank you~! This is helpful in saving me sanity.

since this is doable pre-mech, I can only imagine that anyone fortunate enough to get a coin gun in their playthrough will make good use of it...

Been a while, I rlly should play this game again, don't think I've touched it in years

The level of thoroughness and dedication has made me an instant fan.🎉

Upload? alright, who- Mappy? HELL FUCKING YEAH

If you want to make it as efficient as possible just use a lucky coin and a blade staff, preferably with a bad modifier like broken to maximize hits (also blade staff is the fastest attacking summon weapon and has no immunity frames)

Amazing design! But one question, what is the 1 block of conveyor belt for? I tried building the design in my world pre mech bosses so i don't have steampunker. Naturally then i omitted the conveyor and it works somewhat well, sometimes when i teleport into the farm i get 1 shot by the spiders (i guess i don't get to have immunity frames lol) Does the conveyor belt help get the spiders into the right position AFTER the teleport? Or do they teleport on a fixed position? Cause it seems they are able to be teleported without it and i don't know what causes the spiders to sometimes hit me.

This seems like something that might happen in the terraria veterans series on gromek’s channel

@flopsnail4750

Жыл бұрын

Fr

Anyone know the music used in the history section and outro? It sounds very familiar... Good vid mappy. Keep it up.

If there were a terraria Mount Rushmore, Mappy would be on it for sure.

Taking "Gotta spend money to make money" to the extreme

Lets go hes back

Doidera, real, o cara quebra o jogo sempre

this man almost never post and yet his posts are the best

Wow, that's amazing! Sorry for the possibly trivial question, does it work for 1.4.3 (the latest tModLoader version)?

@NotSnak

Жыл бұрын

The dangerous spider walls dont exist in 1.4.3 bc of no shimmer but if you have a mod that has unsafe spider walls then id imagine it works?

@MappyGaming387

Жыл бұрын

1.4.3 doesn't have infested spider walls so you'd have to use other mobs (also means different mob farm design) but yes, for concept wise it can be done in 1.4.3. I would make a mob farm inside the jungle temple and use Lihzahrds instead. That would make the farm post-golem but meh.

Your lust for perfection appears unquenchable.

This looks amazing for the coin gun

Idk why but in my normal playthroughs I've always found that just having the inventory open will reduce lag so I often end up just having it open all the time, sometimes without realizing it

This is so cool I know I'm a bit late but also it Looks like your older horseman sword farm dose not have downloads I would love to see a all event farm or close to it in 1.4 master mode or the link to download the old one.

our legend is back and richer than before

That's cool and all, but remember the rubblemaker still can't place the amazing oasis bushes/cacti rubble, or the corrupted counterparts. Re-Logic just sort of forgot about them, (Other bushes such as jungle and grass bushes can be placed.) and they'd be amazing for builders, there's even an eyeball bush! The Rubblemaker is incomplete without this function, so lets let Re-Logic know.

@jcdenton6427

Жыл бұрын

Completely forgot about rubblemaker, this item is goated

@schmingbeefin4473

Жыл бұрын

@@jcdenton6427 Would be 100% perfect if we could place oasis plants! All the cacti and the crimson bushes are so cool.

@jcdenton6427

Жыл бұрын

@@schmingbeefin4473 agree, new crimson/corruption walls and decorations added in 1.4 look amazing. Had a lot of ideas to make abandoned lab with this staff but it all was procrastinated into nothing.

Thank you for the infinite ammo farm for my coin gun, bless you 😇

Following steps needs a clear easier fix for newbies if the respawn randomly kills, especially if teleports with purple interfere timing with green cutting efficiency and risk of recalibration money farm

Haven’t seen you in so long

Perfect video, as always!

I swear, you are a goddamn genius. Like, how does one even find some of these things out?

finally, a way to use the coin gun to its fullest extent in a “practical” manner (i say that in quotes because for a casual player this farm is far from practical lol but then again a casual player wouldnt even farm for the coin gun much less use it)

6:25 I like how the recluses are being yeeted

Cant wait for the extra optimal money farm with the stardust guardian and dragon thatll generate 1.7 plat a second!

@WawaCatEnjoyers

Жыл бұрын

I found you imposter

this farm made me consider doing a coin gun only playthrough.

watching the time vs the money is like watching gas and money at costco

Hi Mappy! I have a quick question: Why we should build the farms 500 Blocks away from each other? U mencioned that 253 are a enought distance but the large numer of 500 seems quiet weird tbh

Now with weapons stacking. Its gonna be crazy farming things.

The fact that this farm can be improved is scary

Finally he is bacc

just curious if the tooltip is hiding the partials reduces lag would a more zoomed in camera affect the lag as the tooltip would cover more particles? or if it was on the right side of the inventory again to cover more of the particles?

this is why I love terraria

Are you planning on doing a video on the newly discovered item transmutation glitches?

Finally, I can afford the goblin tinkerer’s reforges

This feels like the pinnacle of money farms... but I'm aware I can't say that yet. I will first wait for 1.4.5 and its "money spiders" because of course Re-Logic will make something unique