"Don't do anything I wouldn't do." "You can trust me Minister." Plausble deniability in action.

@danieldickson8591

Жыл бұрын

At this point Humphrey knows exactly what Hacker would do.

@EK-gr9gd

Жыл бұрын

Before becoming an MP and Minister of the Crown Hacker was a journalist.

"Oh, look...a park!" like seeing a birthday cake before cutting it.

@cobbler9113

2 жыл бұрын

I prefer the bit when Sir Humphrey talks about the the press getting hold of a copy due to the large quantity of them and Hacker going “oh dear!”. Still hilarious though 😄

@thesmithersy

2 жыл бұрын

Or David Horton looking through the Bible for a passage to justify him not spending money to get a local bus service for Dibley.

@paulwalker3758

2 жыл бұрын

I read the rest of that sentence in Hackers voice too 😆

@ciaranhagen

Жыл бұрын

I know this comment is old, but it made me laugh like a honking goose.

@szahmad2416

Жыл бұрын

@@ciaranhagen thank you, sir!

O'.... look a park.....That line deserves a nobel prize in comedy writing if there ever was one set up.

I love how Jim knows exactly where to hit the PM; right in the constituency.

@janickpauwels3792

2 жыл бұрын

That's how the EU does it as well. If there is a trade war, the EU does not impose tariffs on big important products. Instead, they have a look at the companies that have an influence on the policy makers, and target their products instead. No big impact, but it piles a lot of pressure on those politicians.

@danieldickson8591

Жыл бұрын

Hacker's fussy, distracted manner often led one to underestimate his shark-like political instincts.

@samsara836

Жыл бұрын

@@danieldickson8591 As Sir Humphrey himself puts it, Hacker does have "the killer instinct".

@rarajiboo

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

Humphrey is sooooo proud. It's like seeing your toddler riding his tricycle. :)

@MLaak86

2 жыл бұрын

Heck, he's even surprised by how ruthless Hacker is being to make damn sure this proposal is shot down.

@applejuice5272

Жыл бұрын

I reversed my tricycle into our pond - my mum was greeted by the sight of a sopping wet toddler on the back doorstep!

@DrCruel

9 ай бұрын

@@applejuice5272 Yes ... Hacker does that often enough as well.

Sir Humphrey and Jim working together for once... an unstoppable team. Bernard looking on in awe... and learning how it is done. Derek Fowldes passed away the other day. The last survivor of this dream team. Sadly missed... all of them.

@SamvedIyer

3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately yes. But perhaps the greatest genius of them on, Sir Arnold Robinson, continues to live on in our world in the form of John Nettleton at the age of 92.

@gbalaji2023

3 жыл бұрын

@@SamvedIyer Diana Hoddinott who played Annie Hacker is alive and may be Neil Fitzwiliam who played weasel sorry Weisel

@nkt1

2 жыл бұрын

@@gbalaji2023 Fitzwilliam may well still be alive, but he suffered brain damage in a car accident over 30 years ago.

@Leonf123

2 жыл бұрын

Peter cellier i think is alive too (sir frank)

@danieldickson8591

Жыл бұрын

@@SamvedIyer But this was one occasion when Humphrey and Hacker united to beat even Sir Arnold.

"Oh look a park" I died lol

@Rikard_A

4 жыл бұрын

Let's ruin it.

@PriVateJoe7

4 жыл бұрын

*apalled groan*

@Anna_65

4 жыл бұрын

I've replayed that part at least 40 times now, but I'm still laughing.

@anuradhajoshi7389

3 жыл бұрын

In India we had a political satire movie in 1982 They actually plan a skyscraper by removing a Christian cemetery

@ahmedamine24

3 жыл бұрын

@@anuradhajoshi7389 Was it mostly Britons buried there?

I don't know what's scarier : when those two argue, or when they work together...

@Andrew81au1

4 жыл бұрын

About the same i think

@TheNefastor

4 жыл бұрын

@@Andrew81au1 LOL you're right !

@slossboss

4 жыл бұрын

Definitely when they work together. It's not as bad when things don't change. That's normal. When things change, that's when people are affected...

@ransherman1611

3 жыл бұрын

well, when they argue nothing is achieved. when they work together they are virtually unstoppable. you do the math.

@tavernburner3066

3 жыл бұрын

This is government in a nutshell.

Some of the funniest bits are when Hacker and Humphrey are on the same side for a change.

One of my literature professors at uni told us how surprised she was about students missing the obvious sarcasm and irony in one book we were reading, and I can't help but think that watching Yes, Minister has given me an unfair advantage.

@irix5093

2 жыл бұрын

What book could it be?

@musmus-culus

2 жыл бұрын

@@irix5093 It was Joseph Conrad's Heart of Darkness

@theKobus

2 жыл бұрын

@@musmus-culus Missing Conrad's sarcasm is a pretty widespread problem. Maybe we ought to teach "Secret Agent" instead for a few years, I feel like that's got Gen Z relevance

@NYKevin100

Жыл бұрын

@@musmus-culus To be fair, it's a rather difficult book for a modern audience, although I would expect college students to be old enough to get through it. But IIRC I read it in high school and could barely understand what was going on.

I love this scene so much. It starts off with the usual rather caustic interchange between the two of them, right up until 0:44, when Sir Humphrey cottons on to what Jim is planning and realises that it could be a beautiful triumph of Machiavellian scheming. Watching the two men riffing as they find more and more outlandish ways to make the new transport policy unappealing is an unalloyed joy, especially where they feign concerns about what they are planning. It's sad that we don't get this kind of comedy writing any more.

@davidelliott5843

4 жыл бұрын

Pressing the nuclear button and education are favourites of mine though to be fair there was never a single bad episode of Yes (Prime) Minister.

@JohanHerrenberg

4 жыл бұрын

Genius doesn't occur too often.

@derekstuart5234

3 жыл бұрын

Or alternatively, despite the wonderful overview and summary from leopold, one could actually watch it for oneself.

@odysseusrex5908

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidelliott5843 My all time favorite is Who Reads the Papers.

@MLaak86

2 жыл бұрын

Humphrey in fact at some points seems taken aback at how ruthless Hacker is willing to be to make this utterly unacceptable

That's exactly how I play SimCity

@ShowToSpeak

4 жыл бұрын

YES YES YES

@ShowToSpeak

4 жыл бұрын

Unbelievable. I remember playing the Simcity 2000 edition when I was watching this.

@Dayvit78

4 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't it be great if SimCity had an actual political system?

@dalemrgh1819

4 жыл бұрын

@@Dayvit78 You mean every time you try to do something, you get a message why it cant be done, while the AI plays the game by itself all the time?

@Dayvit78

4 жыл бұрын

@@dalemrgh1819 I don't understand? I meant, having elections with different voting patterns in your city. Basically, like Tropico, but for a 1st world country.

And Hacker wondered why the PM called him Two-Faced in his memoirs. :D

@jonathanfraser321

3 жыл бұрын

Abe Lincoln , no less, was once accused of being 2faced. He replied if that were true do you think I would have chosen this one-something for Biden to use against trump!

The writing in this series is brilliant.

@Jide-bq9yf

5 жыл бұрын

PointyTailofSatan surreal.

@veroniquendambo3242

4 жыл бұрын

Indeed!

@JohanHerrenberg

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, genius level.

@mccobsta

3 жыл бұрын

Possibley one of the best things the bbc has done in a long time

I honestly wish our government was this intellectual, informed and organised.

"Buses to cease at 6:30" They are describing Shropshire beautifully.

@haloharry97

4 жыл бұрын

same for Lincolnshire stupid as hell, most working ppl need a car to get home after work and yet they want more ppl to take public transport.

@barbarajoseph-adam8337

4 жыл бұрын

Kru Ploppy Dorset? Hm, never heard of it - is it anywhere near Wessex? Also, buses isn’t a thing that ever actually existed; it was only a concept drawing of Leonardo da Vinci's, sorta like his helicopter drawing except in this case it never materialised. Although now that I think about it, there was mention of a soup-powered multi-person vehicle called ‘avtoboos’ (after the Russian “автобус”, I imagine) in a low-rent steampunk novel I once read. Can’t recall the title, unfortunately.

@wheeliebin18

4 жыл бұрын

Everything ends at 6.30pm in Shropshire!

@jameswhite8612

3 жыл бұрын

Well just anywhere outside the M25 really

@sabrinamurray1792

3 жыл бұрын

I used to live in shropshire in 2008/2009 and I can attest that the bus timetables for the villages were terrible even back then

Thirty years on, Britain still awaits a national transport policy. I wonder why?

@CaptainK011

2 жыл бұрын

Because you don't have transport supremo? 😁

@sailormanoyster1849

2 жыл бұрын

It works in the Netherlands. Attain arrives in a station and bless me thee is a bus waiting

@sailormanoyster1849

2 жыл бұрын

They haven't asked the Dutch how to do it

@danieldickson8591

Жыл бұрын

@@sailormanoyster1849 It is a British democracy, after all. 😉

@stuartauld3193

8 ай бұрын

Sir Humphreys

All aspiring actors should watch YM & YPM over and over. Every scene is a masterclass on how to act. This is the gold standard.

Derek Fowlds, started off as Basil Brush's sidekick and ended up as one of Britains best loved actors. R.I.P.

@klaudheath2665

4 жыл бұрын

Blackbrooke boom boom

this series is a great example of writers who actually understand the particular subject they are writing about. If only more movie and TV sci-fi was equally written by experts in science.

@florinivan6907

3 жыл бұрын

Of course they're also good at making jokes. You can be an expert at something and lack the ability to joke(in fact most experts lack an effective sense of humor).

@dubey_ji

2 жыл бұрын

If science guys write science fiction it would be boring trust me on this one

@PointyTailofSatan

2 жыл бұрын

@@dubey_ji You haven't read a lot of Arthur C Clarke.

@koenven7012

2 жыл бұрын

They had people on the inside who told them stories. In fact, most of their stories either really happened or were extrapolations of things that happened. For some they even wondered if the public would believe it could happen even though it did (like the booze in the communications room).

@dubey_ji

2 жыл бұрын

@@PointyTailofSatan I have come to my senses I was wrong .

You wonder if the British government and civil service use this series as an instruction book of how to do it.....

@idealicfool

4 жыл бұрын

This series is based entirely as a form of satire commentary on exactly how the government and the civil service operate

@db417

4 жыл бұрын

Margaret Thatcher called this series a documentary.

@lucianfrostbane

4 жыл бұрын

@@db417 she would

@richardlloyd2589

4 жыл бұрын

As the other commentators have noted, very much the other way around.

@thermidor5975

4 жыл бұрын

Apparently it has led to a huge increase in the power of political "advisers" (like Dominic Cummings), because thanks to "Yes Minister", politicians don't trust the Civil Service any more and have shredded the power of "mandarins" like Sir Humphrey.

Hacker was a boob in some ways, but his instincts for manipulating the media and crafting public appearances were very sharp. And when combined with Humphrey's deep understanding of the mechanisms of government, when they worked together they were nearly unbeatable.

This could’ve been written yesterday.

@mscott3918

4 жыл бұрын

It could all have been written any time.

@francesbecker1755

4 жыл бұрын

or tomorrow

@ThePamastymui

4 жыл бұрын

@@francesbecker1755 2235 KZread algorithm recommended it to the public video list in the constituency where it was happining. After a good laugh there were riots. After riots we drank tea.

@mass8175

3 жыл бұрын

Or yesterday

@Jacqueline_Thijsen

Жыл бұрын

Nah, way too civilized. These days it's more like "The New Statesman."

More often than not, Jim and Humphrey are at loggerheads trying to out-manoeuvre each other in their own self interest. But when they find themselves on the same side, watching their combined machiavellianism is a delight. Until one realises that this actually happens in politics, and then one curses the swines for holding us back for all these years...

@ajkhan1115

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. Fuck politicians.

"Do you mean we plural or do supremos now use the royal pronoun?" lol

@ericboxer3053

11 ай бұрын

In 2023 all these white men would be replaced with 240 pound black they/them scumbags

This has never dated for me. Absolutely brilliantly written and performed.

@MLaak86

Жыл бұрын

That’s the true brilliance of the writers’ insight into West Minster Politics, it’s as true now as it was when it was written and will continue to be for decades to come

@jameskvo

11 ай бұрын

YM and YPM are timeless, as is human nature and the intoxicant of power

This is why hacker became prime minister.

@barbarajoseph-adam8337

4 жыл бұрын

He... HACKED teh elekshon! (Please ecuse me)

@walesdoesntsuck6635

4 жыл бұрын

@@barbarajoseph-adam8337 You're excused

@ajkhan1115

2 жыл бұрын

@@walesdoesntsuck6635 I agree. That pun wasn't the best of puns, but it was not too shabby either.

An absolutely genius and brilliantly acted scene. Yes Minister (and its successor, Yes Prime Minister) were absolutely brilliant and still very relevant!

This is gold! I love it when they unite over something. Acting is beyond belief. World class performance right here!

One of the best scenes in one of the best episodes of one of the best TV series anyone ever put together.

@drmamdooh99

4 жыл бұрын

Tru dat!!!!

Humphrey is about to cry he's so proud.

I love how Sir Humphrey is always deceiving and scheming. He caught on to the Hacker's plan immediately.

@AzguardMike

3 жыл бұрын

He probably already had a scheme in mind, hence why he was already having dinner with the editor of the paper.

@MLaak86

Жыл бұрын

Heck this is one of the few times he seems genuinely taken aback by Hacker’s political instincts given his moments of surprise if not shock at what Jim suggests

Bernard is amazing without saying a word.

It’s always a joy to watch great actors at work. Perfect craftsmanship

My favourite line "Oh look a Park " 😂😂

Sir Humphrey is my spirit animal

@robertusaugustus2003

5 жыл бұрын

Hans Gruber Love how Hans Gruber says this

@barbarajoseph-adam8337

4 жыл бұрын

Mr. Beetleman And in the late great Alan Rickman’s voice too, whom I miss as much as I miss these three brilliant actors! *sobs brokenly*

@woodfreak814

4 жыл бұрын

I have used his rhetoric, so many times. It just befuddles people.....not to mention me. I adore the whole series.

It's incredibly funny to see Humphrey and Hacker actually work together.

Greatest Documentary ever.

It’s underrated but the bit where Hacker goes “oh dear” after Humphrey points out loads of copies will have to be made, increasing the likelihood of a leak. Just completely insincere concern 😄

Sir Humphrey and Jim are scary when they work together.

Love it, sir humpherys actually proud of hackers plan, a tear in tye at the end, as if to say, ive taught you well :)

"Oh look, a park" -- in the United States -- at least until the 1970s -- parks were seen as the idea location for freeways, including interchanges. That's one reason many freeways run along rivers and creeks, even if there are many curves along the route. You can probably find examples in your own city.

@hagamapama

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, there's a good reason for that. The government owned the parks. They did not own the houses and businesses and would have to etiher eminent domain or negotiate to gain the use of that land. It's just common sense to build new things on land you own rather than land you have to go to a lot of trouble and possible legal hassle to obtain.

The best episodes are always the ones where Hacker and Humphrey team up against somebody else.

The only thing more satisfying than Hacker and Humphrey working together is Hacker getting one up on Humphrey.

Sad thing is, managers talk like this in retail, especially when discussing how to sack people. I worked as a supervisor in a warehouse and they spoke in such a way as to not directly tell me someone had to be suspended but instead implied it. Lots of double speak and words that can be interpreted in both ways. Its very scummy

The PM won't know what hit him...if these two are working together 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@applejuice5272

11 ай бұрын

Both a bus and a train coming out of the same workshop

I just noticed the minister looks like Senator Palpatine.

I love it when they work together. Two oiled Weasles in a bag.

There is probably nothing funnier in the history of the universe yes Minister rules

@michaelmina4519

3 жыл бұрын

And also 'Yes, Prime Minister'

Hacker and Sir Humphrey scheming like this remind me of The Senate and Plagueis. 😅😅

@djcfb2889

3 жыл бұрын

Have you heard the tragedy of Darth plagueis the wise?

This describes the planning of my childhood town in a nutshell

Another superb scene from a wonderful episode.

I love it when they work together.

And that’s why Heathrow still has two runways. ( while every airplane has to circle for 15 minutes over London before the can even begin a approach.) The rail network hasn’t improved since Victorian times. The roads are narrow and not fit for purpose. Nothing in this country is done in the national interest because of local politics. But let’s not change anything and point our finger at Europe’s direction instead. Brilliantly accurate this is.

@davidelliott5843

4 жыл бұрын

The covered the EEC (EU) just as well.

@lc9245

4 жыл бұрын

Although I agree wholeheartedly, I have lived and witness what life was like, living in an environment where the politicians seats are cemented and democracy, not tyranny, is used a boogeyman. If they want to build something, they could come in and evict you in a blink of an eyes. Infrastructures cover the sky but nothing is done to improve the life of the people in the neighbourhood. There’s no quiet zoning areas where children can run around their neighbourhood, there’s only shops next to residential and everyone live in constant noise. We give up certain things for another.

@Mark1024MAK

4 жыл бұрын

valicourt - Heathrow should not be expanded due to many reasons, one of which is that it’s rather silly having people travel by land long distances to get to an airport. A proper study should be done to look at how regional existing airports could be better used. A private airfield within three miles of a large city not far from me closed (sold by the owner) and is likely to have houses built on it. A shame, as it could handle all the large passenger aircraft. Oh, and it’s literally right next door to a railway line, so it would have been easy to built a proper exchange terminal. Most of the U.K. airspace is strictly reserved for the military, so often a ‘direct’ flight is not very direct... No technology currently exists to make any significant difference to the carbon dioxide emissions from aircraft engines, so no government should be encouraging an increase in air traffic. The railways, as well as metro and underground systems have been underfunded for political reasons for many, many years. And apart from line of route and structures (bridges, tunnels, station buildings etc.) there is very little left of the so called ‘Victorian’ railway. The rails, sleepers, signalling systems, telecommunications network, electrical supply systems have all been renewed/replaced since then. However, governments can find money when they want to, to fund and build new roads, including motorways. And to add a fourth/fifth lane under the so called ‘smart’ motorway scheme (and never mind about the safety of the unfortunate motorists who break down where the hard shoulder has been replaced by an extra lane... So as is normal in politics, the politicians blame everyone but themselves as they only look after people who they think will back them, or donate to them/their party.

@trooperdgb9722

4 жыл бұрын

I'll bite. What do you do about narrow roads? Knock down huge numbers of houses and other buidlings to make room to widen them?

@notroll1279

3 жыл бұрын

@@jamespotter4010 According to OECD, the UK is among the countries with the highest road traffic densities in the world. So the roads may be fine but certainly are more crowded than elsewhere - nothing to do with the daftness of drivers, really.

That container lorry park would come in handy now...

One of my favorite scenes across both series. It is pure brilliance, and Bernard's reactions crack me up. 😂😂👏

he would have made a good civil servant.

@lancasterII

6 жыл бұрын

Voice From the Mist As Bernard said, "It's the ultimate compliment."

@MLaak86

2 жыл бұрын

Actually it’s that Hacker is a politician that makes him so dangerous here in combination with Humphrey, he’s immediately aware of how badly received some things will be that Humphrey doesn’t expect (ie cancelling commuter discounts) while Humphrey is able to send a few less obvious but equally “courageous” ideas his way.

@GoldenSunAlex

2 жыл бұрын

"He's a pleasure to work with."

He pointed out the park with the same predatory glee that someone looks at a choice piece of meat

We love this show..this show single handedly absolves the POMS...hilarious.

I liked it when Humpy and Jim battled it out. But I actually liked it better when they worked together... like here. Thank you for posting this scene. ☮

Funny my local council done a vision paper that sounds like it was written like this.

@jimtaylor294

4 жыл бұрын

They probably watched the episode and thought "good idea!".

Pity that the PM is normally in a safe seat and wouldn't be impacted by lost votes on their constituency.

Honestly, watching Hacker and Humphrey on the same page is just as entertaining as watching them at odds.

After watching this, I have decided to move to wherever the prime Minister’s constituency is! Whenever Britain choses a new one I’ll move! Even a bench in park!😅

Its easy to forget that he is not a stupid man and DOES know the game of politics in terms of getting votes :D

@MLaak86

2 жыл бұрын

I never had the sense Hacker was stupid, just out of his depth in terms of dealing with the Civil Service - especially one as capable as Humphrey.

Beautifully charming...

Sheer brilliance.. From the Royal pronoun, to the park, to the trust me. :P

i miss these guys

Don't think they need the container lorry park anymore.

"You can trust me" In politics that is one scary thing to hear....

@MLaak86

2 жыл бұрын

"First rule of trust, never trust anyone who says 'trust me'."

Amazing serie 👍😆

Two lovely men. And so... real.

Bureaucrats will never work harder, nor faster, than to ensure that nothing gets done.

They don't make them like this anymore..

I love how pleased Humphrey look with his idea at 2:32

Make sure you push the envelope all the way in the back of their mailbox, using an envelope that is the exact same color as their mailbox interior.

How Yellowhammer was written... :)

Looks like he's learning a few things from Sir Humphrey!

@MLaak86

2 жыл бұрын

A few, though at the same time it's kinda clear that Hacker being a politician opens him up to ideas that don't occur to Humphrey because he's worried about votes whereas Humphrey doesn't have to be.

The pupil has at last become the master.

I so exciting when they work together

Absolutely hilarious to watch someone describe the US's public transit policy as the kind of thing you suggest when you're trying to get fired

The only American TV show I can think of that combined wit, policy, and flawless performances so well was M*A*S*H.

@neville132bbk

4 жыл бұрын

That on another...lower...level.

@RagnellAvalon

Жыл бұрын

@@neville132bbk if it is, it's not much lower

This is beyond...and the Iron Lady loved the book which I do recommend as well. :)))

Hacker is making the mother of all omelettes, can't fret over every egg

By Jove, I think 'e's got it! :)

Dr. Cocteau meets Emperor Palpatine

Too cute!!!😊

The funny thing is is that most of this is written from actual true events.

Caution! Too much Yes Minister can crack ya ribs.

does anyone watch the ads that precede these clips? or are you like me and find them extremely annoying and skip them asap??

Machiavelic duo

For once, yes, he can trust you.

so this is just kent now.

Hacker and Humphrey stick it to the prime minister

People who wrote the script are beyond knighthood. They should be able to bestow knighthoods as they see fit.

The bit about paying "full economic fares" does irk me. Yes, Commuter Rail is usually run at a loss. But so are the roads- for which motorists rarely pay ANY fares. Use of Commuter Rail reduces reliance on the roads, and so actually saves money in the big picture (though ideally, both Motorists and Commuters should have to pay "full economic fares"- this would actually make rail CHEAPER than driving, so greatly are Motorists subsidized...) Parking should also never be required by law: this is just a massive incentive on driving. Parking fees should be set by the market- i.e. so high that constructing parking lots is just as profitable as constructing buildings... (eliminating thos subsidy on parking would make parking rightfully MUCH more expensive- but goods and services and housing that compete for the land MUCH cheaper...) I know they're just trying to mess things up, but some of their logic for certain changes is utter bollocks...

@rowancrouch4789

4 жыл бұрын

Roads are paid for by a fuel tax aren't they?

@cogidubnus1953

3 жыл бұрын

@@rowancrouch4789 You'll find most taxes and duties go into a general taxation pool, so it's quite difficult to discover who is paying for what...this gives rise to a lack of accountability to any potential widespread (ie ordinary folks) lobby that ministers seem to find appealing...besides it allows business or other potentially valuable corporate lobbies more unobstructed access...

@RD19902010

3 жыл бұрын

In most European countries, people owning cars pay special taxes, not to speak of the incredible over taxation of fuel (100+x% tax), which are rarely only used on related costs. So, no, motorists get the butt end of the deal.

@MrSniperfox29

2 жыл бұрын

@@rowancrouch4789 No, roads are paid for via general taxation, so everyone pays to maintain them whether they drive cars or not.

Apparently I grew up in the PM's constituency

"do you mean we plural or do supremos now use the royal pronouns" Epic response.

This isn't comedy, its a fly on the wall documentary

Works in theory, but there's no reason the PM wouldn't go for this plan. What are his constituents gonna do? Vote for another party? Hahahaha. It's a PM seat, probably the safest in the country.

@druagamaniac

3 жыл бұрын

i mean its a different country but in 2007 in australia the then sitting prime minister john howard lost his local seat before losing the prime mininstership so it is possible

@jonathanfraser321

3 жыл бұрын

Thats what everybody thought until 1997. 3 Cabinet minsters, 2 of whom were the foreign secretary and the defence secretary, lost their lost their seats n that occasion. John Howard, then prime minister of Australi,a lost his seat in a general election. No minister ever forgets their constituency. Thats why they target the PM 's constituency

@jesseberg3271

3 жыл бұрын

That's one of the downsides to a parliamentarian system. A president can't be unseated by one little race in Delaware, or Sao Paulo or the Somme. I'm not saying one system is better than the other, they both have their flaws.

@midgetwars1

3 жыл бұрын

@@jonathanfraser321 Howard's seat was safe, but it wasn't super safe. He won that seat at 54% in 2004. See Morrison's seat? 69% Albo's seat 73%. Good luck flipping that. EIther one of them will need to be the most popular candidate in history to do something crazy like Rudd was to flip a 55% seat.