Historical Total War fans need a support group...

@Hugo.Pearce

2 ай бұрын

At this point we need another company to start doing total war games. CA has almost a monopoly in the genre, and monopolies don't incentivise quality innovations, competition does.

@MedjayofFaiyum

2 ай бұрын

😂 😅unironically true

@MedjayofFaiyum

2 ай бұрын

We’re not getting Med 3 or Empire 2. This sucks 😢

@MedjayofFaiyum

2 ай бұрын

I mean honestly and while I like the Pharaoh, where the heck is Rome 3? Where is it? I’m seriously annoyed, I don’t mind the other Tories, but honestly it feels like they are abandoning true historical periods in order to do mainstream niche style settings that will sell.

@charlesmiv3842

2 ай бұрын

@@MedjayofFaiyum We don't need another Rome setting my guy.

I can hear it already. The agony cries of Medieval fans.

@thomasFR967

2 ай бұрын

Its sad, but I think there will never be a Medieval 3 or a remaster version. This era of Total War is over, now CA will try new thing, mechanics and genra of game. Only the futur will tell us if this will work, or if these changes will mark the definitive end of Total War.

@ElZilchoYo

2 ай бұрын

TW is just a dead franchise to me. The Star Wars one will flop anyway

@Fran5Malan

2 ай бұрын

​@@ElZilchoYoI also expect it is going to flop hard. Pessimisticaly optimistic.

@CoffeeFiend1

2 ай бұрын

How long have we been asking for Medieval 3? Well.... There are total war youtube influencers that weren't even born when we started asking. So it's been a minute shall we say....

@LucasCunhaRocha

2 ай бұрын

nah, I'm fine, I don't wanna CA to ruin one of the last games I still love to play.

So this is how historical TW dies...with thunderous applause.

@CoffeeFiend1

2 ай бұрын

The turn-coats dance amongst the snakes in the grass. It is a sad day.

@vetabeta9890

2 ай бұрын

WW1 is a historical event.

@user-dx6bv2pe1s

2 ай бұрын

CA will make historical games, it is worth the only thing that businesses care about money

@karelwolf998

2 ай бұрын

CA: "We love historical total war titles"

@jaspermooren5883

2 ай бұрын

What are you talking about? They made another historical title fairly recently (Pharaoh) and last time I checked, WWI is very much a historical period. I'm quite interested in a WWI game, it could introduce a ton of new interesting mechanics. Why do so many people think that non historical titles mean that the historical ones are somehow dead? The historical side of Total War hasn't really changed in size or output that much. It just didn't grow as much as other parts did, because it doesn't make as much money.

Every single Total War Fan: WE WANT MIDEVIL 3! Creative Assembly: "Best we can do is WW1"

@karner1541

2 ай бұрын

Honestly WW1 could be awesome and bring some fresh air, if done right. U boat warfare, airplanes and gas as new technologies. Tanks...

@KaiserMattTygore927

2 ай бұрын

I'll take WW1 been wanting them to do that for 106 years.

@fufutul3258

2 ай бұрын

​@@KaiserMattTygore927💀?

@fufutul3258

2 ай бұрын

I love it WW1 seems like pure chaos I love the mods in totla war games expanding timelines Total war rome 2 has crusade mod for 1100 AD and ancient wars from 600BCE to 58BCE Atilla has a crusade mod as well Rome2 also has a mod that is basically Pharoah mod so it basically makes the Pharoah game useless

@vortigernsaga

2 ай бұрын

I don't want a Medieval 3

Fans: "We want new historical titles!!" CA: "Got it!! Milk every fantasy/science fiction franchise possible"

@MedjayofFaiyum

2 ай бұрын

😅exactly well said 😅😅😅😅😂😂

@gstellar96

2 ай бұрын

If you look at the numbers, it's clear fantasy and sci-fi are what's more popular

@ivankraljevic1

2 ай бұрын

I mean if they could grab lotr licence...Took them ages for wh fantasy. I remember reading in gaming magazine about negotiations with GW somewhere very early in 2000's @@gstellar96

@quimble2177

2 ай бұрын

@@gstellar96 It is. Its also full of people who don't give a single fuck about TW as a whole and have never touched the older games because "But no monsters"

@michaelmorton6566

2 ай бұрын

@@quimble2177 ive played almost every single total war game over the years and im glad there doing more sci fi games for total war there more interesting to me over all

I'm so sick of everything that isn't a TRUE historical TW game. Even a remaster of Medieval 2 or Empire would hold me over at this point.

@mcwally514

2 ай бұрын

Ppl are bored with it.... Its the same game with minor tweaks.

@quimble2177

2 ай бұрын

@@mcwally514 Bored with what, historicals? We haven't had a proper Historical since Thrones of fucking Britannia and that game was horribly mid

@AL-hn1uq

2 ай бұрын

WW1 really happened.

@pizzaman6784

2 ай бұрын

@@AL-hn1uq I would actually be ok with a WW1 game, but I would prefer it started in the late 1800’s and you could eventually reach WW1 technology.

@wilhelm7450

2 ай бұрын

​@@mcwally514who is this "people" exactly

There won't be a SW Total War It's just a rumour from only ONE website

@HelpMePleaseOhGodHelpMe

2 ай бұрын

yeah having licences for star wars AND 40k doesn't really make sense

@lukedumoulin8204

2 ай бұрын

he literally pointed out 3 websites in the video

@longyearbyen9356

2 ай бұрын

3 Websites who have the same one source

@CoffeeFiend1

2 ай бұрын

CA have lost their minds though. It could honestly be true or not. 50/50. One of the biggest criticiques (and logical ones at that) are that SW and 40k wouldn't allow their franchises to be developed by the same people at such similar times. It makes sense. It just wouldn't happen. But CA has been re-writing the rulebook on mindbending clusterfuckery for a few years now.

@longyearbyen9356

2 ай бұрын

The only website, DualShockers that claims to have the original source states: "A total of three new Total War games are in development at Creative Assembly, with one of them being an officially licensed Star Wars game, DualShockers has learned" This not enough for me. Let's wait the REAL announcement.

Folks. I don’t think we may ever get a historical Total War title ever again. I’m starting to get REALLY pissed off now.

@CoffeeFiend1

2 ай бұрын

They hate us. The people that made them.

@sprintxr9339

2 ай бұрын

when looking at it from large company’s point of view, they have made 3 fantasy games which have all done extremely well, selling tons of dlc after release and holding down a lot of players years after release than look at the last 3 historic total war games. they have all flopped majorly, why would they even consider doing another historical game when there’s no gain to be made. while i don’t believe this is right considering that the historic games have not come close to their true potential this is the way that CA would be looking at the situation.

@pepperVenge

2 ай бұрын

Didn't they just release Pharaoh? And Three Kingdoms a couple years before that? They only released three fantasy titles, and they were all of the same franchise.

@CoffeeFiend1

2 ай бұрын

@@pepperVenge Three Kingdoms and Troy were both originally very fantastical until modding and later patches got round to their historical modes. They still retain all the RPG character loadout nonsense. Pharaoh was also set for this but narrowly escaped it in the end but the bandwagon had already started so most people were too stupid to re-evaluate their rantings. The recent historical titles have been token half-sesh titles, stripped bare bones 'fantasy-lite' and cartoony. The last proper pure historical title we got was Thrones of Britannia.

@sercravenmohead3631

2 ай бұрын

*Laughs in Star Wars/Warhammer* Nice place.

Someone at CA has clearly forgotten the tale of the fall of TellTale Games

@karelwolf998

2 ай бұрын

"Did you ever hear the Tragedy of TellTale Games?"

Clickbait title so you get a thumbs down from me. What does "YES, IT'S REAL " in the title mean? Nothing has been officially announced and confirmed yet.

@turtlecheese8

2 ай бұрын

Based clickbait hater.

I don't care for Disney Star Wars at all

@OneofInfinity.

2 ай бұрын

Disney what? the saga ended after the prequels, just like Terminator only had 2 movies and a cancelled tv series, same with Indy and all other beloved franchises they are destroying on purpose.

@Elzimbabwe.

2 ай бұрын

@@OneofInfinity. You're awake, I hope more will do the same. This is the plan, to destroy every escapism.

@GarkKahn

2 ай бұрын

I stopped caring about Star wars at all a long time ago

@Dyno2999

2 ай бұрын

@@Elzimbabwe. oh boohoo

@dukkiegamer1733

2 ай бұрын

​@GarkKahn if you want to watch something good I can really recommend Bad Batch. It's the best thing since the last season of The Clone Wars.

I'm confused on why people are acting like WW1 isn't by definition a historical total war

@CoffeeFiend1

2 ай бұрын

It's the only 1 that could be adapted but the caveating involved to make it plausible would quickly stick it into the realms of fantastical alternate history before it even began. All the historical titles have the scope to be alternate history in that you can go in different directions but they all start in a historically grounded place prior to. This wouldn't be possible with WW1 unless they made it really saga-like hyper focused on a very specific region and time period within WW1.

@nitothefunkybunch6938

2 ай бұрын

@@CoffeeFiend1 Why wouldnt that be possible with ww1?

@CoffeeFiend1

2 ай бұрын

@@nitothefunkybunch6938 The initial comment. ^

@incognitoomen7898

2 ай бұрын

Nobody is saying that it isn't. We are talking about the fact that more fantasy games are being focused on than historical titles.

@CoffeeFiend1

2 ай бұрын

@@nitothefunkybunch6938 I've responded to you twice, politely. And they're still deleted. I'm just going to assume you've read it.

"YES, IT'S REAL" in this case meaning "unconfirmed rumours that almost certainly aren't real".

3 Total War titles that should be in development are; Victorian Era Total War 30 Years War Total War 16th Century South East Asia Total War

@sean1035

2 ай бұрын

To be fair a Medieval 3 lends itself to lots of DLC. Like Shogun 2 had Rise/Fall of the Samurai. From a business perspective, there would be a bunch of “get us to spend money” opportunities with a Medieval 3.

@TriggeringOpinionsandFacts

2 ай бұрын

@@sean1035 exactly. A 16th century Asian total war has so many opportunities for DLC. The Imjin War being a perfect base period to pull in Korea, Japan, and Jerchin-Chinese. And it can have a two fold objective - be the clan to conquer Korea and be the clan to conquer China. Toss in a mongol invasion prequel DLC like rise of the samurai or some sort of Chinese civil war.

@danfish300

2 ай бұрын

I would fkn LOVE a 30 years war TW. It is such an amazing period to look at.

@rpgguy7429

2 ай бұрын

Was hoping for Empire II with maybe an American Civil War and Anglo-Indian wars as expansions. Sadge.

@yurakolesnikov9725

2 ай бұрын

Medieval 3 WW1, then, after player feedback, testing and adding SHITTON of improvements - WW2 + Cold War era Total War

I give up with CA.

@kingmarre9130

2 ай бұрын

Ok bye

@truffelnootje

2 ай бұрын

Me 2, but im still going to learn myself how to mod and make /help make, something better, I mean its the only good thing CA makes: half products for others to improve on for free…

@karlfranz5229

2 ай бұрын

😩

@filipefernandes870

2 ай бұрын

same here

Honestly it anger me hearing the potential of Total War changing it's gameplay for these new fantasy titles (40k and SW). I prefer preserving the Total War gameplay as is.

@charlesmiv3842

2 ай бұрын

I'm totally uninterested in anything Warhammer related, but StarWars seems sick.

@quimble2177

2 ай бұрын

Genuinely depressing imo. TW will go from: "That Strategy game with a mix of grand strategy and RTS with settings with mass infantry blocks, sieges and cavalry" to: "That Strategy game with a mix of grand strategy and RTS" It goes from something unique to something that's been done, *a lot*. Its just generic.

@JB-xi2yv

2 ай бұрын

I've been wanting a 40k title for a long time, but I wanted it to play like older historical titles. What we'll get is some washed out and cheesed to make it for the simpletons.

@domL2507

2 ай бұрын

But fantasy beings in more sales and you can only make so much historical games till you are just releasing the same thing over and over again

@jaspermooren5883

Ай бұрын

I mean that already exists right? You can just play the games that already exist. I applaud them for having the balls to try something completely new in a world where the opposite seems to be more and more the norm. Just reproducing old IPs over and over again. I applaud them for trying something completely new that doesn't exist yet. I'd love to see a WWI game, it will have a ton of different mechanics to other games that already exist. I'm kinda interested in how they are going to implement trench warfare in a total war game (since they kinda have to for a WWI game). That is all assuming the rumours are true, this video is acting like it's fact while it's all hearsay and long term plans. Probably CA doesn't even know if these things will actually happen or not.

Fans: we dont want wizards anymore Ca: how bout space wizards

@LegioXXI

2 ай бұрын

The point is, no one cares what "fans" want or don't want, it's what the customers want and pay for. And sadly the fantasy Total War games are a success, thats also why i think a Star Wars Total War is plausible. At least more plausible than Medieval 3 or Empire 2. Money decides where companies go, not dedication of a fanbase. The only exception are indie games.

@sweetpapad4674

2 ай бұрын

That’s you saying that, not fans, thrones of decay is fantasy ands that’s sold and been reviewed positively

@thecoocheemonster

2 ай бұрын

@@sweetpapad4674 the warhammer/fantasy side of the fanbase is overserved while the historical side is starving

@sweetpapad4674

2 ай бұрын

@@thecoocheemonster that’s fair all I’m saying but pretend like the other side don’t exist

@sercravenmohead3631

2 ай бұрын

Well they made more money off warhammer, and their fans have no problem forking out cash. If you think CA is bag Gamesworkshop is 10x worse.

Medieval 3: Total War (1000-1400s) DLC's: 1. Age of Exploration(1400-1600) 2. Shogun lite + China DLC 3. India in depth DLC 4. Sub-Sahara Africa DLC 5. Early Medieval age

@silentslayergaming8469

13 күн бұрын

You just described the perfect total war game. CA is too dumb to do this and it'd be so simple for them. They don't like money

They can’t make LOTR that would massively sell but they will do WH40k.

@mariusbehm9874

2 ай бұрын

40k more sorry 40k is will extremly sell

@MedjayofFaiyum

2 ай бұрын

@@mariusbehm9874 LOTR man nothing replaces that

@hideo1102

2 ай бұрын

I think that wh40k is more popular within gamers so it will sell better

@mariusbehm9874

2 ай бұрын

@@MedjayofFaiyum rings of power killed a bit the hype and the licens is so damm expensiv star wars is not that expansiv and warhammer 40k is already the deal

@gstellar96

2 ай бұрын

Total War Warhammer did massively well, and it's like the red-headed stepchild in terms of popularity compared to the absolute Goliath that is 40k.

I do seriously worry that the Star Wars Total War will be based on Disn*y "canon"...

@rubotok3703

2 ай бұрын

ah shit

@Savvysnek

2 ай бұрын

my guess is they release it first with original trilogy campaign, then clone wars as dlc, given the pattern of past Star Wars games like battlefront. Sequel content would probably be last cause even Disney knows now that it doesn’t sell as well.

@gaborholotajr.4427

2 ай бұрын

​@Savvysnek, there are differences in the Clone Wars and Galactic Civil War eras between Legends and "canon". Also, it being based on "canon" probably means we won't see a Rise of the Republic or Old Republic or New Sith Wars or Imperial Warlord era or Yuuzhan Vong Invasion or any other era campaign from the significantly richer, cooler (and just in every way better) Legends timeline.

It seems unlikely to me given CA's state. 8 months after a $100 Million failure and many layoffs, I'm supposed to believe CA is developing 3 or 4 huge flagship products simultaneously? How many dev teams do they have? Did they open a portal to the warp for infinite resources? It would believable if they were only developing 40K and Star Wars. I think that Total War is going to abandon historical entirely. It's not making them money and they haven't had a success with historical since 2018 with 3K, which they proceeded to foul up during its DLC cycle. 40K, LOTR, Star Wars, etc. all these are easy winners that even CA can't mess up and promise years of DLC income, which is a logical step forward from TW Warhammer.

@rubotok3703

2 ай бұрын

you make alot of sense

@BittermanAndy

2 ай бұрын

Yeah. Canned Hyenas, completely rewrote one DLC and rethought another for Warhammer, rebundled a complete game for Pharoah, made 200+ staff redundant... and they still have enough resources to work on three major new projects at once, which they've never done before? No chance. None.

@jacksheldon8566

Ай бұрын

Never say "Can't mess up". Disney, EA and Ubisoft proved that anything can be messed up, just like that.

It has been 15 years since Empire came out and I've been waiting for a sequel since then. This must be what purgatory is like.

Not excited about any of the futuristic TW games.. I'm a huge fan of starwars and I like the WH 40k lore BUT I think we finally deserve a good Historical TW game again! I thought they were working on Medieval 3? I'd honestly already be happy with a medieval 2 remastered game by now...

@TheManofthecross

Ай бұрын

medieval 3 will not come till 2040 at the earliest or sometime in that decade. so the hopes of that game are dead for the here and now.

I have no faith in CA do do this properly!

No one: Absolutely no one: CA: !Star wars total war!!

they have gone fkin insane, this is now a speedrun on how to fk up the franchise

@OneofInfinity.

2 ай бұрын

That is obviously the plan or be taken over by one corpo, one by one. Remember the end goal: U'll own...

@maximusd26

2 ай бұрын

@@OneofInfinity. I've been writing a script with a friend, and more and more I want to candidate at CA and make them hire me as project manager. They need someone from among us because they couldn't be more out of touch. I'll just have to do it out of spite at some point wtf is this

@BlazeFlame24

2 ай бұрын

What? TWW serie is the most money CA and Sega ever made with Total War. Its much much more than some historical titles. So, there is like zero chance of any historical one, when it make far less money. Thats how it work sadly.

@maximusd26

2 ай бұрын

@@BlazeFlame24 cope

@Ceiling_Gato

2 ай бұрын

You see, it's very easy: Warhammer makes money. Histoid shit does not.

Oh yay, more Warhammer and futuristic/modern settings I have absolutely zero interest in playing...guess it's Manor Lords time, then

@st.dennie1149

2 ай бұрын

Cya!

@Z-1991

2 ай бұрын

Ok then.

@charlesmiv3842

2 ай бұрын

Manor Lords is entirely different genre from Total War

@quimble2177

2 ай бұрын

@@charlesmiv3842 True, it is, though I think it hits roughly the same itch for a lotta people. Myself included.

@charlesmiv3842

2 ай бұрын

@@quimble2177 Me too. However it's much more akin to Age of Empires than it is to TW.

CA choose the most "who ask ?" setting ever for their game :

@owenmerrigan1791

2 ай бұрын

I don't want a Star wars TW game, but to pretend like it would not be the best selling TW game of all time is delusional.

CA went to the dark side

@OneofInfinity.

2 ай бұрын

Corpos where always, they where just waiting for the right moment to show their true faces, Hydra is rising from the shadows.

Fuck sake. Back in the day Warhammer was supposed to be a big cash influx so they could expand and grow and then bomb out more epic scale historicals.

So this is the final nail in historical total war coffin 😢

The fact that Total War is not developing is solely the fault of CA. They have a lot to grow in terms of mechanics, but they just make the same game with slightly different textures. They have not been able to bring the fleet to mind, to make it a significant part of the gameplay, so that players need to use it for a comfortable game and at the same time make naval battles interesting enough in themselves. They did not bring to mind the sieges, which still very vaguely resemble what actually happened, it is necessary to introduce a greater importance of various engineering structures in them, it is necessary to create a siege camp so that the besiegers do not stand in an open field, it is necessary to increase the importance of walls, which are now almost useless, it is necessary to remove pocket ladders, add moats, shafts, the need to overcome them and so on. Sieges can generally be made such a mini-game inside the game. The main troops are also not all right, there is no supply in the game and I can send my army from Crimea to Britain without having a single transshipment base along the way, which should not be the case. The hiring of armies itself could be radically reworked, because now in the game any army of any most barbaric state is in fact regular, although in fact various forms of militia fought mainly in the centuries before the 18th century, this could lead to a bunch of interesting situations when, for example, you can't fight for too long because your the troops will simply disperse, as they need to harvest crops, and much more. I don't even touch on the topic of domestic politics and economics, there is boundless space there, there would be a desire, but there is none. There is a desire to sell players a twenty-year-old game in a new wrapper. It's so frustrating to realize what huge opportunities CA is missing out on because of its greed.

Oh I hope not. CA need to invest in and improve the fundamental TW model; not just farm another IP

Just give me a big historical. If it’s WW1 perfect. Idc just domething

It makes me sad that there won't be another Three Kingdoms. Its an interesting time period, and 3k had some of the best features I've seen in any total war game to date. The campaign map experience was unmatched(personally), except for the map design. The UI was exceptional and I really hope it can be used in more TW games. The UI made the game feel much more realistic, with resources like supplies, for cities and armies. The army system was super interesting, as it only makes sense that armies that have fought under a general would remain(somewhat) loyal to that general. Honestly I think that the Total War franchise suffers from new renewing the 3K game

Ok... Lets ser how good they are. Still waiting for some roman, medieval, napoleonic era strategy tho

Historical fans to CA: you don’t need to work on a Star Wars game, these aren’t the genre’s we’re looking for, you can go about your business making Medieval 3.

IF these rumors are true (and I don't think so) they draw a very sad future for historical TW =/

@OneofInfinity.

2 ай бұрын

The entire gaming industry has no future if up to a few, the left overs will be behind a monthly fee, aka: pay full price to be allowed to pay monthly if u actually want to play it, add the fee to your OS monthly fee and cloud saves only, all of your data belongs to them.

@Elzimbabwe.

2 ай бұрын

@@OneofInfinity. truth bombs

The total war formula is not compatible with the modern warfare of WWI, let alone star wars or 40k. Sure I would love a beautiful, high budget, strategy game for any of these properties. I just hope people get that a total war in a setting like these will have to be massively different from other total wars to make any sense. So different, it could practically be a different game. At that point we already have other games in these settings.

I still pray we'll one day get another gunpowder era Total War

Considering how WWI was fought, I feel a WWI total war is the most realistic one CA could develop and release to satisfy the community. I mean it was massive infantry pushes and tank pushes n thanks to WHTW we have seen steam tanks, why not slap some A7V's or some Saint-Chamond tanks down. Empire and napoleon gave us a system for regiments taking cover behind barricades, in buildings, and on fort walls for the ranged units so applying that to a trench line would be easy. the trickiest part would be figuring out the WWI styled artillery which ranged from 37mm to 420mm. WWI would be the one I expect to be best received and easiest to make. 40k would be the second most likely one given total war warhammer's... "success?" perhaps persistent is a better term. 40k has a mix of tanks, melee units, and ranged units, siege units, monsters, but considering that some ships (especially in the Imperium) have guns on them bigger than a super star destroyer? I doubt there would be naval combat, it would most likely be locked to a single planet like the battle of Kronus featured once already in Dawn of war Dark Crusade meaning we would get chaos, space marines, imperial guard, tau, orks, necrons, and eldar to play around with. Star wars though? I haven't a clue how they would work that one into a total war styled game. Maybe planets will function like settlments and you would be able to build fleets and train armies from them? blockading a planet instead of besieging it and landing an army to invade and take said planet? That would work for making a truely massive Starwars total war aswell as a 40k total war. I see em releasing 40k total war first, as warhammer is ca's thing at the moment, then starwars, cause fantasy has been ca's thing for awhile, and finally WWI. Ideally I'd say they should release WWI total war first, then starwars, and finally warhammer.

I have always wished for a total war set around the first world war. I do think it would need to start in the mid 1800s so when you get to ww1 and the rapid technological advances it gives a late stage challenge like real commanders went through Also agree that it would need naval warfare and I would argue needs aircraft as well

WW1, WW2, LOTR, WHF and 40k are all I have ever wanted. I was so happy to get a WHF total war.

sadly i have no faith in CA's ability to provide a good game anymore especially when they try to "Innovate"

I appreciate you using Star Wars: Empire at War footage, if Total War did Space battles like that game I think it’d be amazing personally

@AndysTake

Ай бұрын

A true great eye of culture 💪 📖

@bradyfletcher7153

Ай бұрын

Would it be on console tho 😢😂

I actually have no clue how they gonna realize the WW1 total war because there shouldn't be any line firegroup tactic

@tibsky1396

2 ай бұрын

“The Great War: The Western Front” has been there, and will surely have given some ideas to further improve the experience.

@sercravenmohead3631

2 ай бұрын

Artillery conquers territory, infantry only occupied it. An historically accurate WW1 game would be the objectively “worse” TW experience, it’s a war of logistics and manpower not tactics. The meta will just be tanks and you beat the game just like real life, you can’t expect me to use cavalry, on every front it was a meat grinder war of attrition. During the first battle of the Marne 1914 trenches were dug up along the western front.

@LeChevalierAnglais

Ай бұрын

Well actually, formations were used. Typically, single rank firing lines, in either close or open order. Usually, behind cover, with the men kneeling or lying prone.

2:16 - I agree. But then what is the point of total war if it’s not about having g massive armies clash on the field?

Y'know what, provided they do this well, I think success of this will fuel a better historical series of games. Keep in mind, these new games will ALL have a brand new engine, which now allows us to play in 3 dimensions. Even if it's bad at launch, that alone is more than gonna fuel a new line of incredible mods.

honestly if the rumors are true and 40k and starwars are a thing in development then screw CA and Total War. Myself and many others are sick of Fantasy titles and just want a return to good historical games. yet they keep scrapping them for bullshit. i'll be happy if proven wrong but after WH3 and Pharaoh i hold no hope in this company and the games they make

i wanted a global victorian age total war that went into more area depth with the world open similar to empire total war

Wait a minute today isn't 1st April 😂

The only way a WWI Total War game can work is if it is not Total War or if it is not historical

@CoffeeFiend1

2 ай бұрын

WW1 is about the only one that could work but with very heavy caveating. It would have to be quite 'saga title like' in that it would be very focused on specific areas. It wouldn't really feel like WW1. It would all together be a half-assed bastardization that would work sort of in parts. As opposed to SW and 40k which are just frankly absolute lunacy.

@maraganina

2 ай бұрын

@@CoffeeFiend1 WW1 was the polar opposite of any Total War game. TW combat is punctual and instantaneous, armies are concentrated to a single unit on the map. WW1 was completely decentralized and logistics were important. In TW you can walk around with your army anywhere into enemy lands. This game will either be nothing like WW1 or it will be nothing like previous TW games.

If they are actually doing this my question is will it be a fight over a single large planet with multiple factions? or will we be fighting over planets and if so are we getting space battles?

My concern is a drop in quality if they are going to rush games out one after the other a year apart. It took them 5 years after release to finish WH2, we are in the 3rd year after WH3 came out with lots of work to still go and more work being done on Pharaoh, are they going to have enough experienced staff to go around to ensure quality across the board once all these new projects are released.

For more recent players trying to understand older ones comments about recent historical games being "not historical" (I'm somewhat in the middle): it's not specifically about the historical accuracy itself but about their old formula: - armies not requiring commander to be able to move and fight - units without hp with kill chance calculated depending on different factors - sieges that actually work and are intense with defense structures being meaningful - technologies actually unlocking new units and buildings - unit formations - deeper strategy systems like proper population, growth Etc. CA made a lot of small changes with each new game that combined into Total War formula drifting further and further from what attracted original fans of the series My personal take is that I'm annoyed that whenever CA design a system that actually works and is something worth developing they immiedieatly abandon it in the next game instead of improving

My main question is how would space age fighter jets and laser planes work in the Total War battle engine? Also, what would city or settlement management be like? Click on floating settlements in space?

@CoffeeFiend1

2 ай бұрын

They wouldn't. It's painfully succinct.

Are you freaking kidding me? No Med 3 or Empire 2. It's like they are trying to piss fans off on purpose.

Please just be Dawn of War with a campaign map, please just be Dawn of War with a campaign map, please just be Dawn of War with a campaign map...

@quimble2177

2 ай бұрын

unironically the best case scenario, well, other than them not making it.

I can officially confirm that Star Wars total war might be in development

@thx1138thecrane

Ай бұрын

If its disney shit, whats the point?!?

So Creative Assembly recently laid off a bunch of people, yet rumors suggest they are developing three ongoing games while supporting Warhammer 3 for another two years and making an expansion for Pharaoh? Really? And you also think 40K and Star Wars will run concurrently too? I think people need to be a bit more discerning. About that leaker saying it was futuristic: "Futuristic" doesn't mean Star Wars. How did you conclude that this would make the probability "high"? I can think of 100 futuristic settings that are NOT Star Wars. In fact, I would say it's likely not Star Wars because if someone actually saw it and weren't lying, they would just come out and say Star Wars since the environments, themes, and style would be super recognizable. With Warhammer 3 and Pharaoh still getting updates, I would say there is, at most, one game in preproduction or production right now. It's probably not Star Wars, because any leaker who saw it would just come out and say, "I saw this ship, I saw this iconic texture, I saw a lightsaber, I saw this droid, I saw this race, whatever." So it's probably 40K or something else. I don't believe the WW1 game was ever in development. Considering Hyenas was in active development in 2023, we can safely assume no Total War game was being made there. That leaves just one studio left to work on a hypothetical three games since we know what the other two studios were doing. Good luck explaining how Newcastle is making three games. We know Shanghai is only supporting as well, so they are not making anything.

Personally I'm wondering about a few things; How much a Warhammer 40K Total War will differ itself from the Dawn of War series (or whether that's old enough that we need not worry)? What trilogies will feature in a Star Wars Total War and how you'd transition between them (perhaps an event causes the Republic, then later Empire, to fall and your clan then chooses loyalties between the successors)? How will a World War One Total War deal with the Firepower Revolution and the shift in urban combat from Wall and Street Fighting to Barricade and House to House fighting? As the big block units of previous Total War games would be shredded by machine guns more than they were against the Gatling Guns in Fall of the Samurai as rapid fire weapons are more ubiquitous by 1914 and even rifle infantry have a far faster rate of fire than previous eras with British Rifle Infantry in 1914 being trained to fire 15 aimed shots a minute as a base line (with some being able to manage up to 42 in the Mad Minute competitions) not to mention the range of artillery in the first world war and the increased size of the battlefield compared to previous conflicts.

I still don't know how these settings would work in a Total War style rts. Total wars whole thing is fighting in line formations, and WW1 is literally the reason militaries stopped using line formations lmao so I don't know how they're gonna make that work with changing the gameplay drastically

I am hyped for the TW Pharaoh map expansion. I before Pharaoh was announced I was hoping for a map painter Bronze Age game, so I was extremely happy when they announced and more so now with this big map update. I am also extremely excited about TW Star Wars and do hope they will have a Clone Wars, Galactic Civil War, and Sequel Start Date Campaigns for it.

I get why people don´t want those things and basically demand return to more detailed and realistic historical games (I wish that too), but probably the biggest problem of their new games is repeating same format again and again while adding few features and taking out more. They can´t do that in those games and it might finally force them to innovate.

Honestly I’m thinking a combination of men of war assault squad total war, as in the strategic maps may not change but the battles may be of more detail like those in men of war where you take control of larger formations and have the options to call in re enforcements from your larger army stack that you engaged the enemy with. If you can picture what I’m saying

oh god fuck no!

Excellent choice for the background music. Empire and shogun 2 epic musical scores. Now I’m going to form that support group for the ignored historical genre. I’m getting too old to continue waiting for an empire 2.

I'd be surprised if they totally packed it in on TW:WW1 if that's truly what they were developing. Completely cancelling it a year before release would leave a massive revenue gap, even more than a year delay. Also if their other two line up games are both fantasy, this potentially leaves a 3 year historical gap. If the last update was nearly 6 months ago, that's a long time to cram development into

What I wonder is how they are going to make the games with the current engine. Unless they announce that they are going or have already created a new engine for their future games, I find it very difficult. The current engine can barely handle Warhammer games, try to do space combat with capital ships, fighters and other things, the engine would explode.

Without a new engine it will still be the same crap with a new skin. Same campaign and battle AI, same sieges, same movement for units, same rock-paper-scissor principle and so on.

Also I feel very strongly the project that "died in its infancy" was Empire 2. The naval combat and mechanics would have been an easy thing to shift to the next total war.

I'm a huge historical TW fan, but I have to admit, I'm curious and interested, as all of this might bring some fresh air to the formula and it might offer a different kind of experience which could be fun.

1 positive for those of us wanting Empire 2 is that these could help with improving shooting based warfare….

Due to recent issues with the past three historical total war games, if they make a WWI Total War, it needs to be done correctly. Nothing that will make it fantasy adjacent, or between history and fantasy; aside from having control of one nation and being able to change history as all other Total War titles have allowed. If they have to innovate and change a few mechanics to do it correctly, I am all for it. CA seems to have been rather stagnant in their creative process for some time now. The engine should be able to support both line battles as well as modern warfare (an opinion).

I would love a Victorian era total war but with the main story/campaign focusing on the U.S. Civil War. Then of course I would want this map to include the whole entire world or at least most of it. I think the main focus for the grand campaign should include building an empire or trying to keep your empire alive depending on who you play as. If HOI4 can have a map of the entire world then Total War can as well. This will of course will need them to bring back navy combat but even better than before with the introduction of iron clads while some navy’s around the world were still using wooden frigates

Thank you so much for this video I got my total war info fix.

@AndysTake

Ай бұрын

My pleasure, my friend!

I have to say, i've been wanting a ww1 total war game, as much as a victorian total war game, i hope it's somewhat like medieval 2, which is in my eyes, the best historical title yet.

“The History will be reorganized, into THE FIRST AHISTORICAL EMPIRE!” -Emperor Creative Assembly or smth

It seems Manorlords freaked them out…

as a historical total war supporter i am both hyped for a ww1 game and hyped for a star wars game but scared for warhammer 40k

Yes its real? Not a single shred of evidence to support that. Do we really think Sega got their hands on the SW games lincence and only some random blogger knows about it?

If nothing changes in the studio I dont think they can make it

If Stormtroopers don't have really poor aims it won't be true Star Wars!

My worry about the World War I total war is that it’ll just become a game of numbers. in previous games you could be out numbered 3 to 1 but as long as you were smart about it and you some clever maneuvers to outflank your opponents you could win most battles. World War I however, I can’t really picture how that would work the technologies just to advance. I just hope that these next few titles aren’t as cartoony as the last few ones.

Ouch, honestly, this hurts. I love history and fantasy, sci-fi is more like a side quest for me. I have been waiting for Medieval 3 for 10 years now, since Rome 2. I would even love to have Empire II, Lord of the Rings Total War, Warcraft Total war, but these titles mentioned in the video doesn't excite me. I care just a little for W40K, even less for Star Wars and not at all for WW1. I like knights in armor, royal dynasties, villanous hordes and mythology. I wish for at least Medieval 2 Remaster or this will be such a long time without a title that would fit my interests... Is CA planing to abandon their historical and fantasy fans and focus on entirely new audience? Honestly, now, the expansion for Pharaoh with expanded map and dynasty/succession system looks like godsend to me... :/

What I am actually most excited for is oddly enough for them to move on from Warhammer III, I just want them to give us whatever cool shit they got planned and then let the modders cook, so tired of my game being broken by the seemingly endless updates.

There is no need for Rome 3 when we haven’t even got Empire 2.

All I could think of for some reason was CA downloading some mods and releasing them as full games, thats what the titles sound like.. 😅

I'm just starting to get into Medieval 2 and I'm planning to eventually follow it up with Shogun 2 so I'm actually good for a while.

I love total war warhammer and all, but damn i really be needing something historical. I loved rome, empire, shogun. I want that so bad, with updated graphics. I just hope it isn't bad, that they don't dumb it down thinking "we got to dumb it down and make it simple so that new players understand. Example of this, look at battlefront 1 from EA. when we all head EA was making a new battlefront, how many of us thought it'd be like the og battlefront? how many people thought "omg we're getting a battlefield set in star wars?!" it was so hyped, and then it came out and it was hardly like battlefield. It was similar, but not it, and it feels like they dumbed it super down so that new players (as star wars is huge, it's going to bring people who've never played battlefield, or in the previous case, RTS/Total wars before) could jump in and understand the game easily. Even battlefront 2, it feels (although not AS much) dumbed down from something like battlefield which it is obviously trying to replicate without full diving into a battlefield experience. I want the game to keep its total war feel, but seeing as whenever it comes to huge IP's like Star Wars , I'm extremely afraid that Total War Star Wars will come out looking like a saga or worst

Dont believe it until you see it.

I am a huge Star Wars Fan, but also long for the next historical entry, preferably Medieval 3. Therefore I am both happy and disappointed at the same time.

As excited as I am to see how the star wars one will turn out im still pretty pissed off about not getting empire 2....or med 3.....

this is either gonna be one of the best crossovers or the worst. Time will tell, and we'll be here watching intently

While I love Star Wars, I struggle to see how it will work in a Total War game. Total War has always been formation based, and even with the addition of heroes and monsters in recent games I can't see them holding up a Total War game on its own. Star Wars just does not have formation warfare (unless you're battle droids I guess). I can see how a loose formation system that heavily utilises cover mechanics could work for WWI or 40k, but even they don't seem fit for a Total War game.

I do respect CA for trying new things. I really really do. But this seems like too much of a side-track to me. I'd much rather have a grand historical Empire 2- title, taking place from Age of Discovery right to the prelude to ww1. And just let victorian-era "loose rifle infantry formation", gatling guns and modern naval battles be the most innovative thing to bring in for now. If CA really wants to make a good "Star Wars Total War" they should just fund Petroglyph to make "Star Wars: Empire at War 2" Star Wars: Empire at War, is the name of the game where all that footage is from, btw, in case anybody was wondering ;)

I've wanted WH40K and WW1 total war for so long I refuse to be disheartened by the fact I've been SCREAMING for Medieval 3 for a decade.

Total War battles are based around formations fighting each other as one unit. The invention of the machine gun necessitated the breakup of those formations otherwise you'd have an absolute blood bath on your hands. Soldiers in the First World War and especially WW2 and beyond are not going to pack together in groups of 100-200 and shoot at each other like men did in the 18th century. Land Battles in WW1 and certainly in 40k also absolutely dwarf nearly anything from the Ancient and Medieval eras. Maybe they can make it work but I think the battle mechanics will have to be totally reworked.

TW's next golden goose is a WW2 game. All the game logic for land, sea and air already exists. There is plenty of dlc room as well for this, introducing new countries to the roster for certain factions. For factions, see paradox's take on it: allies (democrats), fascists, communists, unalligned (anarchists, monarchy, etc.). Ww1 wasn't that big and devastating as ww2, ww2 would appeal to a lot of people, most of the player base of ww2 games (such as hoi4 and coh) come out of Asia, followed by Europe and then the US. Ww1 not gonna fly, neither is star wars. It also doesn't require ip rights, so reduction of costs, which for CA now is important.

Iam curious how they wanna Go for this francises. Like u said, it seems there must a new TWstyle probably. The other side: POV from outside CA seems lost contact to their roots completely. No Medieval 3, Rome 3 or Gunpowderlike new title. As far as i know without communicate some srs reasons. Are they fear to mess up their greatest games with a sequel?!