What's worse: having non-Asians play Asian roles or having Asians in your film but doing very stereotypical/cringey roles? I really don't know.

@thanos2830

5 жыл бұрын

Honestly, the first one is better

@Charles-tr5xn

5 жыл бұрын

As an Asian I would say the first one is better

@channyt8818

5 жыл бұрын

A non-Asian play Asian role, while doing stereotypical/cringed roles......(my opinion tho)

@archiviscera

5 жыл бұрын

I think the second one is worse.

@maryobiorah7442

5 жыл бұрын

They both bad 😭

Dear Hollywood, Asians exist. Cast them. Thank You, Everyone.

@MAXIMUS-yk5vs

5 жыл бұрын

No, because that’s Asian cinema made in Asian countries for people that live there. There are no such things as “white” movies. Just movies in America. And there are ALL types of people in America

@meginna8354

5 жыл бұрын

@@MAXIMUS-yk5vs there are also all types of people in Asia you dumb moron, 1% of Hong Kong is white, 2% of America is East Asian.

@sebastiansantos1471

4 жыл бұрын

I believe yes they should but ghost in the shell was ok in terms of casting...

@highland_persuasion

4 жыл бұрын

The problem is that there aren't enough Asian roles. And in those rare ones available, Asian actors still have to compete against their non-Asian counterparts to get them.

@Theo-bk6qj

4 жыл бұрын

megin na people who are Born outside of Asia are not Asian.

Flash forward to 2020 “Parasite” has became the first non English movie to win an Oscar 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼.

@smartaleks314

4 жыл бұрын

Vanessa Oscar for best picture*. There’s a category for foreign films, was just the first one to win best picture.

@zacheryjequinto7259

4 жыл бұрын

It's really rare for non American films to win an oscar. For example, Disney films every year get nominated, they're good, but studio ghibli and many others that are arguably better either don't win or get nominated in the first place.

@memaybeyou6276

4 жыл бұрын

@@zacheryjequinto7259 And also Disney has monopolized pretty much everything... SMH😒

@kimchi3497

4 жыл бұрын

Wrote the history.

@jtw10192

4 жыл бұрын

Parasite isn't a Hollywood movie though. Hollywood still has a long way to go.

And an Asian guy being rejected to play an Asian character in Netflix’s life adaptation of the anime Death Note.

@cchap2386

4 жыл бұрын

...dodged a bullet, it was a poorly done adaptation 😂

@gavinosuarez7398

4 жыл бұрын

Ever thought of the possibility that maybe he was just untalented at acting as to why he was rejected? Not everything is about race

@andrew-song

3 жыл бұрын

Gavino Suarez Ever thought why a white man is filling the role for a Japanese character? How can you argue that it’s not racially motivated, when race is considered in the first place?

@raquelf.1962

3 жыл бұрын

@@gavinosuarez7398 ok Gavino Suarez...you are right nothing is about race and there is no racism and you don't have a hispanic name. ok. got it.

@ihkeseteeietos5722

3 жыл бұрын

That's nightmare

And don’t get me started with the “Indian” actors...

@-maya-6498

4 жыл бұрын

Eperox skskskdjk ik their accents had me rolling ☠️🤣

@kay-wj3jx

4 жыл бұрын

What’s wrong with them?!

@Luka1180

4 жыл бұрын

@@sweetea777 I am pretty sure Spill that Tea meant their comment in a way like this, "What's wrong with them, how could they do that?!"

@sweetea777

4 жыл бұрын

Lukas Sprehn OHHHH

@rubyparker3606

4 жыл бұрын

ik omfg

I feel like Cloud Atlas was justified because it's about the characters being reincarnated. Halle Berry becomes a white Jewish woman, Doona Bae becomes a Mexican lady, Hugh Grant is a Hawaiian cannibal from the future, etc. The make up was reasonably convincing.

@Ryu62Alpha

8 жыл бұрын

+Noah Vickers Story-wise, it makes sense, but the make up was HORRIBLE

@ElizaWheeler79

8 жыл бұрын

I agree the whole point of Cloud Atalas os that was the souls of the individual characters re-incarnating along a specific time line and the best way to show that is by having the same people playing them

@johannag5403

8 жыл бұрын

+Noah Vickers I feel iffy about the actors playing other races, it's just weird. I think it would have been great if the characters were played by other actors every time they reincarnate.

@adrianofogli3842

8 жыл бұрын

+Nanny G ._.

@michaelcallahan8412

8 жыл бұрын

+Noah Vickers What about the several raunchy-type comedies whose characters weren't even meant to be taken seriously? Or the commercial with Ashton Kutcher which was similarly cast in a totally joking manner?

asians playing main characters are nowhere to be found but when hollywood needs people as market sellers or terrorists they got so many of them smh

@faustinuskaryadi6610

3 жыл бұрын

That's why Asian in Asia watch Asian movie if they wanted Asian as main Character.

@chesssenuggets3940

3 жыл бұрын

@@faustinuskaryadi6610 But asians arent asian Americans, so for asians America to watch asians TV to want a asian American main role isnt possible.. We are full blooded Americans and deserve the same respect as white ppl in America. This is our country grown and raised. Why can't whites just watch TV in Europe than. Wait i forgot, majority of them can't speak French, German, nor Romanian. Same with asian Americans, just cuz they are asians doesnt mean they automatically know Japanese, Korean, Chinese. Asian Americans arent foreginers in their homeland America , for majority of asians American this is their home. Why would any of us need to watch asian TV if we arent asian and we want our asian American representation on TV?

@tonto_kemosabe

3 жыл бұрын

@@chesssenuggets3940 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 Preach

@alex_n215

2 жыл бұрын

@@chesssenuggets3940 LET EM KNOW.

@stepbrohelpimstuck2480

2 жыл бұрын

@@chesssenuggets3940 Hey, at least your people get portrayed as smart and a 'model minority'.

the fact people think asian = having monolids scares me

@noticemesenpai69

3 жыл бұрын

Thank the Mongolians for that

@ALittleSumnSumn

3 жыл бұрын

I have double eyelids, but if I look up, I have monolids...

@feef1699

3 жыл бұрын

yeah! i’m asian and i have double lids, and so does my mom

@alikhanperiodt6483

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah they are many east Asians with double lids, they just use this stereotypical depiction of east Asians😐

@noodlesnook

3 жыл бұрын

anxious starstuff same here

Asia is not only consists of Japan, Korea, and China

@brandonchan5620

5 жыл бұрын

They did mention India

@jllso3291

5 жыл бұрын

They literally mentioned koreans, chinese, japanese, Tibetans, Filipinos, and Indians

@soyasony9232

5 жыл бұрын

I know riigggghhhtttt??!?!

@laobok

5 жыл бұрын

They mentioned other nationalities, stupid.

@save_bandit

5 жыл бұрын

Hanza Bachtiar did u watch the video dumbass?

still mad about Goku in Dragonball evolution

@horaceDH

7 жыл бұрын

Actully he isn't Asian or white. He's most likely Asian but since he's an alien he should look different than all races

@sws212

7 жыл бұрын

+Horace Galaxi it really doesn't matter that he was technically an alien, the movie basically stripped the original of any asian influence and basically made it into a generic disney movie where some high schooler gets super powers and has to save the world.

@flapjackson9962

7 жыл бұрын

+Beyondfate132 Honestly, that movie would have sucked no matter who played Goku or the color of his skin.

@sws212

7 жыл бұрын

Flap Jackson That's the whole point of my comment, the problem isn't just him being white, its the whole story being white as if DBZ had sex with saved by the bell.

@flapjackson9962

7 жыл бұрын

Beyondfate132 Yeah I was agreeing with you, while adding my 2 cents

1:25 i'm not asian but i'm offended as a member of the human race

@wisteria8871

4 жыл бұрын

THanK yoU everyone should have this decency

@juanchoresultay2704

4 жыл бұрын

1:28 literally my reaction when that white guy played as asian

@ms.ferretmanthing2404

4 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry I found it funny 😂😂😂

@savannahseals4348

4 жыл бұрын

I don't wear makeup, but even III can draw brows better than that

@philosoftfurkitusjunkyard2462

3 жыл бұрын

Bravo make up artists. Really got me. Sonmi too?

*There is no Avatar the Last Airbender movie in Ba Sing Se* Here we are safe _Here we are free_

@wisteria8871

4 жыл бұрын

There is no war in Ba Sing Se

@lillianaoneal9231

4 жыл бұрын

Hi I'm Ju-dee

@quanyuan6760

3 жыл бұрын

Sadly this movie has spread across earth, it exists every where, even political censored countries 😢

@YourLocalMairaaboo

3 жыл бұрын

@@quanyuan6760I hoped I wouldn't have to use this... *The Earth King invites you to Lake Laogai.*

@quanyuan6760

3 жыл бұрын

Henrique Martins There was "labor reform" and "labor education", the labor reform is just like what i said, criminals will work while they are in the jail, they get commutation and wages, and the "labor education" is a bit different, it's actually not counted as going in to the jail, it's a lighter punishment than being jailed, designed for those who committed crime but not bad enough to going in to the jail, mostly teenagers, their labor job in the jail is just for correcting their bad attitudes, this kinds of detention (in China this is like going in to jail but not that bad) was canceled at 2013, so teenagers no longer going in to a children jail nowadays

AND NOW WE HAVE CRAZY RICH ASIANS TO BRING US ASIANS JUSTICE!

@ngxinloo3323

5 жыл бұрын

Yasssssssssss

@sheppin_

5 жыл бұрын

Addie Mei YES

@msmaam2040

5 жыл бұрын

Never forget that they wanted to whitewash crazy rich asians but Kwan was having none of that

@sheppin_

5 жыл бұрын

samminos Yah and so are Japanese people and Koreans but we weren’t in crazy rich Asians. I’m pretty sure it was all Singaporean

@msmaam2040

5 жыл бұрын

@@sheppin_ lmak not even. Just check the wikipedia of the casts.

What makes it even worse is that no Japanese women were allowed to read for the part either, it was open only for white women, just like the hunger games.

@callanattwood9443

7 жыл бұрын

Hunger games was set in post apocalyptic america dude. So you can kinda get the idea for that specific role call.

@sakuradeva555

7 жыл бұрын

Callan Attwood so all people of color just died?

@callanattwood9443

7 жыл бұрын

Clarify for me, if you will, what Asian characters in the Hunger games novels was snubbed for a whitey.

@sakuradeva555

7 жыл бұрын

Callan Attwood none that I can recall but Katniss was supposed to be brown and they made her white.

@callanattwood9443

7 жыл бұрын

Katniss lives in District 12, also known as the Appalachia region of West Virginia. If we assume that the ethnic demographics of the futuristic Appalachia reflect District 12 demographics, maybe we can guess at Katniss' racial background. According to the Census Board, White persons make up 93.9% of West Virginia (compared to the national 72..4%). So, the odds are pretty overwhelming that Katniss is a white person (of indeterminable origin). Still, she could be in the remaining 4.1%! (Note that people of African descent constitute 3% of that 4.1%.)[3] If we make the very shaky assumption that District 12's racial demographics mirror modern demographics, the odds weigh heavily on Katniss being of Caucasian origin. Of course, Caucasians can come from North Africa, Middle East and some parts of Asia as well as Europe. www.quora.com/Is-Katniss-Everdeen-a-woman-of-color (get sourced)

Okay but... Her name is *Anna May* Wong... *Anime* Wong

@averageuser4651

4 жыл бұрын

I thought it was a joke or something 😂😂

@Nugcon

4 жыл бұрын

heckin weeb

@solomontsai8589

4 жыл бұрын

I used to think that "anime" is pronounce "ae-nahym"

@millardfillmore2869

3 жыл бұрын

Anime wrong

@NovikNikolovic

3 жыл бұрын

Rule 34 artists: WRITE THAT DOWN!!!

Reincarnated as Korean is... Wow

@darcyliz9993

3 жыл бұрын

@Afifa Mostafa Seriously tho. He's everywhere. Are there atleast 20 people with the same KZread account (Ray Mak)?😂

@astraeanatsuki3231

3 жыл бұрын

Why do I see you EVERYWHERE! Who are you 👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀

@Coookie772

3 жыл бұрын

Hi

@imbored7598

3 жыл бұрын

Bro you’re everywhere

@HowardGabrielPWacan

3 жыл бұрын

🍪

*we don’t talk about the Dragon Ball movie. That- that scarred me.*

@ineednothin6373

5 жыл бұрын

For life.

@marcusi.7740

5 жыл бұрын

the movie is just bad in general

@marcusallard8626

5 жыл бұрын

I was a very confused child after that movie

@snapmyneck8818

5 жыл бұрын

That’s a thing?!?

@dontrustwhiteyevery1

4 жыл бұрын

@@marcusi.7740 YEAH, whiteys fault.

Asian actors, Black actors, Latino actors - They are just as equally talented as white actors. The industry does not care about that though, they just want big-name white actors to sell their movies. The only beef here is that minority actors are not given a fair shot or even considered when in comes to casting decisions. That's what needs to change. Hollywood says the public will not see a movie with a non white actor lead, and as a consumer, I feel that's a bunch of crap. Give us a good movie and I promise you the masses will see it, regardless.

@andyxiong9519

8 жыл бұрын

w

@Kj16V

8 жыл бұрын

+Chilpoctli You what? TELL ME!! :D

@GumaroRVillamil

8 жыл бұрын

+Chilpoctli Sometimes it goes the other way, though. Oscar Issac, who is Guatemalan, was cast as English King John in Ridley Scott's Robin Hood. Just saying

@shinigamikiro

8 жыл бұрын

+Gumaro R. Villamil +Gumaro R. Villamil OK yes in that instance it did go the other way but if you think that makes it even, I'm sorry but no. Please find me another movie where that happens, and if you have to Google it then that only furthers my point. Look dude, I'm not here to argue the morality of yellow-face or white-face or whatever. I have my opinion, you have yours and I'm sure nothing we say to each other is gonna change that. I'm just stating a fact, that when it comes to Western main stream media, there's a disproportionate amount of minority actors to white. That's a fact. I bet most people would struggle to name 10 Asian actors, 15 Latino, or 20 Black but have no problem naming 50 white actors.

@psulionz87

8 жыл бұрын

+Gumaro R. Villamil Oscar Issac is half Guatemalan, his father is Cuban. He's still Caucasian, Hispanic yes, but Hispanic isn't a race, it's an ethnicity and Oscar is fairly light skin man

boo hollywood....cmon now time to glow up

@foolishspecialist7479

3 жыл бұрын

Underrated comment.

@mikezhao8544

3 жыл бұрын

'glow' is actually kinda racist... am I too sensitive? Probably so.

@kamophlage

3 жыл бұрын

I mean some people can read it as a misspelling of grow up. In some Asian accents the R sound is replaced with an L and vice versa. So grow would turn into glow.

@shenlechevalier8554

3 жыл бұрын

@@mikezhao8544 'sensitive' ? Yeah ir racist It's like that, weird

Why can't hollywood just accurately cast people? It's not that hard to get a Japanese actor who could do the role just as good as a white woman. It's like a pattern in behavior.

@peachyskeleton7484

2 жыл бұрын

@@nikolemiranda9640 her name is completely japanese and the whole thing plays in japan you have to be joking

@user-qx8bd5tb4g

2 жыл бұрын

@@nikolemiranda9640 Her name is motoko though

@DccAnh

2 жыл бұрын

@@nikolemiranda9640 No she is supposed to be Japanese, everyone who read the manga and watch the anime know it.

@DccAnh

2 жыл бұрын

@@nikolemiranda9640 they said they‘re ok with them use Scarlet to act as her, but everything they write about her indicate she’s Japanese.

@DccAnh

2 жыл бұрын

@@nikolemiranda9640 Also the movie fail, american alway try to whitewash everything, that’s why all of their anime adaptations fail.

Y'all really couldn't find a mixed Asian/Hawaiian? REALLY? LMFAO

@k.oRocky-hh5rx

5 жыл бұрын

jogatu they could; they just don’t want to

@jaycookie2912

4 жыл бұрын

They didn’t even have to look for that specific mix. Just someone that looks like it 💀

@mathisr.44

4 жыл бұрын

There are plenty of them IN Hawaii for God's sake!

@aliviaballenti4103

4 жыл бұрын

RIGHT??? Like in 50 first dates. When Rob Schneider played a native hawaiian.

@SlyHikari03

4 жыл бұрын

Logic.

every time they make a middle east they pick the most light skin person they can find

@PrincessNinja007

7 жыл бұрын

Revok Sixth And then when they use Indian actors it's to play an originally Chinese culture

@tigana

7 жыл бұрын

Same with black women. For some reason people are fine with casting dark skinned black men but a dark skinned black woman with afro texture hair are never chosen. And if she is, she is put at the butt of numerous racist jokes.

@navyblu8293

7 жыл бұрын

+tigana yes. exactly

@franslam7398

7 жыл бұрын

+tigana - the one-drop fuckery is behind that though. If all it takes is one drop to make someone black, then all Hollywood has to do is cast the lightest most racially ambiguous person they can find, put them in the black-female character role and tick off the diversity quota because black people in America accept anything as black anyway.

@silverfangmoonhunter

7 жыл бұрын

Revok Sixth Unless that character is supposed to be a "terrorist", then they find the darkest dude with the biggest beard.

It’s really shocking how this hasn’t been widely discussed. Also that this has been going on for so long and no one was talking about it ?!

@heycarlxyz

4 жыл бұрын

@ did people really hate it because of race? I thought the character itself is pretty bad. Nothing to do with her race imo.

@onlysunshine7492

3 жыл бұрын

And the sad part is, it’s happened recently and no one is talking abt it

@wrenegade6283

3 жыл бұрын

@@heycarlxyz the fans literally smothered her with racial slurs and bullied her off instagram. I'd say it's quite racist

@youtubeuser5808

3 жыл бұрын

Probably because people screams racist at almost anything other than Asians getting mocked on the TV and the west laughs like there's no tomorrow.

@shalmali-379

3 жыл бұрын

I'm sure asians were back then but no one cared

This is a shoutout to Grey's anatomy because of their lack of Filipino doctors and nurses

@tdog652041

Жыл бұрын

How can a hospital exist without Filipino staff ?

"(Rob) Schneider is a quarter Filipino so... progress?" I kinda feel bad for laughing hysterically at that line.

@anxiousweeb8753

4 жыл бұрын

Don't worry, we all did

@smalltiny

4 жыл бұрын

how asian is enough asian to play an asian

@birogdaniella3296

4 жыл бұрын

Tbh quarter Filipino Is not considered as part filipino Bc ur only quarter of it ;; Yeah they got the appearance But it's minimally seen or noticed

@jen3800

4 жыл бұрын

i don't. it was funny. ah, so ! vellly velly funny !

@Yesnog05

3 жыл бұрын

To be fair, he has claimed in many interviews and stand ups on how proud he is to be part filipino. Comparison to him in Chuck and Larry isnt the best, but his portrayal in Big Daddy and 50 first dates is the closest to representing a filipino than any white actor.

Honestly, they're creating more problems for themselves and the future of Hollywood by not casting Asians. Hollywood could cast more big-name Asians actors for different movies, if they would just cast some Asians for big movie roles.

@UNITARDABLE

6 жыл бұрын

Yoyo handsome Big wow here it is again

@Niaisbae

6 жыл бұрын

How about Seohyun oder Sooyoung? They are good actors. :x just an idea.

@goldensurfer8531

6 жыл бұрын

Gale K I agree, as an Asian American I have my own film studio!!! Hollywood you're making a HUGE MISTAKE!!! Pulp, Fictional times...

@julieswei1241

5 жыл бұрын

I agree! And nowadays the Asian film market is growing larger and larger, so there are plenty of actors to choose from. Not to mention the support that the film will gain if they cast an Asian actor for a great role!

I love that Hollywood pretends to be "diverse" and "inclusive" but when they do, it's just stereotypes, caricatures and black people. No offence to black people but blackwashing characters is not how one does diversity.

@denizjheerotaylor5409

2 жыл бұрын

Are you from twitter

@CelestialVulpine

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with what you said

Is it just me or the term "yellowface" is extremely racist?

@literallyjustdirt1520

3 жыл бұрын

?

@andrew-song

3 жыл бұрын

How? I could understand how the act of yellowface is racist (because it was made to be). But not the term..?

@ndiyabucaphukelaubusobakho1732

3 жыл бұрын

@@andrew-song People get offended over anything

@fartgirl6284

3 жыл бұрын

huh? it’s basically the same as saying black face. black ppl obviously don’t have black skin, and asian ppl don’t have yellow skin.

@Toxicplyer

3 жыл бұрын

If that's the case, than wouldn't "Blackface" be extremely racist?

White actor: *plays as asian* Asian actor: *plays as white person* *insert suprised pikachu face*

@idothehustletoomuch9431

4 жыл бұрын

Also asian actor & white actor : play as black people

@storm6245

4 жыл бұрын

I would like to see this one irl.

@idothehustletoomuch9431

4 жыл бұрын

@@storm6245 if you want to see Asian act white go see "Oh my English" that show really shows white fetishes more than study English...

@axellea1592

4 жыл бұрын

I mean, shouldn't happen none of them,I hope the spike Spiegel 's actor does a good job on the Netflix adaption of cowboy bebop,I hope it is even a good thing and not straight up garbage.

@Kacky

4 жыл бұрын

i can't think of a single white person who would be offended by that

I don't think Cloud atlas could be used as an example in this context. After all the movie did blackface, yellowface and 'whiteface' and a male actor portraying a female character. the whole main cast had multiple roles. The whole point of the story was the continuum between all the characters. In all the other movies i find it actually disgusting how they whitewash many fictional characters and then cast white actors, as if it would somehow be a bad thing to be anything other than white...

@joyineye

7 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@jkjkjk000jk

7 жыл бұрын

True true but at least the other "faces" didn't look like aliens. When I was watching that movie, I didn't realize that they were human for a few minutes.

@dmli1023

7 жыл бұрын

Asian here, and I agree.

@Takykardee

7 жыл бұрын

Well said. At first viewing I wondered if that particular timeline was a time when society considered looking "Korean" to be the desirable norm - even to the extent of having/being forced to have (shitty) plastic surgery. Like some kind of meta commentary. But that doesn't hold up with regards to the continuum-theory.

@Daleylife

7 жыл бұрын

Yep. Cloud Atlas is having its actors play all types of roles. It's for story, not just because.

Imagine my confusion as a kid when all the "native Africans" in Tarzan were white.

As an Asian, I'm really happy that in recent years we've been getting more *ACTUAL* representation. In the last 3 years, we've seen 2 Asian-directed films win Best Picture, a Marvel movie with an Asian MC, the first Asian to win Best Actress and the explosive popularity of Kpop. I'm glad that we can build a name for ourselves without having other races interfere and misrepresent us.

last airbender movie was just trash but the animated series was my favourite

@Clee-os6pv

5 жыл бұрын

+taegan: Too me? The whole thing was a delete scene!

@jauxro

5 жыл бұрын

The animated series is legendary

Proof that progress is very very very very slow.

@Baraborn

7 жыл бұрын

What progress ?

@jameszhang7780

6 жыл бұрын

nong Sick What You on fool??!!!

@jameszhang7780

6 жыл бұрын

NoobKiller Roof Progress= White Jealousy

@jasonomnia9295

6 жыл бұрын

@I'm Jack's Nipples Except the white barely make a minor dent in the population, and I don't know which of these Asian made movies you talked about, but even back when Bruce Lee was alive and was treated poorly by Hollywood (ran by overwhelmingly, if not all white people) but even his Chinese made movies allowed white and black actors in it, at a time when racism and bigotry was prevalent in America. And almost always when Asian creates films and movies it's usually based around their cultures, and the people of said cultures.

@jasonomnia9295

6 жыл бұрын

It goes to show you that nonwhites still gotta fight for opportunity in this country. And when issues like this relating to minorities struggle, right wingers, including the same ethnic people in that group, tries to put it down claiming it's not a problem or the problem is too little to even thought about. But when white right wingers sees nonwhites playing a role in Hollywood movies all of a sudden it's a problem that's gotta be said.

Calling them yellow is not a good look either, vox

@andersongodoi8080

2 жыл бұрын

Asians are yellow. Deal with it.

@jnmks

2 жыл бұрын

@@andersongodoi8080 indians are asians and they are brown

@NubiansNapata

2 жыл бұрын

@@jnmks think they meant oriental Asian

@sock7481

2 жыл бұрын

@@andersongodoi8080 nope racist

@orksca5459

2 жыл бұрын

nobody knows another term for yellowface. its a widespread term many people know so that's what they used. the term itself is problematic in my opinion because it should be separated from blackface because they're different issues but also it only considers pale east asians but should really include south asians, south west asians, etc b/c they're brown they don't have yellow undertones

invalid example: cloud atlas keeps the actors between reincarnation through history. in the previous reincarnation the asian woman of the couple was wearing white face. the plot would have been much more confusing if it wasnt for the yellow face and the white face, as the recognizable character faces allow us to match who is the reincarnation of what.

@SKeeetcher

3 жыл бұрын

Shush, don't bring logic and rationality into this.

@nikolemiranda9640

3 жыл бұрын

@@SKeeetcher ok I actually laughed out loud. Your reply is too accurate

@FlyingGrizz

3 жыл бұрын

Totally agree, cloud atlas couldn’t just have casted an actual Asian to play those roles. It had to be the same actors. They also casted Doona Bae for a major role and not a white actor

@faustinuskaryadi6610

3 жыл бұрын

@@FlyingGrizz Yes, as Asian I found Cloud Atlas is not problematic. They still let Donna Bae as lead role in Neo Seoul story arc.

@vladimirtchaikovsky6228

3 жыл бұрын

@@faustinuskaryadi6610 Yeah. She was there.

sure, go ahead and cast ppl of other race for a role. But don't give them "asian" makeups or "asian heritage" in the movie! Is it that hard to understand?

@007Fusiion

4 жыл бұрын

Kaitlyn Song So they are Asian but don’t look Asian ? That doesn’t work either

@mdCreationz

4 жыл бұрын

@@007Fusiion No, I think what Kaitlyn meant was reconfigure the story to fit a a non-asian ( presumably American) character. So the character is no longer asian and their stories are remodeled and tweaked to fit their western persona... Now I agree it's not possible with every story being told in Hollywood, but the ones that are purely fiction can have this, like they did with Jessica Alba's ' the eye' sort of...

@violettaschmieder2096

4 жыл бұрын

@@mdCreationz But wouldnt that also just erase asian people further from the public eye?

@inkmne

4 жыл бұрын

​@@violettaschmieder2096 Asians are pretty public, I mean you can't really forget that they exist. Most directors are white and for some of them, it might be easier to write a white character (I actually do this when I roleplay in MMOs) because they're familiar. I think that there's a broad range of Asian talent and that it's actual yellowface when they aren't cast for Asian parts, but if the director's vision is somehow changed by the character being Asian then I think it is right to change the nationality of the character.

@spartan1010101

4 жыл бұрын

Kaitlyn Song we all remember what happened when they tried that in DeathNote...Never again

Yeah.... Let's not bring up Avatar and Dragon Ball Z movies again please, they hurt too much.

@fairlysleepy

8 жыл бұрын

I know right? It's so bad I don't even know why they made it at the first place.

@bhaswaraarizon5012

8 жыл бұрын

and don't forget 2 things: -Michael Bay's Transformers is better than DB Evolution, so -All of you need to woke up & accept that Hollywood actually Support "Anime is Satan" movement

@UNITARDABLE

6 жыл бұрын

Yoyo handsome Big gotta save some money

@josephikrakowski334

6 жыл бұрын

I don’t even know why they mentioned avatar. None of the characters were Asian in the anime

@alphamcgregor341

6 жыл бұрын

White Lantern they were Asian

You know what? No one who really live in Asia care

Excuse me, Cloud Atlas has all the reasons for the actors to play an "asian role" EXACTLY because of the reincarnation, as all the actors throughout the movie play so many characters. Just like what you are claiming, you could say it's whitewashing when Doona Bae plays a white woman in one of the arcs. I don't disagree with the point of the video, just think this example was a very badly chosen one.

@junikim263

Жыл бұрын

Well said 👍

As an Asian person, I'd say living in Canada, there isn't much direct racism, although never seeing Asians in main roles kinda makes me feel like I'm not supposed to be a main character in the world. So thank you Vox for speaking up about this!

@Lenat26

5 жыл бұрын

You clearly don't even understand his comment smh.

@lisaaa4375

5 жыл бұрын

Tay Maree I think that in Canada or America in general, people are already more aware that there are many races and ethnicities who live there than in "Asia" (at least in S.Korea). There is also a big difference between S.K and Canada in terms of mixed populations, it's not really comparable

@80sbabe

5 жыл бұрын

But it's not as bad as in the US... Canadian shows have more Asian characters in shows and movies. I agree leads aren't really given to Asians. But look at shows like Kim's Convenience, and Second Jen. I remember seeing Asian characters in Katts and Dog, and Danger Bay where they didn't play stereotypical characters.... They played marine biologist and a cop. These were old shows decades ago. In film, Double Happiness with Sandra Oh which basically launched her career into a Gray's Anatomy, Arli$$, etc. So I think Canada showed more Asian representation earlier than America who weren't portrayed as waiters, restaurant and laundromat owners, gang members or martial artists. The only American show that had a positive Asian actor was George Takei's character in Star Trek. Huge Chinese and Asian in news ie. Andrew Chang (CBC), Mutsumi Takehashi (CTV Montréal - she's been there for decades!), and I'm sure there's more whether it be on national or regional newscasts. Personally, I think Canada is more progressive than the US in many respects. Remember, we pride ourselves on multiculturalism. Even South Asians like Ian Hanomansing, Camille Ross, etc are main anchors and hosts.

@gyz9599

5 жыл бұрын

Tay Maree are you..... are you brain dead?

@gyz9599

5 жыл бұрын

Tay Maree if it’s an ASIAN role, it should be played by an ASIAN actor. there is no need for a white person to play an Asian? it’s pretty offensive...

need an Asian oscars movement.

@lordmaximus5

8 жыл бұрын

kek

@COOLOD1

8 жыл бұрын

I need a Russian superpower, and a wasteland called America.

@nowdid

8 жыл бұрын

+COOLOD1 Bring it on; slick

@thesonski93

8 жыл бұрын

Rinko Kikuchi managed to get nominated for her role in 'Babel'.

@nowdid

8 жыл бұрын

thesonski93 Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon was one of the best movies I ever saw and that film was crawling with Asians.

This is a great video, with an important point. One small thing however - Tilda Swinton is not playing a Tibetan character. The production company couldn't sell the movie in China with a Tibetan character, so they changed the character to be Celtic. Tilda Swinton got cast to play a Celtic character. The film was hence sold in China.

@user-cw2py6wh8l

2 жыл бұрын

An Asian actor played Wong. They could have done the same for The Ancient One.

@spidermancares

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-cw2py6wh8l - you can’t have any characters that would seem as pro Tibet. Hence making a Tibetan character now white. The Chinese government would ban the whole film and probably subsequent films and even alot of Disney projects in their market. So oddly enough movie studios make choices that impact source material in order to be able to make a profit overseas. Take a look at Taskmaster in black widow, They had to change the costume because anything resembling a skull couldn’t be allowed in Chinese movie screens.

@user-cw2py6wh8l

2 жыл бұрын

@@spidermancares why white? there are other Asian characters living with the Ancient One in Tibet. Did China complain about the Asian characters? It's Hollywood White washing. Hollywood could have use the other Asian actors in the movie as the Ancient One.

Ironically, Korean entertainment now is the new Hollywood. Nobody watch American romance anymore!

@TiredHumanBeing

2 жыл бұрын

Thankfully so

@Princess-xq8ks

2 жыл бұрын

Bruh....

Here come the people screaming "the best actors get the job race shouldnt matter" Salty.

@kimmichelle87

7 жыл бұрын

ikr? meanwhile if that mindset was shared in the academic world, affirmative action wouldn't exist. "the best actors get the job, race shouldn't matter" VS "it doesn't matter how good of a student you are, as long as your race meets the school quota, you'll be accepted". smh.

@tompov227

7 жыл бұрын

mishi kim no dumbass the whole point of those things are bc that isnt what happens

@ethan7293

7 жыл бұрын

Adam Blackler are you saying all Asians are bad actors?

@jmrdefender510

7 жыл бұрын

i am half asian and idgaf about race, cast who u want i care about people's acting skills not their race

@brashlybold8805

7 жыл бұрын

No the smiley face said you're salty, your opinion means nothing apparently. They should remove all acting colleges/classes and just hire random ethnic group people because that is a far superior system. Lol imagine going to the movies watching terrible actors all hazily thrown together based on their ethnic backgrounds, you'd probably think you were watching a home movie or some KZread footage because of the poor acting, hey if your a minority race like me we could be a in a movie together acting terribly!

why so many dislikes though this video was informative and well put together

@twamy

8 жыл бұрын

+dhodz hoddy L

@themiddleman5886

8 жыл бұрын

That's a joke right?

@Octorock48

8 жыл бұрын

Lol no

@erroldtumaque3430

8 жыл бұрын

+The Middle Man no? i honestly don't get whats wrong with it

@Dohnutninja1337

8 жыл бұрын

+Errold Tumaque I feel like, and I try to not bring emotions into this but they're kind of relevant, that people are getting upset with the fact that the 'reporting' leaves quite a bit to be desired. They're making the issue about race, thus, some feel that it implies racism towards whites because it actually is racist to tell a specific race 'hey, you can't do that because you're [specific race]'. That leads to the fighting in the comments etc etc. The real issue, in my opinion, is that not everything is being considered. By this I mean that Vox is postulating that race alone is the reason why an actor can not be cast as another race not their own, rather than something reasonable such as they have better skills or chemistry for the project they are working on. While they do have a point in the fact that there is some misrepresentation that is not what should be the main point, the idea that skills>race should be the main point. Sorry for rambling, it's a very complex subject and it takes a lot of thought to fully wrap one's head around it. tl;dr: Misrepresentation should be the main focus, not the race of the individual vs the race of another, i.e. making it about race usually leads to racism in itself.

CLOUD ATLAS is such a maligned movie. It should not be taken at... Literally face value. You have to watch the movie to understand the underlying tone and message. Also, to understand why a character is depicted in different races makeup meant to illustrate reincarnation and karma.

@mukulseth

3 жыл бұрын

I'm glad someone said this.. Otherwise I was going to have to. 👍

@mukulseth

3 жыл бұрын

also a reminder.. non-white actors played white characters as well for the same reason.

Remember the "Nepalese" guy in Indiana Jones that was played by Malcom Weaver.

In Asia, we don't paint Asian white to play white character, we just hire one. Only one exception, when the character is Jesus, we hire Korean to play him.

@chelsrn3184

6 жыл бұрын

But they do like to put on blackface all the time

@kuddlecat

6 жыл бұрын

That’s not true, in Japan whenever they adapt a movie from a novel or anime or there’s a comercial and the characters are western they still hire Asian actors and they even use white/black/latino stereotypes and racist jokes sometimes and I don’t see anyone giving a bat about that Not only japan but I’ve seen China and other Asian countries do this too

@rumblefish9

6 жыл бұрын

Explain FULLMETAL ALCHEMIST then. How a fictional country in the manga supposedly based on Germany has Japanese people in blonde wigs.

@user-dg1dh3xt3f

6 жыл бұрын

jesus isnt white who lied to you

@shannont6764

6 жыл бұрын

in Asia, Jesus and Buddha went for a Roller coaster ride.

Call me a special snowflake or a triggered liberal but this is true: Representation Matters. When I was little I rarely saw any asian characters in books or movies. (except for mulan) I started wishing In was white from the age of FOUR. i remember dressing up as a cinderella and wearing a yellow scarf on my head for “blonde” hair and wishing i could just disappear into that character. not because theatrical reasons (i have not acting talent whatsoever) but because i just wished I wasn’t chinese. i felt different, less valued, and less beautiful from everyone else. by the way, I am not exaggerating at all. as a child I always had a big imagination and in my daydreams i was always white. i never thought of it as a problem until many years later looking back. I hated being chinese almost up until middle school. yeah, the push of asian american representation seems so microscopic in the midst of things but this could make many little asian american kids happier and prouder of their beautiful ethnic background. at least it would’ve helped mini me. sorry for this little rant with horrible capitalization i just needed to get it off my chest:)

@busycrying

6 жыл бұрын

Gabby I feel you. Western movies and shows filled the television slots for my dad and mom when I was a kid, at the age of 3 or 4 I wondered why I wasn’t born in America. When the ABC comedy series Fresh Off The Boat came out, I was so happy to see an Asian American family acting just the same way as my family did, but on TV. Representation DOES matter.

@taurus7911

6 жыл бұрын

Zhi Hzccz this country is like 50% white, it’s not a white country either. You can’t just ignore the way the other 50% grows up

@vv-fh9tb

6 жыл бұрын

Gabby Same. Being raised Asian-American is scary. I wasn't familiar with people or, famous celeberties "like me". I thought I was a outcast as a kid since when I pretended to be a superhero or a celeberity they would mock me with gibberish and stretch their eyes

@taurus7911

6 жыл бұрын

Vi Le lmfao white people wont understand. They don’t feel like they don’t belong because of their race. I use to have such an inferiority complex because whenever Asians were on tv it was to mock them.

@busycrying

6 жыл бұрын

That's such a mean gesture to do to someone! I feel so sorry for you. Nobody deserves to be mocked that way.

That face reborn as Korean is just hilarious

real asian face to white asian face: "who are you"

1:08 she kinda looks like lord farquaad

@yashvipatel3068

4 жыл бұрын

weiwei and Edna😂

@forgottenhoshi5737

3 жыл бұрын

She's from that movie she devil it's great movie should totally check it out :)

Did you all not watch Cloud Atlas or did you just not understand it? The same souls are being reincarnated in different genders and different races, any of the Korean parts who were not reincarnations of characters seen earlier would have gone to Koreans. Halle Berry, for example, was incarnated as a white person at one point. If anything that film played with and questioned the way Hollywood casts people. All that went right over your heads! I think the message that souls don't have a race was wonderful, and you had to spit on that! There was also the suggestion that souls did possibly have a gender, and with a transgender writer and director you can see how the theme would resonate and be taken seriously.

@user-uu5dc6wr6h

8 жыл бұрын

You're comment only applies to that one movie. This video talks about the lack of racial representation in general.

@nkdarkturtle5764

8 жыл бұрын

+Rachel Cho An example is an example; The fact that it's 1 in so many, doesn't change the fact that it's still a thing. Yellowface is only a small percentage of all movies, but that doesn't make it any less of an issue.

@Rabbitthat

8 жыл бұрын

KZread IS THE FRONT LINES OF MODERN PHILOSOPHICAL DISCOURSE

Not to talk about how they hired white actors for the Netflix adaptation of Death Note. Like come on 🙄

Tilda Swinton being cast as the Ancient One was directly meant to avoid perpetuating the "Mystical Asian" stereotype.

If you were born in Japan, it means you lived your childhood in a homogenous society --- Asian people everywhere, representation 100%. To Asian-Americans who were born in the United States, though, this matters so, so much. They're rarely given a voice. Please view it from their perspective.

@novastarhealing

6 жыл бұрын

Nguyen Le Phuc I agree so much with this.

@georgemichaelz262

6 жыл бұрын

It's the whole "Asians are only foreigners" myth that gets projected in film and television that is very damaging imo. You are right too. There are many many Asian-Americans born and raised here. Yet people always treat them like they are foreigners from "somewhere else" and are viewed with disdain from the "locals" in some places. Sad :(

@wonhoscake1214

6 жыл бұрын

I was born and raised in nyc where there was a lot of diversity in cultures so I don’t fully understand. However, when I visited Oregon, there wasn’t a handful of Asian there so it felt like they treated us as foreigners

@thetruthfulchannel6348

6 жыл бұрын

Vox has another video called "The myth of race, debunked in 3 minutes" claiming that "race isn't real." So, how can they make this video? Hypocrites! It's called acting. Get over it. There's plenty of white characters portrayed by non-white actors. It works both ways. And, according to your previous video, there's no way to prove that Emma Stone is not Asian. In Cloud Atlas, the movie mentioned in this video, Halle Barry plays a white woman in one of the sequences. The whole point of that movie was that you had a few actors each playing several different roles, many of different races, timelines, etc.

@kevinpaje

6 жыл бұрын

LOL. You clearly didn't understand the gist of the video. Race isn't real but racism is.

I don't think cloud atlas should be included. Both the Korean and black actors were put in whiteface for the movie. All the main actors went through race transformations.

@yeon723

8 жыл бұрын

+Conswa McGaga Not to mention the entire story is based on changing ethnicity. Bad example

@macmurfy2jka

8 жыл бұрын

Totally agree here. The who point of that story was to show the reincarnations of the same people in the differing roles, races, and stories. It was essential and integral to the story. No was was pretending to be any single race but more acting as a single multiracial entity. Boo, on you Vox. That movie was the exception and you know it.

@Zaugr

8 жыл бұрын

Yup. It's just ignorant, retarded social justice warriors having no clue what they're talking about.

1:26 _Cloud Atlas_ shouldn't be an example of yellowface. The reason why they are white actors in makeup is because the plot [sort of] incorporates the concept of *souls* - different bodies/lives, but the same old soul (reincarnation, essentially.) Now if you want to show that in a movie but can't directly explain it to the audience, having the same actors but in different costumes or makeup is already the best way to do so. If you cast different characters to play the same soul for the sake of accuracy and diversity, that would be hella confusing. It's not just them who was put into makeup to play a different ethnicity though. *ONE* of Halle Berry (a black woman)'s characters was an Indian and Doona Bae (the Korean shown in the video) also played a Mexican mom.

@maggiejetson7904

2 жыл бұрын

Then why don't they start with someone mixed?

i researched this topic for a school project and boy was that depressing. just looking at the list of actors I loved and admired who had done these things and never say anything wrong with it was truly heartbreaking. i also realised that I could only think of one non stereotypical asian character which was really sad because looking back at all the shows and movies I loved with asians, although some were progressive, they still had a lot of stereotypes. it only reminds me how much work we have left to be done

with china becoming a huge market in the movie industry now, they better start casting more chinese actors

@dramaticvirghoe

6 жыл бұрын

juki0h tuki yep, it’s happening, they’re casting Liu Yifei as Mulan in the live action movie, thank god it’s not someone like Scarlett Johansson

@hc3733

6 жыл бұрын

stopped watching shallow-storied pathetic hollywood crap long time ago

@anicaxie570

6 жыл бұрын

CDLLBOSS Lee 骂谁呢！ 你一辈子都没她有才华

@sowhat6025

6 жыл бұрын

we better say they ran out of excuses using White women for this character

@emmabila3480

6 жыл бұрын

like that hot chick in the great wall and king kong?

The cloud atlas guy was a korean character??????? His home was full on oriental japanese and there wasn’t a single korean feature in his home wtaf

@genevieveowusu885

5 жыл бұрын

Q L Seriously?

@unknowngaming1432

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe a Korean that is heavily interested in Japanes culture? I dont know.

@user-if8vx1mw3e

4 жыл бұрын

@@unknowngaming1432 knowingly what history koreans have with Japan I doubt mate

@moxenremon3251

4 жыл бұрын

Coming from people who wear dreads, it's not surprising they think the ornaments are the same for all East Asians

@cam0987

4 жыл бұрын

@@moxenremon3251 ikr

But she’s a robot in ghost in a shell so...

@MJW238

3 жыл бұрын

And Scarlett Johansen isn’t a robot.

@leiselr5135

3 жыл бұрын

I was watching commentary on the topic and a youtuber of Chinese descent said it was disapppointing that they cast Scarlet as they kept the Japenese/Asian scenery but just because the main character didn't necessarily have to be Asian they didn't cast an Asian. This on top of Hollywood history of using White actors to depict Asian characters or an Asian actor of a different race to the character they are portraying, for example casting a Chinese person to portray a Japenese character.

That’s a very short video. I’m sure there’s more to be said about the topic than just this.

The most racist industry

@baisetoi2956

6 жыл бұрын

That is white people, and jews for you, man.

@bigfatbear3673

6 жыл бұрын

Thats false, remember slavery??

@auritone

5 жыл бұрын

Really!? Just as it's racist for Asian countries to remake western movies with all Asian casts...?

@mou6854

5 жыл бұрын

auritone and where have you seen this I’ve seen Asian films with Americans portrayed as Americans

@auritone

5 жыл бұрын

YaBoiMou Here's a little list you can go through that I posted in a comment. All of these western movies, plus a lot more have been remade in Asia with Asian casts. "The remains of the Day", "A Few Good Men", "Sideways", Breaking Away", "When Harry met Sally", "Entourage", "Only You", "Primal Fear", "I Know what you did last Summer", "West Side Story", "The Good Wife", "Philadelphia", "It happened one Night", "Cellular", "Unforgiven", "Ghost", "It", "On the Waterfront", "Le Diner De Cons", "Knight and Day", "Lost", "Gone Girl", "The Miracle Worker", "Cold Case", "Seven Brides for Seven Brothers", "Ugly Betty", "Overboard", "U-Turn", "Reservoir Dogs", "Mrs. Doubtfire", "The Godfather", "The Silence of the Lambs", "A Kiss before Dying", "Kramer Vs Kramer", "12 Angry Men", "Chinatown", "Cavité", "What women Want", "Blood Simple", "A Nightmare on Elm Street" etc etc etc. I was even made aware there is a Nigerian remake of Titanic out there somewhere...

Representation matters. but please don't cast a black man to play L. (Netflix)

@silasnormann6550

5 жыл бұрын

L should be the palest most disgusting human being who hasn't showered in months, since he's literally a walking brain, his body is just there. Black L looks ways to clean, you just don't get the sense that this guy literally spends all this time indoors infront of a pc.

@bonelesscommunism4031

5 жыл бұрын

kuro neko I’m okay with subtle representation but most representation in the media is “HEY IM BLACK what’s your name? My names black guy I’m black did you know I’m black it’s pretty hard to be black you know I know cause I’m black.”

@sydneylightbourn7726

5 жыл бұрын

what show is this

@Momo-xm6ls

5 жыл бұрын

Sydney Lightbourn the unholy movie adaptation of Death Note

@daisychainmilk

5 жыл бұрын

L isnt Asian. L is white.

Why is everyone focused on race nowadays?

@rei3268

3 жыл бұрын

because it's a big deal, which rock do you live under?

@dylanrice8341

3 жыл бұрын

@@rei3268 why tho

@rei3268

3 жыл бұрын

@@dylanrice8341 because the world is divided into colour of skin, and depending on white colour you were born with, it dictates how you travel through life. that shouldn't be a thing. nobody should have to suffer just because they aren't a certain colour.

Yellowface is bad Blackface is bad Brownface is bad Whiteface is bad This is not up for discussion

NO idea why this video has so many down votes.....did people just read the title and call it a day? Everything seemed on point.

@rangergxi

8 жыл бұрын

+Gmork People can disagree silly.

@rangergxi

8 жыл бұрын

+Gmork They also imply stuff like "racist jokes are never ok" and "NO! Only people of X race can play X race", etc/

@hatchibyebye

8 жыл бұрын

+Gmork Some people like to pretend that racism hasn't existed since slavery and don't like to be reminded of the reality.

@Rabbitthat

8 жыл бұрын

+Gmork Have you seen Cloud Atlas? one of its underlying themes was a criticism of racism, and you could argue it criticized yellowface and blackface. Halle Berry played a white woman in it, for example. This video was a very superficial review of a very serious problem that people take seriously. When people just vomit up a poorly researched video like this with such flippancy they discourage people from taking the point seriously! On the other hand, I'd say any of the down voters who didn't down vote it for being so shallow are probably just racists who think it's okay that most hollywood movies only have white actors and that of the top 15 cast there are never more than 3 women.

@pr0n3

8 жыл бұрын

thisjerksaguy Ugh, you still don't get it.

And its not only in hollywood too, we were playing this play for a theatre and there was a Chinese actress better than ANYONE in there and yet she didn't get picked, but the ones who did were all white

Isn't the point of acting to play dress up and pretend you are something you aren't? I mean isn't that why we have a black actress playing Anne Boleyn.

@epsilonxvi5675

Жыл бұрын

yet you get mad if asian and black is a viking or a european knight lol

I remember seeing Harry shum jr in an Interview and his body language and gestures were so familiar. Then it hit me that he reminded me of my friends and family. I realized I’ve seen his body language in real life and never on the screen. It was a moment where I was like “yes! This is familiar and comforting and I want more!” I’m half Asian.

when you said “filipino” i almost dropped the food in my hand i never expected anyone to actually mention us lol vox you guys are awesome

@UNITARDABLE

6 жыл бұрын

Yoyo handsome Big I had one

@meginna8354

6 жыл бұрын

Yoyo handome Big You´re so pathetically stupid and brainwashed, it´s sad

@noeimhorror590

6 жыл бұрын

j wat..

@fdj4601

6 жыл бұрын

nutcracker when ppl think asia they think china and japan while the philippines gets constantly passed over- to american born filipinos (like me) they feel invisible and often feel distanced from their culture

@fdj4601

6 жыл бұрын

nutcracker that’s perfectly valid, and that’s your own experience. but a lot of other filipino-americans (especially those who don’t live in an area with a lot of asian-americans like me) feel this way, which is why some get astonished when their own ethnicity is acknowledged

Cloud Atlas is a poor example. One of the purposes of using the same actors throughout the film was to provide story line continuity, not because they didn't want to hire other actors. It's a movie that hasn't engaged in whitewashing. Not sure why it was brought up; you had hundreds of other examples at your disposable.

@st105900

7 жыл бұрын

the cloud atlas example felt strange to me too.

@Phoenix24Leas

7 жыл бұрын

Agreed, its similar to just looking at the trailer of the movie without having actually watched it. The Great Wall with Matt Damon is also quite controversial too but actually I believe the Chinese funded it to promote Chinese culture and used Matt Damon because he was a big name and could bring in sales. In a sense, Matt Damon is used as a trojan horse against American audiences because Hollywood felt it wouldn't be enough to have only Chinese actors in the film. That being said, I still agree with the majority of the video

@personalitybot

7 жыл бұрын

It is and it isn't. It's just a weird example. The sound design behind Hugo Weaving messing with Tom Hanks as the devil was extremely good. Everything else was just weird.

@keithbos4506

7 жыл бұрын

I agree, Cloud Atlas is a poor example. It has Asian cast members playing white and Latino characters.

@mistabook

7 жыл бұрын

You have to admit, though, when you see those white actors in that alien-ish makeup that's supposed to make them look Asian, it's startling and more than a little grotesque. I can easily see why people would find it offputting or offensive.

Ah yes, hollywood is willing to make the little mermaid black but can't hire an asian actor to fulfill the role of an asian character...

Anyone watched Ryan Murphy's "Hollywood"? He let's Anime Wong shine 🌟 makes me so happy.

@user-hb4zz4gh5e

3 жыл бұрын

jackflashx Ikr! It was so cool seeing her and what could have been

Avatar: The Last Airbender the movie was an abomination and an utter disappointment, and it's not just due to the bizzare yellowface/brownface (of every main character! An Indian guy played Zuko???)

@Skinnymarks

8 жыл бұрын

I understood the fire nation to be Japanese. earth nation yo be China. water nation to be inuit and the air nomads to be Tibetan. if you wanted to be very percise about racial consistant.

@francispena2818

8 жыл бұрын

Skinnymarks fire nation Japanese? How is that referenced anywhere? I understand the rest just not that one

@MikhaelHld

8 жыл бұрын

+gustavo pena +Skinnymarks I agree with Skinnymarks, however, East Asian looking actors would've made it a bit better for the nations other than the Water tribe and "doing justice" do the original series. I feel like it's Japanese in the sense of their names, Zuko, Azula, Lord Ozai, which sounds Japanese and other elements that I don't have the time to explain now.

@francispena2818

8 жыл бұрын

Michail Highland hmmm... Ill just state what's going through my head There are three cultural references in the fire nation Pre Colombian Mexican Indian And Japanese Thoughts?

@Skinnymarks

8 жыл бұрын

gustavo pena because the fire nation is a chain of islands next to the earth nation. Much like Japan is next to China. Also there is a lot of Japanese cultural immagery in the fire nation. Earth nation has a lot of China cultural immagery Water nation Inuit. And air nomads have a bit of a mix of Indian and Tibetan cultural immagery. Though to be fair Tibet and India did influance eachother religious and cultural features quite a bit.

Im white and this is just- nO why and the jokes they ad to it is disgusting.

This should be longer!

"Goku" was a pain to watch.

No, goku is fine as a white guy. No actor wants to be associated with that terrible movie, and I think some Asian actor dodged a career ending bullet

@sleepyninjarin7971

6 жыл бұрын

it is racism, and they should have hired an alien actor!

@Clee-os6pv

5 жыл бұрын

+Ionlymadethistoleavecoments: That movie sucked ass! And? Guilty of Whitewashing! The Han Chinese verison made in Taiwan was way better. At least the casting was done right!

As a Asian (Filipino) I felt disturbed when i saw the live action avatar

I'm Indian, I find those Indian renditions amusing! 😂🤣😂🤣 Kutcher killed it!

@dodec8449

3 жыл бұрын

That's ok, but realize that these kind of characters are sometimes the only Indians people see in their life (especially in childhood, when many prejudices are formed).

@jimbeam8338

2 жыл бұрын

@@dodec8449 Bollywood exists btw

Damn

@papi1050

6 жыл бұрын

RawVegan PeacefulGoddess they don't often look white though. Just because their features are not particularly Asian, doesn't mean they are white. Also many anime series are not set in Japan (FMA, attack on Titan etc.).

@WoodChoppa911

6 жыл бұрын

RawVegan PeacefulGoddess i don't think anybody will say that most anime characters are asian, the characters were made to be different from them, so it would not be normal and boring

@MrGamelover23

6 жыл бұрын

RawVegan PeacefulGoddess Well, historically they the artstyle was inspired by American cartoons. But yeah, kind of odd to me too.

@vinbono9897

6 жыл бұрын

I mean hey, we let girls play the role of men and no one cares.

@MrGamelover23

6 жыл бұрын

Strigidae Strigiformes I mean you're not the only one who thinks that about anime.

The Cloud Atlas reference is not fair. Everyone plays different races and genders in that movie.

@NME10E

8 жыл бұрын

Sorry I wrote my comment before reading yours.

@djryanashton

8 жыл бұрын

I think the Wakowskis wanted to use the same actors as a statement on gender reassignment. I still don't think Cloud Atlas is a fair reference.

@krandaman1

8 жыл бұрын

Agree, cloud atlas is showing the same soul reincarnated in different eras of time. Also one of the leads Doona Bae is Korean and equally reincarnated as different races. I think one of the central themes of the movie is that races and genders are immaterial, it's an exploration of the soul as being more important than what's on the outside. Yet every criticism is about what's on the outside...

@djryanashton

8 жыл бұрын

krandaman1 Exactly :)

@raeldrikp

7 жыл бұрын

Really bad movie, IMO, but yeah its not a real "offender."

we don't need hollywood to make asian movies, because asians are already making masterpieces.

Bollywood did a movie on Mary Kom, a sportsperson from Manipur in Northeast India. Ironically non of the main character including Mary Kom in the movie were from the Northeast, they were all Bollywood A list actors in Yellow Face. Talk about racism in Bolywood, sheesh.

I’m a quarter Asian and when she said the guy was a quarter Asian and was like “progress?” That hurt

@alexsmith2910

4 жыл бұрын

Hopefully it will get better for minorities.

@blue3374

4 жыл бұрын

In my country in Asia, half Asians are not even considered Asian so you’re as “non Asian” as you can get according to them if you’re only a quarter 💀

@smalltiny

4 жыл бұрын

sorry hon, you aren't enough asian for this woman.

@TimLimDimSims

4 жыл бұрын

Well some Filipinos tend to already be not fully Asian. Not all of them mind you. But a lot of Filipinos I've seen already look half Asian.

@janlorenzabellana4206

4 жыл бұрын

@@TimLimDimSims Filipinos, Indonesians, Malaysians, and basically Southeast Asia belong in a group called Malay. Yes, we kind of differ from Northeast Asians thats because we mixed with other indegenous groups in our areas.

Matt Damon playing the lead in The Great Wall... Just saying ...

@DigitalYojimbo

7 жыл бұрын

damnjustassignmeone weren't the characters portrayed Caucasian ? the issue is when roles made for Asian are not being portrayed as Asians.

@damnjustassignmeone

7 жыл бұрын

DigitalYojimbo All I know is that an Asian guy is never the hero in Hollywood. Big historical action adventure move set in ancient China? Write it for a white guy to save the day.

@astrea79

7 жыл бұрын

Because it's a movie designed for the Chinese market and they love Matt Damon for whatever reason.

@DianitaYoutube

6 жыл бұрын

damnjustassignmeone Well he play the rol of merchant he could be white unless being a merchant from Europe means he has to be asian..

@fausto8686

6 жыл бұрын

He played a character who wasn’t Asian tho....

Calling it "Yellowface" is also racist.

Its laughable that they tried saying scarlet Johansson's casting was yellowface

Agree with everything except the Clout Atlas comment. That wasn't necessarily "yellow face." The story wasn't attempting to make Hugo Weaving an asian caricature or "white wash" that character. It was based on the premise that our soul moves from one body to another, and we are reincarnated again and again as different people, races, in different times and places.

@ssayima

8 жыл бұрын

+Chris M I know. I also felt like the Cloud Atlas comment was uncalled for.Plus the Asian actress was in "white face", if thats a thing, at the end of the movie how come that wasn't a problem? The premise of the movie was so that all the actors play their various reincarnation forms. I agree with everything else tho.

@Neville60001

7 жыл бұрын

Guy, get a clue, get your head out of your ass, and get over yourself as a white person.

@ivanahernandez8774

7 жыл бұрын

Neville600

This is so angering. Hollywood was built to essentially be white people congratulating other white people on their talents to be watched by other white people. They were even going to try and whitewash a live-action version of Mulan but everyone was pissed. Me included. The whole movie is based on Chinese culture and a sense of duty and honour prevalent in Asian households so whitewashing that would be distracting, confusing and extremely distasteful in the kindest words. I didn’t even bother watching the movie with Emma Stone cause I realised this was the biggest bull, as if they don’t have any other roles to take?? Seriously?? Take someone else’s idea and don’t even stay true to the character and their identity!

@goathead5073

5 жыл бұрын

Emma Stone was in Mulan?

@imyuta2607

5 жыл бұрын

I don’t care if Emma Stones was in Mulan, because it’s a good movie nonetheless lol.

@faflamingo2193

5 жыл бұрын

The creator of ghost in the shell approved it. m.ign.com/articles/2017/03/21/original-ghost-in-the-shell-director-mamoru-oshii-has-no-problem-with-live-action-remake

@jeremygonzales5954

5 жыл бұрын

...but a lot of the producers for these films were Ashkenazi-Euro mixed. I don't care either way, but it isn't exclusively a "white thing."

@lachlanparkes958

5 жыл бұрын

I highly doubt Hollywood is built around racist white people. You making all of these accusations are a little hypocritical, don't you think? You're saying Hollywood is white people congratulating white people and being watched by white people. Pretty racist to me if I'm going to be honest. If you haven't noticed, there is a lot more diversity in actors nowadays in terms of gender, sexual orientation and race than there was in previous decades. We're making progress, but I don't think you understand how talent works. There are talented people of colour in the film industry and a lot of them are absolutely fantastic to watch, but they're talented. We can't have this equal diversity of people in a certain industry if there isn't an equal distribution of talent, you feel me? It's progressing, but currently it's just not the case lmao. About the whitewashing, I don't overly mind or find it too offensive unless it's too overboard like Ashton Kutcher was. It's not the fault of film companies to want to make money from their films and the best way they'll do that is to put a common famous celebrity in their film. They could hire an appropriate cast for each role according to their race in the film, but why does it matter so much? I mean it's obviously not to make fun of that race or discriminate against the race otherwise they wouldn't be making a serious film with a character of colour. It doesn't make sense to me why that might be offensive at all.

The funny thing is is that the people of Japan loved Scarlets performance so is it really racist?

"You can't change somebody's races and make it legit" EDDIE MURPHY: Hold my beer...

The irony of people who attack pieces like this for being "SJW" or "PC" is that they are clearly threatened by the opinion presented, yet criticize those making the argument as "oversensitive." Yet cast one or even "gasp" TWO Star Wars movies in a row with female and minority leads and those people immediately start complaining in the comment sections that it's the result of liberal SJW control of the film industry.

@NotJamesWhelan

8 жыл бұрын

+Neal X I don't think it's as cut and dry as that. I think ordinary people who don't think about this stuff all day long have a hard time distinguishing between a good, relevant piece like this and hack opinion pieces. For example, the other day Vox posted a criticism of Kimmy Schmidt for Titus's yellow face play. It was a grossly unfair hot take that deliberately ignored the context of what Kimmy Schmidt is as a show and the style of commentary it does. There is a legitimate feeling that some elements of the media are using throaty opinion pieces to silence reasonable disagreements. Disagreements that aren't racist but maybe do want some objectivity in editorials. Often the motivations of new media companies like Vox, Buzzfeed, Mic, etc. aren't based in actually solving racial inequality, they're focused on stoking certain uncomfortable cultural differences to drive clicks. So my point is that there will of course be outrageously bigoted responses to a piece like this but they're not always based in pure racial hatred like it appears at first. And the more moderate disagreeable responses certainly aren't. Often it is just ordinary people who incorrectly judge this to be just another example of that editorial overreach. The culture of some of these companies (liberal and conservative) are often so uniform that a reasonable amount of debate doesn't happen at an editorial level. Often there is one opinion that is never challenged, and because these new media companies are overtaking old media like the NY Times, Washington Post, etc. as our main sources of news, a lot of normally moderate people get quite angry about the lack of balance and have reasonable fears about our right to disagree without being attacked. Balance doesn't necessarily mean letting Rush Limbaugh write a guest post, but it might mean keeping someone on staff who at least values the moderate opinion. I really think we as a culture have to stop labelling our opponents as outrightly bad just because they disagree with us. Their motivations aren't always what they first appear.

Cloud Atlas is not a good example, it was the point of the movie. All of the cast played different characters of different ethnicity, gender in different timeline. The korean girl seen in the scene with him had also played the role of a rich white woman a spanish lady. It's not a fair example

@cossaizy6309

5 жыл бұрын

The part about sgt motuko was also unfair, her robotic body was clearly white compared to the japanese population around her

@cossaizy6309

5 жыл бұрын

@@bluenorth3965 the others i understand, i was only talking about her

@sujoidebb5700

5 жыл бұрын

They made her a dam GINGER beautiful done 😂

@NOG9003

5 жыл бұрын

Mindy Park (The Martian) doesn't make much sense either. I believe Park is a common Korean name but no description of race is ever given with the character in the book. Funnily the explicit racial change they did make was Venket Kupur. He was an older Indian man and they replaced him with a younger black actor. I wonder why that wasn't mentioned.

@arturomartinez462

4 жыл бұрын

Hispanic lady, Hispanic isn't the same as Spanish.

as an indian im not offended......

Thanks for publishing this video.

Thank goodness I'm Japanese, I agree with some of this. But we in Japan love Scarlett Jo as the Major! The characters in Ghost in the Shell are based on European people! The author and creator of Ghost in the Shell is Masamune Shirow! He approved and loved the casting :D! So please Americans stop being offended over nothing? As realistically most of the films where there is a Caucasian American person cast in an East Oriental role, the film is ...not good to begin with? So making the lead East Oriental would've only caused more hurt. Examples of this being: Dragon Ball Evolution, 21, King of Fighters, The Conqueror, The Last Airbender, Aloha, etc.

@jomanahhassan3854

5 жыл бұрын

thank you for this.

@berbnobirbyes.8583

5 жыл бұрын

Yes! Preach!

@gatorcroc7212

5 жыл бұрын

@KRYMauL Im aware, but im saying the film "The last Airbender" was a bad movie regardless of who would've been casted in the lead. Asian or Caucasian. Etc

@RagingPheonixHikaru

5 жыл бұрын

asian people living in asia have different experiences with race than asians living in western countries

@leaillex

5 жыл бұрын

The thing is, Asians have a considerable population in America. The kids will see television with all white characters, and real life, they go to school with white kids. It's good to represent them to make them feel they belong.