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  • @KyleHead
    @KyleHead Жыл бұрын

    Joey, this is some of the best MtG content on KZread. Your hard work is very appreciated.

  • @alexanderneimeth4538
    @alexanderneimeth4538 Жыл бұрын

    As someone who recently pulled the trigger on my Yarok deck, this will certainly be an interesting episode to watch

  • @DarthChocolate15

    @DarthChocolate15

    Жыл бұрын

    I've been slowly sleeving mine, but still need to pick up like half the cards.

  • @cameronhosmer2864
    @cameronhosmer2864 Жыл бұрын

    I’ve had a Yarok deck for a while now, and I can VOUCH for Kenrith’s Transformation. That card is fantastic on its own, and it’s like playing an Oko, without people being upset that you’re playing Oko. Plus, really fun to turn big baddies into elks lol

  • @alexanderneimeth4538
    @alexanderneimeth4538 Жыл бұрын

    Something I would like to point out, I think sicarian infiltrator is a must include in all lists. Squad triggers on ETB, so it’s not 5 mana draw 4, it’s 5 mana draw 6, 7 mana draw 10 (because you’ll make twice the tokens you normally would off of squad)

  • @tylermoore6774

    @tylermoore6774

    Жыл бұрын

    And that sweet sweet flash speed. 🔥

  • @davidchapman7350

    @davidchapman7350

    Жыл бұрын

    I was just about to say... Yeah, that's brilliant! That's gross, too.

  • @joedoe7572

    @joedoe7572

    Жыл бұрын

    ...Oh

  • @charliescheirmann2926

    @charliescheirmann2926

    Жыл бұрын

    I thought that too, but then gaslit myself into thinking he knew some more specific ruling that I wasn't aware of that made me wrong lol Really happy to be wrong cause that's a cool interaction

  • @eskimoprime09
    @eskimoprime09 Жыл бұрын

    Some of my personal favorite includes in my Yarok deck: - Mosswort Bridge. Yes, it enters tapped, but if Yarok is out, you get to hideaway two cards with it. And the real kicker, when you activate the ability to cast the card, you get to cast both! - Sakashima of a Thousand Faces and Spark Double, because why have two triggers when you can have three or four? - Mirror of Life Trapping and Portcullis. They're kind of weird and VERY chaotic, but you essentially re-ETB every creature that you play, while also screwing things up everywhere. - Woodland Bellower. Very versatile. Grab two creatures from your deck? My usual go-to is a Tireless Provisioner and Springbloom Druid. Nets you 8 treasures immediately.

  • @TheRMJQandA

    @TheRMJQandA

    Жыл бұрын

    Then all this with panharmonicon

  • @drsherifff
    @drsherifff Жыл бұрын

    YEEEEES! Lovely to see that more non-new set commanders are gonna be featured again.

  • @eagle_vision_13
    @eagle_vision_13 Жыл бұрын

    When you get tired of all the new commanders and have product fatigue then joeys here to save you. We love you joey.

  • @TranquilReindeer98
    @TranquilReindeer98 Жыл бұрын

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Sicarian infiltrator is even better than Joey made it out to be. Squad says "when this creature etbs create that many tokens..." If I'm not mistaken, if you pay the 2 mana, you'll get the token copy twice with Yarok out resulting in 3 creatures and therefore drawing 6 cards. Pay 4 additional mana and get 10 cards and so on

  • @joedoe7572

    @joedoe7572

    Жыл бұрын

    Yup. Insane

  • @jcalendar882
    @jcalendar882 Жыл бұрын

    I have a yarok deck. My build is cheap and good because of the initiative cards. You go through the deck very quickly by completing the dungeon over and over.

  • @1599tyler
    @1599tyler Жыл бұрын

    Ty, Joey!!! This program is exactly what i like!! Keep it up!!!!

  • @Slo-Mode
    @Slo-Mode Жыл бұрын

    Always love these. You budget decks never fail to impress and I love sharing them with friends who are learning

  • @JusticeJudge
    @JusticeJudge Жыл бұрын

    Primaris Eliminator - Mini board wipe or pop the biggest threat a versatile card. Ulvenwald Hydra - Tutor your Field of the Dead while providing a big body. Field of Ruin - Non-basic land destruction is underrated, landfall trigger, mana fixing and provides massive card advantage with Sire of Stagnation use this and Demolition Field. Glasspool Mimic - Clone effects are strong in Yarok to double up ETB triggers and it can be used as a land. Shared Summons - Grab the right creatures at the right time, Yarok decks are mostly creature focused. Skyclave Relic - Double the tokens it creates with Yarok on the field to have a big burst in mana advantage the next turn and to help pay for Yarok tax as it's a kill on site commander. Few other card ideas for people.

  • @akiraciciriello7479

    @akiraciciriello7479

    Жыл бұрын

    Primaris Eliminator is insane in this deck, I wonder why he's not on edhrec

  • @joedoe7572

    @joedoe7572

    Жыл бұрын

    @@akiraciciriello7479 probably too new. Skyclave Relic is really good! Wow!

  • @ContextG
    @ContextG Жыл бұрын

    YOoooo! I was just looking at this card as a muldrotha alternative just this monday! Great timing lmao

  • @DANGITKREEPA
    @DANGITKREEPA3 ай бұрын

    Thanks for this post. came across a budget version and was looking into different versions of it.

  • @radiac6818
    @radiac6818 Жыл бұрын

    I understand the budget restrictions that the OP was constraining himself to. If you're not worried about that, then I recommend playing Scapeshift, and either Splendid Reclamation or World Shaper, or both. I think this deck doesn't need Harrow, because you probably only want 2-3 of each basic land and like all of the dual and triple lands that are in our colors. I also really like Mirage Mirror and Oubliette. The mirror can hold off opponents by threatening to copy some big nasty creature when they swing at you, and then you can copy your own Avenger of Zendikar or Field of the Dead for even more counters or zombies. I also like Vesuva. In my deck, as a fun win combo, I play Simic Growth Chamber, Sakura-Tribe Scout, and Retreat to Coralhelm, which can give you unlimited landfall triggers. I also play Piranha Marsh and Cloudstone Curio. Also, budget or no, I think Ob Nixilis should always be in the 99

  • @DanielEdwards-wn2km
    @DanielEdwards-wn2km Жыл бұрын

    I recently built the Yarok Enters the dungeon decklist and I have had so much fun with it

  • @PSroka
    @PSroka Жыл бұрын

    Thank you thank you thank you! I've wanted this for my rotting boy since I've been working on him for 3 years! Anhelo next!

  • @Player_not_found
    @Player_not_found Жыл бұрын

    My favorite Yarok inclusion you didn't mention is Confounding Conundrum. All Yarok cares for is that the ETB effect comes from a permanent of yours, not that the permanent that entered is yours... Confounding Conundrum can easily slow down opponents far more than usual!

  • @joedoe7572

    @joedoe7572

    Жыл бұрын

    That's just mean

  • @schadenfreude4846
    @schadenfreude4846 Жыл бұрын

    You definitely put me onto stone seeder hierophant, I have like 3 landfall decks and somehow never heard of it before this series

  • @joedoe7572

    @joedoe7572

    Жыл бұрын

    Use a bounce-land for double the benefit! One landfall, make 4 mana with Yarok or Panharmonicon out!

  • @GeoffWell-gy9jz
    @GeoffWell-gy9jz Жыл бұрын

    Druid of purification, Sporocyst, shrieking drake;), malanthrope!

  • @joedoe7572

    @joedoe7572

    Жыл бұрын

    1000%. Sporocyst is absolutely insane doubled!

  • @markkarlo4869
    @markkarlo4869 Жыл бұрын

    I put at least one potentially game ending synnergy into every deck I have... just so that I can have a reliable out. For Yarok I have Undead Alchemist and Altar of the Brood. Both are equally annoying to opponents on their own, but having both with Yarok may be enough to mill out all of your opponents.

  • @jasonholmes5714
    @jasonholmes5714 Жыл бұрын

    I love this series so much I will watch a video on one of the commanders I hate the most, because Joey is amazing.

  • @starslayer18
    @starslayer18 Жыл бұрын

    I love these vids to see other ways to increase the potency of certain decks. I know he is not a popular commander, but I would love to see a video over Cromat. I’ve loved the mutate theme and the fact he is pretty much the defacto mutate commander makes me happy, but I would love to see anyway to increase its strength.

  • @chaseclosed3771
    @chaseclosed3771 Жыл бұрын

    Can confirm, stone seeder heirphant is ridiculously powerful

  • @joedoe7572

    @joedoe7572

    Жыл бұрын

    I've never seen that card before. Wow

  • @joedoe7572

    @joedoe7572

    Жыл бұрын

    Use a bounce-land for double the benefit! One landfall, make 4 mana with Yarok out!

  • @jonathancroxton6114
    @jonathancroxton6114 Жыл бұрын

    Last Voyage of the _____________ is a much much cheaper (in terms of $) necromancy that can also give +4/+0.

  • @joedoe7572

    @joedoe7572

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah. Stupid stickers though

  • @rhysticbuddy61
    @rhysticbuddy61 Жыл бұрын

    I have a Yarok deck myself, some good stuff in there and I am glad to see a lot of your suggested cards are things I already have in the deck, but I will definitely think more about the shriekmaw, muldrotha and arcane signet cuts though...

  • @daneburke6592
    @daneburke6592 Жыл бұрын

    Joey, I played against you at command fest Bellevue a few months back with my Yarok deck! I used necromancy to reanimate your terrastadon from your graveyard and blow up a bunch of your lands 😂

  • @jasonholmes5714
    @jasonholmes5714 Жыл бұрын

    That shirt is SO BLUE

  • @jovismarshall
    @jovismarshall Жыл бұрын

    isnt squad an etb trigger too? so Sicarian Infiltrator kicked once is 2 tokens and 6 cards and twice 4 tokens and 10 cards

  • @joedoe7572

    @joedoe7572

    Жыл бұрын

    Yup. Insane

  • @mmik9683
    @mmik9683 Жыл бұрын

    Sepulchral Primordial is my favorite card that I can't pronounce in yarok.

  • @joedoe7572

    @joedoe7572

    Жыл бұрын

    Suh-PUL-kruhl Prai-MOR-dee-uhl. Awesome card

  • @bobrashley5936
    @bobrashley5936 Жыл бұрын

    A commander which hasn't just been printed. Hallelujah!

  • @okgut2033
    @okgut2033 Жыл бұрын

    The budget version shows again: goodstuff is not needed :)

  • @joedoe7572
    @joedoe7572 Жыл бұрын

    Does Aboleth Spawn trigger off the ETB of an opponent's creature and then check if it triggered an ETB ability, or does it only trigger when that creature's ETB ability triggers? Because I'm pretty sure it's the second, in which case Yarok won't double the trigger. Can anybody confirm one way or the other?

  • @thescreenukulele6173

    @thescreenukulele6173

    Жыл бұрын

    In case this hasn’t been answered, it triggers on opponents creature entering, but yarok still doubles it because the aboleth spawn is a permanent you control triggering when ANY permanent enters

  • @Zunip182
    @Zunip1822 ай бұрын

    Really surprised you didnt mention kodama or coralheim for infinite Landfall combos

  • @jetfire7680
    @jetfire7680 Жыл бұрын

    Can we get a Yidris, Maelstrom Wielder Upping the Average?

  • @zilkay6558
    @zilkay6558 Жыл бұрын

    I'd like to see a Daretti, Scrap Savant deck next. He is a commander I really want to build on but I'm unsure of how to do it. Plus the brother's war brings a lot of good artifacts with it

  • @dartholiver
    @dartholiver Жыл бұрын

    I like Josu Vess Kicker ability, with Yarok out, as Alternative win con. 16 2/2 Zombie knights with menace have won me games already.

  • @Gameflyer001
    @Gameflyer00110 ай бұрын

    My Yarok deck has a number of Copy creatures (including Sakashima) to increase the number of ETBs.

  • @ingolf82
    @ingolf82 Жыл бұрын

    1:40 this is why you don't just take an average deck list and upgrade it. here is what you do: Pick a commander, pick a theme, then you grab the average deck. if you just pick a commander, the deck might go several different directions, pick the theme first, then pull the average list, that is what I do. I pick the theme, then pull the average list then make the changes I want to make to the average deck list that fits my budget and then I go.

  • @TheViridianDusk
    @TheViridianDusk Жыл бұрын

    I'm not entirely convinced that Abeloth Spawn is an ETB trigger. It reads like it's triggering off of the other creatures triggered ability and not off of the creature entering the battlefield. Is that enough of a difference for Yarok to not recognise it?

  • @Blacklodge_Willy

    @Blacklodge_Willy

    Жыл бұрын

    It definitely works:) Yarok causing the ability of Abalorh to trigger twice is mainly due to Yarok not caring who controlled the "entering" creature, rather "a triggered ability of a permanent you control to trigger": in this case Abaloth.

  • @TheViridianDusk

    @TheViridianDusk

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Blacklodge_Willy My issue isn't with the text on Yarok but the text on the Abeloth Spawn. I'm not sure the Abeloth Spawn is actually triggering on a creature entering the battlefield.

  • @TheViridianDusk

    @TheViridianDusk

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Blacklodge_Willy I've done a bit of digging but it seems I am correct. Aboleth Spawn's ability is not triggering off of a creature entering the battlefield. It is triggering off of that creatures ability. That extra layer means that Yarok does not interact with it.

  • @joedoe7572

    @joedoe7572

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheViridianDusk I've been wondering about this since that card was spoiled. Did you get a confirmation that it only triggers off the trigger?

  • @TheViridianDusk

    @TheViridianDusk

    Жыл бұрын

    @@joedoe7572 several "ask a judge" pages have this question and the vast majority of responses from judges seem to agree with what I said.

  • @bobvance-
    @bobvance- Жыл бұрын

    The problem with Faerie Artisans is that you would never be able to keep the tokens if Yarok was out because having two tokens enter would have them both be exiled under the cards rules.

  • @bobvance-

    @bobvance-

    Жыл бұрын

    Which would be fine if you just wanted ETB triggers, but this is only useful if the opponent you are playing against has a lot of non-token creatures with ETB effects. I don't think this would be very good at all to include in a Yarok deck.

  • @aaronisbell377

    @aaronisbell377

    8 ай бұрын

    I’m not sure this is correct….? I could be wrong but Artisans says “then exile all OTHER tokens”. So, why would we have to exile the tokens we just created?

  • @bobvance-

    @bobvance-

    7 ай бұрын

    I hear you, it's just if the trigger is doubled that means you would have to exile both because the two triggers are independent of each other. So that means you would have to resolve each one separately, thus exiling both tokens.@@aaronisbell377

  • @nabro1750
    @nabro1750 Жыл бұрын

    I hope we get more cards with the explore mechanic and explore payoffs when we go back to Ixalan. I want to build a Yarok explore deck.

  • @khathecleric
    @khathecleric Жыл бұрын

    its funny because I went so veeeery heavy on the landfall theme and elementals subtheme I ran out of space for other ETB cards! ANd here's your take just a week after I did that, and its still a different deck.

  • @mattgerrey1929
    @mattgerrey1929 Жыл бұрын

    I don't know how you pick which Commander to focus on each time, but Ayara, First of the Lochtwain would be great! Videos are always so informative and thoughtful, love watching them and literally wait fir each one.

  • @drewturney3949
    @drewturney3949 Жыл бұрын

    I really enjoyed my Yarok Mill deck

  • @juliand.1147
    @juliand.1147 Жыл бұрын

    The best card in my yarok deck is probably dance of many. Triggers twice with yarok, producing a total of two clones for 2 mana. That ends up being 4 etb triggers for 2 mana. Also, you can copy your opponent's stuff if you want to.

  • @joedoe7572

    @joedoe7572

    Жыл бұрын

    Huh. Nice

  • @lorcanawithluke
    @lorcanawithluke Жыл бұрын

    Does the Squad ETB also get doubled? So you pay 5 mana and the squad etb gets doubled so you actually make 2 tokens of them plus the OG, each will trigger their ETBs again twice and draw 6 cards? I think you may have missed some value there?

  • @joedoe7572

    @joedoe7572

    Жыл бұрын

    Yup. Insane

  • @randyrombaut2222
    @randyrombaut2222 Жыл бұрын

    I think faerie artisans is a really cool card, but the effect doesnt work so well with yarok. It will make a token, then it will make a second one of yarok is on the field but the first one will go away. Its only useful when the token copy is of a creature with etb

  • @bobvance-

    @bobvance-

    Жыл бұрын

    Wouldn't the both go away because it's stated that "the all OTHER tokens created"?

  • @markpro012
    @markpro012 Жыл бұрын

    Love these vids man! Can you do a Yisan video? Super fun commander lol.

  • @Sp0rkXNinja
    @Sp0rkXNinja Жыл бұрын

    I have a Yarok but never build him. I just threw Yarok in the 99. While I toyed at building yarok landfall, I feel it would play too similar to my Riku of two Reflections.

  • @aeseiri1618
    @aeseiri1618 Жыл бұрын

    @EDHRECast, great series. Especially for someone just getting back into Magic after 10 years. Any way to get a Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger vid at some point? Keep up the good work.

  • @ANitschkeProduction
    @ANitschkeProduction Жыл бұрын

    Doesn't the Infiltrator Squad ETB trigger twice with Yarok out and make that many copies again? Or is the Squad effect only conected to the cast?

  • @joedoe7572

    @joedoe7572

    Жыл бұрын

    It does. Squad is also an ETB effect, so you will make double the copies and get more card draw

  • @shikabaneconga
    @shikabaneconga Жыл бұрын

    Quick note, Fblthp doesnt like to be targetted, he cannot flicker

  • @brentonferguson5372
    @brentonferguson5372 Жыл бұрын

    I personally like Confounding Conundrum in my deck

  • @joedoe7572

    @joedoe7572

    Жыл бұрын

    That's just mean at that point

  • @miguell1999
    @miguell1999 Жыл бұрын

    New here I would love to see a episode on mimeoplasm

  • @zEr-ne5ri
    @zEr-ne5ri Жыл бұрын

    You should do some videos on the commanders average deck that you would not change. Please

  • @daneburke6592
    @daneburke6592 Жыл бұрын

    Definitely not budget friendly but gilded Drake is so good in yarok. You don’t get to steal two creatures but you can give one opponents commander to another opponent which can be a major blow out. I did this once and they both scooped and found a different pod to play with lol. I took it out after that because people think it’s too mean

  • @stickoIogy
    @stickoIogy Жыл бұрын

    Any hope of yall doing a Jon Irenicus, Shattered One UTA? It's my favorite commander rn

  • @gwampa7066
    @gwampa7066 Жыл бұрын

    In total shock there has been no mention of Woodland Bellower in the vid or comments. It is hands down an S+ piece in any list. As a base combo (with yarok in play) you use it to find springbloom + tireless provisioner/cobra to create 8 mana and 8 landfall triggers, then you are set to pop off with the rest of your hand. You can also opt to search for a glasspool mimic to net you +1 bellower trigger. Otherwise, bellower is super versatile and can find you just about anything you need for the game state, and the trickling of effects while yarok is in play often wins on the spot regardless of deck strategy. A personal favorite, though awkward to cast is Bolas' Citadel. Using it with an "additional land per turn" effect in play really churns out tons of value and i find my personal list to already be low to the ground on curve and easily changes the top of the deck with so much land searching.

  • @akiraciciriello7479

    @akiraciciriello7479

    Жыл бұрын

    If you get tireless provisioner and spingbloom you spent 6 mana to get 8 mana in treasures and 1 great value creature for the next turn. Not bad

  • @ANitschkeProduction
    @ANitschkeProduction Жыл бұрын

    Shouldn't Necromancy only be attached to the last creature? I'm saything this because of Bruna, Light Alabaster when she attacks/blocks you may attach any auras to her. It doesn't say move them to her, but that's what happens and those auras aren't still attached to the original creature. (My take) Necromancy should lose trach of the first creature but will only make you sac the second if it would leave play.

  • @radiac6818

    @radiac6818

    Жыл бұрын

    Without Yarok, if you move Necromancy to a different creature in play, like with Crown of the Ages, the original necroed creature still remains in play and will still need to be sacrificed when the Necromancy leaves play. The fact that it's no longer enchanting the creature it had originally resurrected doesn't change that. If you have Yarok, the ability triggers twice , resurrects two creatures, one at a time, and will end up attached to the second one. But the first trigger that rezzed the first creature is still in effect and will still cause you to sac that creature when Necromancy leaves the battlefield. So when the Necro gets disenchanted, you have to sac both creatures. I think.

  • @ANitschkeProduction

    @ANitschkeProduction

    Жыл бұрын

    @@radiac6818 i see my problem. I looked at Last Voyage of the __. From Unfinity. Has a similar ETB. But a speret line when Voyage leaves play, sac the enchanted creature. So in that case it wouldn't care about the 1st creature. Where Necromancy the return and sac effect are together. So in that case Necromancy would still force you to sac the 1st creature if it leaves.

  • @shaderik4033
    @shaderik4033 Жыл бұрын

    Please 🙏🙏🙏Upping the Average with "Alandra Sky Dreamer" 🙏🙏🙏

  • @kud5659
    @kud5659 Жыл бұрын

    Would Yarok make Jin Gitaxias Progress Tyrant trigger twice despite Jin's card saying it only happens once per turn? Sorry, new to this and I'm not sure on the rules if 2 cards contradict.

  • @thescreenukulele6173

    @thescreenukulele6173

    Жыл бұрын

    In case you haven’t gotten this answered, Jin-gitaxias’ ability triggers when the spell is cast, not on ETB, so the two do not interact directly

  • @liamfinnm5347
    @liamfinnm5347 Жыл бұрын

    Do Mishra eminent one

  • @jw5087
    @jw5087 Жыл бұрын

    Waaay too few lands in the first decklist... I have a similar list without fetches and 40 lands +3 mdfcs feels low sometimes. Neither Exploration nor villainous wealth make sense with such a low count. Even the risen reef combo might fizzle easily like that...

  • @joedoe7572

    @joedoe7572

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm pretty sure it's because not everyone plays the same lands, and since it's an _average_ decklist, the individual lands get outplayed by other cards. If A plays one extra Forest, B plays a swamp, C plays an Island, and D plays a utility land, that land slot may not show up, because it's only in 25% of the decks as that land. Add in various forms of ramp, and that percentage gets much lower. Computers are fast, not smart

  • @jw5087

    @jw5087

    Жыл бұрын

    @@joedoe7572 Interesting theory. If that is the case it would be a huge mistake! I tried finding some info on how EDHREC accumulates its data but couldn't find much beyond the data sources. However, I doubt EDHREC counts lands this way. If it did, land numbers would be higher on average in mono-coloured decks because people play more basics and there's more overlap of non-basics (just fewer good ones available). And the reverse would be true for five colour decks. It's not a statistical analysis, merely anecdotal evidence, but I just checked most of the one/five colour decks in the top 200 and can't see a pattern like that emerging. Also, speaking of data sources, EDHREC pulls from several deckbuilding websites - all of these track the total number of lands in decks. I'd assume that it would be much easier to compile the averages from that data than to count lands in a different manner. Would be interesting though to get a glimpse behind the curtain how the data aggregation actually works.

  • @julienleynaud6898
    @julienleynaud6898 Жыл бұрын

    Muldrotha is amazing with Yarok , it adds so much value.

  • @akiraciciriello7479

    @akiraciciriello7479

    Жыл бұрын

    muldrotha is good in any sultai deck

  • @guilhermesilva-ud4vd
    @guilhermesilva-ud4vd Жыл бұрын

    Does Sire of Stagnation trigger twice when Yarok is on the Battlefield?

  • @TheViridianDusk

    @TheViridianDusk

    Жыл бұрын

    Yup. Yarok doesn't care who controls the thing that enters. Only that you control the thing that is triggered.

  • @turtletoast3087
    @turtletoast3087 Жыл бұрын

    How did you not talk about oubliette???

  • @abdalafadhil9762
    @abdalafadhil9762 Жыл бұрын

    But what about Roon?!?!

  • @juts89
    @juts89 Жыл бұрын

    Was torn on making this one. Seems a little OP at a casual table.

  • @crawdaddy2004
    @crawdaddy200420 күн бұрын

    Shriekmaw is an Elemental…

  • @secretlairgaming
    @secretlairgaming Жыл бұрын

    Sup

  • @TheFallenA
    @TheFallenA Жыл бұрын

    Animate dead do the same has necromancy.