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Joey, this is some of the best MtG content on KZread. Your hard work is very appreciated.
As someone who recently pulled the trigger on my Yarok deck, this will certainly be an interesting episode to watch
@DarthChocolate15
Жыл бұрын
I've been slowly sleeving mine, but still need to pick up like half the cards.
I’ve had a Yarok deck for a while now, and I can VOUCH for Kenrith’s Transformation. That card is fantastic on its own, and it’s like playing an Oko, without people being upset that you’re playing Oko. Plus, really fun to turn big baddies into elks lol
Something I would like to point out, I think sicarian infiltrator is a must include in all lists. Squad triggers on ETB, so it’s not 5 mana draw 4, it’s 5 mana draw 6, 7 mana draw 10 (because you’ll make twice the tokens you normally would off of squad)
@tylermoore6774
Жыл бұрын
And that sweet sweet flash speed. 🔥
@davidchapman7350
Жыл бұрын
I was just about to say... Yeah, that's brilliant! That's gross, too.
@joedoe7572
Жыл бұрын
...Oh
@charliescheirmann2926
Жыл бұрын
I thought that too, but then gaslit myself into thinking he knew some more specific ruling that I wasn't aware of that made me wrong lol Really happy to be wrong cause that's a cool interaction
Some of my personal favorite includes in my Yarok deck: - Mosswort Bridge. Yes, it enters tapped, but if Yarok is out, you get to hideaway two cards with it. And the real kicker, when you activate the ability to cast the card, you get to cast both! - Sakashima of a Thousand Faces and Spark Double, because why have two triggers when you can have three or four? - Mirror of Life Trapping and Portcullis. They're kind of weird and VERY chaotic, but you essentially re-ETB every creature that you play, while also screwing things up everywhere. - Woodland Bellower. Very versatile. Grab two creatures from your deck? My usual go-to is a Tireless Provisioner and Springbloom Druid. Nets you 8 treasures immediately.
@TheRMJQandA
Жыл бұрын
Then all this with panharmonicon
YEEEEES! Lovely to see that more non-new set commanders are gonna be featured again.
When you get tired of all the new commanders and have product fatigue then joeys here to save you. We love you joey.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Sicarian infiltrator is even better than Joey made it out to be. Squad says "when this creature etbs create that many tokens..." If I'm not mistaken, if you pay the 2 mana, you'll get the token copy twice with Yarok out resulting in 3 creatures and therefore drawing 6 cards. Pay 4 additional mana and get 10 cards and so on
@joedoe7572
Жыл бұрын
Yup. Insane
I have a yarok deck. My build is cheap and good because of the initiative cards. You go through the deck very quickly by completing the dungeon over and over.
Ty, Joey!!! This program is exactly what i like!! Keep it up!!!!
Always love these. You budget decks never fail to impress and I love sharing them with friends who are learning
Primaris Eliminator - Mini board wipe or pop the biggest threat a versatile card. Ulvenwald Hydra - Tutor your Field of the Dead while providing a big body. Field of Ruin - Non-basic land destruction is underrated, landfall trigger, mana fixing and provides massive card advantage with Sire of Stagnation use this and Demolition Field. Glasspool Mimic - Clone effects are strong in Yarok to double up ETB triggers and it can be used as a land. Shared Summons - Grab the right creatures at the right time, Yarok decks are mostly creature focused. Skyclave Relic - Double the tokens it creates with Yarok on the field to have a big burst in mana advantage the next turn and to help pay for Yarok tax as it's a kill on site commander. Few other card ideas for people.
@akiraciciriello7479
Жыл бұрын
Primaris Eliminator is insane in this deck, I wonder why he's not on edhrec
@joedoe7572
Жыл бұрын
@@akiraciciriello7479 probably too new. Skyclave Relic is really good! Wow!
YOoooo! I was just looking at this card as a muldrotha alternative just this monday! Great timing lmao
Thanks for this post. came across a budget version and was looking into different versions of it.
I understand the budget restrictions that the OP was constraining himself to. If you're not worried about that, then I recommend playing Scapeshift, and either Splendid Reclamation or World Shaper, or both. I think this deck doesn't need Harrow, because you probably only want 2-3 of each basic land and like all of the dual and triple lands that are in our colors. I also really like Mirage Mirror and Oubliette. The mirror can hold off opponents by threatening to copy some big nasty creature when they swing at you, and then you can copy your own Avenger of Zendikar or Field of the Dead for even more counters or zombies. I also like Vesuva. In my deck, as a fun win combo, I play Simic Growth Chamber, Sakura-Tribe Scout, and Retreat to Coralhelm, which can give you unlimited landfall triggers. I also play Piranha Marsh and Cloudstone Curio. Also, budget or no, I think Ob Nixilis should always be in the 99
I recently built the Yarok Enters the dungeon decklist and I have had so much fun with it
Thank you thank you thank you! I've wanted this for my rotting boy since I've been working on him for 3 years! Anhelo next!
My favorite Yarok inclusion you didn't mention is Confounding Conundrum. All Yarok cares for is that the ETB effect comes from a permanent of yours, not that the permanent that entered is yours... Confounding Conundrum can easily slow down opponents far more than usual!
@joedoe7572
Жыл бұрын
That's just mean
You definitely put me onto stone seeder hierophant, I have like 3 landfall decks and somehow never heard of it before this series
@joedoe7572
Жыл бұрын
Use a bounce-land for double the benefit! One landfall, make 4 mana with Yarok or Panharmonicon out!
Druid of purification, Sporocyst, shrieking drake;), malanthrope!
@joedoe7572
Жыл бұрын
1000%. Sporocyst is absolutely insane doubled!
I put at least one potentially game ending synnergy into every deck I have... just so that I can have a reliable out. For Yarok I have Undead Alchemist and Altar of the Brood. Both are equally annoying to opponents on their own, but having both with Yarok may be enough to mill out all of your opponents.
I love this series so much I will watch a video on one of the commanders I hate the most, because Joey is amazing.
I love these vids to see other ways to increase the potency of certain decks. I know he is not a popular commander, but I would love to see a video over Cromat. I’ve loved the mutate theme and the fact he is pretty much the defacto mutate commander makes me happy, but I would love to see anyway to increase its strength.
Can confirm, stone seeder heirphant is ridiculously powerful
@joedoe7572
Жыл бұрын
I've never seen that card before. Wow
@joedoe7572
Жыл бұрын
Use a bounce-land for double the benefit! One landfall, make 4 mana with Yarok out!
Last Voyage of the _____________ is a much much cheaper (in terms of $) necromancy that can also give +4/+0.
@joedoe7572
Жыл бұрын
Yeah. Stupid stickers though
I have a Yarok deck myself, some good stuff in there and I am glad to see a lot of your suggested cards are things I already have in the deck, but I will definitely think more about the shriekmaw, muldrotha and arcane signet cuts though...
Joey, I played against you at command fest Bellevue a few months back with my Yarok deck! I used necromancy to reanimate your terrastadon from your graveyard and blow up a bunch of your lands 😂
That shirt is SO BLUE
isnt squad an etb trigger too? so Sicarian Infiltrator kicked once is 2 tokens and 6 cards and twice 4 tokens and 10 cards
@joedoe7572
Жыл бұрын
Yup. Insane
Sepulchral Primordial is my favorite card that I can't pronounce in yarok.
@joedoe7572
Жыл бұрын
Suh-PUL-kruhl Prai-MOR-dee-uhl. Awesome card
A commander which hasn't just been printed. Hallelujah!
The budget version shows again: goodstuff is not needed :)
Does Aboleth Spawn trigger off the ETB of an opponent's creature and then check if it triggered an ETB ability, or does it only trigger when that creature's ETB ability triggers? Because I'm pretty sure it's the second, in which case Yarok won't double the trigger. Can anybody confirm one way or the other?
@thescreenukulele6173
Жыл бұрын
In case this hasn’t been answered, it triggers on opponents creature entering, but yarok still doubles it because the aboleth spawn is a permanent you control triggering when ANY permanent enters
Really surprised you didnt mention kodama or coralheim for infinite Landfall combos
Can we get a Yidris, Maelstrom Wielder Upping the Average?
I'd like to see a Daretti, Scrap Savant deck next. He is a commander I really want to build on but I'm unsure of how to do it. Plus the brother's war brings a lot of good artifacts with it
I like Josu Vess Kicker ability, with Yarok out, as Alternative win con. 16 2/2 Zombie knights with menace have won me games already.
My Yarok deck has a number of Copy creatures (including Sakashima) to increase the number of ETBs.
1:40 this is why you don't just take an average deck list and upgrade it. here is what you do: Pick a commander, pick a theme, then you grab the average deck. if you just pick a commander, the deck might go several different directions, pick the theme first, then pull the average list, that is what I do. I pick the theme, then pull the average list then make the changes I want to make to the average deck list that fits my budget and then I go.
I'm not entirely convinced that Abeloth Spawn is an ETB trigger. It reads like it's triggering off of the other creatures triggered ability and not off of the creature entering the battlefield. Is that enough of a difference for Yarok to not recognise it?
@Blacklodge_Willy
Жыл бұрын
It definitely works:) Yarok causing the ability of Abalorh to trigger twice is mainly due to Yarok not caring who controlled the "entering" creature, rather "a triggered ability of a permanent you control to trigger": in this case Abaloth.
@TheViridianDusk
Жыл бұрын
@@Blacklodge_Willy My issue isn't with the text on Yarok but the text on the Abeloth Spawn. I'm not sure the Abeloth Spawn is actually triggering on a creature entering the battlefield.
@TheViridianDusk
Жыл бұрын
@@Blacklodge_Willy I've done a bit of digging but it seems I am correct. Aboleth Spawn's ability is not triggering off of a creature entering the battlefield. It is triggering off of that creatures ability. That extra layer means that Yarok does not interact with it.
@joedoe7572
Жыл бұрын
@@TheViridianDusk I've been wondering about this since that card was spoiled. Did you get a confirmation that it only triggers off the trigger?
@TheViridianDusk
Жыл бұрын
@@joedoe7572 several "ask a judge" pages have this question and the vast majority of responses from judges seem to agree with what I said.
The problem with Faerie Artisans is that you would never be able to keep the tokens if Yarok was out because having two tokens enter would have them both be exiled under the cards rules.
@bobvance-
Жыл бұрын
Which would be fine if you just wanted ETB triggers, but this is only useful if the opponent you are playing against has a lot of non-token creatures with ETB effects. I don't think this would be very good at all to include in a Yarok deck.
@aaronisbell377
8 ай бұрын
I’m not sure this is correct….? I could be wrong but Artisans says “then exile all OTHER tokens”. So, why would we have to exile the tokens we just created?
@bobvance-
7 ай бұрын
I hear you, it's just if the trigger is doubled that means you would have to exile both because the two triggers are independent of each other. So that means you would have to resolve each one separately, thus exiling both tokens.@@aaronisbell377
I hope we get more cards with the explore mechanic and explore payoffs when we go back to Ixalan. I want to build a Yarok explore deck.
its funny because I went so veeeery heavy on the landfall theme and elementals subtheme I ran out of space for other ETB cards! ANd here's your take just a week after I did that, and its still a different deck.
I don't know how you pick which Commander to focus on each time, but Ayara, First of the Lochtwain would be great! Videos are always so informative and thoughtful, love watching them and literally wait fir each one.
I really enjoyed my Yarok Mill deck
The best card in my yarok deck is probably dance of many. Triggers twice with yarok, producing a total of two clones for 2 mana. That ends up being 4 etb triggers for 2 mana. Also, you can copy your opponent's stuff if you want to.
@joedoe7572
Жыл бұрын
Huh. Nice
Does the Squad ETB also get doubled? So you pay 5 mana and the squad etb gets doubled so you actually make 2 tokens of them plus the OG, each will trigger their ETBs again twice and draw 6 cards? I think you may have missed some value there?
@joedoe7572
Жыл бұрын
Yup. Insane
I think faerie artisans is a really cool card, but the effect doesnt work so well with yarok. It will make a token, then it will make a second one of yarok is on the field but the first one will go away. Its only useful when the token copy is of a creature with etb
@bobvance-
Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't the both go away because it's stated that "the all OTHER tokens created"?
Love these vids man! Can you do a Yisan video? Super fun commander lol.
I have a Yarok but never build him. I just threw Yarok in the 99. While I toyed at building yarok landfall, I feel it would play too similar to my Riku of two Reflections.
@EDHRECast, great series. Especially for someone just getting back into Magic after 10 years. Any way to get a Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger vid at some point? Keep up the good work.
Doesn't the Infiltrator Squad ETB trigger twice with Yarok out and make that many copies again? Or is the Squad effect only conected to the cast?
@joedoe7572
Жыл бұрын
It does. Squad is also an ETB effect, so you will make double the copies and get more card draw
Quick note, Fblthp doesnt like to be targetted, he cannot flicker
I personally like Confounding Conundrum in my deck
@joedoe7572
Жыл бұрын
That's just mean at that point
New here I would love to see a episode on mimeoplasm
You should do some videos on the commanders average deck that you would not change. Please
Definitely not budget friendly but gilded Drake is so good in yarok. You don’t get to steal two creatures but you can give one opponents commander to another opponent which can be a major blow out. I did this once and they both scooped and found a different pod to play with lol. I took it out after that because people think it’s too mean
Any hope of yall doing a Jon Irenicus, Shattered One UTA? It's my favorite commander rn
In total shock there has been no mention of Woodland Bellower in the vid or comments. It is hands down an S+ piece in any list. As a base combo (with yarok in play) you use it to find springbloom + tireless provisioner/cobra to create 8 mana and 8 landfall triggers, then you are set to pop off with the rest of your hand. You can also opt to search for a glasspool mimic to net you +1 bellower trigger. Otherwise, bellower is super versatile and can find you just about anything you need for the game state, and the trickling of effects while yarok is in play often wins on the spot regardless of deck strategy. A personal favorite, though awkward to cast is Bolas' Citadel. Using it with an "additional land per turn" effect in play really churns out tons of value and i find my personal list to already be low to the ground on curve and easily changes the top of the deck with so much land searching.
@akiraciciriello7479
Жыл бұрын
If you get tireless provisioner and spingbloom you spent 6 mana to get 8 mana in treasures and 1 great value creature for the next turn. Not bad
Shouldn't Necromancy only be attached to the last creature? I'm saything this because of Bruna, Light Alabaster when she attacks/blocks you may attach any auras to her. It doesn't say move them to her, but that's what happens and those auras aren't still attached to the original creature. (My take) Necromancy should lose trach of the first creature but will only make you sac the second if it would leave play.
@radiac6818
Жыл бұрын
Without Yarok, if you move Necromancy to a different creature in play, like with Crown of the Ages, the original necroed creature still remains in play and will still need to be sacrificed when the Necromancy leaves play. The fact that it's no longer enchanting the creature it had originally resurrected doesn't change that. If you have Yarok, the ability triggers twice , resurrects two creatures, one at a time, and will end up attached to the second one. But the first trigger that rezzed the first creature is still in effect and will still cause you to sac that creature when Necromancy leaves the battlefield. So when the Necro gets disenchanted, you have to sac both creatures. I think.
@ANitschkeProduction
Жыл бұрын
@@radiac6818 i see my problem. I looked at Last Voyage of the __. From Unfinity. Has a similar ETB. But a speret line when Voyage leaves play, sac the enchanted creature. So in that case it wouldn't care about the 1st creature. Where Necromancy the return and sac effect are together. So in that case Necromancy would still force you to sac the 1st creature if it leaves.
Please 🙏🙏🙏Upping the Average with "Alandra Sky Dreamer" 🙏🙏🙏
Would Yarok make Jin Gitaxias Progress Tyrant trigger twice despite Jin's card saying it only happens once per turn? Sorry, new to this and I'm not sure on the rules if 2 cards contradict.
@thescreenukulele6173
Жыл бұрын
In case you haven’t gotten this answered, Jin-gitaxias’ ability triggers when the spell is cast, not on ETB, so the two do not interact directly
Do Mishra eminent one
Waaay too few lands in the first decklist... I have a similar list without fetches and 40 lands +3 mdfcs feels low sometimes. Neither Exploration nor villainous wealth make sense with such a low count. Even the risen reef combo might fizzle easily like that...
@joedoe7572
Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure it's because not everyone plays the same lands, and since it's an _average_ decklist, the individual lands get outplayed by other cards. If A plays one extra Forest, B plays a swamp, C plays an Island, and D plays a utility land, that land slot may not show up, because it's only in 25% of the decks as that land. Add in various forms of ramp, and that percentage gets much lower. Computers are fast, not smart
@jw5087
Жыл бұрын
@@joedoe7572 Interesting theory. If that is the case it would be a huge mistake! I tried finding some info on how EDHREC accumulates its data but couldn't find much beyond the data sources. However, I doubt EDHREC counts lands this way. If it did, land numbers would be higher on average in mono-coloured decks because people play more basics and there's more overlap of non-basics (just fewer good ones available). And the reverse would be true for five colour decks. It's not a statistical analysis, merely anecdotal evidence, but I just checked most of the one/five colour decks in the top 200 and can't see a pattern like that emerging. Also, speaking of data sources, EDHREC pulls from several deckbuilding websites - all of these track the total number of lands in decks. I'd assume that it would be much easier to compile the averages from that data than to count lands in a different manner. Would be interesting though to get a glimpse behind the curtain how the data aggregation actually works.
Muldrotha is amazing with Yarok , it adds so much value.
@akiraciciriello7479
Жыл бұрын
muldrotha is good in any sultai deck
Does Sire of Stagnation trigger twice when Yarok is on the Battlefield?
@TheViridianDusk
Жыл бұрын
Yup. Yarok doesn't care who controls the thing that enters. Only that you control the thing that is triggered.
How did you not talk about oubliette???
But what about Roon?!?!
Was torn on making this one. Seems a little OP at a casual table.
Shriekmaw is an Elemental…
Sup
Animate dead do the same has necromancy.