This is exactly the kind of discussion we need to be having. Bravo

@TheGfdsahjk

2 жыл бұрын

please. what do you expect from a professor??. varoufakis was a professor in his twenties in england australia, greece, then in usa. he is one of the smartest humans in the world, and i study him cause greece is my enemy and i know my enemies better than they know themselves. and the thing is that i will not let him execute his plans about europe and greece, he will find my empire against him and offcourse germany and Turkia will not let him do nothing.. you think one person can mess with two big countries like germany my biggest allie and my Turkish empire? hahahaha thats a joke.. wait and u will see we will stop greece with the help of germany like we did a couple of years ago with economic crisis and my dear and always faithfull to my empire my dear angela merkel and the german people.. goodnight and enjoy what happens

Russell stops talking and lets Yanis speak at 2:05

“I would like a world in which there are restrictions in capital movements and no restrictions in human beings from moving around”. Yes!

@CallousCarter

3 жыл бұрын

Ye it's a good slogan but how are people going to move without capital? If it didn't cost money, I'd of moved a long time ago.

@heathcliffearnshaw1403

3 жыл бұрын

@@CallousCarter Capital is very large sums of money put into firms or set up as firms in the given country. It isn’t the same thing as the money in our pockets or current accounts.

@heathcliffearnshaw1403

3 жыл бұрын

The Evil Cycle : -> $$$$ ->TRANS -NATIONAL CORPORATIONS / BIG FINANCE -->$$$ [note: less $$$ than coming in (earlier)-> THINKTANKS --> MEDIA ->THE “WASHINGTON CONSENSUS” -->US GOVMT POLICY -->TRANS NATIONAL CORPOARATIONS/ BIG FINANCE

@frederikhyrup2871

3 жыл бұрын

@@CallousCarter I would live in sub saharan africa if I got money. Still he makes sense. People over money. I can only live under 1 roof. Eat 2 meals a day. Basically I could do with much less. So could you.

@frederikhyrup2871

3 жыл бұрын

@Wanker Wanker Its abit more complex. But meh. Ill agree.

Solidarity takes true righteous indignation rather than self righteous indignation!

@kuwapa

3 жыл бұрын

I was trying point out how anger and indignation can be channeled differently with drastically different outcomes - from pathologies of despair on one end of the spectrum to passionate warriors for truth and justice, people like Hedges, West, Ratner, Giroux, Chomsky, Varoufakis etc

I think russel and yanis are two of the most intelligent and compassionate and important voices we need if we are to create a an international democracy

@KingMinosxxvi

3 жыл бұрын

menh.......Yanis sure

@fuckfannyfiddlefart

3 жыл бұрын

And yet this is the WORST video I've seen! Absolutely terrible attack on socially progressive politics while stereotyping working people as reactionary conservatives!

@AbeldeBetancourt

3 жыл бұрын

You need to think harder

@zantecarroll4448

3 жыл бұрын

fuckfannyfiddlefart what is your analysis?

@fuckfannyfiddlefart

3 жыл бұрын

@@zantecarroll4448 They are blaming MINORITY identity politics but it is EASY to prove that this was WHITE IDENTITY politics. Look at any video about Brexshit by Mark Blithe who breaks when the electorate demographics. The last election was the clearest in half a century where we had a SOCIALIST vs a REACTIONARY ULTRANATIONALIST and the electorate chose the latter (or wasted their vote in liberals/green which is functionally the same as giving TORIES the seats) so they WANT TO BLAME progressives but it OBJECTIVELY wasn't progressives who gave us Brexshit Boris!

Wow I did not think Russel Brand would be this informed regarding economics and larger politics

"We need internationalism to kill off globalisation." Here, here.

@louiseparker1915

3 жыл бұрын

Hear hear!

@nescius2

3 жыл бұрын

@MaxSt Arlyn Borders are natural... where? do you know where i can find a natural borderpass? lol

@nescius2

3 жыл бұрын

@MaxSt Arlyn i wouldn't use term borders as a synonym for a fence.. I think you are trying to fight against effects of technical progress - the globalization resulting in advances of stuff like the internet ... and a lot of automation, resulting in less work, resulting in less paid work.

@nescius2

3 жыл бұрын

​@MaxSt Arlyn your lion analog somehow backfired - lions do live nomadic life-style when they are young or just feel like it and they can stop and stay for some time before moving again.. and the analog also does not work because (at least recently) we don't usually act like them - to challenge and defeat the male lion and kill all kittens.. not even people from the EU are like that ;). and borders are not great at stopping invading armies, are they? not even with fences.. i wonder why you think borders are good for you...

@nescius2

3 жыл бұрын

@MaxSt Arlyn invention of borders surely always helped the wealthy and powerful the most, i am not sure whether it helped with something else exactly.. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inland_Customs_Line#Legacy

Its like a mouse caught in a trap, flailing around pointlessly, aimlessly. Lashing out at other mice that get too close because it’s angry and frustrated. What we do is stand around pointing out the wrong things the mouse is doing, getting angry at the mouse for lashing out. When all we really need to do is get it out of the trap... being very low on the ladder myself, it’s basically what it feels like/what I see happening around me.

@sammyd7857

3 жыл бұрын

This is because people are fucked in the head. The biggest problem is quantity of quality.

@simodjordjevic2701

3 жыл бұрын

That's exactly right, straight to the point..we need to call shit by its name, for what it is, not just wonder around like a headless chook..

Brilliant interview...Thanks for this to both participants. It hits the nail on the head! The crux of the problem at present politically.

One of the best - and only - discussions on this subject. 👏.

Remarkably insightful.

Two of my favorite guys on this troubled Planet! Stay strong, we need your voices now more than ever!

@kuwapa

3 жыл бұрын

indeed, them and so many more!

2 of my fav people. Cheers guys.🥂

Great Video!

Thank you 😊

This is excellent . As always it's the ongoing processes of engaging these discussions amongst the woking classes ...breaking down existing cynicism and divisions. Can be done.....with Creativity and imagination. Never perfect. But for the better...we can have much better.

@ralph5196

3 жыл бұрын

Meant to read. ....engaging these conversations amongst ourselves. Brothers and Sisters in the Working Classes. Imprtant thread in this conversation about "symbolic cultural change and economic changes".

There are examples whereby social movements and working class people supported each other eg during the Liverpool Dockers dispute of1995-1997 (largely censored in the UK) social movements like “Reclaim the Streets” (forerunner to XR) united with Dockers in Liverpool and internationally. Several global strikes and actions happened which were inspiring and gave the Dockers strength and solidarity to continue.

“I personally consider borders to be a scar on the face of the earth”. Yes!

@andarted

3 жыл бұрын

@Marcus Cato There will always be [anything] of some kind. Being so unspecific, your comment is absolutely meaningless. The only fact of your comment is that you take opposition without claiming a position. Do you want to look smart? You don't have a message, so what's your intention?

@johnnyrocker7495

3 жыл бұрын

@Marcus Cato 100% correct.

@andarted

3 жыл бұрын

@Marcus Cato Tara expresses their support to the personal position of Yanis. That is, by definition, taking a position. You are bullshitting aka trying to waste everyones time. Have a nice day.

@maewest68

3 жыл бұрын

A scar is by definition, the result of trauma... where did the trauma come from and where will it go, without "borders"? A scar is a wound that has healed. I would regard borders as cell walls of a cell, or the skin on a body.

@MCeLysian

3 жыл бұрын

Lol this is the stupidest argument over semantics I’ve ever seen. Clearly when Yanis said boarders he meant national boarders between countries... and when he said scar, he is implying that they are an ugly imposition on the earth that are the remains of painful battles which we could do without... it’s not that complicated. Saying “there will always be boarders of some kind” is a non-sequitur because he’s obviously talking about a specific kind of boarders, so it’s not a response to anything being talked about. How about instead of twisting words and playing games with semantics we try to actually understand what each other are saying?

Okay now this is..awesome! Like Chris Farley said when he was interviewing McCartney on SNL😅

Nice!

What a question!!!!

access to the full interview is not possible in Greece without vpn

Imagine if instead of cancelling one or the other, people united using both paths?

@danielsykes7558

3 жыл бұрын

^^^ solidarity. Taking both paths is solidarity. ^^^ When I was in school, I joined some usually urban groups that are starting to bridge this divide, but we need to go further. These two organizations do exist in the rural US, but they aren't as strong as in urban areas of the US. I would say similar things about the Progressive International in the US actually, I don't know of many (if any) rural hubs of the Progressive International. At the Sunrise Movement and the Democratic Socialists of America we intentionally uplift Black Lives Matter and stand in solidarity at actions, but we also have started to bring food to union strikers, join the picket lines, et cetera, because we need real labor power, we need unions. I think that the rural united states, especially Appalachia, needs to be explicitly included in our antiracism efforts. The upper classes of the US and the middle class as well, seem rife with bigotry against the people of Appalachia. Upper class whites in the US still uplift the gentility of the south, even as they deride country or folk music (both of which used to be used for causes on the left, like class solidarity, union strikes, and racial integration, even if those messages have been stripped from the genre for the most part). Bigotry often stems from pain, and the superficial bigotries of language can often be moved past, and we can learn together. I think that the onus is on liberal and left groups to reach out to the rural (largely scots-irish and latino/latina/latine) working classes in the united states. I'm currently in a rural area, but when I go back to school, I should bring this perspective to the city. We should then leave our urban bubbles intentionally to network with workers in rural areas. Those of us who know middle class liberals, should encourage them to open their minds to rural America, and to stand in inter-class solidarity. It shouldn't be considered politically correct in middle (nor upper) class liberal circles to derogatorily call somebody a r*dneck or a h*ck or a h*llb*lly, but if some of us working class white leftists want to reclaim the term redneck because of our history of solidarity with black folks, or any other term we want to reclaim, we should do so. We should wear it as a badge of honor. Also, like you've said, there's no reason to cancel each other for slipping up, or even being ignorant of different notions. I think that when we meet together face-to-face in solidarity in both urban and rural picket lines, these conversations can blossom. I've never seen anyone truly get cancelled face to face. Particularly not by people who are intentionally trying to tie our movements together. I've also seen people my age coming together through Tiktok. There are a lot of rural gay folks on tiktok and lefty-types who have served in the armed forces, and Appalachian socialists, all of whom still respect their queer and trans siblings, uplift people of color, and stand in solidarity overall. I think that as we age, if any of us end up finding ourselves in positions of privilege or in middle-class circles or in academia, we need to be careful to not divorce ourselves from our working class roots, or if we were raised middle class, not to divorce ourselves from the poverty of our 20s, or our unemployment during 2020. I think we all need to be aware that the structures of the institutions (that we may enter into in order to get food to our own tables) may influence us in the end. We need to cultivate and maintain inter-class solidarity just as much as we cultivate antiracism, just as much as queer liberation. The answer is not 'either or', it is 'yes and'.

@kuwapa

3 жыл бұрын

wow very insightful comment for KZread thread, I think it's a general sign of the pivotal moment we are all in! Being working class, and opting for more freedom than the careerist path personaly - I would just add how the working class also has a responsibility to reframe & reimagine our circumstances to liberate ourselves from the ideological work pride bias that can be so alluring to us. It is essentially what John Lennon's working class hero was about. I struggled with that sense of identity myself. I think its natural for us to rationalize our the sacrifice and suffering we may be vulnerable to on a personal level in a dog eat dog system instead of recognizing its somewhat inherent in the exploitive nature of the system we participate in. Obviously its not easy for many of us to reconcile our own responsibility in the matter when were just trying to survive but this is still essential to see beyond our own circumstances and take part in a vision of something bigger than ourselves- like progressive internationalism!

@Joggly420

3 жыл бұрын

@@_....J........................ collectivism in a nutshell

@hawkstrike18

3 жыл бұрын

@@_....J........................ maybe not fascists, because these got the insecurities, complexes and hate which blind them and affect their judgement to the point they become downright paranoid and addicted to fanaticism and a distorted idea of the world where they are both the hunted and the hunters (they are (self-)destructive yet the left are responsible for everything bad and control our minds and want the west to fall), but finding common ground with anyone who's trying to be reasonable, by being understanding ourselves and using serious arguments&pure logic about the basics (how we end up having certain ideas, for example, what's behind them?), shouldn't be impossible. Now, how many are truly reasonable, that's another story... (btw, yh, I have to mention that I myself have met many supposed leftists(?!)/progressives(???)/SJWs(?) who act like immature fascists in practice, or, to be more exact, their favorite (paraphrased/enriched) motto is "if you don't agree with me 100% and you criticize my comments/language/behavior in the slightest, you're a misogynistic fascist yourself". Fascist behavior and mentality isn't limited to fascists, sadly. And that needs to be addressed, we got to be serious if we want to see real positive change. Altho it's probably too late for that already. But hey.) It's exactly this objectivity and realism that can unite ppl, imo. Divide and conquer has to stop being so effective so easily. We got to become mature, honest, and eventually, united. For now, the only ppl who have united, under Mr 45, are the only ones who shouldn't be united.... Who are the true imbeciles/incels/whatever insult we use to describe these fools...? Please listen to: Thrice - Only Us p.s. I don't exclude fascists myself btw, I talk to them too, with almost the same respect as I show to anyone else, at first. But they always end up saying completely one-sided things that are twisting reality or present half truths (and I don't tolerate these, especially as I'm trying so hard to be objective and understanding), and don't even return the respect usually, so I understand that they're beyond redemption. Maybe same goes for the fanatical supposed left... Completely blinded ppl will stay blinded, I guess.

This interview is very much the dangly bits of the dog. 2 marvelous gentlemen indeed!!

The all star names at the end.... man sign me up for that team!!!!

About time you had a second go.

Unfortunately "Luminary is not yet available in your country.", so we cannot listen to the entire conversation :/

But but.. future ideas are awesome, problem is How to get rid off present politicians and bankers who give zero ffff about these brilliant ideas

Luminary is not available in Greece.. why is that? How can we watch the poadcast in Greece?

We truth in our leadership. Whatever economic theory we apply if strategic manipulation is involved the system will fail. It doesn't matter if libertarian or progressive.

Very interesting to see there is a way out of the abyss, but it will need enormous effort.

Omg YES!! Huge fan of Yanis!!

@Mzbonezz

3 жыл бұрын

Wait I thought this was Russell's KZread 🤣 meh, I won't delete haha

That was brilliant ... from your views on boarders to the uniting of international peoples for what sounds like global local growth 🎯🎯🎯 I’m keen to see change and am spreading the word of change to all around me 🙌 and as far as I can reach on the net (which isn’t far haha🙌) I proposed a document to unify but localise society ... it’s really to get people thinking , and considering the idea we can change the structure of society to benefit all not some 🙌 I propose we don’t need leaders but organisers .. I believe documents could replace leaders 🙌 and what you started to say at the end was very interesting 🤔 I’m keen to see an end to unhealthy hierarchy , realising hierarchy is a handy structure in some cases 🙌 just not all , any thoughts on that ? ✌️💚☯️🔱

What episode is this on luminary

"Globalization is the complete free movement of capital across the world at a touch of a button". Thanks...that is a very precise, simple and accurate way to describe it.

@Confucius_76

3 жыл бұрын

Can capital move across the globe that easily though? Aren't there any impediments to it?

@kmakiable

3 жыл бұрын

@@Confucius_76 The swift banking system, the internationalization of the dollar and the US military have made sure those impediments go away.

I am reminded of a B.Traven novel called The Death Ship in which an American sailor loses his passport and remains trapped on a ship because he cannot disembark anywhere without papers. Traven wrote many wonderful books including The Treasure of the Sierra Madre and The March to the Monterias about mahogany harvesters in southern Mexico. No one ever knew who Traven was and that was not his real name. One PO Box in Mexico City was all we knew.

Add Patti Smith's song "Citizen Ship." Maybe she read Traven.

The reason the ‘metropolitan’ liberals are so alienated from the traditional blue collar population is that the liberals are the modern equivalent of the petite bourgeoisie. They identify with capital and want to strengthen its role in their lives, just as the petite bourgeoisie do. Technically speaking, the liberals are “working class,” but they live an idealized existence. Luckily for the rest of us, Zoom and remote work via the internet will subject the liberals (the professional - managerial class) to the same wage pressures that traditional blue collar workers have experienced. This is called Factor Price Equalization, or more pointedly, ‘the melting of the snowflake.’

@osc8910

3 жыл бұрын

You had me up until zoom.. what effect does zoom have on wages.. I don’t see what this has to do with intl trade

@peternyc

3 жыл бұрын

@@osc8910 What happened to blue collar labor has been happening to white collar labor for quite some time - outsourcing to 3rd parties domestically and abroad. The professional managerial class is the base of the Democratic Party, and their fate is hastened by the virtual office using online tech such as Zoom. Why pay $80K to an American accountant when $20K will buy the same service abroad? This is my point. I didn't mention international trade, but of course it has implications for that. The payments made to workers abroad would be same as dollars spent for goods manufactured abroad - negative numbers in the current account of the U.S. balance of payments. I take it your are from the UK. I don't know about your national accounting. You tell me. Does England run a current account deficit? London's square mile must be eager to configure its workforce to take full advantage of currency arbitrage in offshoring of services like I described here.

@osc8910

3 жыл бұрын

@@peternyc I meant intl trade as in the outsourcing abroad as a consequence of trade causing the factor price equalisation but I see what you mean now. The argument for protectionist measures preventing blue collar work being shipped overseas as a consequence of trade lib stands but surely this is nothing more than a taste of their own medicine for these neo petite bourgeoise and will yield no beneficial consequences for the average worker. And yes we’re running a 4% deficit on current a/c. But as far as I’ve seen managerial roles in the UK for firms that can relocate those abroad are already from foreign firms and are even increasing their presence here (Fujitsu comes to mind) but I think we’re moving into a higher wage bracket here that wouldn’t be so affected as by HR decisions down the pay scale.

@peternyc

3 жыл бұрын

@@osc8910 Thanks for the info. I can only say that white-collar professional jobs in the U.S. have been declining slowly for at least 20 years. Labor unions here have been trying to organize this population for 20 years. It used to be hard, because the PMC see themselves as the petite bourgeoisie, and not as the working class. This, I hope, will change because of Covid and the virtual office. Once the PMC move down in wages and income, they will see themselves more and more as precarious (as in Guy Standing's Precariat).

@osc8910

3 жыл бұрын

@@peternyc I’d argue the main danger to PMCs is the bulging London bubble which is bound to burst as firms madly try to escape wage rises while those outside the South East remain stagnant and ripe for the picking. That is to say it is a danger to the existing London centric managerial class, not all all managers across the nation that are stuck with bonus-less low wages, not that they deserve a bonus...

I don't know about Bernie Sanders but Corbyn had virtually the entire press against him ( including the Guardian).

@archyology

3 жыл бұрын

Bernie was continuously attacked by the US mainstream media and his opponents constantly boosted.

I call it the cap doffer's paradox.. If you tell a 'working class' person they are doing something that goes against their own interests, they take it personally and think you have said they are stupid, which is bloody stupid!

@alfsmith4936

3 жыл бұрын

@Wanker Wanker Why is it snobbish to suggest a lot of people doff their caps and tug their forelocks to privately educated toffs, who haven't got the majority's interests at heart? It's quite the opposite and you are the snobbish one here sir.

@alfsmith4936

3 жыл бұрын

@Wanker Wanker Ah yea. So I did lol. I'm working class. Most the people on my estate are dumbasses. What of it? Working class people have been against Jeremy Corbyn and for Cameron, Theresa May, Boris Johnson and to a lesser but more foolish extent, Nigel Faridge for a start..

@alfsmith4936

3 жыл бұрын

@Wanker Wanker brexit might be another good example of getting people to vote against their own interests.. That was (And still is) a world class con on all classes, by a few elites, who wanted to make people work for less money, while they saved some. Top work really. They didn't even try and hide the lies.. Just called it 'project fear' and now blame the E.U lol.

russell doesn't understand this has been happening since raygun/thatcher ... the difference now is that the us working class is completely wiped out ... when raygun came in it had just started

This is spot on. It's the difference between those who work hard for a living and those who just want everything for free

That is why a vanguard is necessary

I need that shirt

'Genuine sympathy', that rarest of commodities.

@katejudson8907

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, but then what?

@CSGraves

3 жыл бұрын

@@katejudson8907 ideally, what should always follow sympathy: efforts to alleviate that which induces the sympathy in the first place. Practically, of course, the task is seldom so simple.

Just read Gareth Stedman Jones, in his "Outcast London", p.333, about the Fabians' compromise with Imperialism in the 1890s, against "undesirables". This policy has been repeated so many times by Labour and Democrats!

Original release Dates would be nice.

Can't agree more, un particular regarding the limita perspectiva, in fact I've been thinking the greatest threats form climaterio chance Will be the límits ofl states and private property, both defended by force when adjustments would imply migrations.

Does anyone know what brands politics are?

@_suse_

3 жыл бұрын

Last I heard he was an anarcho-syndicalist

We need to back Diem25!...and re-establish real democracy in Europe. Good honest men are needed to weed out all the corruption in Brussels.

When haven't the working class been condescended to? I'm a deplorable to many....mostly people who haven't spoken to me.

The problem is not that people disagree, it’s that they refuse to work together unless they agree on 100% issues, tactics and strategy. Any disagreement is framed as “you hate who I am”, and that is not just the college SJW, but also the common folk...

@carlosgaspar8447

3 жыл бұрын

yanis fails to mention that he's called trump a xenophobe for wanting to extend the wall along mexico (and other comments trump has made) but won't call out brexit for doing the same.

@AK-tx5lr

3 жыл бұрын

@@carlosgaspar8447 The wall is about preventing people to seek asylum in the US after leaving a L.America that has been devastated by US colonial warfare and (largely US-caused) climate change. There is no other reason. Brexit happened for several reasons, one of which is immigration, true, but it cannot be reduced to that...

@carlosgaspar8447

3 жыл бұрын

@@AK-tx5lr colonialism can also be blamed on britain, france, spain, belgium, the netherlands and just about any western european country now suffering from illegal immigration. the cages built for those crossing the u.s. border illegally were built by obama's administration. www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/kids-in-cages-debate-trump-obama/2020/10/23/8ff96f3c-1532-11eb-82af-864652063d61_story.html to accuse trump of racism is the meme of the day; trump had never held any political office till 2016 but somehow he's responsible for colonialism?

Real vs symbolic change

Yes Yanis, as you would well know Ricardo's theory of CA includedas a key assumption of relative immobility of capital internationally, not domestically, but internationally. That's not what we've got!

@EclecticSceptic

3 жыл бұрын

It also completely ignores 'international relations', i.e. imperialism.

used to hate brand few years ago, thought him completely bonkers, delusional and a hypocrite.... today I have only admiration for him and what he's been doing. keep it up man. on the other hand I admired Yanis from the beginning. :)

Hoop we are contact city to city . Country to Connery in 1 platform

Did it seriously take him two full minutes to ask this ridiculously straightforward question? Jeez.

This!! Tell a straight white male making minimum wage that they're privileged, and see where they tell you shove it.

@fuckfannyfiddlefart

3 жыл бұрын

It was fat, older, white, males that voted Boris Brexshit instead of Corbyn Labour, so the identity politics are the OPPOSITE to what you are arguing!

@TomYeeha

3 жыл бұрын

Do you think it's easier to be black or white

@mhkpt

3 жыл бұрын

@@TomYeeha I think it's easier to be white and making minimum wage than black and making minimum wage, but it's not easy, and that's what the term "privilege" when applied in this context sort of implies. Resolving this economic inequality issue would do a lot to resolve the race inequality issue.

@jansamohyl7983

3 жыл бұрын

@@mhkpt That, I believe, is Adolph Reed's point. Look him up if you have time.

@electracv9154

3 жыл бұрын

They are privileged compared to other people and minority groups . Let's say we have a straight white male and a gay white male , but both are bottom working class. The straight white male is more privileged compared to the gay one, because in terms of difficulties and discrimation, the straight man only* faces problems caused by class disparities, while the gay one faces homophobia on top of class issues. *The use of "only" is not meant to undermine the working class struggle, nor the struggles of a straight white working class man.

The problematic is that all political and socio-economic institutions and theories have an immensely narrow optic of the ontological identity of the human being. Humans will never be completely understood, hence the extreme effort of all institutions to create a human identity which fits their ideology. The reason for this, is fear! Fear of not being able to be in control. In other words, all political systems are merely materialistic, as they ignore fundamental aspects of human beings, such as subjectivity and spirituality. This means that they are always bound to fail. I believe that the answer to our problems would be a global Socratic humility; « I know one thing, that I know nothing ».

How do we armor the system so people's votes decide instead of shares in a corporation? I like Varoufakis idea of a central public commercial savings bank and shares for employees

@johnboettcher1962

3 жыл бұрын

I think - and it should be noted that I'm an idiot - that the best system would exploit our worst nature. In other words: whatever the solution is - if it is to be truly sustainable - we must base it on greed and unenlightened self-interest. How to do that? I dunno. I'm an idiot. But there are non-idiots that might be able to work it out.

@raimonestanol8234

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnboettcher1962 Agreed, we shouldn't have to rely much on the good nature of people

@johnboettcher1962

3 жыл бұрын

@@raimonestanol8234 More than that. We should exploit the bad.

@raimonestanol8234

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnboettcher1962 how? The priority should be preventing, mitigating and minimizing the "bad" effects no? Second priority "exploiting" it may work for me, but how?

@johnboettcher1962

3 жыл бұрын

@@raimonestanol8234 If you design a system to work against human nature it will not be successful.

RB is so hard to listen to. You can see the strain on YF face trying to figure out what he’s actually going on about. Cut the waffle man.

@hobbabobba7912

3 жыл бұрын

I like Russell but I think this is partially true.

Errr what exactly was the question?....yes?

Can somebody count how many words were in the opening sentence? I'mtoo lazy to... but guessing more than 200.

@gabeadams2926

3 жыл бұрын

That’s Russell 😂

@snesleywipessqueegeeservices

3 жыл бұрын

@Peter Piper 👏👨‍🎓Wow PP...you da 💣! 😁😁😁

@filmserve

3 жыл бұрын

Watch opening question with sound off. Hilarious.

YANIS DO A VIDEO ON R/WSB...AND $GME....ANOTHER NOW

@drhaze8680

3 жыл бұрын

Good idea 💡

@virusd900

3 жыл бұрын

Yes please!

@DaSkonk

3 жыл бұрын

Yes indeed - would love to see that! Was actually searching for one, when I came across this; hope to see one soon.

4:35

YANIS IS ABOUT TO GO MAINSTREAM IN THE USA, HYPE HYPE HYPE

@MassDefibrillator

3 жыл бұрын

huh?

@user-ec5yo7ki7b

3 жыл бұрын

Why not?Just get him off the Greek paeliament and affairs

Hear hear. Yes to internationalism.No to globalisation

I (may be naively) believe that every human being on the planet is supportive of minimum basics of life. I.e have the security of a liveable roof over our heads, clothes on our backs, food in our cupboard, clean running water sanitation & utilities, education and health service. I believe perhaps naively that the money exists between all of us collectively rich and poor to pave the way to this becoming reality. However I am reluctantly coming to the view that many politicians are mistrusted and are of such poor quality the normal person in the street does not support them or the groups that hijack them and distort the message / actions. The more I listen to Yanis the more I am understanding and thi k perhaps his views are in the right direction. I do however find that the intellectual discussions and many of the words or terms used confuse and loose the message and become a bit to clever. I'm busy looking up the meanings of neo liberalism proletariat etc etc. Perhaps to have a wider appeal the language and message needs to be simpler?

How does Russel's set up work? I know nothing about technology and keep getting conned by buying rubbish. Are his wired headphones connected to his laptop? What about the mike?

My heroes. ❤❤❤

If there's boarders I'm going to come and camp in your lounge, for a few years.

@Confucius_76

3 жыл бұрын

Don't you mean "if there's no borders?"

the corporations want a free flow of capital, you know adam smith and the wealth of nations message. what these fascist leave out is that part where adam smith said also there needs to a be a free flow of labor to counter act the rise of capital as a political force.

@Confucius_76

3 жыл бұрын

I think the real fascists want restrictions on capital movement as well. It's the globalist elites who want free flowing capital, and they're technically not fascists

People are strange; when you're a stranger. || (ManufacturinG iSent) ; ikantGet NO witout SnakeEater-Vents..,

Borders keep people in as much as out.

@End-Result

3 жыл бұрын

Hear hear

@micbear9334

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely

@tishsimonnet5376

3 жыл бұрын

So true! The Great Wall of China was all about centralisation, Hadrians Wall was also not to keep troublesome Scots out but about the repression of the native English by Rome, Without the Wall they would have fled to live free and prosper

@Confucius_76

3 жыл бұрын

@@tishsimonnet5376 where did you read that about hadrian's wall?

@tishsimonnet5376

3 жыл бұрын

@@Confucius_76 I’ve thought about it, the Romans wanted to grow more wheat to feed their armies, so they invaded England., You can’t grow the crop further north, and the natives were alarming so they put a fence up!

great thought this internationalism

Commenting for engagement. There will be no capitalism in the future btw, depends on how far in the future we are talking about of course. But capitalism will either collapse or morph into something more social as opposed to antisocial and psychopathic as it is now. That the world and governments would actually work for the majority not the minority. And this movement has begun and it's only gaining strength. We will see an amazing amount of change in the coming 5, 10 and 20 years. Technological and social change.

@gerdownes3278

3 жыл бұрын

Where can I get these optimism pills you're swallowing. Do you have anything to base these lovely ideas on, or is it just a hunch?

@jennifercarter6788

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, Lenin thought the same thing 100 years ago!

Id put my salary in post office except fr the queues and no atms

@heathcliffearnshaw1403

3 жыл бұрын

I did , until the UK Post Office told me “Sorry , we’re discontinuing this facility, you’ll have to have it paid into a bank”. This was only a year ago.

🖖🤘

What is that dress he is wearing?

(c. 2:50) 'the weaponization of identity politics'

It's interesting how Yanis speaks of the mexican/us boarder but fails discuss the Turkey/EU boarder and the freedom of movement that has been dismissed against international law of millions of refugees, hypocrisy

@LouFiasco

3 жыл бұрын

It's not interesting, it's actually pretty simple. If you are giving a lecture (interview/podcats/wtv) for an international audience it's best you keep your examples to things that everyone knows. He could have have used dozens other examples of "difficult" borders in the world, but it wouldn't reach as many people as this comparison did. And also, no other border in the world is so "economically powerful" as the Mexican/US one. Not even Russia with China. Also, go read on his views on that Turkish/Greek border and then comeback with your findings.

°°°^∆\\\\\ isn't weird how polarity duality minion's ask for compassion even though they are in deep deep lip-service. Ain't that crazy! Reclaim the Scapegoat or be lost in fake is.Real and Love is not pretending.

Why are there thousands queuing at the wall to get into the US for a job? That's the problem, no necessity for a free for all. A need for national economic growth which is dependent on free or cheap education, and foreign governments following Hongkong.

@tracik1277

3 жыл бұрын

Mary Fountain Are people leaving Mexico in droves because of financial problems? I ask for a personal reason, could you elaborate at all?

It's 2 min 7 and I'm still listening to the first question! Interviewer loves his own p o v

I've done all sorts of crap jobs and worked with people from all over Europe and the world. However, some states are wealthier than others and people move to these areas. This is fine for middle class types, but for working people this increases the labour supply and drives down wages. This is why people are voting for parties which put up walls. It's not pretty, but that's another reason the left is losing working people.

Brand, you ask such long winded waffly questions, you should get to the point quicker. Varoufakis gives superb answers.

It’s the economy, economy, economy. That helps all of us, it’s not that people don’t want equality of opportunity it’s that it will be achieved through the economy. Imo most of the social issues will dissolve if not be greatly diminished, because people will be doing ok in a good economy. That’s why focusing on the social issue that doesn’t help everyone is not and will not work. Do the economy first and social justice will follow naturally imo. I think the overwhelming majority of people will want to look after other people as long as they themselves are being looked after. It’s the circle oF LIFE AND IT MOVES US ALLLULULL. 😂

was he wearing designer jeans for this interview? 😎

@veronicarodriguez8094

3 жыл бұрын

he's such a little hottie he should get out of politics and into Hollywood production instead. follow in the footsteps of Giants like Obama ☺

The UK will not move past the current divisions unless we stop demonizing each other for whatever we voted for (or didn't vote for) in 2016. It is important to look, every time an divisive issue is put into the public domain, at where it has come from, who has made it public, how it is worded and what is implied by it in terms of blame. While the population fights among itself, gangsters in expensive suits are making a killing.

Nice robe! my only concern would be brands not a cult leader yet right?

Most of the Left I most of the working class are divided on class, opposite on many cultural values and often bitterly opposite on ways forward.

Keep language simple

Russel Brand discovered politics at 40. Good stuff, it's never too late to get educated. Footnote: you are one of those metropolitan liberals you are mentioning.

@Leonnicko

3 жыл бұрын

Nothing wrong with being a metropolitan liberal.

@ernesto4118

3 жыл бұрын

@@Leonnicko enjoy it!

Sympathy, for sure, in case we are looking for a democratic way of solving the problems and create a localized culture of democracy within that will situationally recreate itself and catch a synchron with other democracies simultaneously in every and each turn and twist in the country. Of course. Yet...this brings us to the expectancy (Erfordernis even) of sympathizing with radicals who transform democracy in a "na, let's see what the Volk devides" pragmatism which totally harms the philosophy and freedom promised within and our "pragmatic democracy" loses even its symbolic value. Symbolic democracy was something we critisized...And then came pragmatic democracy with the slogans "democracy in action!". OK, we said, "applied" will it be, this way or that way..And today we have abolished almost all the sophistication within in the sense of direct democracy as if we were in a small village. Almost direct voting as if in a communal-local election! Can you imagine? Representative Democracy was very complicated to apply so we were kind of compromising with the symbolic one...But this...now...Neither representative, nor direct; yet direct in its applications in case you have a proper look at the propaganda. Well, noone knows how our democracy will survive really: I call it "directed democracy" by the way☺. But we go on; knowing that it is at least not a dictated one...Why are we experiencing jail within our freedom and why are we experiencing dependency although independent: This, we can't understand and I completely reject to act according to the perceived dependency, and dictated jail personally: So these are the results, I personally could reach through rejection ☺ So, I reject sympatizing with populations who sympathize with democracy, but not really interested in a democratic regime. I won't and I can't. "But, but, Democracy comes after, my dear" attitude is an idiotic attitude, and is a lie some people tell to themselves to keep believing. Democracy is not a belief, it is a way of self-organizing, it is scientific, it is emeging history of thought itself. It comes before. It is conditional, infrastructural and non-compromised. So, I say, not democracy, but you...you come after in case you expect democracy comes after sympatizing with anti-democratic procedures and processes.

Just for the record and for a bit of historical background, this tactic of separating the "Left" or "Progressives" from the traditional "working class" via various propaganda methods is definitely NOT new. The exact same fissure was created and exploited during the socalled 60's (which, of course, went on well into the 70's) such that working class white men were systematically enrolled into the idea that it was the cry for freedom for Black people and women, that was ruining their shot at the American dream. People like MLK, Malcolm X, Fred Hampton were all killed just as they started to talk about unity between oppressed minorities and the larger working class--a very threatening alliance indeed to the Ruling Class. And the Left often fell for it also, calling things like LGBTQ struggles aspects of "crumbling decadent capitalism" thus widening the divide between working class people and other freedom fighters. Nothing is new. Only our response can be.

Why are people in "know", using so many different EMPTY words to describe "shit", it's colour and bad smell..why aren't they calling it simply, shit..99% of people on the planet are in this "shit", so why are people afraid to speak about it..

"Luminary is not yet available in your country." Talk about borders haha, cannot even listen to the full podcast.

Varoufakis in cuckoo-land.

Jessie yanis, , didn’t think you would converse with this dope