Been waiting for this one!!!

50 mins, wow, very thorough. looking forward to your hedd 2 and/or austrian composer review!

@TheWorldTeacher

5 ай бұрын

I really like the HEDD, but they are far too heavy for my tiny head. 😢

This is the end game of headfi purchase validation addicts. Being addicts, they feel the itch to keep it up, but need more and more esoteric methods to get the equal amount of dopamine fixation. This is what happens. You get people saying a headphone that legitimately sounds like a Mcdonalds drive-through with 10% THD is acceptable. Because the size of the fixation needed means things that normal people never need to think about like esotericness, expense, and exclusively come into play. When you are this far in, they become required traits of the fixation.

@thomasvullings97

8 ай бұрын

Get ready for one of 3 replies; "Have you heard it?" Implying there is no way you could have this conclusion if you did. "Keep thinking that". A deflection used by addicts without confronting anything actually objectionable. "This is a hobby". Implying we shouldn't call out this behaviour. Addiction doesn't just ruin you, if not pushed back against, it would normalise the behaviour conducted by others.

@Maver1ck911

8 ай бұрын

You can just say it's dog shit. Heard it at canjam. It's dog shit confirmed.

@ayushbhaumik7980

8 ай бұрын

$5000 means a different amount to different people, its not that headphones cant be worth that much money. If you have to save up every penny for months to afford these headphones and their requisite DAC/AMPs then it just means these are beyond your league.

@Maver1ck911

8 ай бұрын

@ayushbhaumik7980 I have 4 different iem/ headphones over 3,000. These Yamaha are trash. I also own a Yamaha trumpet and it's phenomenal, unfortunately these headphones are not.

@ayushbhaumik7980

8 ай бұрын

@@Maver1ck911 Please understand I am not trying to say these headphones are worth 5000$ for everyone. I was replying to the top comment because its implying that anyoner who purchases audio gear worth tens of thousands of $ is only doing so because they are " addicted" which is totally not true because there are many people for whom $5000 is worth the price difference as they their disposable income is enough to afford such gear without suffering from sunken cost fallacy.

The Sennheiser HD 800 and the Focal Utopia have had a baby, that was my first thought when I saw the Yamaha YH-5000SE. 😂

thanks for the honest and detailed review!

Kindly do an informative video on low impedance-high sensitivity and high impedance-low sensitivity. What amp/dacs to purchase and what to look for.

Interesting, i agree with a few of your points for sure. My experience was very different from yours but i also have a totally different chain than yours.

Hoping you can get to the new DCA E3 soon. I think it’s really excellent

this was another clear and good review👍I hope that you will also review the Meze empyream ll in the future.

@wavetheorysound

8 ай бұрын

I'm on a list to receive an Empy 2 review unit but I'm something like 6th in line so it will be a few weeks.

I am writing this comment before watching the review. I just wanted to say that I tried these headphones at CanJam New York last February, and I was disoriented... I could not understand if it was a defective pair, or just had broken drivers, or if something was wrong with the chain driving it.... Bottom line, I hated it! I thought it sounded very weird, artificial, and not like a normal headphone, it sounded like there was a reverb applied, and the sound was tiny and as though it was happening awkwardly far from my ears. Someone there even mentioned that this was Yamaha's attempt at competing with Susvara, which is absolutely laughable. So I don't know, $5000?! Are they kidding?! Now that I vented without being influenced, I can go ahead and watch the review.

Thanks for your very best review that we waited so long for this headphone. I bought this one from Japan for 3K , and I dont know why its so expensive in US. Actually I like alot but still my Susvara is #1 in the list.

@djhmax09

8 ай бұрын

What chain do you use with your yammy? And why do you like it more than susvara? I'm just curious

@metrichalo5849

7 ай бұрын

The thing is the Japanese yen currency is super weak now.

@malihajji2870

7 ай бұрын

@@djhmax09 Hi there bro, if the headphone is a high end then its depend what kind of AMP you will use. yamaha yh-5000 is very close to Susvara on many ways but susvara still the king of all headphones. For me Stax SR-X9000 is the pinnacle of the headphones , its the ultimate God of all headphones.

@djhmax09

7 ай бұрын

@@malihajji2870 I appreciate your reply but you did not answer any of the questions I just asked...

@enjoshi-godrez8775

7 ай бұрын

@malihajji2870 he asked what YOUR chain is. You just gave a chatgpt reply of a summary of how high-end hifi works.

Can you review the fiio jt1?

kind of resembles (if you really concentrate) audio technical ath-awas or awkt.

The general feedback on the yammys is they are a must use with tubes. I have 0 experience with them 🤷‍♂️

@wavetheorysound

8 ай бұрын

I've heard the same. The only tube amp I have on hand is the LTA MZ3 and it did NOT help.

Vs. Caldera ?

I haven't heard these headphones but it seems like they are the typical Yamaha house sound.

Please review DCA e3 review

Why would you spend $5,000 on a pair of headphones, just to turn around and artificially screw with the tuning via EQ? That makes zero sense to me. Like you said, just get Susvara. Or Utopia. Or the D8K Pro.

@wavetheorysound

8 ай бұрын

I agree, but I know someone is going to bring it up so I preemptively made those comments.

@enjoshi-godrez8775

8 ай бұрын

You act like EQ doesn't improve all setups, which it emphatically does in all cases.

@Tacet137

8 ай бұрын

​@@enjoshi-godrez8775I does but you spend 5k for a very mid product

@ZandoNoid

8 ай бұрын

Every headphone/iem has improvement room with EQ, either because of tonality, personal preference or HRTF. If you're spending this much on a headphone might as well try it out and see how it holds up.

Yamaha release a yh5000 FE (fun edition) and make it like 3500 and just lay it back and ill buy it lol keep the resolution just retune it to be less finiky and more fun everyone ive seen talking about it says roughtly the same thing and it makes me hurt bc theyre so damn pretty and light

Yeah, not a good idea to buy a ~$5k headphone and have to EQ it.

@ornobislam5106

8 ай бұрын

Anything and everything has to be eq'd. Reason? Otherwise whats the point of so many products, tunings? Us semi experts have given rise to the boom of headfi. Now we are just the pilot testing subjects at the hands of companies. Sad indeed

Wow! It’s remarkable how similar we are in headphones we don’t like! When I initially heard the YH5000SE, my opinion was the it was a good $2k headphone. At $5k???!!! No thanks!

@hemispherecompensation

8 ай бұрын

In Japan it's around 3k. 5k is the markup you get in the USA. Blame your dealers

@iikatinggangsengii2471

6 ай бұрын

i also prefer cayin and lessfox, but tt has huge potential

I used to own the original 1978 made totl Yamaha yh1000 and heard the yh5000 briefly at a headphone shop and was massively disappointed with the sound quality for the price they’ve listed it at. There are better planar headphones out there for under $1500. I mean it sounds okay but nothing really special. I think they’re only at best hd800s level.

@maxcardif9879

7 ай бұрын

What did the original sound like?

@metrichalo5849

7 ай бұрын

@@maxcardif9879 neutral, natural , better timbre, lively, smaller soundstage and not congested like yh5000. The yh5000se is more comfy and lighter fitting though.

@maxcardif9879

7 ай бұрын

​@metrichalo5849 that's impressive considering its age.

Quite surprised by the comments and the review! I spent some time with these headphones I can confidently confirm two things: first, the tonal balance is absolutely outstanding in the sense that they sound so realistic and neutral that acoustic records feel completely indistinguishable from live music to the extent that it becomes scary, especially noticeable with drums; second, bass is the biggest achievement in this design - its clarity, tonal accuracy, and details cannot be even compared to anything else but live instruments. So this headphones may not be suitable for tone deaf audiophiles but, for professionals or someone who has sharp trained hearing, these headphones will be a shocking surprise, in good sense

@Starsunder81

8 ай бұрын

this reads like a weirdly passive aggressive, snobby post lol

@timpecker2527

8 ай бұрын

The only one that is provably tone-deaf is you.

@timpecker2527

8 ай бұрын

It has way too much energy in the lower midrange making vocals sound honky and unnatural like a drive-through speaker and has a Grand canyon level, very sharp recession in a pina region that swallows all fundamental harmonic of string instruments. It is a genuine failure in making an authentic reproduction of the human voice and instrumentation.

@enjoshi-godrez8775

8 ай бұрын

Professionals are quite often completely tone-deaf in the studio. This is why they use headphones like dt770 and m50x. Because they don't know better of mordern HRTF research. You are one of these people.

@wavetheorysound

8 ай бұрын

You're clearly in the group of people I said will enjoy this headphone. That's great! A genuine congrats to you that you've found a headphone that works great for you. I don't know what your experiences are like and how similar or dissimilar they are to mine, but ultimately it doesn't matter. The question is if the person who may want to use this headphone enjoys it. That said, I have a comment on how we can all use listening experience to evaluate sound gear. One area where we all have a lot of experience is in hearing the human voice. If you're human with a functional auditory system, chances are nearly 100% that you have a lifetime of experience learning what a human voice sounds like. I think that being human and having a functional auditory system is all that's necessary to be able to determine whether electronically reproduced human voices sound reasonably close to the real thing or they don't. My ears tell me that in stock tuning and with either set of pads, the Yamaha YH-5000SE does not reproduce the tonality of human voices accurately in any way, shape, or form. Since a huge variety of musical instruments overlap with the frequency range of human voices, then by extension this headphone does not accurately reproduce the tonality of many instruments either...and least not for my ears. If it does for your ears, great! But let's also be clear that no one's experience, no matter how extensive or varied, qualifies them to tell another person whether they are hearing accurate tone or not. Hearing through someone else's ears is an experience NO ONE has.

Some people know how to use EQ and some do not, it takes a lot of time and listening to dial in EQ. Some good measurements are also very helpful. While this headphone is certainly fixable with EQ, I think the tuning is garbage for a $5k headphone (I heard it at CanJam SoCal 2023). Yamaha should be embarrassed. Too bad, such a beautiful piece of industrial design.

I really did not like this one, and with yamaha new dedicated amp... total disaster

@wavetheorysound

8 ай бұрын

I agree on the not liking it. Disaster may be a bit extreme. It does some things extremely well and in ways through which it will find an audience. But is it going to cause large numbers of Susvara or Utopia owners to switch over? Very doubtful.