Wow, I've never really seen such an in-depth video on the Leslie like this before! One of my favourite effects ever, even works wonderfully on guitars. Splendid job!

@WoodyPianoShack

3 жыл бұрын

i could have gone on for two more hours. splendid job to any viewer that makes it to the end!! :D

Thanks Woody, this is really good stuff. I rally like the YC series, would probably prefer the YC88 for piano purposes, but love the organ direct control. You also made me play with my Genos, which initially I thought didn't have that many options to control the rotary parameters. But now I found out that you actually have lots! of options to control the parameters and now it really sounds like a Hammond organ (as close as it can get of course).

Fantastic Woody!

Another really informative and interesting video. i now know a lot more about Leslie Speakers. I've tried the simple rotary setting on my YC61 and have incorporated it into some of my presets. As a newcomer to Hammond Organ, I'm pleased to be able to shape the sounds I'm achieving more than on my Yamaha CSP170, even if it falls short of the real thing.

Whoo I was literally binge watching b3 videos on KZread last night. Then I wake up to this, woody is too good

@WoodyPianoShack

3 жыл бұрын

my timing is impeccable!

Nice video, as always. I had the automatic subtitles on, and when you tried the alternative built-in simulator at around 45 min. , the subtitles wrote No no no no no no 😂

Yes it has potential... I love the grit but the rotor needs work!!! Great video.

Great video, Woody.

I do appreciate that I now know 1000% more about organ emulations and drawbars and all after watching these videos.

@WoodyPianoShack

3 жыл бұрын

probably 990% more than anyone in their right mind actually needs to know... :)

Looks like you are loving this Yamaha!

@WoodyPianoShack

3 жыл бұрын

it's been such an inspiration, but has got me lusting over the much more expensive hammond organ clones now...

The drive in YC really adds some grit to the sound. Great for classic rock but I prefer the smooth, rounded floating kind of hammond / leslie sound.

@arjay1949

3 жыл бұрын

The Leslie sim in the YC61 is not good -- especially on fast. Listen to the YC61 through a Neo Vent and you can get a much smoother ('rounded, floating' ) kind of effect. (Video clip of that combination here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/gGmlm9Oumbeohso.html )

I bought L'otary from PSP and it changed what I thought a Leslie SIM could be. It also demonstrated just how much the Leslie has to do with the b3 vibe. I can play any sine waves though it and it sounds very much like a b3. Mostly I use NI's vintage organs collection using l'otary as the Leslie and there's nothing short of the real thing that can compete

Great vid

Hi I am using standalone VB3 issue 2 from GI. I've got two 61 note controllers with 9 sliders each mounted in a gutted home organ chassis The rotary is absolutely PHENOMENAL as is the organ sound itself. (And I used to gig an L100 back in the day)

@WoodyPianoShack

3 жыл бұрын

sounds like a great rig, would love to see a photo if you want to join our discord! vb3 is awesome, yeah.

Nice to see just how much air the Drum on Andreas Leslie pushes out at it moves the label on the cymbal stand.

@WoodyPianoShack

3 жыл бұрын

i noticed that too, pretty impressive!

Nice one Woody! I never tested Blue3 but I think I will do it tonight on my notebook. I am a strong fan of IK Multimedia B3X but one more Hammond clone is never bad. VB3II from GSI is also extremely good. IK Multimedia has the rights on Hammond and Leslie trade marks and I think their Leslie is the best in the digital world. I am going to test physically an YC61 as soon as I can get to a store. Andrea plays so well. Thanks for everything!

@WoodyPianoShack

3 жыл бұрын

yeah, i have an old version of VB3 somewhere, it's always been incredible and is the engine in the Mojo, I tried the IK emulation, but was somewhat underwhelmed, VB3 or Blue3 for me :)

@furiobisotti8150

3 жыл бұрын

@@WoodyPianoShack I think VB3 make II is much better. Give it a try, Woody. Some friends in Cantabile forum (a wonderful VST host and automation system) like Acoustic Samples B5

@CalifaAzul

3 жыл бұрын

@@furiobisotti8150 Just listened to the B5 and it does sound pretty darn good!

Thanks Woody, Im glad you pointed how Wobbly the Leslie is.. I returned My YC-61 and waiting for the Hammond SK Pro.. I love Yamaha and 90% of My studio is Yamaha, but this had to go!! Yamaha, Please, Listen to the Real Organ Players!!! The Leslie in the YC61, Hands Down, STINKS!!!!!!!!!

@WoodyPianoShack

3 жыл бұрын

haha, thanks for sharing, enjoy the hammond!

@arjay1949

3 жыл бұрын

The YC61 much better through a Vent... until (and if?) Yamaha do something about it.... Example here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/gGmlm9Oumbeohso.html

I use to have a 61 Hammond T-500, was best sounding instrument ever owned.

@DaraM73

3 жыл бұрын

@Michel de Nostradamus I couldn’t be arsed correcting the date after mistyping

Hello Woody, thanks for your great demonstration and explanations. I really like my YC61 overall except for the stereo field from the Leslie Sim. I Could not come close to a warm and smooth wide field Leslie rotary effect. I miss some parameters to control distance and angles for microfon settings like in some VST's. Hopefully Yamaha will put it in a future firmware update. In the mean time for some songs I use the "B3x App on an iPad" additionally to come close to the real thing controlled by the YC61 via USB witch works fine.

@WoodyPianoShack

3 жыл бұрын

cool, congrats! i'm constantly surprised with the 3 organ models, just when you think you've get to know them all, you suddenly find some new combination of rotary and organ settings, which gives you a completely different hammond, it's awesome and I'm sure people can coax out of this pretty close to whatever organ they have in mind. how are you getting on with mapping YC control panel to the software ?

@surfer1033

3 жыл бұрын

@@WoodyPianoShack , in YC61 i create a special "live set" in Mastermode for 2 Zones as upper/lower and set "External Keyboard" to "ext only" and only for the organ section. Don't forget to switch "Midi Control" on manually because this will not be stored in Live Set. Than i match all for me important CC parameter from YC(user manual). So mainly Drawbars, organ volume, Leslie Volume, rotor slow/fast, spring reverb on/off etc. It's up to your taste but not all is possible what the B3x is able to receive so far. With this setting the great thing ist that the internal YC organ will not sound in parallel but you can use the Drawbar sliders, switch and some Knobs to match with B3x easily. You can still use the YC A and B section as normal. Because my iPad is placed close next to me I can switch on/off Perc, Vibr, Perc Vol etc directly from the B3x organ screen on the fly from the iPad air 2 touch screen.

Two hours ago I was watching a video from Alamo Music Audio Lab about the Yamaha Reface series. He mentioned a Rotary speaker; which I didn't know anything about.. so I spent half an hour watching videos on Leslie rotary speakers; and then now I get to work and see that you've just uploaded one right to my feed! Nice timing!

@WoodyPianoShack

3 жыл бұрын

people always say my timing is excellent. except for other musicians.

@caktalfraktal

3 жыл бұрын

@@WoodyPianoShack haha good one

I have blue3 and I am an Hammond organist and I think the blue3 "ORGAN" is the best vst out for the "ORGAN" but the Leslie in that comes with it is not completely realistic, but paired with another Leslie simulation that is realistic, it gives you the same feel of the real think

Still watching!

Woody, if you can get your hands on the new Hammond SK Pro, would love a review, thanks!

@WoodyPianoShack

3 жыл бұрын

interesting keyboard for sure, not totally into the concept though, would prefer myself to try one of their more organ-specific clones.

I like the additional sounds on the yc61 better than the organ but may get it and use it to control Hammond B3X from IK Multimedia for the organ sounds

@surfer1033

3 жыл бұрын

I agree and do it like you said using my YC61 for some songs to triggering B3x and hope for a Leslie SIM Firmware update.

Woody, that RA200 cabinet is Yamaha’s mid-1970’s take on the Leslie speaker. The three treble speakers on top rotated in a non-synchronized way, adding to the depth of the sound.

@WoodyPianoShack

3 жыл бұрын

ah good call, thanks for clearing that up!

@BrunodeSouzaLino

3 жыл бұрын

There's also a Fender version of the Leslie which sounds quite different and is the "Leslie" you hear in Black Hole Sun. You also have the Doppola, where the speaker rotates instead of having its sound pass through a rotating drum.

The simple rotary blows away the main rotary. Now I can think about getting this keyboard.

Looking at when you put this together, Woody, I wonder if the YC you play here had been updated to firmware v1.3. This update has made big improvements to the rotary speaker section. The ‘Studio’ set up (now the default for Rotary ‘a’) sounds a ton better to me (I have very recently bought the YC88 and updated to v1.3). Perhaps you could do a follow up vid around this?

Hi Woody, thank you für your Demos. Would it be possible to make a demo in terms of computer integration.How do I create a live setup where I, for example, layer or split sounds from the computer and the YC 61? As an example on the right an organ sound from the YC 61 and on the left a pad sound from the computer.

"And leslie, lets go full organ on that"

I have had my eye and ear on that Korg Vox Continental, I have always favoured the Vox over the Hammond and with all the money I have saved during the lockdown I'm going to treat myself to one with a few more months of saving.

@WoodyPianoShack

3 жыл бұрын

i despise the sound of the vox and farfisa combo organs, but luckily the vox has a b3 organ as well, cool looking board too!

@BrunodeSouzaLino

3 жыл бұрын

@@WoodyPianoShack Can't do your best Ray Manzarek on a Hammond though.

@chipgaasche4933

3 жыл бұрын

@@WoodyPianoShack anybody who despises the Vox and Farfisa organs are either young, stupid, or both.

For a very realistic hardware Leslie effect check out the neo Instruments Ventilator (either the original one or the Version II). These are modeled off the Leslie 122 and sound phenomenal without the bulkiness of the Leslie. I find them to be an instant plug & play improvement to most clonewheel keyboards.

@WoodyPianoShack

3 жыл бұрын

lot of players raving about the vent yeah!

Hi ya Woody. I recall way back in my younger days when a regular local country band would playing at a nearby hotel. The lead guitarist had a Gibson semi hollow body of some sort and was using a late Model 760 Leslie Speaker. It was the first time I heard it used for guitar. But I though, gees Sam, that's a pretty big chorus pedal to be lugging around don't you think?

@WoodyPianoShack

3 жыл бұрын

i would agree! you should have swapped amps!

This, together with the CP73 is the ultimate gigging setup for me.

@vanessajazp6341

3 жыл бұрын

I have a Montage 7 I use with the YC61. Best setup I’ve ever had!

Excellent and fascinating! Would you please review the YC61 since the latest 1.20 firmware update? I think we would all be interested to hear your thoughts on not just the updated rotary sounds but all of the other wonderful features included in this wide reaching update!

@WoodyPianoShack

2 жыл бұрын

i don't have my YC any more, it was on a temp loan, but from the demos I've heard it sounds great, right up there with the very best. the other features passed me by, already forgotten what they were.

@ethereal-11.11

2 жыл бұрын

@@WoodyPianoShack Well thank you for the quick reply, we all really enjoy your excellent commentary in everything you review.

I had a unique opportunity to visit a music store that had a Numa Organ, YC-Reface, Nord Electro 6D, Korg Kronos, Hammond XK3C, and Crumar Mojo 61 all sitting on the showroom floor. Several of us were able to spend about an hour demoing all of the keyboard's leslie simulator. The unanimous voted was that the Yamaha YC61 lesile sim was voted the weakest of all the other lesile sims. Most notable was the Numa Organ.

@WoodyPianoShack

3 жыл бұрын

nice one! which was the best overall clonewheel sound of that bunch?

@JoelBouchillon

3 жыл бұрын

@@WoodyPianoShack The XK3c sounded the most like well...a Hamond. But the Numa's Leslie sim was obviously the best (as long as you monitored it in stereo) The stereo image of the Numa almost sounds 3D'ish. But, monitoring the Numa in mono, didn't sound as good as the Nord when comparing the Nord in mono. But, to be fair to the YC61, the YC could easily be the champion if Yamaha could vastly improve its leslie sim to at least the sound of a Neo Ventilator. On other note, I hope I get a chance to play the new SK PRO. This keyboard may be the game changer.

@WoodyPianoShack

3 жыл бұрын

@@JoelBouchillon interesting, thanks, and the xk3 is the old model, the xk5 supposedly improved in every regard, but very pricey,! not too fond of the looks or features of the pro, but am upgrade to the sk2 with the new hammond sound engine would be pretty tempting! yeah, i've been doing my research! :)

@candylounge7962

27 күн бұрын

Can I use the hammond EXP100F pedal for the yc 61 and control volume AND leslie sim with this pedal?

Thanks for this very good review. BUT, for reference I think you should have used the B3X software instead of Blue3. I bought the Blue3 and it´s an exellent software and was my go-to vst for a couple of years, but I still felt something was missing. Then I got the B3X and haven´t used the Blue3 since...Mostly because the lesley sim in B3X is really superior. A pity that the YC is lacking in this area, looks very promising in other respects

@WoodyPianoShack

3 жыл бұрын

i did try the demo, but I think my favorite might still be vb3!

Thank you so much...your video confirmed that Yamaha has yet to make a convincing Hammond organ emulation...I’d like to hear the yc61 through a Leslie

@WoodyPianoShack

3 жыл бұрын

Fingers crossed!

@ReallyDudeYouGottaHearThis

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. If the leslie sound was better I’d be all over this.

@arjay1949

3 жыл бұрын

Even playing the YC61 through a Vent is much better than the current sim.... This video clip: kzread.info/dash/bejne/gGmlm9Oumbeohso.html is an example of that

Hi Woody, now what would you like more: YC 61/73 or Hammond SK pro ?

I’m leaning more towards NordE6-73key:semi weight. There are more sounds available and a better resale value towards future upgrading. Most importantly the Key-bed feel. Knowing I have to consider compromising for the mod and pitch wheel and not so hot synth zone. I’ll just use a cheap mini keyboard to hack for the mod-pitch wheeIs. As for the synth section that will be reinforced with the Waldorf iridium desktop midi to the Nord. If we’re to throw in the Wild card Hammond Sk pro? Your thoughts are greatly welcomed and deeply appreciated. Thanks for your support.

@WoodyPianoShack

7 ай бұрын

I wish also to try the hammond, but i have no contacts there, and can't justify buying one just for a video

Very interesting. Although I've played many Hammonds and Leslies I'd not realized how long the lower rotary speaker takes to slow down and stop! Also check out Tony Monaco's channel for a wealth of B3 info.

@WoodyPianoShack

3 жыл бұрын

yes, i was surprised too, already a member of tony's school!

The cloth on the bottom rotor is to minimise air noise.

@WoodyPianoShack

3 жыл бұрын

hmm, yeah, that makes sense!

I hope you get a chance to show us the new yc73. I was hoping for 73 waterfall action but could be pursuaded to favour the 'balanced piano' action if it feels good.

@WoodyPianoShack

3 жыл бұрын

same here, the weighted 73 is of no interest to me.

@adamandlorraine

3 жыл бұрын

@@WoodyPianoShack I guess it would be an expensive manufacturing choice to offer the 73 in waterfall and hammer action. However Nord do offer that choice in the electro range and at a cheaper price.

@Sloimer

11 ай бұрын

I guess best of both worlds would be owning YC88 and also YC61 right? 73 seems like a waste…

Some Good points however at the section you are supposedly demoing the Leslie on its own, you have the Chorus / Vibrato effect on at the same time (timestamp 7:35 all the way up to 15:40) which can be confusing for some Newbies that are not familiar with the Leslie / B3 sound and the way they work. ElectricEddie

THANK YOU for noting the weakness of the YC61 rotary sim!! That has been my ongoing gripe with that keyboard. The simple rotary IS better as for as spread, but you have no control over noise and other parameters. For ramping the rotary up/down, I use a foot switch. Much more convenient than having to take my hands off the keys in the middle of playing. The background noise on the YC61 is really nice.

@WoodyPianoShack

3 жыл бұрын

new firmware today with 4 new pianos, yay! no changes to rotary afaik, haven't installed it yet... let us know...

@vanessajazp6341

3 жыл бұрын

@@WoodyPianoShack Looks like just a few new sounds and parameter modifications. They say the changes are based on listening to their customers, but the single biggest thing I hear on EVERY forum and social media site is a need to update the rotary sim. So... DO they listen to customers or not? yamahamusicians.com/yamaha-updates-yc-stage-keyboards-to-os-v1-1/

@vanessajazp6341

3 жыл бұрын

@@WoodyPianoShack Hmmm ... Yamaha says the updater is available beginning Jan 14th, but I've scoured the site and found nothing but a couple of brief mentions. Maybe it's available in the UK, but not yet in the US?

@WoodyPianoShack

3 жыл бұрын

@@vanessajazp6341 available now, i found it, hunt around a bit, 1gb with all the new piano samples

@vanessajazp6341

3 жыл бұрын

@@WoodyPianoShack At last ... found it. It’s like hide and seek almost, geez.

We also have the New Hammond SK Pro 61 and 73!

@WoodyPianoShack

3 жыл бұрын

HI patrik, indeed, andreas and I were speculating today that you might have one! We should work on a demo together :)

@Tonewheeldude

3 жыл бұрын

@@WoodyPianoShack Yes 👍 I will have the Hammond SK Pro shortly!

@mrdali67

3 жыл бұрын

@@WoodyPianoShack It sounds nice. It seems a little clunky. It is presumable very lightweight (just over 10 kg's for the 73key version). Jim Alfredson already have 5 video's up with it :) kzread.info/dash/bejne/dn93qbF7id3gnaQ.html

By the way, very inspiring to hear Brian Auger's version of light my fire

@WoodyPianoShack

3 жыл бұрын

well caught!

@peterschut63

3 жыл бұрын

@@WoodyPianoShack Well Woody I need to admit something. 2 months ago I was looking into my first steps into keys (I am 57) and this version of light my fire was one of the reasons to learn to play. So the YC61 is my first keyboard and I am now in my first week of lessons..... I guess still a long way to go. Not only did you influence my choice for selecting the 61, you are also playing that song ......... creepy

@WoodyPianoShack

3 жыл бұрын

@@peterschut63 yeah, spooky, congrats, what a good board to start with, enjoy!

Nivc one. The Blue 3 sounds really nice. Sounds very close to real hammond. I like the base organ sound from it. You should try get hand on IK Multimedia's B3 vst. Especially the effect section. That is hands down the best leslie sim I have heard. Its the only sim that comes really close to that allmost "4d" effect you get when listenning thru a real leslie. But like you said, its still only 10% sound and 90% skill. You never hear any of the real Hammond players sound bad, wether its a vintage Hammond they play or a clone of any kind.

@WoodyPianoShack

3 жыл бұрын

well spoken sir! have been using the 10 day trial of b3x wasn't overly impressed, not at that price anyway, leslie was very good though.

@mrdali67

3 жыл бұрын

@@WoodyPianoShack Ya the actual organ is ok. not more, but the leslie and effect section is spot on

Liking Blue 3. Where can I buy it?? G-G Audio not functioning..

Hi Woody, your introduction to the YC61 a few weeks back tripped me into buying one last week. Ideally I wanted 73 keys, but wasn't available and also not expected by my local dealer untill last friday where Yamaha introduced the YC73 and YC88. The strange thing is that it doesn't come with the YC61's waterfall keyboard but the used the exact keyboards of the CP73 and CP88 respectively. So even though I was unpleasantly surprised I don't think I will return the unit for the YC73 ...... maybe add a CP73 and have a dual manual via MIDI

@WoodyPianoShack

3 жыл бұрын

yeah, i'm with you, weighted 73 a very strange choice for an organ focused keyboard, especially when CP73 is available for the piano guys. congrats on the new board, you'll love it I'm sure!

@peterschut63

3 жыл бұрын

@@WoodyPianoShack Thanks, would a CP73 next (under via Midi) be a nice choice? You have plenty keyboards there, is it an idea to make a YT clip about a YC61 with second manual via a 2nd keyboard?

@arjay1949

3 жыл бұрын

The YC61 has some great piano voices, which can benefit from being played from a fully 'weighted' keyboard... I use my old Yamaha P105 as a second keyboard to my YC61. You might look at the P121 ? Less money than the CP73 - although you will need a MIDI/USB host device like the Kenton to interface the P.121

If you tweak the leslie speeds from the menu, can you reach more realistic sim? YC61 default speeds of rotor 44.8/373.5 rpm, horn 45.4/413.8 rpm.

@WoodyPianoShack

2 жыл бұрын

yeah you can tweak that, i never had an issue with the speed tbf.

Pity the C3 chorus was on for most of the Leslie speaker sound test.

@WoodyPianoShack

3 жыл бұрын

yeah i put it on whilst demoing the sound without leslie and overlooked it for a while, lot of stuff to keep on top of!

Me: "Maybe I should stop procrastinating and get some work done". Woody: "... and here's everything you need to know about Leslies in just under 60 minutes!" Me: "Well then, bring it on!" ;-) Awesome video, and nice to see Nate in there. The performance in the middle bit was outstanding, too.

@WoodyPianoShack

3 жыл бұрын

so far nobody complaining about a 50 minute demo, always pushing the limits of YT typical viewer attention span :)

@spacepunch72

3 жыл бұрын

Sorry for coming here late! Everything about Leslie, apart from the history fact that the holy Hammond wasn't interested in the Leslie speaker at all and not before Suzuki got both of it, Leslie and Hammond. Of course Yamaha has its own character / interpretation of the RS but and I think it should be the player's interpretation of how to use it. Before I played a Yamaha organ, I had a Hohner organ with a lovely Leslie and some people may remember the Hohner ORT 100 Leslie speaker. Happy if you still have one! Woody doing an awesome job and Floyd you're right about how well he does show us in this limited timeframe (well in a time when people get bored about videos longer than 30s xD ) I've watched some amazing playing of the YC with Mike Patrick too, he handles the YC really well!

Hi Woody would you recommend YC73 or electro 6D 73 key?

@WoodyPianoShack

7 ай бұрын

yc has better features in every department, but I prefer the fatar keybed on electro, so tough one to call.

Does the harmonic you're hearing disappear when you turn the rotary background noise down?

@WoodyPianoShack

3 жыл бұрын

no it doesn't, that just turns down the hiss & hum, did you hear what I was talking about?

@richardpenrose1968

3 жыл бұрын

@@WoodyPianoShack Hi. Yes I hear the harmonic that your mention. On some of the old Hammond vsti's I used to hear something similar when the rotary was turned on and was wondering if that was the issue. I've got a YC-61 arriving today and will check it out.

@WoodyPianoShack

3 жыл бұрын

@@richardpenrose1968 congrats, you'll love it i''m sure, i'm still tweaking and finding great sounds every day!

I've had my YC61 since last May. There are many things I really like about it ... The rotary (Leslie) simulation is not one of them... Put simply - it's just awful! .. (especially on fast speed). Yamaha have (so far) made no attempt to improve it. Their development engineers can't all have cloth ears - they must know it's bad? - Maybe they just don't know how to do it?.... In the end I simply bit the bullet and bought a Neo Vent.... It makes a HUGE difference! (Sample video clip here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/gGmlm9Oumbeohso.html ).. If Yamaha engineers don't know what to do, maybe they might swallow their pride a bit and pay for some outside help? ... We do know that IK multimedia - and Neo of course - have shown it can be done..... Come on Yamaha, this bad simulation is letting down a potentially really great stage keyboard.....

@andreacosta74

3 жыл бұрын

they seems to have in mind the L-100 that Keith Emerson stabbed and reaped at the end of ELP’s concerts…

@KlausLive

2 жыл бұрын

It's almost unbelievable but take a Ketron Arranger Keybaord (p.e. SD9) an hear the rotary sound.

@mrdali67

2 жыл бұрын

Its kinda interesting, cause Yamaha always had some decent "base" organ sounds. I have used both the Yamaha TX-802 and some of their "Arrangers" and the base organ sound is ok. Their leslie sims always failed tho. I Used an old Dynachord CLS-22 on both my TX-802 and the PSR-9000 Pro, and it was miles better than even the newer sims they use in Tyros line and the genos, and even the expensive Genos can't keep up. Quite weird as Yamaha have a great reputation in making advanced DSP ever since the dawn of digital processing, making some of the best reverbs, DSP processors, digital mixers etc, and the DSP is one of the great things especially in the newer Tyros models and the Genos, but a leslie sim they never managed to do well.

@ianperesmusic

2 жыл бұрын

The new 1.2 update has improved the YC Series Leslie immensely, as well as adding some really cool new FM organs. Check it out!

@arjay1949

2 жыл бұрын

​@@ianperesmusic It certainly does !.... it's been long time coming, but the new Leslie sim is a BIG improvement. I would say it's now pretty much as good as my Neo Vent. I never thought I would ever be saying that...... :)

Never been this early

@officialWWM

3 жыл бұрын

xp50player that's not what your wife says...

You can dive into the menu under sounds and turn up the bass rotor and turn off the horn to individually test the effect and tweak it to a better balance. If you turn off the horn completely you can really hear the bass rotor effect. You can change all the aspects of speeds and acceleration/deceleration to make it your own. Eventually they might improve it but the longer they don't the more it worries me. If it was a simple fix it would have been corrected long before the 73 & 88 were released. Or Yamaha is in denial or can't fix it one. Yamaha is extremely bad at not talking about up and coming improvements and/or especially flaws. Their reps exaggerate on how perfect it is but will never say we're working on it.

Sorry, but the B-3X of IK Multimedia is way more realistic then the blue3

@ReallyDudeYouGottaHearThis

3 жыл бұрын

B-3x is the kind of organs. So real sounding. So lush. I can hear the wood in the cabinets .

Does the plugin simulate the Hammond multi contact key bed? That's just 99% of the Hammond sound before you even consider a rotary speaker emulation.

@WoodyPianoShack

3 жыл бұрын

trouble is you can't emulate that unless you have a keyboard with 9 contacts, right? might come close with velocity control, but not the same.

@BrunodeSouzaLino

3 жыл бұрын

@@WoodyPianoShack Hammond's XK series does it with a regular velocity key bed and I believe VB3 does it using a similar mechanism of dividing the velocities and assigning them to reach drawbar.

@BrunodeSouzaLino

3 жыл бұрын

I downloaded Blue3 to check and it does have contact emulation. I don't know how accurate it is by comparison, maybe an organizer could tell.

@Jenairaslebol27merde

3 жыл бұрын

@@BrunodeSouzaLino yes they do it with a regular key bed but one of the newer ones with 3 sensors, so they group 3 (virtual) busbars per sensor and afaik you can also adjust a slight delay within the group and i think also which busbar is located on which group. so it is not completely the same as a real vintage hammond (or the "new B3") with 9 individual contacts, but it comes very close and makes the difference in sound and feel. but i think the most important thing for the best sound is still a REAL leslie/rotating cabinet. you will have so much more fun, even with a mediocre hammond clone. i started with an XB2 right 25 years ago, and the digital leslie was just shit. i was quite disappointed. but in the same year i got an L122 and suddenly it was amazing! it is just the complexity of the sound ... all the reflexions and transmissions in the cabinet itself etc .. still cannot be simulated 100% obviously. they have come quite close now, really close and it is good for some backing chord tracks or so (or practising etc with headphones). - but then take an ordinary mic and record a real leslie (with a B3 in the best case of course) in mono from a random place next to it and it will just sound awesome. hot. sexy. you can hear the difference in andreas' video.

@BrunodeSouzaLino

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jenairaslebol27merde It's hard to determine because of how the story of both devices crossed paths. Laurens Hammond didn't like the speaker and, consequently, Donald Leslie didn't like the Hammond either. He tried to sell the Leslie speaker to the Hammond company, but was refused and they even changed the pinout in their proprietary plug to prevent the speaker from being used. I don't know how reliably you would get the same sound running a Farfisa, Vox or Wulitzer through a Leslie because I've never done it. There's a free plugin version of the L122 you can find. I believe many people despise it because it's not a tone wheel organ and because many of the defects present in the B3, like the key click, were fixed.

Did I imagine a YC-73 or 88?

@WoodyPianoShack

3 жыл бұрын

coincidentally they released both today!

@DaraM73

3 жыл бұрын

@@WoodyPianoShack I thought I dreamt it haha. Lockdown madness.

I'm a bit dissapointed on the new yamaha. I still prefer my nord electro 5 b3.

The rotor sounds the like the Yamaha produced Leslie and not from Leslie®️

Running the vibrato whilst demonstrating the Leslie fast and slow is confusing to novice listeners. Rather turn the vibrato off.

@WoodyPianoShack

3 жыл бұрын

totally agree with you, if on, then it was by mistake, lot to keep in mind when doing these demos and easy to overlook stuff, sorry!

This thing should cost $800 max. Same as the Roland VR09 or 730 (put Nord in there too). Overpriced items. Sorry

Please, don't refer to Andreas as a male again cause now she is a woman.

@WoodyPianoShack

2 жыл бұрын

thanks for clearing that up!

Yamaha .... poor sound 😒