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Perfect platform. We got lost in gadgets and power.
recently saw an hour long video by BMW of their 4 day ride in Australia. At no point in the video did I feel that the riders required the big 1200 GSs. 99% riders will never utilize the full potential of these bikes, so I think Yamaha has a winner on their hands.
By far, this is the best Tenere 700 Review. Reviewed by a true, mature professional. I love the simplicity and power-to-weight that this bike has. Well Done!
Great review-look forward to more reviews by MCN on this modern classic
I have at last had an oportunity to ride it while my bike was serviced. I found myself talking to it in delight! So much fun, just a few minutes on the dirt and I am no expert so I had to take it easy. Fun is the overall word for this. As usual Yamaha have got it spot on.
Love the ADV reviews by Michael Guy and Chris Northover
I love the simplicity so far, this is I want. The KLR is gone, I loved how basic the bike was but needed more power or one more gear. I think the Tenere 700 could be the new KLR. We'll see.
@jackchristodoulou197
4 жыл бұрын
sancochito75 same reason why I just sold my Dr650 I needed one more gear will buy a T7 very shortly
@OOOUZ
3 жыл бұрын
And it's a Yamaha 😊
@kwakkers68
3 жыл бұрын
New KLR coming in .... Also not too techy ... sounds great!
He looks genuinely happy
Ty very usefull review and comment section. Think about buying one i like everything I hear about it.
Thats a great bike! Maybe this could be my next bike for 2020! Enjoy the bike life
great review/run down thanks mate!
Fantastic and informative review!
great review... thinking to put my hands on one of those >D
Great review, awesome bike
I haven't seen or read a single bad review about the new Tenere. Yamaha have good history and Dakar pedigree to call on..it's a sensible price, all these 10, 12, 15, ...nearly 20 grand prices are crazy. The MT engine is terrific and one of the most reliable out there, what's not to like!!. Apart from the fact no one has a demo bike yet....Cheers, Steve
@willmaster5640
4 жыл бұрын
Stephen Eldridge 100% Agree. Yamaha will get my money.
@xlthumper
4 жыл бұрын
I have heard a few negatives, seat is uncomfortable after medium length rides and the suspension while good for road and mild rough stuff bottoms out easily. And 2 up is not a recommended concept. Oh and it is top heavy. I think the selling point on this bike is the motor being so smooth and tractable. In Canada the price is good but add suspension and your pretty much in the ktm 790R range so I'm not sure. Hopefully we will get some test bikes aswell. I love the concept of the T7, simple.
@jeffloucks2120
4 жыл бұрын
Quite sure it will be every bit of 10k and some change once it hits the US. Pushing 12 by the time you get hit with taxes and dealer charges.
@xlthumper
4 жыл бұрын
Just got the CAD prices $11,999
@jeffloucks2120
4 жыл бұрын
@@xlthumper Saw that a couple weeks ago putting it just shy of $9100 USD. Just assuming we'll get the shaft somehow. :)
Has the Ténéré a throttle cable or is it "rider by wire"? Thanks for information.
great review
Cracking review well spoken and clear and no rubbish background music. I felt that the wait would be worth it rather than rushing to market with faults for the customer to sort out. 👍🏻
The first shipment of T7s is arriving in Australia in December. I went down to my local Yamaha dealer to book a Demo ride, but the dealer told me they have all sold out already, and I will have to wait for the next shipment in 2020. It's gonna be a popular bike in Australia.
@duncanwilliams3320
4 жыл бұрын
Really hope so from the looks of this review
this is the perfect adventure bike for offroad and road. i dont need too much power if you cant handle it well offroad
Nice little bike.
The only electronics u need is abs and lights.
@kwakkers68
3 жыл бұрын
And preferably not canbus - so you could fix it in the middle of nowhere if necessary :-)
Is it as good as a versys 650 on road?
I really like the looks of this bike. Wish it only had tubeless spoked rims.
Nice bike. Dash looks like my fish finder.
Looking forward to this. Got an old dr650. Excellent all around air cooled enduro. Never thought id see a liquid cooled enduro that would make me want one. Really like this bike because its not too much heavier than my dr650. See its about 430? My dr650 is about 370. So its not too much. For the mild trails and roads i go offroad its fine. Usually easier paths around. U 250 guys go ahead and break ur bones. Ill find the easier path. Twice the power on the highway diesent hurt either. Yup ill probably trade the dr in on one. Cant wait.
@wickedleeloopy2115
4 жыл бұрын
Still a better option than a KLR
I think Yamaha nailed it with this one.👍
My old TT 350 was about 140kg so the weight for a bike of this size being under 200kg is not bad really. I CAN see my self on one. Bit pricey tho
Lovely bike, but where ...WHERE is the weight ??? Does it have cast iron wheels ??? It's weight is exactly the same as my 4 cyl. R1. What is going on here ???
I'd have one for sure... but...shame it costs more than an MT09 here in Thailand. 😫 I had an MT07, so know that motor is indeed a peach.
Any idea when this will be available for sale in the US? Yamaha is killing us with the wait!
@sv650nyc7
4 жыл бұрын
The guys at a Yamaha demo ride told me it won't be in the US until sometime next year.
@alexrk1475
4 жыл бұрын
I know that on the Canadian website it says it will be available in the fall 2020, so I'm guessing it will be around the same date for the US!
Top heavy feeling?
Very.. refreshing
Elephant in the room is the fuel tank. I rode a 2012 Tenere for four years in Australia and the bigger tank is a god send on long trips with limited fuel stops. It's surprising that the new tank is so small even given the good fuel economy.
@kloppskalli
4 жыл бұрын
@@tkorte101 get a kato.. lol
@kloppskalli
4 жыл бұрын
@@tkorte101 l think its kinda standard feature of rally bikes, so also Yamaha knows the trick but they preferred the more conservative design
This guys a good presenter. Let's see more of him MCN.
@wildone2163
4 жыл бұрын
let's not.
does anyone know if they will be bringing out this bike but with a bigger fuel tank? adventure bikes eventually come out with bigger tank options like the africa twin...speaking of which im debating getting either this bike or the africa twin dct adven sport, have test ridden the africa, very nice bike, takes a lot of the workload off you, not sure if that a good thing or not...i like that T7 has gone for simplicity as if its not there it can't go wrong. Yam dealer did say though that the build quality on the t7 is nowhere near the africa twin hence the price too, but honda are very reliable too...what do you guys think is best to go for, for all round use? and should i wait till next year till both yam and honda bring out new models to iron out any issues etc? thanks again. sean ps i have 2 xt660z's absolute bulletproof machines
@neilwiddison6529
4 жыл бұрын
I am looking at a xtz660 tenere. 2010 model with only 5000 miles
@SeanDeodat
4 жыл бұрын
@@neilwiddison6529 trust me i have 2 of them, over 10 years with 1 and 3 with the other as my back up bike 23 lit fuel tank good bikes but this new t7 will be smoother so maybe you should wait for this to come out?
Rider Aids .. can you use a clutch, throttle & rear brake at the same time? Yes .. ok you don’t need $$ electronics.
Is the snatchy throttle from totally closed position noticeable even in higher gears? Compared to the KTM 790 Adventure and Adventure R what is your opinion?
@UndergroundSessions1
4 жыл бұрын
im sure this initial boost can be fixed with an ecu flash
@alpap1980
4 жыл бұрын
@@UndergroundSessions1 Would such action performed by non yamaha staff could void any kind of warranty?
@UndergroundSessions1
4 жыл бұрын
@@alpap1980 dont know man..
@jdubflylo
4 жыл бұрын
The snatching of the throttle was most evident at 1st and 2nd gear... less on 3rd, coming off the stop. Rest of 4he range is fine
@alpap1980
4 жыл бұрын
@@jdubflylo Thank you!
For true adventure bikes, simpler is better. Not too mention middle weight displacenent. As far as what the market wants, this is a step in the right direction. Just look how Royal Enfield Himalayan sales have done over recent years.
@rodjbosch
4 жыл бұрын
Considering tc is never enabled on my 1190 I'm pretty sure I don't need it. Electronic suspension had had some issues....sorta wish I didn't have it. Don't really care if instrument screen is old school. Simple is less to go wrong. No mention of cruise control....that would be a miss.... And price....well I am really curious what it will be in Canada.
@kawasjt
4 жыл бұрын
@@rodjbosch you won't have cruise control on the Tenere, it has throttle cables and not drive by wire
Very approachable lightweight adventure bike and with Yamaha reliability. This will be a successful motorbike.
@wildone2163
4 жыл бұрын
what is yamaha reliability today ? it is history. LOL
@richirving9802
4 жыл бұрын
Paul Van Hout the seat height is too high - I’m 5’9” and need to flatfoot - NG 4 ME
Beautiful bike. ... hideous dash. can' t wait to try it. Appearance and price definetely its stronger weapons
But the wheelbase is waaayyy to long, it is 85mm longer than the old XTZ750 and it makes it feel like a much bigger bike, or a battleship if you like... chop of at least 50mm and i will order one right away... well build, easy to drive and a very beautifull bike
@wickedleeloopy2115
4 жыл бұрын
Manufacturers add length to the swing arm to give it more high speed stability for highway speeds. As far as I can understand.
Funny looking thing isn't it.....quite looking forward to trying one of these out at some point, although looks quite tall......
@leftfootforward1040
4 жыл бұрын
Come on now tmf pot and kettle.😢 I think it's a great looking bike, an overgrown Dakar style. I wish it was smaller and lighter, I'm a small man and I want to get into t e t riding this is just to heavy for the inevitable multi pick ups. When doing proper trails fully laden this is too heavy me thinks.
@alrightdave6135
4 жыл бұрын
Looks great. Selling like hot cakes. A proper RTW contender.
@alpap1980
4 жыл бұрын
We are waiting a detailed review and of course comparison with the KTM 790 Adventure R.
@MotoGuzziMoto
4 жыл бұрын
You might be outside the bell curve on this one Mr Flyer. Keen to see your review of it when the time comes though.
Da real T7-Tiger
I like it.
I heard in another video that the *Yamaha Tenere* - T700 falls / crashes noticeably more than other off road bikes in the same conditions. Something to check out if you are "seriously" planning on buying one. BUT... The 2020 Yamaha T700 (Tenere) is a good basic bike. *_I strongly suggest_* you avoid the temptations by the industry & dealers making their videos on the T700. Never, ever buy a brand new design i.e. 1.0. WAIT about two to three years for the: - fixes to the design bugs & issues - improvements/modernizations like on the Honda Africa Twin & now Adventure Sport version - aftermarket parts & accessories to be available - for other folks not wise enough to wait, to buy it and spend their money not yours Something to think about that I am sure the video maker agrees with.
So if it’s basically a mt07 motor how is it different to the old xt660 tenere?
@TotalAnomy
4 жыл бұрын
CP2 is a twin, thus a much smoother and more linear power dilevery, with usable torque all the way to higher revs. The 660 was a single, and whilst it provided massive torque down low, it quickly tapered off on higher revs. Being a single, it was also thumpy
@mj_aussie_coaster_travels8310
4 жыл бұрын
Hail Helghan but he says in this video it’s a mt07 motor? Is he mistaken then?
@TotalAnomy
4 жыл бұрын
@@mj_aussie_coaster_travels8310 oh sorry, CP2 is the name of the MT-07's engine
@mj_aussie_coaster_travels8310
4 жыл бұрын
Hail Helghan I’m confused haha. I thought the mt07 had the 660cc single in older models and then newer models got the 320cc motor.
@TotalAnomy
4 жыл бұрын
@@mj_aussie_coaster_travels8310 naw dog, the MT07 is the bike that introduced the CP2 690 cc twin. I don't know about 320cc though, that's probably what's on the MT03
Now you have tested both Tenere 700 and KTM 790 Adventure R what are their main differences? Is the price difference justified and which one is more manageable for the vertically challenged riders?
@wickedleeloopy2115
4 жыл бұрын
Most KTMs are too tall for me. 35-36 inch seat. This is 34. Better but not perfect.
It's not CHEAPER. It's less EXPENSIVE! Cheaper implies junk!
Isn't this an old video ?? You tricked me.
@motorcyclenewsdotcom
4 жыл бұрын
It's a brand new video, maybe you saw Michael's social media posts from the launch. What do you think of the bike?
@timjrvine
4 жыл бұрын
Other guys did their review in this exact same spot so you might be thinking of that.
@montaego
4 жыл бұрын
@@AlanBoulter That is a large hole to fill.
@montaego
4 жыл бұрын
@@AlanBoulter Understood. Had to pick mine up yesterday..
Still wonder about the bike and possible suspension upgrades check this guy out! kzread.info/dash/bejne/pWqfp9GvZZOtgLw.html
Looks like a decent machine.
Are there two seats? The one on the blue bike looks like you'd be sitting on a razor blade. OK for going down to the shops.
@kloppskalli
4 жыл бұрын
you can alway opt for the Rally Seat which is just short of 300 pounds extra and adds a few cm seat height ;-)
Better late than never huh.....🤦🏼♂️
875mm 🥺
Great Bike but i couldn't wait and bought a Harley Sportster 1200. 9000 miles in a year and its been #Smilesfor miles :-) If I move to Spain or the Pyrenees i'll add this one to my stable ;-) Nice review
If Yamaha is smart , they should roll out ,the tenere 700 twin then a Tenere 900 triple & there 1200 together to complete there family ....they have the ability to...they have the power plants from the MT range. Don't think BMW of triumph would approve of it tho..... #lol
CAN YOU IMAGINE IF THEY MADE A T900 !!!! would have killed every single adv bike on the market !
@mattpierceplayz
4 жыл бұрын
i don't think the 900 engine would have been right. The parallel twin is perfect
@GallicGarlic
4 жыл бұрын
Nooo !! The market has enough elephants already .. >1000cc BMW, Honda Africa Twin, Ducati, KTMs..
@GallicGarlic
4 жыл бұрын
The market wants lighter bikes .. not heavier .. on this segment at least
@ausforce1
4 жыл бұрын
@@GallicGarlic I love the T700 , but if you think the 900 wouldn't be an absolute dream combo you clearly have never owned a mt09 lol keep the weight the same if not make it lighter as I m sure they could if they really wanted and it would revolutionize the market.
@GallicGarlic
4 жыл бұрын
I see your point.. But what the market wants is a lighter T7, not a T9 the same weight as a T7
You're 5'7" then.😂
I spent an hour riding the Tenere in July. It was competent but characterless. Nothing was wrong and yet I found it boring and uninvolving. The suspension was soft and gave little feedback. The engine was brilliant and yet no fun - it had no brio, no moments of excitement. I really wanted to like it but couldn’t. On the same day I rode the Africa Twin, and to my great surprise I loved it. This would be a great bike to go around the world and never have one moment of fun. What’s the point of a motorcycle if it isn’t just a little mad?
@andrewfurniss8944
4 жыл бұрын
Colin Low I want to be impressed. Rode a 600 Tenere for years. Took it all over Finland and Norway. This new bike just doesn’t seem the ticket. Might just have to go RE Himalayan. Seems to have captured the vibe the old XT had.
@colinlow1167
4 жыл бұрын
@@andrewfurniss8944 I was so looking forward to it. I rode a few bikes around the same track - Honda CRF250L, Africa Twin, an old KTM 640 enduro, and the new 700 Tenere. The new Tenere was the least fun - felt like I was wrapped in cotton wool or bubble wrap.
@andrewfurniss8944
4 жыл бұрын
Colin Low Mmm, what a shame. I’ll just keep searching eBay for an XT600
@istra70
4 жыл бұрын
Man - do you really want excitement ??? , what you are looking for is 1L sport bike or motocross racing machine . All dual sport are tamed to give you comfort, confidence and reliability coupled with economy.
@andrewfurniss8944
4 жыл бұрын
istra70 Never ridden an XT600 Tenere then?
Is it a large bike or is the presenter from Hobbiton?
@motorcyclenewsdotcom
4 жыл бұрын
Michael is 5'9" (and a half he claims). The seat height is 880mm so it's pretty tall but it's narrow. Hope that helps Dean.
@jdubflylo
4 жыл бұрын
It's a pretty tall bike. I'm six foot and the balls of my feet just touch ground while sitting
@mannyvatalis3610
3 жыл бұрын
I’m 5’10 and can just touch the ground with my toes, not great when pulling up to traffic lights or stationary. I don’t think the presenter had actually ridden it before his preview, just saying.
Seat height - TOO HIGH
@VAALLDDOO2
4 жыл бұрын
Lowering kit?
So we can buy an old adventure bike for a fraction of the cost of this one and still get a better looking motorcycle. Why did Yamaha even bother to launch this?
@JayBee-se8ou
4 жыл бұрын
Why are you buying an ADV bike for its looks? Go buy a Street Glide.
@corujariousa
4 жыл бұрын
@@JayBee-se8ou The looks is the icing in the cake but still important. I like the Street Glide but I keep dreaming about the Diavel 1260 S. The 2020 Honda Africa Twin is sweet too. Many welcome changes implemented. All the best to you.
Give it a color TFT screen and an IMU for lean-sensitive traction control and cornering ABS and I'm in.
There is no bike I have ever owned that doesn't have things about it that I hate. The question for me is, does a bike exist, that I wouldn't complain about? Converseley has a bike been made that is perfect? Anyone who says so should produce the evidence or check to see whether they are delusional. I have therefore lowered my expectations of what motorcycles can be, and am therefore trying to be more realiistic. If there is a perfect bike out there, I stand to be corrected, so feel free.
@Walkeranz
4 жыл бұрын
What kind of riding are you doing?
The T7 isn't too bad. But why are so many A-bikes built for such a narrow section of humanity? Average height focus would make much more sense. Yes - ground clearance O/R. but you still have to stop at some point. It might make for some awkward designing - but the obvious start point could be to look at drawing the sump upwards to regain ground clearance, whilst retaining a design for folks that aren't 965mm inside leg (ie most people!). A hardcore DL650 could be an obvious start point...
Guys, with the best of intentions, if you´re here, please stop whining about the seat height. Or go and buy a scooter......I mean.....
@sharknado7157
4 жыл бұрын
PS: I had a ´93 750 Super Tenére. Love to see you back baby (The 1200 is Yamaha´s GS).
Everything I hate with the new African twin was perfected in this bike
Actually, the KTM 1290 has 1301cc (as every motorcycle journalist should know...).
Disappointing, boring, over-priced.
yeah, yamaha disappointing since years already...
This guy voice is very weak. I need more focus to listen his talk.
*Yawn* 👎