Yamaha REFACE DX VS Yamaha DX7

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  • @ZenMountain
    @ZenMountain8 жыл бұрын

    Thanks. Apart from the expected noise, it's very difficult to judge, just because you decided to record the DX7 louder :(

  • @jtsxxi
    @jtsxxi6 жыл бұрын

    Tengo el DX7s desde nuevo comprado en el año '89 o '90, cartuchos y pedal de sustain aún funcionando. Todo un clásico!!!

  • @Viddychuu
    @Viddychuu3 жыл бұрын

    Aside from the disparities in low-end and high-end, DX7 has that warm feeling you won't get from the Reface, but the Reface definitely has some pretty crunchy pads that the DX7 sort of smooths over. If I had the disposable income I'd totally invest in both and overdub them.

  • @jonatassilva5038
    @jonatassilva50387 жыл бұрын

    I'm actually glad you guys gave some special attention to LegendEP sound. Fantastic!!

  • @saftpackerl
    @saftpackerl9 жыл бұрын

    The Reface clearly has less bottom end in this video. But more highs. Also the DX7 seems to be recorded louder. And there seems to be a small distortion on the louder dynamic sounds? I dont know if this happened in the recording process or is DX7 inherent. I think it would be good for objectivity to be careful about different levels. louder is always percieved better.

  • @keenankozar

    @keenankozar

    9 жыл бұрын

    saftpackerl i noticed this as well, not entirely objective comparison.

  • @mz2250

    @mz2250

    8 жыл бұрын

    As an owner of dx7 , i think that the distorsion is on dx7 itself.

  • @timmantle7154

    @timmantle7154

    8 жыл бұрын

    +saftpackerl Agreed, DX7 much louder in this video.

  • @JudeJaded15

    @JudeJaded15

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Marco Zoppi this is true. the dx7 naturally, has more noise. to the other comments: why not own both if you can afford to? the rf has too many advantages to get into here.

  • @SweetChinMuzik1

    @SweetChinMuzik1

    7 жыл бұрын

    hmm...yes the gain is lower on the reface, however, there are distinct differences in the harmonics. it's more evident in the sy the lead patches as opposed to the acoustic modeled ones. Also, the filter seems to be different between these lead patches...I didn't read the description., but I'm assuming this is factory preset comparisons. if so, the difference is quite pronounced.

  • @yamahamusicians
    @yamahamusicians9 жыл бұрын

    I think many of you are missing the point. This is not supposed to be a replacement for a DX7 but an "accessible" FM synth in it's own right. For a start it's a 4 OP FM synth so a fairer comparison if you were to make one would be against a DX100 or DX11. It's incredibly easy to program sounds on the reface dx, unlike most FM synths and of course once Soundmondo goes live on Sept 1st there will be a whole world of sounds to share amongst users. Also don't knock those built in speakers. I was doubtful myself but they are actually very good. I have tried the dx with batteries also and it's a lot of fun to be able to go mobile with one of these things. As for the pricing, well yes that may be an issue. I have all four reface keyboards here at the moment and the dx is definitely the best value out of the four. It's the most versatile but is it worth the asking price? Not sure yet. It's certainly well built and has quite a weighty feel to it. I'm not a fan of mini keys but the keybeds in the reface series are at least good quality and don't feel in any way "toy like". Street price when they hit the stores here in the UK is £289. I'm thinking were that more like £189 I might be tempted. If you need any more info on any of the reface models just ask. I should have them here for another couple of weeks before they go back to Yamaha.

  • @Goth108

    @Goth108

    8 жыл бұрын

    +yamahaforums the reason the Reface DX sounds worse than the DX7 isn't because of differently programmed sounds. It's simply because of lacking characteristics in every way. The DX7 has a character and soul of his own, while the Reface DX sounds as exciting as any other ever so average software synth. Very underwhelming. If I wanted the sound the Reface offers I'd just go back to using random plugins instead and get more exciting results from them.

  • @yamahamusicians

    @yamahamusicians

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Goth108 Again you missed the point. The reface dx is an instrument in it's own right. It was never intended to compare with the DX7 so why keep making comparisons with it. The reface dx sounds exactly as it was meant to sound. All instruments are what you make of them. It's the musician that counts and if you can't make decent music on a reface then your not a musician.

  • @Goth108

    @Goth108

    8 жыл бұрын

    yamahaforums so you're trying to say that the DX7 sounds more charming because it was meant to sound more charming? And the Reface DX sounds like a software plugin because it was meant to be without character? I don't think either is true, but whatever.

  • @yallimsorry5983

    @yallimsorry5983

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Caster Jr I recommend looking up "fm synthesis beginner" on youtube, alongside Power DX and Madfame's patch making videos.

  • @musicforturbulenttimes-muz7741
    @musicforturbulenttimes-muz77418 жыл бұрын

    Reface sam w sobie brzmi przyjemnie, ale gdy się go zestawi z oryginałem, to jest jak noc przy dniu... Dziękuję, Panowie, za porównanie - wiele rozjaśnia :) Pozdrawiam!

  • @shaman5150gmailcom
    @shaman5150gmailcom8 жыл бұрын

    Cuando salió el DX7, todos se quejaban y deseaban que sonara mas limpio y claro. Ahora que suena perfecto, como siempre quisimos, echamos de menos la mugre y el ruido.

  • 2 жыл бұрын

    Lol lol lol, así es. Creo que las nuevas generaciones están acostumbradas a escuchar todo más limpio, con menos ruido.

  • @lb1823

    @lb1823

    2 жыл бұрын

    @ pero nos queremos escuchar sonidos ruidos y analógicos

  • @robotunes
    @robotunes7 жыл бұрын

    Not a DX7 but a DX7mkII. Big difference. The DX7 can play 16 notes at the same time, and so can the DX7mkII, but it can also can layer two tones and play 8 notes at a time for a thicker, warmer sound. I wonder if that's what's going on here? I love the DX7mkII. One of my favorite synths ever.

  • @PepperDan

    @PepperDan

    Жыл бұрын

    DX7 sound more "clicky" and dynamic than the DX7 MKII or the DX7 S. Also, the refaceDX looks to sound closer with the DX7 (?)

  • @Timecop1983
    @Timecop19838 жыл бұрын

    Wow, the original dx7 has so much more warmth! For me it's a easy win, especially because the price difference between the reface and the original isn't that big. sometimes you can get a dx7 cheaper than the reface!

  • @Timecop1983

    @Timecop1983

    8 жыл бұрын

    Hey Jake! Cool to see you here! But for now i do everything with Dexed, but if i find a cheap one i will go for that! :)

  • @Biophob

    @Biophob

    8 жыл бұрын

    There is no original DX7 in the video. I'ts DX7IID, it have 16bit DA converters instead of 12bit like in original DX7 or another 1st generation FM synths like DX1, DX5, DX21, DX27 etc.

  • @AName-mg2bd

    @AName-mg2bd

    8 жыл бұрын

    2nd hand, the reface is cheaper than a DX7. Anyway, once you try programming the DX7, you'll see why the reface appeals.

  • @Timecop1983

    @Timecop1983

    8 жыл бұрын

    Yeah i understand, but once you start using the Dexed vst editor it becomes way more interesting after all. Well, to me at least.

  • @AName-mg2bd

    @AName-mg2bd

    8 жыл бұрын

    sure - I appreciate that. I am talking from a perspective of being hardware only. Dexed is great - but I am avoiding VSTs

  • @ElectricCelt56
    @ElectricCelt568 жыл бұрын

    Nice comparison. I programmed the 4 operator TX81Z and the V50 extensively, and the Reface has two major advantages: a dual effects section, and selectable pitch envelope for the 4 operators. There's also a little MIDI phrase sequencer too. It lacks memory (32 patches, including the factory sounds), and it is expensive, but it is fun to program, and the sounds are extraordinary.

  • @davidafterlife
    @davidafterlife9 жыл бұрын

    DX7 has a warmer frequency almost rich analog sound, the Reface has cleaner more EQ'd tone. I love the DX7 because of the richness, but in modern music and production the Reface might be easier to record and produce sounds with minimal EQing. also I didn't really see him move the octaves on the Reface so I don't think it was given a fair chance to hear every sound side by side, although in some instances I did find that some sounds were better. personally I'm a fan on the DX7 for the rich 80's nostalgic sound.

  • @shoesmoothie3533
    @shoesmoothie35337 жыл бұрын

    Both of these synths sound amazing and have a unique flavor that'll suite different people. What I didn't like about this comparison is the volume differences (The brain normally perceives louder as better). The dx7 was definitely a lot louder than the reface.

  • @umrasangus

    @umrasangus

    6 жыл бұрын

    Shoe Smoothie you can change that by connecting the Reface to a Midi interface and using and amplifier plugin on a Daw program. In that way you can make it sound louder and even better you can use more plug-ins to adapt the sound of the Reface to what you want. The Reface never meant to be what the DX7 was, rather a more accesible FM Synth. For example, I like more small synths because I don't play live. If I want an FM Synth I wouldn't go for the "legendary and way better" DX7, I would go for a more accesible instrument. Also, I've found a great trick for those weird touch faders. You can use a Korg Nano Control (or something similar) and connect it with the Reface so you can use the faders of the Nano Control. There's a video about that. Anyways, I hope I could help you

  • @irmao4805

    @irmao4805

    6 жыл бұрын

    CC integration on the dx reface is really a +1 in it's flavor. But I prefer the dx7 sound. I have to make a choice.

  • @Robbinsffxi
    @Robbinsffxi9 жыл бұрын

    I'm amazed how the reface DX can keep up with only 4 operators. It's feedback options makes it very interessting also.

  • @bomlemons
    @bomlemons6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks. I just like theme both. People alway said DX7 has a warmer sound but it doesn't mean warmer is better especially in some situation.

  • @patatructruc3607
    @patatructruc36076 жыл бұрын

    I bought one of the firsts DX7 when it came out and at these times a lot of people said it was a bad instrument compared to analog ones (well... I think a bit the same today!). Anyway, it became a "good old vintage" synth, I think it has its own interesting sound, and I still have one (first issue). You can say new technology can't be compared to ancient one, but talking about "copies" you can see some differences, and most of the time it's desapointing even if the recent technology is easier to use (but you can also edit an old DX with a computer). In this demo some sounds are not programmed (made) the same way on the Reface as on the original DX7, so it's hard to really compare.

  • @karlhaese7183
    @karlhaese71836 жыл бұрын

    I spot a Rhodes in the background;-) Luv the DX7 famous "EP" which sounds equally good on the REFACE!

  • @schepler2
    @schepler29 жыл бұрын

    If the Reface DX were priced at $249 instead of $500, it would be totally worth it -- especially if you don't have any other FM synths in your rig. But at its current price, no way. I mean, for Yamaha to ask that much for each of the Reface models is almost preposterous.

  • @schepler2

    @schepler2

    9 жыл бұрын

    Markus Arike How do I figure? I figure because Yamaha has had this technology available to it since the early '80s. The DX is a 4-operator FM synthesizer with minikeys and built-in speakers. It's essentially a Yamaha PSS-470 from 1987.

  • @GDub83

    @GDub83

    9 жыл бұрын

    schepler2 I would have to agree with OP here. You can buy DX7's for less then the reface DX.

  • @looneyburgmusic

    @looneyburgmusic

    9 жыл бұрын

    Markus Arike Then they should get a TG-77 for $150-$200. These Reface toys are a complete waste of money.

  • @looneyburgmusic

    @looneyburgmusic

    9 жыл бұрын

    Markus Arike "Did anyone ask your opinion here?" - It's a public video, on a public website, I don't need anyone's permission to comment. "You've been going around all the Reface videos, calling them toys." - No, not really, I think I've made all of four or five comments at most, on one or two videos. "Nobody gives a fuck about your trolling bs." - You seem to since you took the time to compose your mature, well thought out reply.

  • @looneyburgmusic

    @looneyburgmusic

    9 жыл бұрын

    Markus Arike "you replied to me, for some inexplicable reason."- You mean the way you replied to schepler2 without him asking *your* opinion? Last checked it's a KZread is a public site. I am thinking it's you who are trolling, and needs to fuck off.

  • @cyberfennek
    @cyberfennek Жыл бұрын

    What an amazing little synth the reface Dx :) you can carry this as a keytar aswell

  • @lrblouie
    @lrblouie3 жыл бұрын

    Very helpful, thank you! The Reface is truly amazing being that it is 4 operator. The DX7's 6 operators do make a difference but I don't remember the 80s 4 op synths being like the Reface, particularly the Electric Piano!!!

  • @tonmaster189

    @tonmaster189

    2 жыл бұрын

    The thing is that 2 additional operator worked in layer way. This means that 4 operator could sound like 6 operator in similar algorithm with bit of resonance. Synths or OPN from 80s doesn't have resonance feature.

  • @RubyInferno

    @RubyInferno

    2 жыл бұрын

    The 4 operators on the Reface DX are all capable of feed-backing to themselves. Out of the 6 operators only one operator can feed-back to itself in the DX7, which means that the Reface is capable of a much more complex sound design. People only look at the specs and take them at face value, missing this critical detail.

  • @milanveles6820
    @milanveles68209 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for comparison and also other your good videos, but totally I agree with the views below.

  • @F0nkyNinja
    @F0nkyNinja8 жыл бұрын

    Am I the only one who likes the reface DX? I think it sounds great. It does the aggressive thing better than the DX7 for sure, since you get 4 feedbacks instead of 1, but it does the mellow thing really very good indeed, and with only 4 ops instead of 6. The pitch stick is one of the best I've ever used and you've got to remember the DX7 cost $2 000 back in 1983. Adjusing for inflation that would be $4 800 in todays money. The DX7 has no effects unlike the reface with 2x7 effects. Built-in speakers and a smaller footprint means that you can take it literally anywhere and program sounds and come up with ideas on the fly. Take it to the picnic or the office, play during lunch breaks... And the Soundmondo web-midi means you get a nearly endless supply of new sounds, and you can share your own if you like. Need the mallet sound for Toto's africa? No prob. Michael Jackson bass? No prob. It doesn't have a mod wheel or expression pedal input, sure. But it DOES recieve modulation wheel and expression data over MIDI (CC# 1, 7, 11). The on-the-fly timbre change with feedback on ALL 4 operators (only 1 on the DX7) is UNIQUE to this instrument. Add to that the ability to change the level and frequency of the operators using the same method and you get some great controls over the sound for live performances. Try to see some of its STRENGTHS, not just the drawbacks. I really urge you all to try one out yourselves for at least an hour. It sounds really fresh, new and modern. The DX7 is a bit dark and stuck in the 80's, whereas the Reface does both eras good. But everybody is of course entitled to their own opinion. Also, have you ever heard the factory presets on the DX7? This is leagues upon leagues better, I think the reface is capable of a much wider sonic pallette than the dark/super-bright nasal quality of a lot of DX7 sounds. Also the instrument in this video is a DX7-IID which is Bi-Timbral. Not a fair comparison at all... That piano sound probably uses 12 operators.

  • @littlesnowflakepunk855

    @littlesnowflakepunk855

    5 жыл бұрын

    The original Dx7 is actually being sold for less than the Reface nowadays. Reverb has the original Dx7 at $250 and the Reface DX at $400. For that price I’m going for the Dx7.

  • @mgabrysSF
    @mgabrysSF4 жыл бұрын

    2:48 made my eyebrows leap off my forehead. The Reface with filters is very nice! I'm also a fan of these mini-keyboards in general because I'm more interested in a number of MIDI controllers which provide more options for range, key-weight and features vs being locked-in to one style by the manufacturer - while still having something that's playable on the go vs a boutique module with no keys. Plus the DX and CS provide a nice range of digital and analog sounds for a nice low price-point, with massive space savings. I drool at the people on youtube that have a wall of keyboards in their home-studio, but I just don't have the space!

  • @instrumentenfreak
    @instrumentenfreak7 жыл бұрын

    What I like on the reface is its size. I put some batteries in and can play it while its on the back of my guitar.

  • @matiasgrimoure4533
    @matiasgrimoure45336 жыл бұрын

    If im not in mistake the reface is a 4 operators and 8 algorithms synth versus the 6 op and 32 algorithms of the DX7. From another sight the reface has an integrated fx module

  • @adventureface666
    @adventureface6668 жыл бұрын

    There is definitely some discrepancies in the recordingwith what @saftpackerl was saying, but I think the ease of programming on the Reface vs programming on the DX7 is also a big thing not being addressed here. This wasn't designed to "replace" the DX7 it's a totally different synth. Being able to sit and control the individual operators on the fly the Reface is really appealing. Granted there are ways of altering DX7 patches with an iPad and a bunch of crazy 3rd party software, but that adds a cost of an iPad to the mix. There is just a lot more tactility to the reface that makes it more "fun" and a lot less of an everest to climb in order to get your own sounds.

  • @rm2kmidi

    @rm2kmidi

    3 жыл бұрын

    There's definitely a learning curve with learning to program the DX7. But most of that is learning FM Synthesis itself. You don't need software to program the DX7, once you get the hang of it, the front panel is easier than any software out there.

  • @KeltonWagley
    @KeltonWagley6 жыл бұрын

    0:51 How do you create that vocal sounding patch with FM synthesis?

  • @mumulove
    @mumulove7 жыл бұрын

    Yamaha has always made an amazing sound.

  • @SP330Y
    @SP330Y8 жыл бұрын

    The original DX7 wins for me,it has more warmth and bigger sound. Even with my eyes closed the DX7 still wins. Once in a while a company makes a product thats very hard to beat,even with modern technology and i think this is a case of that

  • @SPAZZOID100

    @SPAZZOID100

    7 жыл бұрын

    SP330Y dx7 has 6 op. The reface has 4 op.

  • @SP330Y

    @SP330Y

    7 жыл бұрын

    James Reeno what is op?

  • @theycallmejpj

    @theycallmejpj

    6 жыл бұрын

    nobody said otherwise

  • @ThePrinceChet
    @ThePrinceChet7 жыл бұрын

    I like how you compared the EPs mostly because that's what I came here for aha

  • @PureAmbientDrone
    @PureAmbientDrone7 жыл бұрын

    The lower registers are where the DX7 shines so beautiful. :)

  • @timothybias462
    @timothybias4628 жыл бұрын

    You would have to layer the DX Reface by having maybe two of them to get the warm of the dx7 or get an Eventide H9 and use so if their modulators and filter the sound to until becomes more warm.

  • @yoerileeflang3002
    @yoerileeflang30024 жыл бұрын

    Wait, are these the original patches that come with the DX7II?? Where can I download them? Mine are quite different en I like these waaaaaaaay better!

  • @Korgi_Polymer
    @Korgi_Polymer7 жыл бұрын

    Is there a DX7 equivalent of the Dynalead patch from the DX Reface?

  • @MPHORROCKS
    @MPHORROCKS4 жыл бұрын

    The greater detail and richness in the original DX timbres is quite evident IMHO.

  • @cuttingedge1987
    @cuttingedge19874 жыл бұрын

    I think we just need All to stop comparing and make love...but more seriously I have a dx7 mk1 and I think the reface is a awesome piece of equipment to travel with especially for the price. I own a reface cs and also have a AN1x which is also a Va. but the CS can go to other places the AN1x can’t go and vice versa...I think it works the same for the dx7 and the reface Dx...you can’t go wrong choosing a dx7 and you can’t go wrong choosing a reface Dx...I actually wanted to get one just for the fun...

  • @ageshero
    @ageshero Жыл бұрын

    The dx7 ii key feel is absolutely amazing

  • @kenorr8721
    @kenorr87218 жыл бұрын

    I'd say they both sound absolutely great, but the DX7 has that distinct FM sound.

  • @josephwright5921

    @josephwright5921

    2 жыл бұрын

    I would say the Reface is “distinctly” FM as well, with slightly different EQ.

  • @Irapotato
    @Irapotato8 жыл бұрын

    Here's my solution, as someone who loves the DX-7. Buy an original one on craigslist, but torrent / buy FM8 and run a bunch of DX-7 Patches with your computer first. I have an MS-20 mini, which i like because it's 1) cheaper than an old ms-20 and 2) it sounds very similar if not idential to the original. I love the form and idea of the reface keyboards, and the looping / effects are great for musicians without a ton of gear / software, but you can get an original DX-7 with 2 more modulation points and a full size synth keyboard for about $300 easily on CL/ebay.

  • @SPAZZOID100

    @SPAZZOID100

    8 жыл бұрын

    Reface is much easier to program.

  • @neonpop80
    @neonpop802 жыл бұрын

    Unfair comparison, they’re both DXs but not the same. I love my Reface and concede to the gorgeous sounds of the DX7. But I love my user friendly and very mobile Reface. For the price I got it for it was very worth it.

  • @ohmslawmusic
    @ohmslawmusic7 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the video. That's a DX7 mkii you're using. I'd be curious how an original DX7 would compare. Guessing the reface is trying to emulate the original?

  • @cuttingedge1987
    @cuttingedge19873 жыл бұрын

    Well I have an original dx7 but I would love to try one of these...even tho I already have a reface cs and they share the same ship as dx

  • @MysticGargoyle
    @MysticGargoyle6 жыл бұрын

    This is a great product to a very nice price

  • @synesthetica
    @synesthetica9 жыл бұрын

    The comparison is not fair as the patches are clearly different. I'm a great fan of DX7, but I think the Reface DX is a good synth in its own right, having feedback on all operators and additional waveforms. It is much more modern, cleaner sounding and this is useful, too. It doesn't have the weight and as much acoustic, 3D character as DX7 does, though. It won't replace my DX7, ever, but it might be a cool portable alternative for live use.

  • @synesthetica

    @synesthetica

    9 жыл бұрын

    Rok Koritnik I do wish Yamaha would make that great looking 3 octave DX10, proposed by one guy. That would be the ultimate modern, portable DX.

  • @chupathingy5862
    @chupathingy58623 жыл бұрын

    It's kinda sad when the demo guy's random noodling is better than the sum of my entire musical career

  • @Korgi_Polymer
    @Korgi_Polymer8 жыл бұрын

    I think an external chorus box would greatly aid the Reface FM Piano, when its internal effects are disabled.

  • @josephwright5921

    @josephwright5921

    2 жыл бұрын

    I suggest the Keeley Dyno My Roto for a fantastic that can go thick and syrupy, a very realistic rotary speaker, and great flanger that can do whooshy or even pukey sounds.

  • @kennethteo7974
    @kennethteo79749 жыл бұрын

    Both are nice. But DX7 sounds warmer and deeper.

  • @goddem123
    @goddem1239 жыл бұрын

    I feel DX sounds greater than reface...

  • @scottcupp8129

    @scottcupp8129

    3 жыл бұрын

    I would have to agree. I bought an original DX7 on eBay last week and it arrived on Friday :)

  • @Tubbs777

    @Tubbs777

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@scottcupp8129 lucky you, im still hunting for it at a reasonable price :(

  • @yard_work

    @yard_work

    2 жыл бұрын

    No question

  • @jonathanarleys

    @jonathanarleys

    2 жыл бұрын

    For who never playing original DX, reface DX and PSR S series become good for me... I wanted this reface DX so bad... Hoping can purchasing this model one day... PSR S have ridicolous for me... 😢

  • @hockeyexpress7808
    @hockeyexpress78085 жыл бұрын

    Everyone talks crap about the reface. I use it for shows and it’s just what I need with my Korg Krome. Sound great for a little key

  • @osfari
    @osfari8 жыл бұрын

    I think the sound of the DX7 is much more powerful for both Dynamics for the Sounds . Even the nuance of the sound is richer and more expressive , and I do not think it is due to the overall volume incision but just the quality of the sound generation as well as to the internal components of the audio outputs of the same .

  • @jpsynth1411
    @jpsynth14114 жыл бұрын

    The EP sounds better on the DX7, but the reface I’d much easier and fun to program. So, unless you’re into Whitney Houston covers, the reface is a better option. It can sound warm and analog if you program it to do so. As for the older DXs, my favorite is the 11.

  • @Seany06
    @Seany068 жыл бұрын

    Argh why didnt I see this before! Just bought the Reface, couldn't resist(Katsunori from musictrack really sold me on it!), don't really regret it though the DX7 does have that thick rubbery sounding low end and the Reface attempts at the Classic sounds sound like attempts, perhaps the lack of operators ofcourse. I still think it's a cool little synth though with advantages of it's own in other ways, like being highly portable and possible keytar expansion? Price is a bit steep yeah but I just imagine to myself I lost 280 quidlol

  • @EpicSpeedademon
    @EpicSpeedademon6 жыл бұрын

    Not a good comparison when two instruments were recorded in different volume. Reface is modern, clear, cold while original sounds warm, dull. Unless you are exactly trying to replicate 80's, reface could be a good option.

  • @jarrod9052
    @jarrod90525 жыл бұрын

    Dx7 just has more character in the sound.i know the reface is fairly easy to edit the sounds as I played with it at the local music store. I’ve never tried editing on the Dx7 which I hear is a pain in the ass . I’m bit lost on which one to purchase,

  • @ridikuluztie5605
    @ridikuluztie56053 жыл бұрын

    I like the classic EP better on the original DX7. I feel like the attack is more clicky in a good way.

  • @markpettigrew3482
    @markpettigrew34827 жыл бұрын

    The pitch bend and mod wheels on the original DX7 were a lot more ergonomic, and the keys were full-size. To get those benefits with the Reface version, one would have to buy a separate MIDI controller keyboard.

  • @SPAZZOID100

    @SPAZZOID100

    7 жыл бұрын

    Mark Pettigrew the programming interface on the reface is the BEST on any FM synth ever made.

  • @foxiepaws
    @foxiepaws4 жыл бұрын

    the reface really sounds mostly like my FB01 tbh.

  • @gidjeat
    @gidjeat8 жыл бұрын

    The DX7 sounds like it has a wet rag over the speakers. The Reface sounds way more hifi.

  • @thestatpow5

    @thestatpow5

    5 жыл бұрын

    I'd put a wet rag over my speakers anytime.

  • @exiles_dot_tv

    @exiles_dot_tv

    5 жыл бұрын

    The DX7 definitely sounds like it has a lot more low end going on, that may be tricking your ears a bit as the Reface seems to be more prominent in the higher end frequencies, but also much thinner sounding as a result.

  • @noisynois1670

    @noisynois1670

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@exiles_dot_tv el original suena mucho mas fuerte de volumen,no se puede juzgar asi

  • @sammytimgaming2947

    @sammytimgaming2947

    3 жыл бұрын

    Then to recreate the original dx7 just put wet rags over the speakers.

  • @scottcupp8129

    @scottcupp8129

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sammytimgaming2947 And I will stick to my original DX7. I'd take wet rags any day

  • @dxtrs_mnpltr
    @dxtrs_mnpltr9 жыл бұрын

    4.17min Rhythm on the loose- break of dawn :-) Bring back the real sound yamaha (with a sequencer) lol

  • @markusande1
    @markusande18 жыл бұрын

    Tried it today and liked it vääääääry much, wonderfull to edit! Sounds cleaner than the dx100, less like a toy also. Even though i like the crunchy sound of dx100.. Have to buy this one. Anyone know if it's a lot of work installing a modwheel? Hehe : D feels like it would be...

  • @KUPHSER
    @KUPHSER8 жыл бұрын

    This serves as a reminder for you to go out and get a working dx7ii while its not so hard or expensive. The dx7 is a diamond and you're crazy if you dont have one in the studio, its the true yamaha fm sound, and its cheap!

  • @TecladistadoYoutubeRivaLima
    @TecladistadoYoutubeRivaLima9 жыл бұрын

    What's the use of the lower body, the soul is not the same ? The components not evolved to the point of doing the same and with the same sound quality that was done before? Evolve to regress? The old Dx7 is the awesome yet, after 30 years!

  • @dennisristow2102
    @dennisristow21026 жыл бұрын

    I wouldn't compare it to a DX 7 as the 6 operators have more combos different capabilities. Compare it to a DX 9,21,27 or 100 with 4 operators and I think the Reface exceeds their sound palette by having feedback on each operator. Reface sounds like an FM synth and capable of some incredible sounds on it's own. The Reface only has 8 voice polyphony, and I wish it had at 16, but compared to the original Roland Boutiques with only 4 voices, it's better for full chords at least.

  • @doronharati4675
    @doronharati46758 жыл бұрын

    "My little pony" and "1001 america's" 80's themes in slow tempo!

  • @uquw394u8
    @uquw394u88 жыл бұрын

    The reface version has a strength with mobility. We must consider that.

  • @SPAZZOID100

    @SPAZZOID100

    7 жыл бұрын

    AND and INTERFACE.

  • @riccardoaltamura4415
    @riccardoaltamura44158 жыл бұрын

    The reface DX has 4 operators, while the dx7 has 6, it would be more correct to compare the reface DX with the DX-21. Still great video!!

  • @mgabrysSF

    @mgabrysSF

    4 жыл бұрын

    Pretty much although the DX-21 had 8 algorithms while this has 12. So it's a little fuller. And with extra effects I'm getting bi-timberal sounds - although I could be wrong.

  • @Escuchalabrisa
    @Escuchalabrisa6 жыл бұрын

    The sound of the reface is really fantastic. In the recording it has less volume and has a little less harmonics, I imagine by the lack of those two operators, I do not know, but with the effects it is much improved. With the reface dx you can edit the sound more easy even at real time with the dx7 is not possible. -The reface has include effects, dx7 no-. Are diferents keyboards style; portability and fun vs more voices and complete keyboard. I think that in this video the audio capture of the reface is not at the same level as the dx7. To be more exacts, It should have been compared to a four-operator fm synth not with the dx7.

  • @phranquepeasant5688
    @phranquepeasant56885 жыл бұрын

    If you're not satisfied with the editability of the reface, maybe you should try the new Dtronics controller, DT-RDX. And if you're not satisfied with the sound of the reface, then head over to eBay and get an original DX or TX. I've got the DX200 and it sounds like a blast. And my TG77 is an ambient and tines beast for real.

  • @NatLifeSounds
    @NatLifeSounds8 жыл бұрын

    Who have a ears will hear that Reface have a more stereo panoramic and clear sound, but in same time seems like DX7 a bit warmer.

  • @sliccricc1654
    @sliccricc16545 жыл бұрын

    I've bought a dx7 for cheaper than my old reface, I miss him

  • @AGoNYC
    @AGoNYC9 жыл бұрын

    even through my laptop i can hear that the DX7 is fuller and has more depth to its sounds while the reface comes of as tinny

  • @scottcupp8129

    @scottcupp8129

    3 жыл бұрын

    The DX reface has only 4 operators whereas the DX7 has 6. The DX7 also has twice the number of Algorithms.

  • @jumpmanhat
    @jumpmanhat9 жыл бұрын

    Lol sounds like most comments are hating for the sake of hating the new overpriced product. The comparison shows that the reface sounds clearer, punchier, more detailed and pronounced. The dx7 sounds looser, darker and lo-fi. I'd hesitate that one sounds better than the other objectively, just different.

  • @djilyaz
    @djilyaz8 жыл бұрын

    DX should be compared to dx100, not dx7. It is a fun keyboard in its own right, I messed with it in store and wouldn't mind having one, but at $500 it's too much for what you get.

  • @savanaviolenta
    @savanaviolenta5 жыл бұрын

    the el.pianos sound much better ,fuller and warmer on the DX,on DX7 they sound sterile and 8 bit like(I know its 12bit dac ,but you got my point,just sounds grainy)

  • @dannywhittle4245
    @dannywhittle42456 жыл бұрын

    Dexed is a free DX 7 vst and it's amazing. Well worth a look and very easy to use millions of free downloadable patches too. Just KZread Dexed vst by woody he has done a really good tutorial on how to set it up, all you need is a midi controller keyboard and your away 😎

  • @RevellingTerror
    @RevellingTerror7 жыл бұрын

    Another interesting video would be to download the DX7's sysex file with these patches and load them into a Korg Kronos for direct comparison!

  • @camlong89
    @camlong894 жыл бұрын

    The DX7 sounds better in most sounds, but the Reface is a lot more fun to program, plus it has built in effects. Both are good. The DX7 fanboys commenting here are ridiculous. No one ever said the reface is better than the DX7. Calm down.

  • @dikochi690311
    @dikochi6903118 жыл бұрын

    もしオリジナルDXにGS1並のコーラスと空間系エフェクトが搭載されていたらすごいことになっている。特にここの比較対象はDX7-IIであるからその能力を最大限引き出している音ではない。単純に比較はできない。

  • @jairkerker2821
    @jairkerker28213 жыл бұрын

    Please note that this guy is not playing the DX7, but the DX7 IID. The IID is an improved version of the DX7 which is said to make a more clear/less noisy sound.

  • @jairkerker2821

    @jairkerker2821

    3 жыл бұрын

    Where are my manners: Thank you for this comparison video! It helped me deciding to persue a real DX7, although I'm pleased with my Reface DX.

  • @LF0
    @LF08 жыл бұрын

    I've owned a dx7II and just got done messing with a DX. I was really really impressed with the DX, it sounded fantastic, this video does it no justice. Beyond that it looks and feels perfect and is easier to use, I'm very tempted to buy one, but yeah, will wait until the price goes down.

  • @nym053
    @nym0537 жыл бұрын

    Notice that in this example it ain't even about analog vs. digital recreation and the original still sounds warmer, rounder and fuller (I listened from my smartphone speakers). So what is it actually about when it comes to not as good new recreations of old classics?

  • @stevezeno
    @stevezeno5 ай бұрын

    This is very close especially considering one is played on full size keys and the other on mini keys. Also consider how diffixult it would be to play the same passages with the exact same nuance.

  • @zom7022
    @zom70229 жыл бұрын

    nice, lools like my dx100

  • @iminasamscar9432
    @iminasamscar94326 жыл бұрын

    2:33 patch is all you need to know about how different these are

  • @Crackykun
    @Crackykun9 жыл бұрын

    DX7 sounds a lot better, considering I can hear the difference through my laptop speakers says a lot. I'm a lot more impressed by the Roland System 1, which actually comes pretty near an actual SH-101.

  • @juliamcgreechin3892

    @juliamcgreechin3892

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Crackykun haa, that last bit, no it doesn't x

  • @matthewgaines10
    @matthewgaines103 жыл бұрын

    The reface DX doesn't quite match up to the DX7 across the board. Besides the volume levels sounding different, I wonder if everything else is set the same. Preset vs preset.

  • @rolandogomez6874
    @rolandogomez68742 жыл бұрын

    Hi friend, I need your help with my Yamaha DX-11 because loss sounds when i changed 3V battery. How can get again its original or another funcionality sound? Soy Rolando de República Dominicana. Puede ayudarme con esto por favor?

  • @CRITTERBUSTERS
    @CRITTERBUSTERS8 жыл бұрын

    What Yamaha needs to do is release a full size DX reface with 6 operators and then maybe I'll buy one, but for now the DX7II looks like a better option.

  • @JCGascon001
    @JCGascon0013 жыл бұрын

    7, different recording volume but theres much more to listen on the DX7

  • @jacquesmertens3369
    @jacquesmertens33698 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for posting. I nearly forgot how good the DX7 was. Hey Yamaha, what have you been doing for the past 30 years? Going backwards.

  • @SPAZZOID100

    @SPAZZOID100

    8 жыл бұрын

    DX7 had a crappy interface. +KUPHSER the reface has a better interface!!!

  • @powerdx7383

    @powerdx7383

    8 жыл бұрын

    I agree, the original DX7 are one of the best 'pure' synths of all time. I have the DX7 MK1, and it can produce amazing analog-like fat sounds as well as breathtaking strings, brass etc. Long live the DX7!

  • @SPAZZOID100

    @SPAZZOID100

    7 жыл бұрын

    Power DX7 i think VA or analog is better for analog sounds.

  • @lawabidingcitizen5153

    @lawabidingcitizen5153

    4 жыл бұрын

    The reface dx isn't really meant as a reissue of the DX7, more like of a DX100 or DX27 because it only has 4 operators, but with added functionality and improved interface

  • @t.n.3819
    @t.n.38195 жыл бұрын

    I think they're both fantastic synths. Of course a 1:1 comparison of a modern 4OP to a vintage 6OP with 80s DACs isn't gonna give identical results. It's almost pointless to compare them like that, and even more pointless for all the people who came here to say which one sounds "better". It's impossible to get them to do the same thing. You can't even load DX7 presets on the Reface DX, which is funny because even Korg managed to pull that off with the Volca FM...oh, Yamaha. I prefer the smaller form-factor, mini-keys (I'm weird), easier editing, beautiful OLED display, and feedback per voice of the Reface DX. I also think it has a more "crystalline" quality to its sound that makes it better for shimmering pads. But don't get me wrong, the DX7 is a classic for a reason: it's an absolute monster. It definitely has more of a low end, and the subtle grittiness is a nice touch. But I think we'd all agree that it'd be sick if Yamaha released a 6 OP Reface DX II... preferably with a more competitive launch price than this first series. Whoever was in charge of their marketing must not have been paying attention to how cheap Roland and Korg (and now Behringer) have gotten lately.

  • @joeschneider67
    @joeschneider676 жыл бұрын

    Both can be program the same way...remember both had the same 6 operators and algorithms.

  • @JudeJaded15
    @JudeJaded158 жыл бұрын

    The new mini key series is great. Yamaha has a very strong and vocal 'haters club'.

  • @bakolakoz
    @bakolakoz9 жыл бұрын

    I totally agree

  • @GavinMcCloy

    @GavinMcCloy

    8 жыл бұрын

    I guess they are light and portable, but not actually tried one before, I hate heavy keyboards lol

  • @SPAZZOID100
    @SPAZZOID1008 жыл бұрын

    Comparing different patches??

  • @worriershadow9268
    @worriershadow92685 жыл бұрын

    What song is that on 1:06

  • @stevenuttley
    @stevenuttley3 жыл бұрын

    Isn't the Reface basically a 4 octave remake of the DX100 rather than the DX7?

  • @jimmajam305
    @jimmajam3058 жыл бұрын

    What is the song he plays at 3:15?

  • @rogerfelez7478
    @rogerfelez74785 жыл бұрын

    It is kinda unfair comparing the 6-operator DX7 against the 4-operator Reface. It should have been compared with a DX21/11/27/9 or a TX81z

  • @laisonvoirsa4709
    @laisonvoirsa47097 жыл бұрын

    Bonjour, peut-on télécharger des set, des sons dans ce keyboard ?

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