why oh why did they think toy piano would bolster the sales of this beauty more than that amazingly natural piano is beyond me.

@OttosTheName

4 жыл бұрын

I think it's not about bolstering the sales. I bet they think if this thing has great Rhodes, Clavi, Wurly ánd good Piano sounds people might not buy their digital piano's.

@BearKeys

2 жыл бұрын

I would have "hid" the toy piano and kept the acoustic in the easily accessible line up. But for the time being, this mod is pretty cool.

@votouragile9190

2 жыл бұрын

@@BearKeys +1

@Q-BOT

2 жыл бұрын

I think in the Japanese market, it was a hit.

@greendrinkguy1882

Жыл бұрын

because then they wouldn't be able to sell you a separate "acoustic" sounding piano.. but now that the cat is out of the bag and everyone is using the acoustic sound anyway.. **ATTENTION YAMAHA**.. I would pay extra for a "Deluxe" version of the CP that (is EXACTLY the same, but) does not have the acoustic piano hidden. Just tweak the knob (+give it a designated acoustic slot) +we will pay EXTRA for it. Come on Yamaha, U could sell a bunch more of these really quick with this idea..

Oo man, the riffs you play are classics

Can you Rewiring and replace the toy piano?? if so , it'll be amazing!!

Great! I'd happily drop that toy piano sound for the grand piano! You website is offline, I'd love to see the PDFs bitte! :D

@cyrildia

3 жыл бұрын

My bad it's not offline, it just doesn't support HTTPS! Thanks for sharing, I'll try that ASAP! Vielen Dank!

@303otto

3 жыл бұрын

also ich hab einfach den Lötzinnpunkt vom Wahlschalter-Pin vom Toy-Piano (Pin 6 vom SW100 (TYPE) lt. Schaltplan 1:42 ) mit einer Entlötpumpe entfernt (vorher mit dem Lötkolben erhitzen versteht sich) Der Pin ist dann nicht mehr mit dem PCB verbunden und dadurch brauch ich nur das Toy-Piano mit dem Wahlschalter auswählen und einen Powercycle durchführen und ich hab das Grand-Piano (leider ohne LED) aber diese Mod ist total easy durchzuführen = einfach das lötzinn entfernen und dadurch den Kontakt unterbrechen 😋

@PaulaBean

Жыл бұрын

@@303otto The mod you describe is simpler, but you will lose one of the original sounds. Personally, I am more than happy to sacrifice the Toy Piano.

a mod to replace the toy with the grand would be nice. could it be done with software ?

Hello Helfried, thanks for the sharing (I do not own any CP reface). If we consider DD[0]..DD[5] as binary, if you put simultaneously one or more DD[.] together, is there other hidden sounds ?

So the piano gets selected if powered on while none of the lines DD[0...5] are connected to S[0]. In other words, when all data lines are low. Did you test what happens if all lines DD[0...5] get disconnected from s[0] while the Reface is already on? Also what happens if more than one of the DD[0...5] lines get connected to S[0] at the same time? I mean while the unit is already on, no power cycling. And yes that's almost 60 new combinations to test. I don't have a CP so can't try this myself, but this should be relatively save to try. S[0] is a strobe line that pulls the connected data line high when the position of the rotary switch is read. Worst case, a unexpected binary value on the data lines DD[0...6] might make the CP go gaga, but permanent damage is unlikely. Best case, access to 1 or more hidden sounds.

It's unfortunate no one seems to have figured out how to do this mod without a power cycle.

@helfriedwildenhain1709

2 жыл бұрын

that's just not possible. Yamaha would have to change the firmware for this.

I noticed that, at the bottom of the octave shift slider, your piano says "GRND", whereas all the other's that I've seen just have dashes. It seems that with your keyboard, you turn the instrument selector to RD1 and have the octave slider all the way down - and then power it on to get the Grand Piano sound. Other KZread vids say to put the instrument selector control between RD1 and RD2, then power up the keyboard. Why is yours different? Just curious.

@helfriedwildenhain1709

2 жыл бұрын

the best will be if you read through the detailed documentation - see the links above in the instructions - incl. a *.pdf of the circuit diagram. And ignore that I once switched the octave switch to the lowest position in the video ... that was nonsense at that point :-) My modification simply causes the acoustic piano to sound when the CP is switched on in position RD1. This replaces the previous procedure with the unstable intermediate position of the switch.

This harmonized Lick sounds better than the original.

@PedroPetracco

3 жыл бұрын

It's the Adam Neely intro, innit?

@hermask815

3 жыл бұрын

Pedro Petracco +1

@SaxInstructor

Жыл бұрын

@@PedroPetraccothis lick is just obvious jazz lick that was used hundreds times of jazz musicians

xcellent, thank you!

Just Ive seen in some sample demo they put the knob settings in between then they turn it on to produce piano sound, so if the knob is in between so no connection at all in the circuit board..what if you cut the connection of the toy piano .. so once its switch there no connection. so turn it on.. may be will work .. I havent tried it yet because I dont have CP yet.. this is only my opinion theoretically.

@helfriedwildenhain1709

3 жыл бұрын

Sure - that would work of course, but then you have a dead spot in the switch that can only be used to switch on if you want the acoustic piano sound. And you lose the sensational, unique toy piano .. ;-)

@JoernR

2 жыл бұрын

@@helfriedwildenhain1709 - Das bombastisch wichtige Spieluhrding gegen eine reine Einschaltposition fürs akustische Piano zu ersetzen, scheint mir die einzig wahre Anwendung für diese Schalterposition zu sein. ;)

@thesullivanmusic

Жыл бұрын

this is a great idea. most ppl will turn on the toy piano, go 'huh,' and never play the sound again. if this works it turns that switch position into something useful.

Can someone please help me, as i want to do this trick, the types light blink one time and then turned off. I think i broke mine?

Cool👏🏻👍

🤠✌🏻CLASSIC!!!!!!!!!!🤠✌🏻

brilliant, thank you x

Another idea is if only someone could create (or find) a MIDI phone-"app" that would STORE the secret piano sound on an attached phone.. (so that u don't have to monkey around with balancing the knob in that precarious position +turning the keyboard on+off in the middle of a set when it's hooked up to a P.A.) Unfortunately the Yamaha "Soundmondo" app doesn't work for this... it saves the other sounds on an attached phone, but doesn't save the hidden acoustic.

Yaeh❤❤

Hi, does reface work from USB power, without using batteries, without using the power supply, just USB connection from the computer?

@lumer2b

3 жыл бұрын

No

@PaulaBean

Жыл бұрын

But you can use a 5V power bank and a 5V->9V converter, and plug it into the power port. Use the correct polarity.

How difficult would this be to do for someone who doesn't know anything about wiring or electronics?

@helfriedwildenhain1709

5 жыл бұрын

honestly a bit too difficult, you should have experience in soldering

Is there a way to modified the aux in so the sound goes through the FX?

@helfriedwildenhain1709

7 ай бұрын

No, as far as I know and understand the circuit of the Reface-CP, this is not possible. Unfortunately.

Nice!

I would like to have you modify a CP for me.. How much would U charge to do that again on another one?

@helfriedwildenhain1709

3 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry, I don't have the time or the desire to build it again as a paid job - it was a fun project at the time and I just published it here for interested hobbyists. It's not that complicated, an experienced amateur electronics technician who can solder will be able to recreate it. Unfortunately, that's probably not the answer you wanted to hear..I hope you can find someone to help you.

@greendrinkguy1882

Жыл бұрын

@@helfriedwildenhain1709 OK well if anyone reading this is an "experienced amateur electronics technician.." I will pay shipping both ways in addition to paying YOU to re-create this on two Yamaha CP's.. just reply here +it will probably get my attention. THANKS!

what is the first song you played

@helfriedwildenhain1709

2 жыл бұрын

Mozart - Piano Concerto KV 488, the beginning of the second movement - one of my favorite songs :-)

DOOOPE

Snoop Dogg feat. The Doors - Riders on the Storm 1:08

Any way to choose acoustic piano sending midi msg?

@helfriedwildenhain1709

2 жыл бұрын

not that I would know - but I doubt that it is even possible

@raulgama

2 жыл бұрын

@@helfriedwildenhain1709 developers should can do it

@PaulaBean

Жыл бұрын

@@raulgama Except if it's not supported in the firmware.

@user-mg7vs2bb2l

5 ай бұрын

what connect between midi messaage sending and sound choise?

Hi, i like the riffs you played but do'nt t recall all the tittles and artists... can you help ? - Rhodes II = Billy Joel - Just the way you are - Wurlitzer = ? - ? - Clavinet = Lionel Ritchie? - ? - CP70 = Abba - ? - Rhodes I = The Doors - Riders on the storm

@helfriedwildenhain1709

4 жыл бұрын

Wurlitzer = Supertramp - Logical Song Clavinet = Stevie Wonder - Superstition CP70 = Abba - SOS Toy Piano = Pomplamoose - Angry Birds Theme 😀 Piano = Mozart KV488 2.mvt

@deauvillevrienden

4 жыл бұрын

@@helfriedwildenhain1709 Thanks :-))

@debhaax

3 жыл бұрын

@@helfriedwildenhain1709 Yes and thanks for the close-up on your fingering for these riffs. Easy to follow so I can play them now. JUST GOT MINE TODAY, I’M IN CREATIVE HEAVEN! Thanks for your video.

I would've wired the real piano to the toy piano (which is IMHO unusable).

@helfriedwildenhain1709

2 жыл бұрын

unfortunately this isn't possible in an elegant, switchable way either - but of course you can just cut the connection of the switch at the Toy Piano position. But even then, the switch must be in this position when you turn on the keyboard if you want the Grand - and when you change the sound, the Grand Piano disappears again until the next restart. Of course, this solution is easier to implement than my project. But you lose one available sound - even if it's just the toy piano ;-) I just wanted to keep all the functionality and still have easy access to the grand piano - that's why I chose this complex method.

How did you do the modification to get the grand piano.

@helfriedwildenhain1709

2 жыл бұрын

take a look at the video-description above - my detailed explanation of the modification is linked there.

@helfriedwildenhain1709

2 жыл бұрын

look here (in english) translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sequencer.de%2Fsynthesizer%2Fthreads%2Fyamaha-reface-cp-modifikation-fuer-einfacheren-zugriff-auf-den-akustischen-piano-sound.148934%2F

The Lick, nice!