Owner of both. They are no brainers for a first bike or anyone that loves riding small fast. My thoughts. The cb300r gets way more compliments as far as looks...I have the blue and black 2020. It is a beautiful motorcycle. The mt03 has a higher top speed by about 15mph in my experience, however, I live in the mountains, the single thumper in the cb300r pulls up hill with more conviction and it has better cornering. The seating is similar, but the mt03 is a bit less cramped and more comfortable. Both get great gas mileage. I choose to ride the cb300r 70% of the time. The breaking is adequate at best on both, though again the engine breaking on the cb300r is incredible and takes sometime to get use to. Lighting is great on both. 1st gear on the cb300r is shorter which can be a bit weird when stop and go is followed immediately by a acriss traffic left turn. Any questions I'll answer, but these bikes are the best beginner nakeds going. Duke fans shut up the orange bike is too fucking to ugly for anyone with any self respect to be seen on.

@grumpysquid

4 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU! Been waiting for someone to give this insight. Can’t make up my mind. So you are not saying the MT has inferior brakes, right? Do you find the CB300R more “exhilarating riding experience” overall? If i can only have one of these for my bike for 5-10 years, which should I choose?

@grumpysquid

4 жыл бұрын

Which shifter is smoother/positive engagement?

@grumpysquid

4 жыл бұрын

Another question: are the MT’s controls really small and annoying?

@whipstitchwebwork1383

4 жыл бұрын

@@grumpysquid They are both great. I believe the cb300r is a better ride. It pulls up hill effortlessly, starts faster from a stop, and does have better front breaks. They are both kind of wooden break feeling, but it's just a feeling they both stop fine. So, it could come down to style. Everyone loves the retro round lights on the cb300r...that neo retro style. Again, both great bikes. Push came to shove. I'd give my mt03 away before I'd sell my cb300r.

@whipstitchwebwork1383

4 жыл бұрын

@@grumpysquid both Honda and Yammie's are brilliantly built bikes. The build quality is legendary. Easily the best 2 companies on earth. So, both are very smooth and extremely forgiving. You can't break em while learning that's for sure. I would say the Yamaha is a tad smoother. Not much though.

Hats off to you for not once calling these ‘beginner’ bikes like most other reviewers do. I have been riding for twenty years and have had every size of bike, and I’ve just bought a cb300R not because it’s a beginner bike, but because it’s just a plain and simple great bike. Calling it a ‘beginner’ bike puts it off most seasoned riders wish lists because it’s somehow a demeaning term. A shame, because as I said it’s just a great bike with all the power you’d ever need for everyday riding. So, this review is right at the top of the many I’ve seen over the last few years. Thanks for not patronising your biker brothers. I subscribe on this basis.

@TheOverlordOfProcrastination

2 жыл бұрын

@@fftheblueskys absolutely. It’s like many think that the more experienced you are, the bigger or faster the bike you should get. Absolute nonsense. I’ve had as much fun on the 300 as I ever had on my 1000cc bikes. If I was doing a very long ride then maybe I’d miss my old big bikes, but this is still capable as long as you take a few more breaks.

I'm 5' 9" tall with a 32" inseam. I sat on a 2022 MT-03 (couldn't ride it, someone had sealed the deal on it 20 minutes before), felt really cramped on the bike. I sat on a 2019 CB300R, no cramped feeling. Rode the bike, bought the bike, loving the bike. Experience wise, this is probably my 12th bike, currently my only bike.

I recently purchased the MT-03. After putting 1400 miles on it in 2 months, I have noticed I love this bike! I am finding excuses to go for rides. The bike is replacing my car as my daily commuter, as it does 70-80mph in its sleep, with plenty juice left to accelerate in a pinch if needed. I have had my bike up to 110mph according to the speedometer, with it still accelerating, but probably near top end, and backed off because well, that's just fucking fast. As for power, it has no problem doing a wheelie in 2nd, so Beginners, be careful in those first 2 gears!!! Don't let this small bike fool you into thinking it's a calm bike. It definitely earned the MT (Master of Torque) name. Fuel economy, I have noticed, depending on how hard I ring its neck, I get anywhere from 40-60mpg, and I have achieved 70mpg during the break-in period when I babied it. Ergo-speaking, I am 5'10" & 190lbs with 32" legs, and I fit absolutely perfectly into the bike, with my thigh-to-knee tucking right in under the gas tank like it was meant to be, and the arches of my feet naturally go right to the pegs, with the shifter & brake levers at the perfect spots. I sit mostly straight up, with a ever so slight aggressive lean and slight elbow bend. The bike does allow for the rider to scoot back in the seat, drop the elbows, & really lay down on the gas tank in a tucked position if desired at times. As far as handling, the bike literally becomes an extension of you, and goes wherever you want, leans well, flicks & maneuvers with ease, and can take twisties as fast as your riding abilities will allow. I can see myself owning this bike for years to come!

@AlexSimmons11c

3 жыл бұрын

So awesome to hear it! I was impressed for sure, and I think Yamaha hit a home run with these! Enjoy and stay safe my friend!

@jeffturner6698

3 жыл бұрын

THANKS ALOT DESTRY!!! I've been contemplating these two models for some time, and was leaning towards the Honda. NOW, Im back in the middle, thanks to your review LOL. Im gonna have to (test)ride both, and let it come down to that and the dealer experience I guess. Did you ride the Honda before deciding? Curious. Thanks and Im glad to hear youre loving the MT. 👍🏻✌🏼😎🏍

@HawkOnHOG

3 жыл бұрын

@@jeffturner6698 I did not ride the Honda, but from the research I did, it wouldn't fit with my commuting. I believe its top speed is considerably less than Z400 and MT-03.

Nice voice delivery buddy. It is very comfortable to listen and understand what you say even though I am a Korean.

I haven’t ridden both, but I have sat on both. Being 6’4”, my legs didn’t fit under the tank of the MT-03. I could get under the tank, but the way it’s like a mushroom just didn’t give me 100% confidence that I would want to ride it for very long. I had no issues sitting on the Honda. So if you’re above 6’2”, you definitely want to sit on both to see how your legs fit.

@AlexSimmons11c

4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely, great point!

@whipstitchwebwork1383

4 жыл бұрын

Good point. Being shorter I've never thought about that.

@whipstitchwebwork1383

3 жыл бұрын

Bro!!!!!! you are admittedly 6'4...get a bigger bike

Great vid Alex, specific and to the point. Mike.

I owned a 2020 CB300R for five months, then traded that back in to get a 2020 MT-03, which I still own. The CB300R is a good-looking bike and light in weight and has a smooth, easy-to-ride power delivery. Those things are what it does well. The 286cc thumper has good power down low and decent power in the middle revs. As you'd expect, it flattens out beyond 8,000 RPM and wants an upshift, unless you like making noise. The handling felt good and sporty with surprisingly good suspension. The Dunlop GPR300 radial tires help with the handling, I'm sure, as they're good tires. What I was disappointed with on the CB300R was the weak front brake that never got any better than so-so, something that, for me, is hard to take. I bought the MT-03 this past March and am glad I traded the Honda for it because it really is a better match for what I like in my street bikes. Although it weighs more than the CB300R due to it's 2-cylinder engine and the styling could use some help in the looks dept. due to those goofy-looking fake air intake scoops, the engine has considerably more steam across the board (even down low, it pulls quite well), the bike handles like a dream, it also has surprisingly good suspension, and, thank God, the front brake actually works as I'd expect it to. The MT-03 also comes with Dunlop GPR300 radial tires, by the way. So, due to more poke from the engine and a good front brake, I pick the MT-03 over the CB300R lighter weight and better styling. For me, it's not much of a contest.

@ws8080

Жыл бұрын

That's interesting since the specs for front brake favor the Honda (petals on disc with 4 pistons, opt for ABS with IMU) and many reviewers say it has the best brakes in the class. Sounds like paper specs didn't show up on the pavement.

@YZEtc

Жыл бұрын

@@ws8080 And, the CB300R had a hi-tech-looking radial mount caliper, and I also switched to EBC HH-rated pads. But, when it came time to use the front brake, it was always disappointing. I don't see how it can be rated anything better than fair. A master cylinder with a smaller-diameter piston might have fixed it for me, but I traded it for the MT-03 before I tried it. I still have the Magura 12mm radial master cylinder I was going to try, too.

@lomparti

Жыл бұрын

You could easily install steel braided brake lines which will improve brake feel. Also play around with different brake pad compounds.

@YZEtc

Жыл бұрын

@@lomparti I would have had to have gotten custom lines made since I didn't see any for sale at the time (late 2019, early 2020) due to the routing to and away from the ABS unit. I did use EBC HH-rated pads which helped, but not enough. It wasn't a poor or mushy feel at the lever, but simply a lack of braking power - it felt weak. That's why when I read reviews saying the brake was so great, my reaction to that was .

I'm 6'5" and went with the CB300R over any other big 4 bike in this range simply due to comfort. You won't enjoy what's not comfortable.

I'm still a motorcycle noob. My first bike, which I had for about a year, was a Suzuki tu250x. I loved it, except that the lack of acceleration in the lower gears started feeling like a safety issue. If they made a tu450x, it'd be a no-brainer. QUESTION- Will the slight increase in engine size and horsepower of the CB300r vs my 250 be enough to satisfy my need for more acceleration? If I had the $$ I'd pick up a CB650r immediately.

Its funny ... I got my license last weekend and I've been looking into getting a bike. At first I was really set on the CB300R and when I watched your video the 1st time I was kinda mad cause you said the MT03 was better i went into a dealership yesterday and Ellen told me she had just the bike for me (we were talking for a week about bike) she showed me a 2020 MT03 I sat on it and immediately put a down payment and now funny enough I'm happy with your video lol. You were absolutely right. You have to sit on it and see which one speaks to you more. The only thing is I wish I sat on both side by side but for now I'm happy with the purchase. Can't wait to pick her up.

@AlexSimmons11c

3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha well my opinions are not always popular, I just try to be honest with all of you! I'm glad you got to sit on one, and that is always the most important thing. I learned that the hard way over 13 years of selling motorcycles haha

@locatedeatar3642

3 жыл бұрын

I also went for the Honda as my first bike, the smile is not taken away from me after a lap

@kharl92

3 жыл бұрын

@@locatedeatar3642 did you get it recently? How tall are you and how if you dont mind my asking? Just signed all the paper work and I am waiting on my plate for the Yamaha

@locatedeatar3642

3 жыл бұрын

@@kharl92 I've had it for a year, I'm 1.76m tall, I am Chilean and here the yamaha does not have abs so the difference in security is very big. inertia sensor, ABS and weight. the lighter the bike, the less energy it transmits in case of accident -> less severe injuries. for me the security is first and i am an engineer so without a doubt the cb300r is better, for the one who wants to ride and not have problems. now if you want to race is not good bike is a Honda LOL

@whipstitchwebwork1383

3 жыл бұрын

Well, I did the same...bought both bikes. The cb300r is WAY better. It may be because I live in a mountain area...that single thumper pulls up hill...my Yammy? nope.

I picked up a cb300r non abs for $3099 dollars at my local dealer + all the additional fees a week ago, at first I wanted to buy the mt-03 however at this price point the cb300r did it for me, I'm a beginner rider and I love the torque delivery throughout the power band, transmission is very smooth, the power delivery for me was more than adequate, very comfortable, top speed for me was 74mph at 109 degree ambient temp, I'm 190 lb, I'm sure in the winter time it will do better, this is going to sound crazy but I learned how to ride on a honda st1300 police motorcycle, I was scared of it the thing just wanted to get of my hands every time I gave it some throttle, I'm a fleet technician that's how I have access to this things and every time I serviced it I had to ride it to make sure everything was ok, for those of you that want a little more power on this bike it can be done by using a tune system like the power commander, and extra 10hp on this bike should be plenty, I'm planning on doing that after I ran out of factory warranty.

@AlexSimmons11c

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome to hear it Mike, and with being a technician yourself it will be easy to keep up with any work you need to do to it haha. Enjoy, and ride safe my friend!

Which one would be better for a passenger on the back regularly?

The MT-03 is perfect for smaller riders. Its comfortable, easy to flick, decent top end overall fun bike.

That's a neat Conti GT behind you... I see what you did there

Good review bud

@AlexSimmons11c

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching it!

Nice video, could quote the torque figures as well in NM please. Thank you.

How would the z400 have faired in this comparison?

Torn between these two or the royal Enfield Himalayan for my first bike. I don't want to be a gogo speed racer so love the Himalayan for it's known fun under 70mph, also live in area with tons of woods trails, windy roads, and country back roads. Only thing is I hope I get enough off road fun with it and don't end up more on road. If so I may be better jus with a standard. However, I know if get standard any off pavement is not possible so I am leaning toward Himalayan as long as I can fit it well being 5"6 only

Appreciated 👍👍

@AlexSimmons11c

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Hi Alex, when you compare any 2 bikes on rider comfort, seat height and footpegs would come into play generally so would your inseam and height. What are your measurements? Thanks for your take on this comparo!

@AlexSimmons11c

4 жыл бұрын

I am 5'9" so right in the middle of the height spectrum haha

@whipstitchwebwork1383

4 жыл бұрын

Anything taller than 6ft you might want to look elsewhere if you're going to ride daily. My inseam is 31 and I flatfooted both with my boots on. The mt03 has a weird tank situation that you'll notice. If you fit it is fantastic...if you don't your knees will be flayed out in a weird position. The Honda? Anyone can fit.

Nice vid. Nice RE. I have the same one, but i ditched the seat, tail light and turn signals for something better. I think the Honda looks betrer than the Yammy.

@AlexSimmons11c

3 жыл бұрын

That's why I love motorcycles, each appeals to different tastes and they can all be changed to better suit the rider :-)

Looking at both of these bikes for my first motorcycle. I’m 5’6 so low seat height was important. I’m torn between the two.

@AlexSimmons11c

3 жыл бұрын

You will probably have to go sit on and/or try them both to know! They are both great in their own rights, and the seat will depend on your personally. At 5'6" you should fit on either one, possibly a little better on the CB, but you won't know until you try! Good luck :-)

@RideYEG

3 жыл бұрын

I'm also 5'6 and have the CB300R. I personally like the seat height on the MT-03 a bit better but it depends on inseam.

Great insight Alex, thanks. Which shifter is smoother/positive engagement?

@AlexSimmons11c

3 жыл бұрын

Both shifted nicely I found, but the Yamaha was a little smoother especially for the first 3 gears.

@grumpysquid

3 жыл бұрын

Alex Simmons I decided to go with the MT-03. Your reviews helped a lot so thank you

@whipstitchwebwork1383

3 жыл бұрын

The Honda...hands down. Both are great bikes. But there isn't a company that makes better mechanics than Honda...buttery smooth

Picking between CB300R and Rebel300 as my very first bike. Could smbd advise me which option is better, please?

@CavernousILK

16 күн бұрын

go for the cb300 so we can be twinzies

I’ve only sat on both bikes, never ridden. I’m 6’3 and the gas tank flares on the Yamaha jab into my legs, the Honda doesn’t have that issue.

Hey Alex, Do you have any thoughts about reliability of 2009 Suzuki GS 500F?

@AlexSimmons11c

4 жыл бұрын

It can be a plenty reliable bike so long as you keep up maintenance and ride it regularly (carbs). However in that category the Ninja 500 is a WAY better choice if you can find one...usually around the same price, better transmission, better water cooled engine, better everything.

@uacghost

2 жыл бұрын

I have a 2004 gs 500f and it is a very reliable bike. Starts right up every time and rides smooth but I hate it because of the carbs. Having to let it warm up for minutes before each ride takes away some fun for me. Not to mention adjusting/cleaning them regularly so it is down quite a bit more than I would like. Planning on selling it at the start of this season and getting a yamaha r3.

The better looking bike by some margin is the Honda, but the better all round bike as far as I am concerned is the Yamaha. I've tried them both & purchased the Yam. Shame that I could not have had the looks of the Honda with the mechanicals of the Yam, such is life 🤔

I'm a self-proclaimed Honda boy (although I love all bikes). So it pains me to admit that while shopping around today, I sat on both, and the Yamaha was so much more comfortable to me as a 5' short dude. 😢 So I might be getting one. Either that or the NK300, that also felt good but not as comfy as the MT03.

Ridden both MT-03 is a no brainer, I found the Honda unpowered compared to the Yamaha and the torque is better, so bought the Yamaha

@AlexSimmons11c

3 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it was a clear decision for you! I have heard different people prefer each, so always good to hear those thoughts!

Was seriously considering between the MT-03 and CB300R. I preferred the looks of the CB300R, but I got the MT-03 because of one thing. The battery position. Who in Honda's design team thought it was a good idea to make it such that you have to remove the fuel tank to replace the battery? One of the first mods I do is get a Li-ion battery, and I'm not about to tear out the entire front fairings and the fuel tank just to get at the battery. It was a monumentally stupid design decision.

@whipstitchwebwork1383

3 жыл бұрын

I get your point. But, Really? You made your decision on these bikes on a once every 5year do? Lazy? Love you baby.

@georgekrpan3181

3 жыл бұрын

You don't have to remove the fuel tank. Remove the front screws, tilt it up, rest it on the battery cover, very easy.

@braddavis5802

Жыл бұрын

I had to replace my battery and it wasn't that crazy of a hassle. I had to take the plastics off previously for another reason but doing it again later for the battery went much faster.

Alex I think your opinion more less mirrors mine. I had the 2019 cb300r for close to a year and now I ride MT-03. For city riding where rev is kept to less than 6000rpm it is not even close. CB lower end torque makes the commute a joy. Honda build quality is better. everything tactile elements feel better. The one thing i dislike on the CB300R is the suspension. It was design for smooth roads only. Every bumps, every potholes you feel it. Now the MT, it feels way sportier than the Honda. Where the Honda redline at 9000ish MT will rev to 12500rpm. The engine revs very smoothly but the sounds it makes is a bit thrashy. CB300 can be vibey through the handle bar making your hand numb after about an hour ride. No such thing on MT. You sit in on the Yamaha where you sit on in the Honda. The gear change is very precise. No miss gear, no fault neutral. One thing that all MT owner hate is the quality of the screws and bolts. They rust easily if you park the bike outside for period of time. Makes no sense to me why Yamaha cheap out on these. Choosing the 2 could not be easier. MT-03 if you enjoy carving up mountain roads. CB300R if you mostly commute.

Which one is more comfortable for passenger?

@AlexSimmons11c

3 жыл бұрын

This is really a toss up since I didn't carry a passenger, the back seat on the Yamaha looked a little bit bigger, but the pegs looks like they were in a little better spot on the Honda. So could go either way!

@whipstitchwebwork1383

3 жыл бұрын

Neither. To be honest. If you are planning on have a passenger consistently...get a bigger bike

@pratikmahajan1318

Жыл бұрын

@@whipstitchwebwork1383 which bike do you suggest for better pillion comfort? I m from India , we have options of KTM duke 390 adventure , RE supermeteor 650 etc for touring

how's the mt03 for light off roading?

@rickrobinson8417

Жыл бұрын

Better than a grom and people love to off road those.

I have an mt03, only complaint is that the seat hight is a little low

@AlexSimmons11c

3 жыл бұрын

Well I'm glad to hear you only have one complaint haha! Im sure the seat height would a plus on someone else' side, every bike fits different, but all around I think they did a great job with this one!

@Propapanda0213

3 жыл бұрын

HAHA, no offence but it becomes a pro for shorter riders like me ;)

@whipstitchwebwork1383

3 жыл бұрын

Tall guy...ssshhhhh

Gah I still can't fucking decide XD I love the looks of the honda, I like Honda's history, but the mt-03 has more power and my commute is exclusively on the highway (70mph) and I love the twin cylinder engine the looks I'm somewhat in the fence about. The angry face just doesn't really do it for me.

@rushabhsavla8963

2 жыл бұрын

Same issue.... what did you pick?

I have the same bike (CB) and I am pretty happy with it! Excellent for beginner by my option. And looks very good from aside. Even for bigger guy 😄

@AlexSimmons11c

3 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear you are enjoying it!

In the long run I think the CB will be more reliable

Extra power always wins but styling wise, prefer round headlights. Probably a age thing. Was looking at something like these to replace my 40 year old honda commuter. However, did the short commute on my RE classic 500 which, was perfect. 👍

@AlexSimmons11c

4 жыл бұрын

I actually VERY much adore round headlights, I think it keeps with a better motorcycle aesthetic

@whipstitchwebwork1383

4 жыл бұрын

Had one. Too vibrating for my liking. With the power on these two bikes...I tend to agree with your philosophy...it is hardly noticeable, in fact most riders would guess the cb300r has more if they didn't know the specs. Like the RE. The single thumper, along with the weight, just appears more powerful. As for the poster talking about the mid to upper powerband I'd agree with the upper, but the cb300r from 3000 to 10000rpm is straight linear torque and really shines over my mt03 in the hilly area I live.It never struggles like the more horsepower mt03.

@whipstitchwebwork1383

3 жыл бұрын

Till it shakes your balls off.

Coming from a R6 after 11 years I tried a CB300R.. I found it incredibly nimble and well built for the price... only had one grip was ... fwy speeds as it can make 80mph but you are pretty revved out .... sold it... so now maybe an MT03

@nicholasmcdougald3737

2 жыл бұрын

Anny luck with the mt03?

@JoseVazquez-dy9tu

2 жыл бұрын

@@nicholasmcdougald3737 Have not ridden one yet

@hamel.etienne

Жыл бұрын

Or you could also just change de sprocket ratio

@JoseVazquez-dy9tu

Жыл бұрын

@@hamel.etienne Yea I've done that on Dirt bike/Dual sports... great point.

CB300R weighs about 50ish lbs more, correct? EDIT: I had it backwards, CB weighs less.

@Kevinhotep

3 жыл бұрын

No less

@AlexSimmons11c

3 жыл бұрын

On paper I think it weighs less actually, but to me they "feel" about the same when I am on them

@ZPOLLAK

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlexSimmons11c Sorry, thats what I meant haha.

@whipstitchwebwork1383

3 жыл бұрын

Correct sir. Both are light as hell...think bicycle light..but my cb300r is lighter than my mt03...negligible.

@sonicmoj1

Жыл бұрын

@@whipstitchwebwork1383 367 lbs vs 314 lbs. That's noticeable to me.. About 17% lighter.

I tossed up between these two bikes, chose the honda. Yamaha is cheaper here in Australia but man it's ugly. Honda is a safer first bike with its IMU abs and showa forks and it looks coooool ✌️

@AlexSimmons11c

3 жыл бұрын

I liked the CB300 more when riding in tighter traffic etc, and I do like the looks, but I liked the Yamaha better for an all-arounder...but man it's a tough pick hahaha

@whipstitchwebwork1383

3 жыл бұрын

Ugly? Ugly? I'd hate to see your wife....holy shit!!! The Honda is UGLY....lmao

Who are all these 6'4" and 6'5" guys posting about how they fit on a 300 little bike? If I was that tall, I wouldn't even be looking at these bikes. The only real reason I'm looking at them is because I'm only 5'6", otherwise I'd be all over some used BMW or similar adventure bike for the same $ but can't due to the seat height. Also, everyone keeps mentioning Honda reliability and Japan made, but this bike is made in Thailand and the 300cc engines have had issues pop up at 10K miles.... which would put in the same class as the Duke as far as I'm concerned. I personally don't understand everyone saying the CB has the best looks. For me, it's dead last in this class - looks like a 70s bike with the round helmet but with ugly plastic bits instead of chrome. If it wants to be classic than be classic. For looks and performance, it's got to be #1 Z400; #2 tie between G310 and Duke; #3 MT03; #4 CB. But for tech, it should be #1 Duke, #2 Z400 and CB. All the electronic features, slipper clutch, etc. that these bikes have and the MT03 does not. I found it strange that the nod in this video went to MT03 for the transmission but everyone knocks the MT03 for stiff clutch and no slipper... Most specs other than HP (brake specs, slipper, ABS with IMU) favor the CB.... and the Duke. For myself, I want the lower seat height and lightweight (too a point) of the CB, but the HP of the other bikes, and the electronics of the Duke. As others suggested here, Honda should make this a 350 and for me make it a scrambler.... I hear rumors they may actually be doing that and shipping soon?? If they don't, then I'm going for the Z400 or the MT03. I already have an old Bandit 400 that is the original screamer cafe bike though, so it's kind of redundant - hence the desire for a scrambler or adventure small bike that Honda doesn't currently offer.

i have the cb300 and after 1.5 year and 20000km i think im over this bike... highways mostly and the max speed is not satisfaing already...

@Voltomess

2 жыл бұрын

how fast you wanna go to your coffin?

@michabr.7306

2 жыл бұрын

@@Voltomess now im on a SV650 so far so good

Honda build quality vs Yam? No contest. I bought the Honda.