Great video, I pick my new Grizzly up Monday February 3rd. Bought the new 2020 xt-r. Hopefully get to catch up to ya sometime this year to go for a ride!!!

@kcatv9556

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Darren.. New 2020 Grizzly, That sounds pretty cool! We are headed to Little Sahara dunes in Oklahoma in March. Should be back down into Arkansas sometime April or May. If you’re interested in meeting up with us, give me a way to contact you. I can give you a heads up. Thanks for watching this video and commenting!

Nice job installing the power commander.

@kcatv9556

4 жыл бұрын

ManzanoMan Adventure .. Thank you! Thanks for watching!

Awesome job KC! Love this kind of stuff, I always learn something new! Wondering how much power is stored up in that motor.. It feels so much different on the lighter Raptor.. My '16 Grizz ran pretty lean from the factory, it did a lot of burping on descents..

@kcatv9556

4 жыл бұрын

Dirt ObseXXion .. Hey buddy! Yup weight makes a big difference on a 50 HP machine.. That’s why the little XX and the raptor feel so fast! 700 on a sport quad that’s pretty fun! Glad you enjoyed the video. I think the next vid will be more interesting than this one. Thanks for watching appreciate the comment my friend!!!

Nice work KC. The reason it goes off scale when you let off the throttle is because the machine will cut fuel in deceleration., totally normal. Curious if you watched my vids on installing the Koso, I installed the same thing on my grizzly about a year ago after installing the EHS programmer. I also did the EHS air box lid which helped a lot. I've sense gone back to the factory exhaust because the I couldn't take the noise of the HMF pipe.

@kcatv9556

4 жыл бұрын

Hey Robert.. Just checked out your video. Looked like you had the same thing in mind wanting to know where your air fuel ratio was at. I thought about with the EHS tuner as well. But decided to go with power commander because of the ability to make new maps on your own. Thanks for checking out the video!

I left a comment on another guy's comment but just wanted to say you have a great shop can't say nothing more than I'm jealous

@kcatv9556

4 жыл бұрын

Hey Stacy Thanks bud I seen your comment on the other comment. LOL!

Good vid man!

@kcatv9556

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!!

Awesome video thank you

@kcatv9556

4 жыл бұрын

Custom wheel horse tractor Eric83 .. Thank you for watching!

Great video. Just curious why you didn’t go with the AutoTune from Dynojet that pairs with the PCV?

@kcatv9556

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Quad Dad that’s a great question. There is a couple of reasons, one The extra expense of the auto tune unit itself. The other is I done some research on that and from what other folks were saying it doesn’t build a very good map because of the way a quad is ridden off and on the throttle. It’s not like a motorcycle for the street where you could cruise and it can do a better job at building a Nice map. Thanks for checking out the video!

Excellent video KC! Very interesting! I have some questions and I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to fuel systems, so bear with me buddy: After installing everything, you said the bike was running correctly from factory (or at least that's what my brain heard). Does that mean you didn't need to install all this stuff? Or does that mean "running correctly" isn't good enough? Running lean means: Less fuel to air mixture right? Does that add more power or just increase fuel mileage? A supercharger or turbocharger on a vehicle forces more air into the fuel system. Does it also increase the fuel consumption by an equivalent percentage or does it increase the air over fuel percentage? Thanks for your help my friend!

@kcatv9556

4 жыл бұрын

Quaddingsous . Hey buddy.. Where to start, Your first question Did I need to install all the stuff the answer is no. When I said the machine was running correctly I’m basing that on a happy medium of the air fuel ratio power versus fuel economy. A engine will make the most power in the 12.9 air fuel ratio range. but will get better Fuel economy in the mid to upper 13 range. So that’s where Yamaha had this thing running at. The best of both worlds. But that statement can be subjective based on what you would rather have. The most power or the best fuel economy. So no if you’re not planning on altering your airflow then in this case a Programmer is not needed. So why did I do all of this? You heard me say I’m going to make some modifications to the machine which is going to require changing my air fuel ratio and then that’s where the programmer Will come in to play. The other reason why I’m doing all this is. I’m getting bored with the machine, I mean not quite as boring as a Honda. but you know what I’m saying I need to do something with it..LOL Sorry I had to get that little jab in there. Hahahahaha!! As far as turbo or super charged yes that forces more air into the system so in return you have to send more fuel to get the air fuel ratio in the correct range. The more air you can get into an engine the more power it will make. But of course you have to send more fuel in with it as well. So the air fuel ratio gauge is just something to monitor your engine to see if it is running correctly or not lean or rich I’m saying. I think the next video will help explain a lot of this for you. Thanks for the comment buddy thanks for watching too!!

@quaddingsous

4 жыл бұрын

@@kcatv9556 Thanx for the excellent answers. It is exactly what I thought, but because I don't dabble in this stuff, I second guess the crap out of myself. Buddy, you speak the truth about Honda HP, so no need to apologize - HAHAHAHA! I'm trying to figure out a way to put an engine out of one of those Honda's Africa's into my Rubi. They're inline twins and come in a few different sizes. I'd like anything from a 600 - 800 twin. Don't want anything too heavy, just more HP than this lawnmower currently gives me - LMAO!

@kcatv9556

4 жыл бұрын

That would be cool if Honda would do something like that! When I say Hondas are boring I’m not necessarily talking about HP.. I’m saying they never need worked on so you get bored with them. LOL That’s one of the reason why I built the rear wheels for the XX.. Just to have something to do to it. It never needed worked on. LOL. Same thing with the grizzly there was absolutely nothing wrong with it. I put new rear brake pads on this winter and then I was like OK now what. LOL I needed to do more, get my creative juices flowing... Hahahahaha!!

@quaddingsous

4 жыл бұрын

@@kcatv9556 Hahahaha!!! Ohhhh, OK, I get it now - LMAO! Heyyyyy, I fixed my rear brake caliper (the piston was stuck out, so all I had to do was screw it back in) and put a new winch on this winter. Yup, that's all . . . sigh

@kcatv9556

4 жыл бұрын

Haha I thought you knew that all along! LOL I never was bagging on the HP LOL Meant you don’t work on them that’s why they are boring. Can-Am is never boring. LOL! Just kidding Can-Am guys wanted to get you in the conversation. Hahahahaha Yup I seen that new winch you got looked pretty awesome!!

After all the tuning, mods, etc, how many cc's do you think you will be pulling out of It? And how many h.p.? What exhaust will you be using?

@kcatv9556

2 жыл бұрын

Still running the same cc, 700 didn’t change that any. Probably getting close to 60 hp I would say she runs pretty good! The exhaust pipe is one I built myself. Thanks for checking out the video!

Hi again, you AFR sensor is it a wide band or narrow band, typically for atv’s they call for wide ?

@kcatv9556

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Kyle, the one I have is a narrow band reads from 12.1 to 16 I believe. But yes if you’re going to get a stand alone air fuel ratio gauge I would go with a wide band. KOSO has a nice one that I would’ve bought but it did not have tachometer and water temperature as well. They are pricey though.

if the sensor is not in the direct exhaust stream it wont read correct. like a car 02 sensor in those fouler bungs to keep from detecting a bad cat

@kcatv9556

4 жыл бұрын

Urban Adventures . Yup you’re right, the cavity I built for the sensor is completely opened up the entire side of the pipe was cut away so the exhaust will flow across the sensor. Not just a hole in the side of the pipe. I should’ve been more clear on that. Be sure and check out the next video where I run the machine and make a fuel changes with the programmer while viewing the gauge. You can see how sensitive it is. It’s cool stuff, well I think so. Thank you for watching and appreciate the comment!

Do u have any overheating problems or excessive heat on ur leg I’ve been looking at a new grizzly but all the reviews say they overheat

@kcatv9556

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Jonathan I have never had any over heating issues at all, on either machine. As far as a heating issue on your leg i’ve never noticed any problem with that. I always wear jeans or something never ride in shorts. Hope that helps you out. Thanks for watching!

Just wondering why you didn't get the auto tune add-on for the power commander.

@kcatv9556

4 жыл бұрын

I done a little research on the autotune and from what folks say it will erratically try to adjust the fuel map. Always trying to correct for a rich condition for lean condition when you’re on or off the throttle and will sometimes Will make an erratic fuel map I like the idea of just making the fuel map The way I want it. That’s why I installed the air fuel ratio gauge so I can monitor the air fuel ratio myself. That allows me to build my own map correctly. Hope that answers your question thanks for checking out the video!

I just asked this in one of your other video's but could you add a link to the mount you used for the Koso meter. I currently have my Koso AFR mounted on a Ram mount but it sit up high and to the left where yours is mounted in the center right above the speedo where it is easy to see. Thank you.

@kcatv9556

3 жыл бұрын

Hey buddy sorry for the delayed response busy at work today. I didn’t have time to poke around on my phone. LOL. I’ll try and explain this so it makes sense to you. I used an old hand guard mount for the clamping saddle to clamp on the bars. Then I fabricated a bracket bolted it to that mount and that’s what extends over and holds the Koso meter in the center. My Garmin trail GPS is also mounted to the clamp mount that’s on the bars. Hope that helps you out. Thanks for checking out the video greatly appreciated!

@440cubicinch

3 жыл бұрын

@@kcatv9556 That makes perfect sense on what you did. Thank you.

What cargo bag are you using on the back?

@kcatv9556

3 жыл бұрын

It’s a OGIO Burro bag. Hope that helps you out thanks for checking out the video.

I need to ask you another question. LOL. I bought the same Koso Tach/Volt/Temp gauge as you have. How did you hook the tach up. Wrap the wire around the plug wire or??? Thank you.

@kcatv9556

3 жыл бұрын

Yes I wrapped the tech wire around the spark plug wire right where it comes out of the coil. That’s cool you bought the same meter. Hope it works out for you.

@440cubicinch

3 жыл бұрын

@@kcatv9556 Thanks. I appreciate the info. Did you ever figure out why you had to make a new tune for different weather conditions??

@kcatv9556

3 жыл бұрын

@@440cubicinch hey bud just got done frying up some morel mushrooms! We found them in the woods behind our house. Umm good! Anyways yes I did find an issue it’s with the A/F sensor giving me false readings. I noticed it after I dunked it in the water one of the times, the gauge went all the way to Lean.. Then I realized it wasn’t working correctly anymore. If you get the A/F sensor on your unit you might wanna watch out for getting sensor wet after the engine is hot.

@440cubicinch

3 жыл бұрын

@@kcatv9556 Mushrooms!!! Your not eating those funny ones are you?? LOL. Glad you found the issue. I knew something was up. I installed a Koso Wideband last year. No problems so far but I dont do much water either. Thanks for the info again.

really nice videos. where did you buy bigger throttle body for your grizzly?

@kcatv9556

Жыл бұрын

Bought the throttlebody from CuervoATV He has a channel here on KZread. You can contact him through there. Thanks for checking out the video. Much appreciated!

@orarinnhalldorsson1899

Жыл бұрын

thank you very much for answering so soon. I live in Iceland and in the wintertime we ride in all kind of snow, hevy and wet and also we ride on the glaciers here wich is unbelivable. So I need all the power I can get, I have a grizzly 700 22 model and have put on it tuner,aibox lid and am ordering barkers duals exhaust from ehsracing. do you think I would benefit from having a larger trottle body or is it unecesery.

@kcatv9556

11 ай бұрын

@@orarinnhalldorsson1899 I wouldn’t worry about putting on a larger throttlebody. It really only else at higher rpm, didn’t help the low end torque at all.

what steel building kit you got

@kcatv9556

3 жыл бұрын

American buildings

Can you please add a link to the company that you got the A/F meter ……. thanks

@kcatv9556

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Richard . I just put the link to where I purchased the gauge in the description. That's a good idea. Thanks for watching!

How would I make the most horsepower out of a grizzly what are the options

@kcatv9556

Жыл бұрын

The easiest thing to do is change the clutching add a shim. That makes it feel like it has more power. Then you could put a exhaust system on maybe a fuel programmer then you could do a different camshaft all of that stuff helps it out nicely. Hope that helps you out. Thanks for checking out the video.

Can't wait to see next, Haha. Going to wake the bear, eh.

@kcatv9556

4 жыл бұрын

eh TV . Wake up the bear.. Haha ! You crack me up!! I think the next video is more interesting than this one. Thanks for watching my friend!!

@ehTV1000

4 жыл бұрын

@@kcatv9556 I enjoyed it, and think it's very helpful to folks looking to do the same modz

@kcatv9556

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks bud! That means a lot coming from you!!

Why didn’t you go with the single channel dynojet auto tuner?

@kcatv9556

3 жыл бұрын

Just thought with having the A/F ratio gauge I would be able to dial in my own fuel map. Thanks for checking out the video!

@spyder000069

Жыл бұрын

@@kcatv9556 I have the autotune on my rubicon. The nice thing is the autotune gets you in the ballpark and then you ride and adjust the map the way you want it. Then you leave the autotune enabled but just limit what it can add/remove. This way when the temperatures change or your change fuel or altitude its still running off your base map but has room to auto compensate for the difference and keep things in the sweet spot. I installed my autotune o2 sensor Just a bit before the muffler. This way its not as hot as it would be close the engine and might extend the life of the o2 sensor. In my case my '20 rubicon was going through alot of fuel and was showing excessive carbon on the plug. I had put on a hmf quiet core muffler and after the tune it made a significant difference on my mpg and the plugs look good.

Are you going to make your own tune for it. Never done it love to learn.

@kcatv9556

4 жыл бұрын

Posslea Holsteins Poss bro farms . Yes I will build my own fuel map. Be sure and check out the next video. I will show you two different fuel maps and a map that I built myself to showing The difference between the two while viewing the A/F gauge. Thanks for watching and commenting very much appreciated!

@stacyreid5077

4 жыл бұрын

KC ATV this very interesting to me as well on building your on fuel air mapping, I've seen several people installed this on their SXSs but only the ones who pretty much race theirs do their own mapping, so I'm interested to see how this works out for you since you use yours for trails. Thank you and I'll be watching for the next video to come

@kcatv9556

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Stacy. Yup as I do more mods to the machine I’ll continue to change the map to go along with the changes. Thanks for watching Stacy very much appreciated!

What size was that coolant sensor adapter

@kcatv9556

3 жыл бұрын

I believe it was 21 mm Hope that helps you out, thanks for checking out the video!

@dirtygrizzly4219

3 жыл бұрын

@@kcatv9556 thanks for info,I'm rebuilding my 700 grizzly atm almost done, want to put a temp garage on her I noticed the temp light was coming on alot when she was running

So stock A/F was good.

@notshared2543

Жыл бұрын

Putting a AF sensor on the bike is really good idea. I think this is the first time I've seen any one put one on a atv or motorcycle. Would make science out of carb tuning!

@kcatv9556

Жыл бұрын

@@notshared2543 I didn’t want to change the stock fuel mapping unless I had a way to monitor what was going on with the fuel ratio. The stock fuel mapping is not all that bad a little bit lean but it’s OK. Thanks for checking out the video and appreciate the comment!

Actually 14 isn't lean, your safe up to 17 or so. 14 will give best economy. Yamaha has it pretty close unlike what everyone says about them. Everyone says oh the Grizzly/kodiak run dangerous lean. I think they are fine from factory it's just a bunch of hype people started saying.

@kcatv9556

2 жыл бұрын

Hi superDave, Yup thanks for checking out the video!

Nobody needs one.

@kcatv9556

2 жыл бұрын

May not need, but I like it! Thanks for watching!

@garykarnes6514

2 жыл бұрын

@@kcatv9556 that’s what it is all about. Make it the way you want it. 😐

Power commanders are a joke. Get a Dobeck.