You never cease to amaze me with your knowledge! Truly appreciate all the information you are teaching! Thank you very kindly!

@StephenandYhana

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very kindly, sending my best to you and catch up soon 😉❤️😊

Really interesting as always :). Really enjoyed watching another episode in your series!

@StephenandYhana

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you guys, sending our best and catch up soon 😉😊

Hi Stephen, again this was so interesting and so well researched and narrated. I find it fascinating to learn about where we all originated from, and love hearing about all the different groups and sub-groups. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. We hope you and Yhana have a great week.

@StephenandYhana

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you guys, I Find it fascinating too, there is still lots we don’t know about the movement of people and DNA, but each year certainly brings more understanding. Its an interesting subject 😉😊 catch up soon guys and have a lovely week 😊

I - Facts. Haplogroup I developed from IJ in Europe. It's the only indigenous (native) paternal European haplogroup that goes back to the upper paleolithic (Cromagnon). Cheddar Man was I2. I1 is younger than I2. The oldest I1 remains were found along the Danube in Austria. The oldest I2 remains were found in Southern Switzerland dated to 13k years. Haplogroup I is Proto European not of Proto Indo-European (R1a, Rlb Steppe, Eurasian) in origin. I2alb Is17250 among other subclades developed from these anceint European natives that existed in Europe before them. Ethnicity is based on cultural and linguistic affiliation, not genetic origination. The Steppe people assimilated the IS17250 haplogroup on their Westward expansion. The I2-M26 exception are the Sardinians. They were isolated from Indo-European expansion.

@StephenandYhana

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much, for all this extra information, it’s much appreciated 😊 all the help people can get to understand their origins is a good thing. Genealogy and genetic DNA are fascinating subjects

The epicenter of this civilization is in Vinca, Serbia. On the other side of the Danube river is the older Starcevo Culture. And the oldest is in Lepenski Vir 10.000 BC. Vinca location is 14km from Belgrade. If you like to visit, let me know. :)

Great video! Greeting from I2 PH908 from Montenegro. There is one theory about the origin of I2 people that participated in ethnogenesis of Slavs. It says that those people came with Bastarnae tribe in western Ukraine. Bastarnae were Germanic tribe.

@yuriyfedyshyn1862

Жыл бұрын

Bastarnae theory looks plausible in this case. Hope there will be more samples and data in the future to investigate the S17250’s origin topic

@Mina-mb4bh

Жыл бұрын

indeed, but we still can't be 100% sure.

@Mina-mb4bh

Жыл бұрын

@@yuriyfedyshyn1862 but we Slavs with I2a have closest relatives in modern-day Germanic peoples so it is possible

Stephen this is so interesting. Thanks for sharing this. 😊

@StephenandYhana

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Lisa, sending my best and catch up soon 😉😊

it was very beautiful . We follow your channel and always enjoy your quality videos We look forward to your next videos 🙏🙏🙏🌹🌹🌹🌹😍🌹😍🌹😍

@StephenandYhana

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very kindly, sending my best to you and catch up soon 😉❤️😊

Another interesting video in your DNA series, Stephen. Once again, you've really done your research! We enjoyed watching but I won't begin to tell you I completely understood. I recently sent my DNA sample into Ancestry and are looking forward to seeing the response online. At that point I will try to muddle though, referring back to your videos in this series. I'm sure quite often! Thanks for taking the time to compile this information and sharing it, Stephen!

@StephenandYhana

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Dave and Kathy for such a supportive comment 😉😊 its much appreciated, hopefully it won’t take to long to get your own results through 😉😊 catch up with you both soon ❤️😉😊

What an interesting and great vlog this has been, do keep up the amazing work you've been doing over there too! Stay safe, stay connected~

@StephenandYhana

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very kindly, sending our best to you and catch up soon 😉😊

@kevinpople7828

2 жыл бұрын

@@StephenandYhana can you please make a video for J-M172! x

@StephenandYhana

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevinpople7828 Hi Kevin, I am looking at doing another series and focusing more on DNA groups, I will definitely add this to the list 😊 A big thank you for the suggestion 😊

@kevinpople7828

2 жыл бұрын

@@StephenandYhana thank you! x

This video is amazing and very informative thanks for sharing

@StephenandYhana

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very kindly, sending my best to you and catch up soon 😉❤️😊

Another great episode. I said before it's amazing how people migrate all over the world and can be traced back to individual origins like these. You've collected so much info in your research.

@StephenandYhana

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Donna, for the lovely comment, its much appreciated 😉😊 sending my best to you and catch up soon

I am Serb with I-S17250 haplogroup. Greetings and thank you.

I’m Albanian and have this haplogroup.

@StephenandYhana

Жыл бұрын

Hey, thank you very kindly for dropping a comment 😊 I can imagine that the percentage of men that carry this haplogroup is relatively high in Albania 😊 catch up soon

My father has this exact haplogroup - I-S17250. He's from Eastern Romania.

@StephenandYhana

Жыл бұрын

That’s very interesting, my father’s ethnicity overlaps Romania too, the whole area is very interesting 😊 historically and culturally

My son is I-S24121. I have a difficult time finding any information about it. He has German, French, Irish, British and a little Greek/Balkan DNA from his Dads side

Hi Stephen. Another great information and go back pretty far back. And where your grandfathers come from. Using not just our country but others for the research. 🙂👍❤️

@StephenandYhana

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you guys, I really appreciate the kind support 😉😊 sending my best to you and catch up soon 😉😊

Cucuteni is a village we have here, interesting new episode , the phylogenetic scheme looks like my neighbors' tube tv set from Yamna period !

@StephenandYhana

2 жыл бұрын

Lol, 😉😊 I can imagine there are a few Cucuteni villages in your kneck of the woods, the Trypillian culture was spread right across a Eastern Europe and it would surprise me if this DNA group belongs with your own ancestors too 😉😊 thank you buddy for your kind support too 😊 catch up soon

Great video,really nice to see people talking about HG,which is not so popular today.. Greeting from Croat who is I-PH908 branch.

@StephenandYhana

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the lovely comment, I find the origins of DNA and even their connections to long forgotten cultures fascinating 😊 greetings from England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 buddy 👍😊

Nice video appreciate the history 👍

@StephenandYhana

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very kindly, sending my best to you and catch up soon 😉❤️😊

This is my brother's haplogroup. He did 23andme, predominantly from the Herzegovina/Dalmatia region.

@StephenandYhana

Жыл бұрын

Oh wow, that’s very interesting. I think it’s a very interesting Haplogroup especially with those ancient connections 😊 a big thank you for your comment, it’s much appreciated

Wow Nice❤ Amazing👍

@StephenandYhana

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very kindly, sending my best to you and catch up soon 😉❤️😊

🎧Very nice history on this interesting Trypillia culture, really good research from you. 13:42 👍

@StephenandYhana

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very kindly, sending my best to you and catch up soon 😉❤️😊

Hi, your video is great! One question if you don't mind... Could some of I2a1b-L621 (I2a din) in balkanites/south slavs be non slavic? If I2a1b-din is very associated with the middle age slavs, does that mean that it's fully and completely brought just by them? I heard some small percentages of it could be brought with Goths, Avars, Magyars or even by the autochtonous Thracians/Dacians/Getae. Could we exclude such completely? I think that I2a1b-din is at least 90% brought by slavs in balkans, what do you think? Is it a realistic estimate? What about R1a in balkans? Is it all slavic? I heard that some of R1a in balkans could came with non-slavs tribes/people like Goths, Dacians, Getae, Illyrians, Pannonians, Celts etc. Between I2a1b-L621 and R1a, which is more exclusively slavic in the today balkans? I would be very glad if you could answer me precisely. Thanks in advance!

@StephenandYhana

Жыл бұрын

I think it’s very possible, that our ancestors mixed with different groups of people, I’m pretty sure that some groups traveled big distances to trade and even hunt. Here in England, Neolithic peoples travelled across the channel to source stone to use in tools. I think the percentage would be low, as you said. This mix of peoples may even be a reason why a genetic mutation occurred. I certainly agree with what you said. Hopefully a few other people join in with this conversation as it’s a great question

@GGTanguera

Жыл бұрын

Genes are not exclusively Slavic, German, or Japanese.

Interesting video, thank you! I'm also I-S17250 and my paternal ancestors come from the island of Ikaria, Greece.

@StephenandYhana

Жыл бұрын

Oh wow, that is very interesting 😊 part of my DNA incorporates most of the countries that surround Greece. It’s incredible how widespread some of these haplogroups are. A big thank you for the comment 😊

Great video, thank you! Do you have any information on the A26390 branch of I-S17250?

@StephenandYhana

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t have any information on the haplogroup you mentioned, but I am researching for a second series, so I will definitely add that to the list 😊 catch up soon

I am Dinaric Croat, my DNA is 91% I-S17250. Great job, Stephen.

@StephenandYhana

Жыл бұрын

Thank you buddy 😊 for the lovely comment

@borislavbrkic8662

Жыл бұрын

The entire genealogy amazes me, and makes me re-think traditional history books on migrations. When the highest frequency area of one subclade is rugged terrain (in this case Dinaric area, where >70% of population shares S-17250 DNA subclade), replacing DNA to this extent thousands of years ago does not sound credible at all. I am inclined to accept that I2a1 haplogroup has been dominant here since Ice Age, and S-17250 subclade developed here. Thoughts? Thank you.

Hello my friend, how are you? you start this series very well, about the DNA and you also represent this topic very well, but why world is trying to capture this subject, fully watched and try to understand your discussion,

@StephenandYhana

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you kindly buddy, it’s a difficult subject to follow, but it’s also a fascinating one 😉 shows how in some way we are all connected 😊🙏 I love that idea, makes our world a much smaller place. Thank you kindly and catch up soon 😊

Although you are on good track you have a lot of Caps. Bulgars are Mongolic tribe from Russia, Balto-Slavic is Indo-European that is very present in Bulgars too. The least is present in Serbia

My paternal lineage is IS17250. I hope my son will, finally, marry and have a son.

Helllooo this is so interesting..Thanks for sharing..:Be safe always ..new friend here..Stay connected

@StephenandYhana

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very kindly, sending my best to you and catch up soon 😉❤️😊

فيديو رائع جدا ومميز بالتوفيق

@StephenandYhana

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very kindly, sending my best to you and catch up soon 😉❤️😊

Nice to meet you friend, you fine 🙏🙏 Coming soon to my room 🙏

@StephenandYhana

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very kindly my friend, sending my best and catch up soon 😉😊

Can you explain why my father is IS17250 but my brother is IM423. I thought IS17250 was a subclade of IM423? It would make more sense if my father was IM423. My paternal family hails from Podkarpackie, Poland and Ireland. Thank you for any help in advance.

@StephenandYhana

2 жыл бұрын

That’s a strange one, as many thousands of years separate those two groups, and three subclades exist in between them. I would begin by asking the DNA company that question first. Maybe one of the kits was damaged in some way and a true test not capable. If both men are tested, and their DNA compared - they should share roughly 3500cm (50% DNA). If correct. Your DNA company has not provided correct results.

@mandyshurak6058

2 жыл бұрын

@@StephenandYhana The testing company is 23andme. When I asked about the results I was told they’re the same haplogroup but one is simply missing a mutation, which made no sense. Thank you for your response. I will continue to investigate further.

@StephenandYhana

2 жыл бұрын

They do belong in the same group, but IM423 is much older. I think your brothers kit was most likely corrupted in someway and a full result not able. Your brother is most likely IS17250. Hope you get to the bottom of it, my apologies for not being able to answer the question 100%, sending my best

@mandyshurak6058

2 жыл бұрын

@@StephenandYhana No I really appreciate your time. Just for clarification my brother was tested first and was tested as I2 if I remember correctly. And then a year or so later my father was tested and then they updated everything. My father and a few of his other paternal relations were changed to IS17250 and my brother to IM423. So I don’t know.

@StephenandYhana

2 жыл бұрын

I2 is the patriarch of that branch, sounds to me as though 23andMe lacked the data to back up their science. As their database gets bigger, the science becomes more accurate. Your brother is definitely iS17250. 😊

Stephen greetings for you. Greetings brother. My DNA is I2a-Y3120 (3800 years old). And otherwise very close to your DNA I2a-S17250. And mine is Dinaric. Someone claims it's the genetics of the ancients ..ILIRA ".I don't know how you see it.

@StephenandYhana

2 жыл бұрын

Hi buddy, a big thank you for leaving the comment and very cool that we have some shared cousin DNA too. I think it certainly is very old DNA and I love the connection to the Trypillian culture too. I find those ancient connections fascinating

@y-dnkzokialeksic516

2 жыл бұрын

@@StephenandYhana That it fascinates and researches me and I spent 2 years in that job and I still do that job. Simply fascinating.

@y-dnkzokialeksic516

2 жыл бұрын

@@StephenandYhana That it fascinates and researches me and I spent 2 years in that job and I still do that job. Simply fascinating.

@vedranpostek2394

2 жыл бұрын

It isn't Illyrian because I2a1-L621 was non existent on the Balkans before 6th century.

@y-dnkzokialeksic516

2 жыл бұрын

@@vedranpostek2394 You must not have heard. In 2017, Zuzana Hofmanova did several tests at Vlasac near Lepenski Vir. Zuzana is a scientist in front of Max Plank from Germany. The results are official and recognized in the world. Out of a dozen different skeletons, they found that most of them have I2a haplogroup DNA. the oldest was I2-M438 from 7,100 years ago, from which later I2-L621 was obtained, of course all other newer haplogroups. Something similar was found in Bulgaria, but a little younger.

Would like to see Haplogroup N-CTS2929

@StephenandYhana

2 жыл бұрын

A big thank you for the suggestion, I am looking at doing another series, so will certainly include this in the list too 😉👍

I guess these folks ended up in Southern Italy as well...because this is my father's Y-DNA and his paternal line is from Basilicata

@StephenandYhana

2 жыл бұрын

That’s very likely, as I can imagine the migration spread into Southern Europe. You may even have an Eastern European connection perhaps. Even if it’s a long way back. Thank you Kindly for the comment 😊 and catch up soon

@tbr7921

2 жыл бұрын

@@StephenandYhana yes, my DNA is very Eastern European/West Asian, and I have no known ancestors from there, they are all southern Italian, but the area of central Italy where my grandmother's family is from was settled by the Bulgars in the early 7th century and now this turned up for paternal grandfather's line. good stuff

Subclade I-S17250 is very likely a White Croatian origin that spread(its sub-branches) from Slovenia to Greece with migration from White Croatia(south-eastern Poland and south-western Ukraine,). It also spread towards Slovakia, the Czech Republic, and Ukraine.

@StephenandYhana

Жыл бұрын

Thank you very kindly for the very interesting information 😊 I totally agree that the subclade originated in the areas you mentioned 😊 a big thank you and catch up soon

@tomislavhorvat846

Жыл бұрын

@@StephenandYhanaIt is interesting that Croatian toponyms also exist in Greece and Macedonia just like I-S17250 genetics. The point is that this genetics confirms written document ie De Administrando Imperio that is, it proves the migration of Croats to the Balkans. However, this also proves that migration starts from White Croatia and it goes in all directions (from Slovenia to Greece, etc.) It would be interesting if you could make a video on that topic and if you need help feel free to contact me. www.waughfamily.ca/Ancient/Tree%20and%20Map%20for%20Hg%20I.pdf

It's not "12" it's "I2"

@StephenandYhana

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for pointing out the blooper, lol 😆👍

You claim that I2a originates in Ukraine what is not true, because the only habitable land was Balkans

Watching this while im in bed .debs xx

@StephenandYhana

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Debs, xx hope you enjoyed, although it is a tough subject 😊 Yhana and I were out kayaking today 😊 it was lots of fun ❤️😉😊

@debsmostexcellentadventure5353

2 жыл бұрын

@@StephenandYhana yay! cannot wait to see the video,did you enjoy it? also brit girls release my #challenge tomorrow debs xx

@debsmostexcellentadventure5353

2 жыл бұрын

@@StephenandYhana lol still not well missed the enjoyed alot bit x

@StephenandYhana

2 жыл бұрын

That’s very cool, can’t wait to see it xx 😊 it’s half term this week, so Yhana and I will get our video filmed this week ❤️😉😊 We had a lot of fun today, although Yhana got chased by a swan 🦢 lol

@debsmostexcellentadventure5353

2 жыл бұрын

@@StephenandYhana everyone who does the dance will be sent there link to all other challengers,plus will go on my description so far got olga debs xx

yamnaya was slavic , cucuteni-trypylia was ukrainian and moldavian ancestors

We are here at least 20000 years