Man it would be nice to see Sony release a 28mm 1” (no cropping) smartphone. No tele and ultrawide lenses, just one focal, with proper aperture control. Just like the the Panasonic DMC-CM1, but with all the Sony goodies: the focusing, the apps and the UI.

@4paapii

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree.

@joshwilliams9803

2 жыл бұрын

Just thinking the same thing, found a cm1 on eBay for £450,thinking imagine this with an Xperia makeover and a xenon flash, I'm pretty sure there's a market for that🤔🤔

@DanPandrea

2 жыл бұрын

@@joshwilliams9803 there should be a market for this product. Furthermore it would keep the RX line alive for a few more years.

@TheBeatLink

2 жыл бұрын

Do you really want that Sony UI? I doubt it. Even if they come up with a great 28m-ish 1inch camera-phone I would wait for apple or Leica to come up with they’re options.

@DanPandrea

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheBeatLink you’re doubting I want what I say I want. Good to know that. Anyway. Check out the Leitz Phone 1 to see what Leica is doing with a 1” smartphone. As for Apple I doubt they’ll drop the convenience of multiple lenses to address a niche market. I do believe Sony is in a unique position to launch such a smarphone.

Thanks for the mention! When you said you'd "quote" me, I thought it'd be: "anonymous Internet man complained." I never managed to figure out why mine overheats. I thought maybe it was related to using the 5G radio but that wasn't the case, either. There was a firmware update yesterday (12/24) and it seems to be better now ... ? This phone does my head in. At least the still photos are good.

@saturnspike

2 жыл бұрын

Setting the screen to 60hz significantly lowered temps across the board for me. So silly that it's not variable refresh rate.

@saturnspike

2 жыл бұрын

@Tessoro Desoto I totally agree.

@Hasan-pt4zl

Жыл бұрын

Is it still overheating, and are they still releasing updates I was considering buying a second hand one please get back to me I would really appreciate it.

Odd to say but in the settings menu for Video Pro, turn off stability. 1. You get more frame. 2. It alleviates many of the artifacting that ruined your videos and the stability is actually better. My theory is that SONY is coupling the native OIS with their e-stab and many occasions they clash instead of harmonise causing inconsistent stability. Turn it off and it's just the OIS. Natural pan, less jitter organic motions!

i didnt realize the opening was shot with the phone until you mentioned it... that proofs how nice it looks...

I have had my Xperia PRO-I for 3 weeks now and it hasn't disappointed me it's definitely the start of better things to come from Sony Xperia in the future.

@hubbardfan

2 жыл бұрын

Same here... Well one week or so in the USA... Love this thing...

@saturnspike

2 жыл бұрын

@Tessoro Desoto for me disabling the 120hz refresh fixed it, and the battery life is now on par with the I mark ii and iii. Silly they included the option with no variable refresh rate.

@hubbardfan

2 жыл бұрын

@@saturnspike in reality there's only really certain times we really need it... Luckily if you are gaming the game enhancer can change the screen refresh regardless of what you have the main refresh rate set to... The only real time I notice it where I'm super pumped I have high refresh is gaming and scrolling the gram super fast lol 🤣🤣🤣

@1yaz

2 жыл бұрын

@@saturnspike I prefer Sony's approach. Simpler, i.e less things to go wrong. It's just on or off, and the switch just works. For comparison, on the Pixel 6 with VRR you have nuggets like 60Hz draining battery faster than 120Hz, phone capping at 110Hz, phone stuck at 10Hz, etc.

Overheating is feature that everyone knows and loves about Sony cameras. It is there because Sony phones and cameras are developed in Sweden. It is actually hand warmers that kicks in after 12 mins.

All the phone camera needs for shooting video is a nice chunky grip so it's easy to hold for long periods, and a big battery built in, that's easy to recharge or swap out. And maybe a viewfinder. And perhaps interchangeable lens mount to make it more versatile. And maybe weather sealing and tough plastic so it can take a few knocks.

@maoraharon21

2 жыл бұрын

they also need to make it so it can't make phone calls so it won't interrupt the video.

@Ruylopez778

2 жыл бұрын

@@maoraharon21 Yeah, take out the internal phone parts to save space and weight

@philipc7273

2 жыл бұрын

And a convoluted menu to make it harder to use

@dancygr

2 жыл бұрын

@@philipc7273 🤣

@JohnDrummondPhoto

2 жыл бұрын

And remove all those power-sucking apps. Especially a web browser. Who web surfs while shooting video? Which also means, who needs Internet access. You don't have to add this thing to your mobile plan. Think of all the data charges you'll save!

That’s a great observation, Kai, that some people would get a great Experia and others might not. Nice work as always.

The best duo ever!

The reason you got more dynamic range in basic mode because the hdr was on. If you switch on the hdr in vdeo pro, will be the same. Just tested recently. And you can change the exposure in video pro on the second menu page. No quality differencebetween apps just the controll layout/ simplicity was changed.

For stabilization, everyone forgets that the Sony ZV-1 and new Sony cameras save gyroscopic data, and can be stabilized much better in post. That is a nice feature since you don't have to worry about having super steady hands while shooting. I think when shooting you increase the shutter to double or triple the normal setting, so if I am not mistaken there "might" be less motion blur depending on the settings.......... gyroscopic data should be included in all cameras

@CZP-01

2 жыл бұрын

Yep. I almost always stabilize afterwards using catalyst browse. I use a zv-e10

good job as allways, keep it up and happy new year 😊

Does the footage have the gyro data to use catalyst browse to stabilise in post?

Great to see you in my neck of the world! So rare to see famous creators shooting where I sometimes shoot!

Yes. Something felt wrong. He is usually an hour or two lat compared to the other KZreadrs. I guess it will be released tomorrow.

Hi Kai may I ask did you facing some issue like the camera cant working on certain apps like videography and cinama apps...？

Now you pointed out the text blur, I cant unsee it!

the auto button in cinematography pro app is not for auto iso. it automatically scans which setting is best for that specific frame you are taking. if it says too bright for auto try to go extreme lower or higher setting push that setting on and try again auto. it might adjust it. same for the shutter speed

merry Christmas everyone

If I remember right Sony have a special 3,5mm connector with stereo mic input!

What media card are you using to get 1hr of video?

This video is better then the rest. Good dialog.

Can u check, does it give CLEAN live video to USB-C->HDMI? To connect hdmi grabber and stream live view in fullhd? :)

Nice Lindberg frames mate! Also, some of this footage looks amazing (when not much movement is involved). Bumping up shutter speed helps with blurry visuals when panning.

@muzslya1

2 жыл бұрын

+ Lindberg

3:13 Right after you said Stabilization is Fantastic, the video is shaking.

Merry Christmas

I assume that Leica M11 review wasn't supposed to be up so early 😂

OMG tell me you live in that area and I’ll definitely meet you in the streets of the borough one day ! Love your contents so much ❤️❤️❤️

Bravo, you are a professional. Hello, I am also a photographer. Tell me please? For photos and videos, which is better SONY XPERIA PRO-I or SONY XPERIA 1V? Thank you very much in advance.

14:44 Pixel 6? When did it come into play?

Yeayyy....Kingston upon Thames 😍

This is perfect. Many of these other KZreadrs just don't get what we want when doing a camera test and it's so frustrating. They are constantly swapping cameras, images, and/or videos without giving you time to actually analyze what you are looking at. They do not talk about the minutia or are not informed about what they are even doing.

I must say it takes some getting used to with the pro-i video app but I am loving mine... This thing is easily one of the coolest pieces of tech ever.... You just have to commit to practicing and knowing the device inside and out... Um I have the same tripod mount and maybe Lok should have attached a cheap monopod to the base to help with stability... Video came out really nice! If I had a complaint about the video pro app it would be add a simple exposure guide similar to how it is in cinema pro... That being said haven't had many issues with just eyeing it...

You didn't turn on hdr? Or it wasn't an option or just didn't want it on.

Aww, Kai got his initial on his beanie. How dorky! Happy Holidays!

I love how you “talking with the audience” …! ☺️

That's mean I could be waiting for markIV series and let pass it right?

Yes but where did you buy that hat? Must know. Picked up Pro i , brilliant.

The more reviews I see of this phone the less I want it. The GoPros provided much better footage. I think it will depreciate fast in value at 2nd hand costs.

@boyden1987

2 жыл бұрын

But GoPros aren't phones

@CrazyPanda688

2 жыл бұрын

All android handsets depreciate fast in value Smart people buy an apple phone because it retains much more value compared to any android equivalent, and then actually buy a camera for photography and video lol

@harisnaufal3259

2 жыл бұрын

Xperia pro i isnt my cup of tea (since sony is basically Apple's teacher) but neither iphone 13 pro. Apple is basically trying to punish their consumer with their inflexibility.

@a.hammad9194

2 жыл бұрын

@@CrazyPanda688 then wouldn't the smart thing to be to buy an android after it depreciates?

誕快樂🍊🎄⭐ 2022 新年快樂 😎💛 祝你冬天快樂🎀 ❄🌨 Merry Christmas 🎂🎆 Happy new year 2022 🍔🍜 I wish you a happy winter ⛄

Since when did you hang out in Kingston?!

All about the red stone Island jacket 👀💯

Need to get rid of the manfrotto twistgrip and get a shoulderpod pod one works better. The annoying thing with 5mkii and maybe 5 mkiii you cant us external mic with normal video app unlike the old XZ3 which is really annoying. The face detect works really well though, was tempted by this as doubles as a phone and more change of you been creative as only small to carry.

That Knickerbocker hat. Nice

Feels like it’s not so good for vlogging at 24 mm. Better zoomed in a bit. Filming just what you see looks awesome. That stabilzation is sadly just bad.

Kingston Upon Thames if anyone is wondering. ☺

Does Loks hand shake ever?

Anyone got overheating issues?

Hey guys. My main issue with the Pro-i is the price. I can get a Zv-1, smallrig cage, wireless mic set, led lights, Zhiyun gimbal, wide lens adapter, various filter sets, spare batteries and charger and still have a load of money over and just keep my old phone rather than buy the Pro-i

I mean lok shoots everything great .... 😊😊😊

Repping the Stone Island as ever 👌👌👌

With that voice, you should be a narrator. Love your content.

What does that cost then?

The bitrate in video Pro is huge. 2x cinema pro bitrate up to 140mbps h.265 hevc.

Hi kai, do you remember we met in UK in 1960😎

Phone nokia 3650 card to sony pro ?

Would pairing it with a gimbal like a DJI Osmo mobile fix the issue?

@logitech4873

2 жыл бұрын

For sure. Disable digital stabilisation and use a prooper gimbal. But then why not just use an RX100

@hubbardfan

2 жыл бұрын

So stable on the dji osmo mobile 3... Lok is incredibly stable haha especially given how he was filming it with everything attached

@arcsephiroth

2 жыл бұрын

This is a fabricated issue by these two clowns. My Pro I doesn't do this. There is a video link explaining why these clowns has this choppy movement.

My phones both overheat while shooting 4k. Only difference is how fast. Twelve isn't unusual in daylight, depending on how hot the day is.

It's Beautiful but i can tell It's struggling to focus at times.

Hi Kai. I think "Apple fan boy" like me would like seeing you and Lok comparing the video performance between Xperia PRO-I with iPhone pro max. Many thanks!

He's talking about being in scruffy clothes, but he's rockin' that Stone Island jacket though!!

For Sony's next trick, they'll put the entire Xperia phone into the Alpha A7V!

Any chance you can compare this phone to the Sony rx0 ii?

@lltechview

2 жыл бұрын

I am planning to do a comparison on my channel. First glance the Xperia has the advantage of the wider aperture. It looks better imho in Video and stabilisation is also better.

@youranonymous931

2 жыл бұрын

@@lltechview thanks a lot!

How was you battery life? I got it 48 hrs ago and I'm not very impressed.

@lltechview

2 жыл бұрын

60 Hz refresh rate is ok. 120Hz you can get by a day but its not awesome for sure

@CuriousGoose

2 жыл бұрын

@@lltechview there's something wrong with mine then. It doesn't last a full day even when I'm at work and not using it. Just checked and it wasn't on 120Hz. It also overheated whilst I was messing with camera settings, not even filming, for 15 mins. Hopefully this isn't the case for everyone and I can get a replacement.

Lok hand always stable. even with phone

I wish you the best in Hong Kong. Please do not stand in front of a tank my friend!

good review . Look like lots of out of focus in the video .Sony need more work on this & for the price , a few more version will improve to a truly workable blog cam or cam.Every photographer should pass this cam.phone

4k60fps record length pls

It's just looked like kai is walking in front of wavey green screen lol

"It's a Sony, so you're not expecting the colors to be fantastic" *A1 has entered the chat

I wish my DSLR was as portable as this phone

Oh my god! You finally can shoot your video in real skin tone. That's good!

I think you can see the current smartphone video recording look a lot, which is more interpreted rather than recorded. the videos look artificial and also the stills too ... from a distance it looks very good. up close and in detail, the pixels look different from real "normal" images. also with my samsung or with drones ect. i don't think that's just the sensor size. it's this AI thing that invents more than it captures. lg and thanks for your video! Greetings from Germany!

@lltechview

2 жыл бұрын

Especially on the Xperia you don't notice that so much as they have way less artifical sharpening and editing of the image.

Greetings from Hong Kong. Merry Christmas Kai & Lok! As the PRO-I is not using the full size of the 1" sensor sensor, when it compare with ZV-1 side by side, ZV-1 still wins for the sharpness, resolution and stability. Especially the stabilizer program have a huge room to reach the name of "PRO". Sony is doing excellent on cameras and cine recorders, but their Xperia phone always stuck with software experience. Higher price then Samsung Galaxy S series, but the user experience is not as friendly as competitors. Hopefully they can improve their software part to get market's atttaction.

@hubbardfan

2 жыл бұрын

You are right... Though again not meant to appeal to people who want to click and go... That's what the pixel and iPhones are for... It's meant for people wanting to do specific things that require much more control than you would normally get without an aftermarket app... And most aftermarket apps usually don't run with all the phones available features...

Hard to hold? Buy the handle thingy from Sony! Maybe that’s why they make it so flat and tough to handhold properly

"Too bright for auto ISO" tells me, this phone camera has a very high base ISO. What is it, 640? 800?

@pixels_per_inch

2 жыл бұрын

The base ISO is 100. That message just means it cannot lower the ISO any further to reduce exposure as it was in manual mode.

Is it the KZread compression or is the video really this bad? Especially moving objects are just a big mess of compression artifacts.

@hubbardfan

2 жыл бұрын

I'm wondering if he had the shutter speed up too high... The common rule for video is to have your shutter speed double your frame rate for the best smoother motions... So that would be like 1/60 for 30fps... for 120fps the closest it can get is 1/250... for 24 it's 1/48... I could imagine if you had to up the shutter to compensate for just too much bright light then you would will get those choppier looking movements or slower might so something similar as well....I find that I shoot a higher frame rate if the light is super bright so I can raise the shutter speed to get smooth motion or you have to switch to the f4.0 aperture or use an ND filter... EDIT: I've mostly been using 30fps on my videos so I end up with 1/60 shutter... So this might be why I don't see as much blurring...

@pixels_per_inch

2 жыл бұрын

@@hubbardfan No, it's the opposite. The stutter speed was too low. The Pro-I is using hybrid stabilisation (OIS + EIS) which is very hard to do right at slower stutter speeds.

@hubbardfan

2 жыл бұрын

@@pixels_per_inch yeah that makes more sense cause then you'd get more of that trailing effect... I always just set it to the shutter speed that matches the frame rate and then set iso to auto... Unless I'm in an unchanging condition then I will lock the iso to something I want...

I was very excited to switch, but I think I’m fine with my iPhone 11 Pro. Sony needs to hire (better) software guys.

Lok is NOT a robot? Shocked! I'm shocked!

Come on, increase your budget, get Lok a small tripod or stick for that rig 😀

I am disappointed in the camera blur on some of the shots and the focus jumping behind you. Not sure if you were selected to be the focus point or if you were and the camera is doing a poor job.

Sony's Xperia PRO-I Vlog Monitor Kit

hardware wise almost perfect. software wise still a lot to do sony

Super kamera!! Снимает натурально, цвета и контраст всё смотрится как видеть человеческий глаз., не как iPhone,:, делает искусственное фото и снимки...

Kai! Can you try test the Vivo x70 pro plus video features? I realized the jitter happens to most phone cams

high five

Good that you deleted it. Edit: Its the 13th, upload again!

great... unless you move

If this only had better image stabilizer it would be perfect

As the famous saying goes, the best camera is the one you have on you. I wouldn't take the Pro-I over most regular cameras of competing or larger sensor size. But I think the competition for this is more other smart phones. I'll always have one in my pocket, so would this photo/video better than an iPhone or pixel or Honor is the real question

@dolphin069

2 жыл бұрын

But it isn’t. No one is going to buy this over an iPhone 13 max pro for video. Sony are so weird. If they ever sort the software out and push support for more than a few months I’d start buying them again.

@lindsaywebb1904

2 жыл бұрын

@@dolphin069 agreed. For the price/promise it has to compete with premium compact cameras

@arcsephiroth

2 жыл бұрын

@@dolphin069 no one? Speak for yourself. I bought it. Cheap people can buy the cheap iPhone 13pro max for 1100$. 1800$ flagships aren't for iCheap sheeps. It's too expensive for you lot

@dolphin069

2 жыл бұрын

@@arcsephiroth why? You could buy a real camera with a decent lense and a one inch sensor for that money and It’s going to 40% in 6 months and they won’t update the software on it after 12 if you are lucky.

@DaRunningMan

2 жыл бұрын

@@dolphin069 "But it isn’t. No one is going to buy this over an iPhone 13 max pro for video. " I did. You need to get out of your bubble. Sony Xperia's smartphone cameras are the best because it keeps the integrity of the image as it doesn't ruin it with all that phony AI enhancement crap that all other smartphones like the iPhone does. I bought the Xperia Pro-I because I needed to upgrade my phone and at the same time I wanted a great camera. I didn't have money to buy a quality smartphone and a quality standalone camera. The Xperia Pro-I is two for one so that's what I got.

Use aircraft mode 😉

To prevent heat issue i think you should turn on the airplane mode and adjust the brightness to low level.

@JoeGillian0

2 жыл бұрын

Lol so basically make your phone unusable outside in daylight...great suggestion

@aliawr2570

2 жыл бұрын

@@JoeGillian0 why not? it's only when we shot a video for long time. i'm using xperia toi, i did it and everything is work perfectly.

@JoeGillian0

2 жыл бұрын

@@aliawr2570 well ok, what s a long time then because in the video they are saying it can go as low as 12mn...while other shot more than 60mn without problems. There was one occasion where my Xperia 1 II screen was not legible outside besides putting it a max brightness

Xperia 1 II is amazing, basically the same phone, I love mine but they really need to put a 20mp cam on. Next time

I went from loving the promises of this phone to praising the fact I didn't end up buying it. I watched quite a lot of the reviews so far and almost all the footage seems mushy, has focus issues, highlights are blown out, shadows are noisy, and that stabilisation jitter is just terrible. I was really disappointed. Then I took a step back and realised Sony pride themselves in using little to no computational photography in this phone, which in my opinion might very well be the key here. This kind of sensor and design has no chance in challenging situations (as evidenced by the ZV comparison at the end) without a great deal of AI help. The concept is great, but unless we use the phone in perfectly ideal lighting and other conditions, which in 99% of the time we will not, the results will be disappointing. At the end of the day I'd rather have a technically worse phone-camera that eventually yields better photos in everyday situations, and an actual camera to fiddle with if I want that kind of photographic quality. This phone seems to have wanted a piece of both worlds, and ended up not being very convincing at either of them. Or I just seriously misunderstood who this product wants to appeal to and it is definitely not me...

@lltechview

2 жыл бұрын

You watched my comparisons? I think it is doing quite well though definitely bot crushing the competition

@Lorkiant

2 жыл бұрын

@@lltechview Yes, and thank you for them, I really appreciate the effort you put into making those. But they only reinforced what I think about the Pro-I, especially after seeing the low-light examples. Credit where it's due, it's doing indeed quite well in its league, which I presume would be the barebones sensor-based images without any fancy software processing. But I feel that's where we were years ago and today it's simply not enough, especially since we have the tech to compensate for the inevitable shortcomings of that approach. In other words, I see no point in being a "purist" if that leads to the results being objectively worse.

@RRan-dk7ct

2 жыл бұрын

i said it struggled with focus for sure..it only is good in still subject videoing..... imho !!!!

@HSNG10

2 жыл бұрын

It seems western based youtubers are not using Pro-I properly. Take a look at the Chinese/Cantonese/Korean/Japanese based reviews. They tell a different story and their video/photo outcome is close to ZV-1 standard. kzread.info/dash/bejne/m3mnlrl8iNDcpaw.html&ab_channel=Paul%E9%87%8E%E5%A4%96%E6%94%9D%E5%BD%B1%E5%B8%AB kzread.info/dash/bejne/oHWexKiTZMuxhrw.html&ab_channel=FlashingDroid kzread.info/dash/bejne/iZilr7ivl7iwl7A.html&ab_channel=AUXOUT

@Lorkiant

2 жыл бұрын

@@HSNG10 I have seen all these before forming my opinion and honestly, not a single one managed to change my mind, as all my issues are still present if you look at them on anything larger than a smaller tablet. Then again, as I even initally tried to convey, I have since come to the realization that it is likely impossible to do any better with Sony's approach on a phone design due to the physical limitations. I used to own an APS-C camera and have a GoPro, they also have pretty much the same issues in the same conditions (except for the stabilization, I see no excuse there). That is precisely why other contemporary phones rely so heavily on the boost of computational photography, and give - to my eyes - significantly better results. I understand much of the whole concept behind this phone is exactly the lack of overdone software support, but the way I see it, that is also what holds it back from being the undisputed king of the mobile content creation landscape right now. Edit: I can also totally subscribe to the natural look argument and understand people who don't like the boosted sharpening or other forms of artificial look on videos or photos. It's just that I'd rather have a slightly artificial look than a very messy and mushy one (also i'ts easier to add grain or an unsharp mask to a too sterile-looking footage than it is to try and recover details that aren't there). It's a question of personal preference, I guess - I'm sure there will be plenty of people happy with the capabilities of this phone, it's just not for me.

Southhemispherians watching on 25 Dec: *confused whimpering and sweating*

Just got mine and I’d say just use an iPhone

I have the 1iii and I do enjoy it, the apps are fun to use and the Venice look is pretty. But goddamn ever since android 12, the whole phone has run like shite!

RoboLok 4:08 ^^

I am writing this on a Xperia Pro-i, and there is more that is just lacking. Im having problems with nfc, audio dropping from calls and the reason I got it: using it as a monitor with the included screen app (and a uvc adapter..). Just a shame it is really buggy, lacking features and in general not worth it.

@arcsephiroth

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah apparently there are many clowns who have this limited edition flagship 😂😂😂 B!itch please.

Jeeze Kingstons shops have gone down hill somewhat