This man is a living treasure of china, much respect.

@Livingtree32

3 жыл бұрын

Except he's virtually unknown in China. But I agree, he holds some real treasures in his gongfu. Japanese are lucky to have him.

It's the best demonstration I've seen so far, esp because you can hear his breathing.

I began to see the bridge between xingyi ground and standup fighting about 9 years into my training. My instructor told me to explore it and see where it led. In the end I developed a ton of ground fighting skills which are almost unmistakable from catch wrestling, judo, or BJJ. It's all based upon the core concepts of xingyi the pathways of power just change due to the fact that your stance shifts to the ground. I actually used this to devise a new way of teaching xingyi to students.

Very good performing. The one from the best in KZread.

its more a legend really that a xingyi and baqua master met and dueled for three days, stopping 3 times to debate chat whatnot. and that at the end of the third match, the baqua master won out but was so impressed by the narrow margin of his win and the masters character that he pledged to teach him ba qua and learn xing yi while the other man said the same. Hence some schools of xingyi and baqua have elements of each other within their arts.

for the MMA enthusiasts, actually xingyi quan is like many (most) other forms of traditional Chinese martial art in that it was developed for soldiers on the field who had lost their weapon and for bodyguards defending persons or things. Neither of these situations call for grappling someone to the ground as one was likely to be facing multiple armed opponents, or their friends may be able to get away with the VIP or treasure as the combatants rolled around. It was used to break joints, groin, windpipe and eyes especially as the opponents may be armored as well. The basic idea was to stay alive long enough to pick up a new weapon.

@tseidl

8 жыл бұрын

+Thomas Seidl Mr Viperman, sorry I somehow deleted your comment while trying to read the whole thing on my phone- my apologies, as your insights seemed intelligent and useful. I would like to read your comments if you would take the trouble to put them up again- sorry.

@diphyllum8180

8 жыл бұрын

Thomas Seidl I think I was clarifying that Xingyi techniques come out of weapons combat and aren't developed as an alternative, but as a way of using weapons which can also be applied (though somewhat differently) to unarmed fighting, usually with only minor modifications. For example, Tsuan is about twisting the spine and when being trained it alternates striking low and striking high. If you're unarmed, the low strike is probably a gut-shut; if you have a rifle and bayonet, the low strike will more likely target the groin or inner thigh; if you have a sword, it might go for the knee. This is because of how each weapon manifests the same underlying body mechanics. I think Xingyi makes a lot more sense if we think about it as primarily a battlefield art focusing on the use of cold weapons, and the unarmed techniques as an adaptation from that. This explains the differences in priorities it has to styles of pugilism which didn't evolve out of weapons fighting

@rodgerbane3825

2 жыл бұрын

Fine, but here is the problem with that, it was expected to be used by people who had a LOT of actual experience fighting. And here is the trap modern stylist get into: It's too vicious to spar but without actual experience against a non cooperative, resisting opponent there are an absolute host of essential fighting skills that can't be learned. Further if a fighting style is taught in a way that avoids actual REAL amounts of serious physical pressure (hitting, getting hit, actual grappling) there won't be possible to apply the techniques when things get real. Remember, the folks doing this stuff for the original reason had huge amounts of LIFE AND DEATH REAL WORLD FIGHTING EXPERENCE. Like many battles with handheld weapons, against people actually trying their best to kill them.

@rodgerbane3825

11 ай бұрын

@@goggles789 The best defense is being able to avoid conflict, to spot and avoid trouble. Absolutely right. The last thing any sane person should do is seek out street violence to "test". My point was, a lot of CMA evolved as actual battlefield arts. Done by people in actual wars.

Feng zheng Bao is my sifu he is really small but strong as hell! you wouldn't want it with this guy....... real gung fu

@Estudinho

4 жыл бұрын

Hello, is Mr Feng zhao Bao your Sifu? Would kindly share w me his contact please? Im from Peru and highly interested in Training w him. He is a real master

his skill in incredible. Makes me consider looking up a local master in this style that I know for lessons. My god the power is insane. Amazing.

this guy really displays the explosive power of xingyi. i bet he hits like a freaking train

I love this. Thanks for sharing it.

I study gao style bagua and my instructor told me that we need to be good at the basic linear, 8-directional forms (which is basically xingyi) to do ba gua properly. The reason being that these forms put a lot of attention into the static stances and their structure. The bagua stance is basically the xingyi stance but with the body twisted to the side.

Très très haut niveau...merci c'est un trésor de très grand savoir qui fait progresser.

Amazing. You can clearly see the internal power almost hydraulic pumping his incredibily fast and powerful strikes. Pretty amazing.

Well, from what I knew. Chinese Martial Arts mostly emphasize in training their strength in "Dantian"(or Tanden in Japanese) This is why their most basic training is how to stand in proper stance（such as santishi in xingyiquan). Their theory is once you have enough strength in Dantian, you can easily to resist the take down..

Anybody who dislikes this need to forget about martial arts and go learn how to knit. No offense to knitters LOL!

From what have I seen,TMA also have grappling and takedown. But most of them is brutal when executed in full speed. Take Xingyiquan Dragon form as example. A grappling on the arm to and a palm on your head to push you down plus a low kick your knee to at the same time. After you're on the ground, stomp on your head. I don't think this kind of move is legal in MMA, which create common misconception that TMA only have striking technique.

dag this is in japan no lie i know kung fu is every where but i wasent expecting them to practice the internal arts all that much

Very good content. Thanks for sharing : )

Xingyiquan is awesome

uno de los maestros mas aguerridos de la actualidad

Very interesting! It is said that Bagua is circles and XingYi lines. Beautiful and powerful.

that section from what I remember represents the synthesis of xing yi and baqua. the idea of all ba qua learning straight line xing yi, and all primary xingyi users learning circular ba qua.

Looks like his has a lot of power. nice . Edwin

Outstanding vid, great Xingyi! Thanks for posting it. Is the DVD still available?

Always good to watch this video after seeing something from that fraud Jake Mace!

@davidmartinez9804

7 жыл бұрын

Yes it's like the real medicine that you need to recover from that.

@emptyspace2346

7 жыл бұрын

That's disrespectful to frauds. He's more of a clown than a fraud.

@davidmartinez9804

7 жыл бұрын

I think I'd rather be sprayed with Mace then see a Jake Mace video.

@fangjian

5 жыл бұрын

lolz

@KenGullette

4 жыл бұрын

When I nearly died in the hospital, even though he had never met me, Jake Mace sent me a bag of herbs from his garden to help with my recovery. Regardless of his martial arts, he is a really good guy, and it wasn't really necessary to bring him up in relation to this great video, was it? I've known people who practiced higher quality arts who are so despicable as human beings, they aren't worthy to clean Jake's shoes.

Sweet flaming jesus. I don't know whether to be inspired, or to quit martial arts now knowing I'll never be at this level. God damn...

this is a very very good video. where do we get more preferebly in chinese or english.

thanks for that, i have noticed my muscles getting stronger since training xing yi movements fast and explosively but i can't imagine such training giving me larger arms. maybe the heavy weapon training would do it. anyway thanks for the info, i'm going to start looking into bagua now anyway.

holy crap. His Fajing is unlike anything I have seen.

Xingyiquan is one of the most powerful Chinese styles. It is developed in a way to defeat the enemy with a single blow. The great fighters used only one technique to defeat their opponents. The bodyguards of the emperors from the last two dynasties were all masters in Xingyiquan. In China they say "One year practitioner of Xingyi can kill". I train MMA too. This is not a martial art. I use it for conditioning and sparing.

@silafuyang8675

11 ай бұрын

@@goggles789 Lol, need better goggles.

@silafuyang8675

11 ай бұрын

@@goggles789 Why do you get online then? To hate? And if you do not take information here seriously, where do you get your "tall" information? TV? Books? or maybe you do not need information because you know everything? Not funny. Too sad.

@silafuyang8675

11 ай бұрын

@@goggles789 On the contrary, I got a lot of information from you.

Hi, Bastion! Shifu told me that, actually, many internal style schools teach all 3 major internal styles, and men learn them in this order: XingYi, BaGua, TaiJi. After that, in the Wudang system, they can learn a very advanced style called LiangYi, also known as TaiYi. I've also read that some monk created a style called LiuXing Quan, only for people who already know all 3 internal styles well. Still, I've never heard of the synthesis of XingYi and BaGua. Would you be kind to explain to me?

Also remember that a large number of internal masters trained in external arts for a period of time as well, and likely went through a good amount of muscular conditioning prior to practicing the internal styles.

this video is why mixed martial arts exists

yeah thanks for that. however, are there any videos available of a smaller master doing real fajin on someone larger.

was going to say nearly all the old legends of the style i know talk to two masters meeting, fighting and incorporating each others systems somewhere down the line .

so exactly what sort of muscle building are internal masters allowed to undertake without causing tension, can they do regular weights or do they have other means of developing muscle.

Sun dafa is in sydney there are some good masters there.

Yeah San Ti Shi and all the real stances do develope strong legs. Ive just started doing a alittle XingYiQuan and Ive noticed defferences in in my muscular build already.

In the first secondes, we can see the pièce of wood push into the earth!it is a real very strong power...

The last part of it is Baguazhang.

Bone, ligament, and tendon strength are developed by internal martial arts, as well as "secondary" muscle groups...but intense muscular conditioning is generally not advised to coincide with internal training, as it puts a lot of strain on the joints and can cause the student to try and muscle their way through techniques subconsciously. As for the size of some masters, there are plenty of smaller masters (Wang Ji Wu and Sun Lu Tang were both pretty small, and Sun Zhi Jun is as well).

Any Chinese martial art improved or modified by others, are usually better than the original one. No disrespect for Chinese. Just encouraging all.

@emanresu81 Xingyiliuhe is the named used by one branch of Xingyi for itself. It is a bit different from some of the others.

This looks like a bad ass teacher.

@SQNBM You're right about that for me but I'd like to understand this better as well.

@gespilk Being a Blue Belt in BJJ (Gracie School) I asked myself a similar question once when I approached an old school master. He told me to take him to the mat. I tried to take him down - one leg, two leg, and then finally I tried just picking him up off the floor. He stood there like a freakin stone statue with a big grin on his face. For the first time in my life I entertained the thought that against this guy my grappling and groundfighting skills were shit!

@rodgerbane3825

2 жыл бұрын

Some of the folks that learned the old, REAL traditional way with brutal basic Jibengong and lots of applied practice can be very formidable. Its almost impossible to run a successful, modern MONEY MAKING school teaching the old way because who's willing to pay to have you almost kill them? Also, a lot of the most effective, secret Jibengong can't be learned unless you start learning it pretty young.

How do you get the DVD?

im now learning this style and i think the last style was yan am i right?

interesting. Thanks for the comment. I suspect that your version may be closer to concrete or there were mulitiple duels with teachers of the same line *bows* Live well, train well.

Oh my, that is terrible, terrible news. Master Martello was of the few westerners that really understood the mechanics of Chinese MA. He and I just recently shared a couple of messages. Truly saddens me.

@jorgebeltran True, the closest thing to grappling techniques that can be used on the street is standing head chokes and arm locks but trying to take some down to the ground isn't a logical thing to do especially in real violent encounter. The context of the situation is everything when you want to use certain techniques.

If you have limited tine work on your Zhan Zhuang to develop rooting power. Once you learn to connect to the Earth everything makes more sense. That is what I have done trying to work on those same four arts you mentioned. :)

wow, that gongfu is great. explosive..

@davidmartinez9804

7 жыл бұрын

Yes real Kungfu is explosive :)

it's the most agressive "internal" style

the version i had learn both masters conceded to each other, Hsing I bowing to the Pa Qua's footwork and the Pa Qua master bowing to Hsing I explosive power. they then agreed to combine their art and teach it together allowing students to choice which art to lean toward.

Ya I had Sifu James McNeil (he's on youtube as well) do a push on me like that when I was young. I lifted off the ground and went back at least 3-4 feet after that. Not head into the wall but a gentle lift and push back. Ran into this guy years later in Irvine CA and said hello. He knows what he's doing trained many years in China with another Sifu I know Duke YM Cheng of Buena Park.

I would really like too learn Xingyiquan, but there isn't such thing around where i live.

I don't blame him. I *hate* getting hit with a beng quan. The last time I received a beng quan in the ribs in light sparring I bounced back 6 yards and was TKOed. :p

Man, I wish I could understand Japanese... What was the smacking/slapping sound I kept hearing when he was doing fa-jin? Was it his foot against the ground?

You need to take into consideration that internal martial arts strongly develop muscles and that some people might enjoy the occasional pie.

全是胳膊劲儿.

isn't circle walking a ba-gua practice?

Still confused, why would xingyi make its own version of circle walking? Which style did circle walking first? (I'm guessing Xingyi, because it's much older) Do you have any literature on this?

yeah thanks for that, mike martello was very powerful. i felt sad knowing someone so talented is now dead. anyway thanks.

I learned it the hard way. :) lol

I wonder if he is equally capable on the other side of his dan tien. I suppose there is always a lopsidedness, and perhaps it is unavoidable, and even not productive to resist it. Every body has a strong and a weak side.

Well, standing in San Ti Shi, and any othe real stance, would strongly develop muscles, the actual movements would as well. Doing a move like Beng over and over again, with lots of Fa Jing would most definatly develop muscles. and if the training incorporates weapons, then you have that as well, and the chinese are quite notorious for training with ridiculously sized weapons, suchas baguazhang's dao's and the like Train Big, Use Small ^^

that pi quan looks like it would knock heads off. damn.

Look up Mike Martello on here. He recently passed away but of smaller men against larger men I have seen few better.

Looks pretty hard to me.

has anyone ever noticed all these internal masters are extremely large, larger than the average man. doesn't that make it easier for them to fa jin and defeat everyone around them. i thought internal martial arts were supposed to be for the smaller guy but i have never seen one small master with convincing fajin or power. all their fajin demonstrations are on much smaller guys, look at bruce kumar, wang shu jin, hung i hsiang and the gompa guy.

Well, actually, it's more a Daoist practice than strictly Bagua, asa far as I've read, but I've only seen Bagua use it in its taolu.

Or so it appears He is actually moving with speed and suppleness being soft and being hard at the point of impact.

@SQNBM Amen.Just look at most of these misinformed comments based upon what their untrained eye sees as opposed to what they have LIVED.No one EXPERIENCES anything anymore,they are too busy playing video games.And think that is "real"

well nearly every school of baqua and xingyi have some overlapping, even mention in lineage adn legend. Always best to know both the straight line and the circle.

Lol, 0:38, is that how he treats his wife when they get busy? :p

This is the theory however it takes many years of practice to achieve this level of mastery. In defense of the MMA guys one would have to ask oneself if it was indeed practical, and for the guy who works 8-5 and trains two nights a week that is certainly a legitimate question. A common misconcetion is that Xingyi and other similar martial arts have no ground fighting. Xingyi does incorporate ground fighting but good luck in finding a practitioner that can and will show you those aspects.

@godlameroso I can assure you I have seen a fair few fat Bagua people too !

No, I haven't seen any videos of a small master "doing" fa jing on a big person lol

mma is mixed martial arts though

Er...I meant 6 feet. 6 yards is, what? 5.5 metres? :p

@gespilk A way to get off the armbar is to bite the leg ;) Still nobody uses jiu jitsu in the street, and this art wasn´t created to fight MMA fighters.

fuuuuuckkk...this guy is amazing.

Basically they learn lots of MMA fighting techniques while getting a smidgin of Xinyi power training one piece at a time instead of them just practicing santi and the 5 elements and scratching their head all the time.

@blackaiya2002

7 жыл бұрын

TakgeyonBlackbelt .

HAHAHAHAHHHHAHAH! i was saying the same!

Um, that's because China has been opening slowly to the world in the last ten years. Just because you have never heard of a style or master before, doesn't mean it's not good.

If someone did that, they would obviously be very foolish.

@gespilk personally I don't know anybody that cares about putting you into an armbar on the streets. it's kill or be killed out here, and I'll take an internal style over MMA anyday of the week when my life is on the line. no one fights fair where I'm from so all the getting out of chokes and armbars don't save you out here, now with that said.......you do learn how to evade such techniques when studying arts like these but you can't expect to see everything any style has in only 8 minute vids

Ощущение что ушу занимаются ущербные или обижкнные люди

He is true master, but i agree, why has he teaching the japanese? They will just end up using it against the chinese again.. like they always have .. ungrateful and disrespectful..

lol that's just wrong.

This is the martial arts of fatties, at least bagua has a cardio element to it. Although I will give some of the forms a fair amount of requisite flexibility.

Enough talk about fat martial artists. Wang Shu-Jin did bagua and xingyi and was pretty portly. And he could knock your ass across a room. Skill and eating habits have nothing to do with each other.

you clearly have 0% knowledge of Xingyiquan, what you have said are all basic techniques which would pose no problem to a Xingyi practitioner with even a little skill. MMA is a sport, Xingyiquan is a war art designed to kill. Totally different kettle of fish.

I dont think the xingyi cans wins mma and coulnt fighting UFC.just for healthy and perhaps its self-defense of basic for unknow fight people