In my mind XCOM plays out that after taking down EXALT, and the assault on the alien base to kill the Sectoid Commander. The Elders stage a massive attack on XCOM’s home base and successfully captures the Commander. This leads to almost all the research projects being completed, so all the unlocks in the Legacy Pack like the plasma weapons were already in production.

@MiskatonicMemorialist

2 жыл бұрын

I also really love the EXALT storyline. Same with Zhang, Annette and Meld. The "CANON", the Timelines, and the tiers of canon of XCOM are..... we'll say, interesting. Multi-verse theory is a monster in of itself.

@ChickenRieder

2 жыл бұрын

@@MiskatonicMemorialist the multi-verse would make save scumming canon

@FeCyrineu

2 жыл бұрын

​@@MiskatonicMemorialist Canonically, XCOM was never able to rescue Annete. According to XCOM: Chimera Squad, she was captured by the Elders and went insane after 20 years of captivity.

@ryudhal

2 жыл бұрын

@@FeCyrineu :(

@lei302

2 жыл бұрын

@@FeCyrineu wait really when did it state that, I always assumed that the developers stating that the volunteer survived the Victory ending confirmed that ending as canon

I remember the 90's original. Chryssalids were freaking scary. You could lose half your squad or worse in no time.

@botep5529

2 жыл бұрын

God. Yes. Something terrifying about how they looked and moved (even though the graphics were simple). Or showing up on a terror sight and seeing a civilian zombie and knowing they could be lurking anywhere. Scared the shit out of child me. Reavers as well. I still remember that reavers we're vulnerable to incinderary from their autopsy.

@kacknoobdeluxe

2 жыл бұрын

two words: Incendiary Grenadiers

@yankchef4067

2 жыл бұрын

Doing the alien ship invasion missions manually is what I miss most about the old games. Enemy unknown kept this to a certain extent, not like apocalypse tho

@spaceman8935

Жыл бұрын

I always remember, chryssalid mission = find a two story building, get everyone up stairs and blow up the stairs and just overwatch.

@twinodoom

Жыл бұрын

That hasn't changed.

The council didn't surrender, if you read stuff at command, it tells you they assaulted the base, captured the commander, and a few escaped.

@dj11o9er

7 ай бұрын

XCOM itself fell apart, but the Council and its nations pretty much all swore loyalty to the later formed ADVENT Coalition. All except the Spokesman.

@Skullhawk13

4 ай бұрын

@@dj11o9erspokesman swore loyalty too, he was just lying. “Oh yeah I love advent and aliens and man xcom sucks.” He says while conspiring against the idiots who don’t brain scan the quislings

Phoenix point might be a good idea to talk about since it has a lot of eldritch themes and is also a XCOM style game

@MiskatonicMemorialist

2 жыл бұрын

I'll keep that in mind.

Im not gonna lie, as much as I loved both games, im kinda salty about the weird lore continuity issues. Which battles actually happened? Which technologies and autopsies were actually uncovered? Which characters were actually real? These are the questions that keep me up at night.

@MiskatonicMemorialist

2 жыл бұрын

Saaaame.

@gregonasi8020

2 жыл бұрын

Yess

@suzhengchong2593

2 жыл бұрын

XCOM 2 is a what if scenario of XCOM failing to defeat the aliens.

@sectoid-with-internet-access

Жыл бұрын

@@suzhengchong2593 so theoretically, if the devs/creators of xcom one day suddenly decide that the cannon ending is that xcom successfully defeated aliens in the first game that would mean that xcom 2 is basically just a fever dream and not real

@suzhengchong2593

Жыл бұрын

@@sectoid-with-internet-access yes that's how it works

In my mind Xcom wasn’t the only group fighting nations armies fought along side Xcom Civilian militias likely formed but prob got wiped out badly

@deloreanrc

Жыл бұрын

Makes sense in all honesty. If the Raven could take out UFOs...why not a conventional Fighter/ why wouldn't Raven's be used by other Nations? If XCOM could reverse engineer alien tech to make new weapons...why couldn't other nations with far more resources and manpower than X-COM? XCOM would be teh main reaction force against the Invasion....but no way in hell any nation would just wait for XCOM to save them when they got plenty of guns and tanks and planes in which to drop a couple thousand Aliens. In my head, XCOM always took the vital missions; mostly involving going after powerful Alien weapons like Alien Battleships, which only XCOM's Firestorms could take on, and trying to local the Alien commanders to take out their leadership like the Sectoid Commander and the Elders. While XCOM did that....the rest of the world's Militaries were showing teh Eldar's invasion forces how they too can fight back, and just as harshly as XCOM can. And while I doubt the world Militaries got Plasma weapons to work...IRL we have been working on Lasers and railguns, I have no doubt at least ONE Nation had Laser or MAG weapons.

@warwolf3005

3 ай бұрын

It wasn't, we can see that pretty much in every source, even Volk's backstory, as he assembled a milita group and fought aliens in 2015, once fighting side by side by Bradford. Also it can be inferred that Earth militaries managed to get a number of UFO kills even, given that XCOM only shot down 2 UFOs during the invasion directly (Resurrection), and there's multiple UFO wrecks we find around the world, including at least 1 Battleship wreck the aliens lost (Battleship rumour), and at least one more likely was destroyed as part of the Battlefield rumour (the weird glow in the sky remains even 20 years ago, and origin of that can only be alien tech - the takeaway must be that the Battleship engaged was eliminated, leaving behind the tech to produce the weird lights)

While XCOM continued to fight after, from secondary facilities, such as the one where Shen completed the Spark project, the main hq is known to have been lost "Within a matter of weeks", with the Commander having been captured. This likely occured in late April, matching the timeframe needed for aliens to eliminate the threat from developed countries ("In less than two months' time, open hostilities between the aliens and Earth's forces ravaged much of the planet's developed world leaving the survivors desperate and alone."). By this point of course, it was all over, as without developed countires' industry there would be no way to contest aliens in the air.

I really liked your Darkest Dungeon, and now you're going on my favourite strategic game, i'm very excited !!

This needs like 50M views. I recently started playing XCOM 2 after watching my friend play it a bit I was super interested. 55 hours later and I still feel like I’m just a novice at the game, I lost my first campaign lol. I’ve fallen in love with xcom tho, setting up ambushes and wiping out an enemy squad in 1-2 turns, the trooper customization and getting attached to them, rebuilding the world network and actually feeling like you’re starting to push back advent. Xcom 2 is really a game I never knew I needed so much until I had it. I pray that an XCOM 3 is released sometime soon !

@FallingofftheGrid

Жыл бұрын

Oh boy, losing a campaign though… does that not put you off trying again? To have all that progress lost?

@XIsleTheWanderer

Жыл бұрын

XCom: Chimera Squadron is essentially XCom 3 :)

@MomJeans1738

Жыл бұрын

Hopefully Fireaxis will work on Xcom 3 after Midnight Suns comes out later this year

@Mario53415

Жыл бұрын

@@FallingofftheGrid not really, at least this loss didn’t. I didn’t make it very far on my very first campaign. The 55hours was my second attempt at the game

@justnick7691

Жыл бұрын

@@FallingofftheGrid Restartings part of the fun

The beginning felt like I was watching a trailer to the game. So freaking good mate.

I had no idea the project was established the year I was born. This was amazing. Will you include some characters from Chimera Squad as well? Verge apparently plays an important role in the invasion and the resistance. I’m excited to see where you go with this jumbled and fluid timeline.

@ShawndaPrawn

Жыл бұрын

I’ve heard about that too. Apparently, Verge’s role during the invasion was to manipulate Earth’s leaders into surrendering to the Ethereals (hell, maybe he’s the Sectoid we see controlling the Spokesman in the EU bad ending, seeing as how the XCOM 2 Sectoids were augmented with Human DNA). However, Verge apparently developed empathy for humanity, likely due to spending so much time in Human minds, and so became a mole within ADVENT, leaking information to the resistance.

Enjoyed all your DD content - looking forward to more XCOM!

Really liked your video! Keep going and i'm sure you'll get big numbers!

When the devs make a sequel just to tease you for failing the defense of the first game

@ShawndaPrawn

Жыл бұрын

Reminds me of 1d4chan’s summary of the events between games. “Remember that Legend difficulty Ironman campaign you started for a laugh? Yeah, that was canon.”

Great Content As usual man. Keep up the good work

Wait, so were going directly to xcom 2? Man i was really hoping to see more xcom eu and xcom ew lore and theories. But well when we talk about xcom, when do we get what we want? THATS XCOM BABY

@MiskatonicMemorialist

2 жыл бұрын

I was gonna get around to that. Different timelines, characters, groups etc. EW got me into XCOM so I always have a soft spot for its storylines.

@ledsanreplays8225

2 жыл бұрын

@@MiskatonicMemorialist Well thats only good news, the xcom timeline is such a mess, but a super fun and interesting one, im looking forward for more xcom content.

@MiskatonicMemorialist

2 жыл бұрын

Me too. And yeah this timeline is... Complicated. But a fascinating world.

This is cool, it autoplayed after I was replaying my own videos on my channel IX B for reference in conversation so I accidently came across it. But really great work on both summary and editing my friend

The Ancestor sold out XCOM's old base. Can't have shit in the Hamlet.

Perfectly done thank you

Hello from switzerland. Awesome lore content here.

If I run into the viper king 5 missions in one more time im breaking my switch in half.

Could we get a lore video on the aliens and the Ethereals controlling them?

@MiskatonicMemorialist

2 жыл бұрын

;)

@ShawndaPrawn

Жыл бұрын

Sadly, there might not be much there to go over. In XCOM 2, it’s revealed that all the aliens XCOM fought in the invasion and the occupation were themselves invaded and enslaved by the Ethereals long before coming to Earth. Judging by how much they took to Human culture after the collapse of ADVENT, it doesn’t look like much of their own cultures survived.

I want an XCOM and EDF collaboration.

@AwoofyAnimates

2 жыл бұрын

Ok before someone replies EDF stands for earth defence force.

@ShawndaPrawn

Жыл бұрын

XCOM: okay, let’s try to be careful about this. Stay in cover, engage the enemy where possible, but try to be at least somewhat professional about it. EDF: we saw a couple of spiders, so we called in an air strike. Yes, we had to collapse that skyscraper, it was in the way!

@shadowsintox9

Жыл бұрын

@@ShawndaPrawn E-D-F

Really smart use of cutscenes.

more lore please love it!

jesus christ the quality. I mean this quality is on par with channels over 10x the size, maybe even 50x. The only issues I can really say I even noticed were minor pacing and VA oddities.

XCOM 3 XCOM 3 XCOM 3!

Ever dug deeper into the lore of the original two games? Like the Ethereals, Sectoids... the city of Rleh and the ctulhu-looking dreamer-alien?

For your next video, could we do a deep dive into these new Human-Alien hybrids? Are Human-Alien Hybrid boobs magical devices of mind control, the same way that human boobs are? Is it possible to do a bikini parade of the hybrids?

In canon it only took 2 months for humanity to fail?? I would have accept 5 years or even 3, but 2months, thats not even half playthrouth

@MiskatonicMemorialist

2 жыл бұрын

Yup. That's the official timeline. Didn't even get past conventional firearms. It's stated that the aliens went full blitzkrieg and overwhelmed the earth.

@ShawndaPrawn

Жыл бұрын

@@MiskatonicMemorialist damn. I liked to think they managed to take down the Temple Ship, but got roflstomped by the second wave afterwards.

It’s been proven by science! Xcom is in fact the best game ever made!

I hope they redo xcom early invasion storyline with better graphics

Would you like to know more? Yes No

Id love to know the alien lore

[Darn. I thought it was about the Last City's.... [releases a breath of relief]]

kinda sux that I did the temple ship mission but its not canon

Study up on Kennedy Initiative called "excom" :D

XCOM3 빨리 나오면 좋겠다

Pls more xcom

The term ufo is played out.

im a quite late, but i just finish x-com: enemy within and not just never had the mission of annette, but i dont like at all the fact that winning the game it snot cannon. I mean, they could have made the base defense mission the last one, you win that, resist the attack, but after that another one comes and x-com its not ready, still licking their wounds and commander taken, end of the game, scinematic, The end...or make the countries leave x-com like as part of the game and that leads to the events of x-com 2(wich i played before the 1 xD). I dont know, i just dont like winning a game an have an ending that its not canon, it bothers me and needed to spit it out xD

so from what i can tell the canon is that you lost the first game, personally i would have liked it if you actually won it in canon, but all you did was defeat the vangaurd and the rest of the invasion arrived shortly after the big ships destruction.

wait didnt we win xcom1

@rootbeersaint4411

2 жыл бұрын

Sure did, in the simulation...

@twinodoom

Жыл бұрын

Only in XCOM 1.

Only to mounths? Ok

@matthewjones39

10 ай бұрын

What?

@satanamogila9251

4 ай бұрын

​@@matthewjones39Only to mounths? Ok

@matthewjones39

4 ай бұрын

@@satanamogila9251 ok

My man needs a script editor.

XCOM 2 is ass

Xcom 2 was an alternate reality. It wasn't a sequel.