12 seconds is a hell of a time-save

@Mashruz

8 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@charliesnotsafe

8 ай бұрын

Agreed. These old consoles work perfectly fine besides menu / gameplay slow down as they age but being able to elimage that makws them feel like brand new

@kylegibson5933

Ай бұрын

It's also makes the console start quicker and more efficient, the Menu becomes snappier and responsive and also helps load in gameplay quicker. Not just a time saver.

With SSDs, remember you want to get an SSD with a DRAM cache. If you get an SSD without this cache you won't really notice a difference compared to a normal HDD. This DRAM cache is needed to buffer longer writes/reads on the SATA bus and to maintain the higher speeds the SSD can offer. Cheaper quality SSDs without this DRAM cache will seem great at first, but if there is ever an extended read or write operation it will turn into a slog slower than a regular HDD. Also note that if you are getting an SSD for the Xbox One, make sure it's a SATA3(III) SSD as they do still sell SATA1 and SATA2 SSDs that just can't reach the speeds you want from a drive you are going to throw into your Xbox. You also cant use an NVME SSD in something like the Xbox One as that requires a PCIe connection which the Xbox One is not providing for the hard drive. The other thing to is every console game is going to use virtual memory and this is on your hard drive that is then cycled into and out of active memory when and if it's needed. With an SSD, you will see vastly, I mean vastly, better performance in a variety of scenarios when virtual memory is used. This will lead to much less stuttering among a host of other improvements such a texture loading etc. You also want this SSD to be internal and not connected to the console via a USB port. This will add a bunch of unnecessary overhead to that connection. Hope this helps someone.

@pathfindercast

Ай бұрын

Nice explanation. Thanks

@Learner-Driver-With-a-Mazda

27 күн бұрын

That is 100% correct I have 10 Tbs in my pc. 2 M.2 drives on my motherboard and 4 Ssds in the back it's getting on 5 years old now and I put it up to the task of load times compared to the ps5 I had at the time it was around 7 to 10 seconds quicker than my ps5 at the time sadly I don't own the console anymore I couldn't stomach it so I gave to a friend who wanted one 😊

They need to launch the new consoles in a few years here with a 2tb SSD anything less is not enough storage in my opinion

@pathfindercast

6 ай бұрын

Especially since xbox requires physical games to "install" on the drive. Also with the rumors of going all digital, larger drives will me needed even more.

@cqllel5186

Ай бұрын

As a PC gamer, I don't even take up half of a terabyte, barely a quarter with all the games I got. I'm not the type that downloads my entire library, tho 2TB is overkill, but for those who bloat their storage with games they'll never play and/or only play bloated games like CoD, I guess 2TB would be fine As someone who owns a console, I REFUSE to buy digital. I recommend AVOIDING digital copies at all cost. Your games will be stuck on that platform, you'll never get your money back, and you'll be left with "backwards compatibility" bs and/or port begging your console manufacturer overlords, just to rebuy them as remasters PC is the only legitimate platform, especially for non-exclusives. Once you own a game, you own it forever

@WyattOShea

Ай бұрын

@@cqllel5186 Then there's me installing most of my stuff and still not having enough storage with 6tb worth of ssds 😂.

@cqllel5186

Ай бұрын

@@WyattOShea Dambbb. Why so mamy games lol? There's not actually a lot of games that surpass 100gb

@WyattOShea

Ай бұрын

@@cqllel5186 Haha I only have 7 installed currently that are 100gb or more and many that are either near that or are at least 50gb in size. I also have over 600 games on steam according to steam itself but don't have anywhere near that many installed. I'm just weird I guess 😂.

Added a 2Tb SSD to my Xbox one X and read dead 2 saved me about 43 seconds in loading and Forza horizon 5 took my HDD 3ish minutes for a completed saved file but on the SSD it saved me about a minute and a half

@Emmanuel-xc3nn

4 ай бұрын

Totally. I upgraded my Xbox one x to an internal SSD two years ago and I’m so glad I did. I still think it runs so well.

This was a really helpful video! I installed a similar drive and the difference is stunning overall. The way that it woke up my tired v1 XBOne is clear. Menus, in particular, and load times on open world games... it's a lot. Cleaning it up inside helps a lot too :)

@pathfindercast

2 ай бұрын

That's awesome to see. Thanks for the comment.

Dang thank you so much for this video. I would totally would have done the same to see if there’s a difference and if I could upgrade the internal ssd.

WIsh I could do this to a 360. Great video!

@jjcd94

6 ай бұрын

the problem with that its the xbox 360 dosent support ssd without rgh

@oOignignoktOo1

Ай бұрын

@@jjcd94 Even if it did the HDD is still bogged by a sata 1 bus so you're capping at 150mb/s anyways Most modern mechanical HDD's are capable of hitting those speeds so paying a premium on an SSD is not worth it for a xbox 360. MIcrosoft really should've had a final update to allow users to format their own HDDs internally especially now as the consoles are getting old and HDD's are dying.

I'm considering doing this to my Xbox One. I don't really care much for the newest and biggest in videogames these days so I'll likely only be playing Halo and Hitman, but they take up almost all my space. Having a large enough internal drive that also makes the console and games load a little bit faster, even if it's only 10-15 seconds, is a good enough upgrade for me! And a reason to clean it's internals after 8 years of use. I wonder if there are more (simple)mods to do while I'm already thinking of opening it up...

@maxswayy3497

6 ай бұрын

I just recently bought a External 500gb SSD for my original Xbox one , and it's way better with how smooth it runs and the load times on red dead , forza horizon 4, warzone and far cry 5 is better

@1337million

5 ай бұрын

@@maxswayy3497 I've used an external SSD for playing movies through my Xbox and it really does work fast! Nice to know that also applies to games!

this is a great video, answered a question I didn't know I had lol

@pathfindercast

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment.

Thank you

Hello fellow Arizonan! I also got an. Xbox One, I got one for 50$ working and all.

@pathfindercast

3 ай бұрын

Cheers! ☀

Yup. One of those capacitors is a bulger. 😕 Nice to put in an SSD though to cut the amount of moving parts you have to worry about. 🙂

Did this to my Xbox One X. Upgraded to an internal SSD and wow. What a difference. That was two years ago and I bought the series X controller. I did own a series x but I sold it since I had a ps5 and the one x runs so well still. I watched this video to see if it was worth upgrading my girls OG Xbox one to an internal SSD for her. Might just get her to upgrade though.

@pathfindercast

4 ай бұрын

Nice! I have the Series S, so I use my Xbox One for the disc based games. I'm also waiting to see if M$ is going to a mid-generation refresh or not.

That battlefield 2042 on game pass on this🔥, The one X has 4k just in case with the Xbox one Kinect port which makes the Xbox way better Kinect support on a lot of games like Battlefield 4

@pathfindercast

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the recommendation. I wanted to try some additional Kinect games.

@shaggytoph

4 ай бұрын

what does kinect do?

@wallstreet2909

2 ай бұрын

@@pathfindercast hey man would you be willing to do a upgrade on my console? I would happily pay you.

@pathfindercast

2 ай бұрын

Hi @@wallstreet2909 , thanks for the offer. I am not setup to do upgrades/mods for others. I like to play around with the consoles as a hobby, but not interested in turning it into something more than that right now.

I use krynoaut grizzle thermal paste. It's a premium thermal paste, but a really good thermal paste for conductivity and longevity. The original xbox one has SATA Il. While the xbox one x\s has SATA lll. So you'll be able to fully utilize 600mb read and write speeds with SATA lll SSDs on the xbox one x/s. It would be interesting to get a xbox one s and put the same SATA lll SSD in it, and compare it to this xbox one to see if there is any real difference in load times between SATA ll vs SATA lll on these consoles.

@pathfindercast

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the recommendations. I'll check out the thermal paste. That is good to information about the xbox one x/s. If I come across one, I may try that test comparison.

@DeadlyDragon935

7 ай бұрын

@@pathfindercastdont use it its designed for setting records so its longevity is very bad. Used it on a 13600k and within 3 months temps rose 10 degrees celcius.

@jfsps15

6 ай бұрын

​@@DeadlyDragon935the mx4 is a good option, right?

@izidororaziel4918

2 ай бұрын

@@jfsps15 that´s the one I use, on Xbox One and Xbox One X

was the lexar ssd d-ram less ssds without dram chache are slower then ones with dram

Noctua is my favorite thermal paste seems to be a few degrees lower and the best power supply is actually a 203w fat 360 power supply with one of them 5 dollar Xbox 360 to Xbox One AC Adapter thing will outlast everything and gives it a little extra power overhead also im pretty shure fat xb1 used SATA 2 which limits it to 300MB/s the one-s used sata 3 tho which could double it also external hdds can have a advantage because they do not have to load the operating system also.

I might I suggest some way of trying to use a newer M.2 NVMe drive to see what the performance is like? Maybe there's some kind of adapter to make it work.

Wonder if this would give a performance increase in games like party animals or cyberpunk which stress xone to huge drops. Party animals has built in fps counter you can overlay in game, would love to see if you get a slight increase in fps on it?

Did u check to see if the ssd has dram. Then it will slow down as the drive fills up. Dramless drives are extremely slow for boot drives but is perfect for game storage drive

@pathfindercast

8 ай бұрын

Interesting point. I did not check if it has DRAM when I purchased, it but the drive I used was a Lexar NS100. I did a little research and the SSD controller is the 88NV1120 Artemis from Marvell, a DRAM cache is not available. Is that good?

@bryanwages3518

8 ай бұрын

@pathfindercast yea you looking for a dram cache. Without the cache the ssd can slow down as slow as a hard drive. That's why they are not recommended for boot drives. They are perfect for game storage drives though. Linus tech tips has a video on why that are not good for boot drives and explains why they slow down. Basically cheap ssds won't have the cache. I'd buy a Samsung drive or a sk hynix drive. You should also fill the drive up and redo the speed test to see if it slows down.

A bit late. The disc drive issue is likely an issue with the front touch cable being torn, or the board not being fully reconnected properly.

I kind of want to do this, I know nothing about thermal paste, though. How do I remove the old crap and how much new paste should I put

@alexarnold6773

8 ай бұрын

There are many videos on yt detailing how but I like the spread the paste like an extremely thin layer of butter over the entire die then do a conservative x pattern

@pathfindercast

8 ай бұрын

I usually can get the cpu pretty clean with isopropyl alcohol and q-tips. If it's really dried out I may use a tiny amount of de-solv-it on a q-tip. For applying new thermal paste, a little bit goes a long way, and I apply a dab about the size of a small grain of rice.

My day one launch has a 3 min green boot screen. I think the hdd is dying gta takes about 5 mins to load

Do you have to do anything to the empty drive before you put it in?

@pathfindercast

4 ай бұрын

I installed the drive directly into the Xbox one straight from the packaging. The Xbox will boot up with an error which is why the firmware has to be on a USB drive.

The boot time is the worse part of xbox one

@pathfindercast

2 ай бұрын

I just bought a copy of The Division on disc at a thrift store so I booted up my xbone today. It still does take a long time to boot up even with SSD.

@Bakedea87

25 күн бұрын

Sometimes that means the power supply needs replacing. I recently had an Xbox one being slower than usual on start up and the power supply did eventually die on me.

@mrlopez7173

25 күн бұрын

@@pathfindercast it's a shame xbox one not even that bad .my xbox360 boots faster

In my opinion the ssd is worth it ,if you don't plan to upgrade yet to next gen

SSD speeds may not be a huge difference compared to the HDD but the in-game textures and assets will load in way faster and smoother and the whole system will feel snappier overall.

Are save games automatically backed up? Or do you have to back them up manually?

@pathfindercast

6 күн бұрын

Yes they are backed if you're connected to Xbox live.

well it is almost 10 year old now

I slapped a SSD into my One S. Worth it.

This is actually showing us all why we actually get slapped so hard playing warzone on Xbox one og’s lol

Was the external drive hdd or SSD?

@pathfindercast

6 ай бұрын

I used an external usb 3.0 hdd.

Toshiba usb drive? Is it hdd or ssd? Or just a thumb drive

@xKuruh

3 ай бұрын

I was thinking the same thing it must have been a ssd

Back when I had my original Xbox One, I used an external SSD. It was night and day compared to the original drive.

@oOignignoktOo1

Ай бұрын

On an OG xbox one the external USB 3.0 port believe it or not has a higher bandwidth bus than the Sata II port internally build into the console. Though later model Xbox Ones ( non launch VCR style ) all have Sata III buses instead of Sata II so you could get much faster speeds off SSD.

Nasty i go to...😊

I miss the old days where we had an external power brick so if it stopped working, all you had to do was buy a replacement online instead of taking console apart and replacing the internal power supply

if he sells the game, he already made his profit back XD

Is the Xbox one using SATA3 or SATA2?

@pathfindercast

Ай бұрын

It's SATA2, hence the USB 3.0 is able to perform better in some cases.

2:29 APU, not CPU

you should try and do the same with a 360 and try to optimize it as much to make it the ultimate 360 😮

@Trains-With-Shane

7 ай бұрын

If using the newer 360 slim console the upgrade is super simple. And using an SSD, despite the 360 having an older SATA interface, does improve performance due to the faster random reads. I upgraded mine to a 1tb SSD just a week ago.

@Arska2

6 ай бұрын

​@@Trains-With-Shane Can you actually use ssd as internal memory in retail console? I have been told that the xbox doesn't let you do that.

Can we upgrade SSD in Xbox 360 also ?

@DeadlyDragon935

7 ай бұрын

Why would you want to do that in the first place? Even with an ssd all other parts are slow af.

@arunprajapatikumhar8229

7 ай бұрын

@@DeadlyDragon935 I have moded Xbox 360 slim thats why I am asking

@Trains-With-Shane

7 ай бұрын

@@tenchotenchev5606That is incorrect. You can upgrade the internal disk in a stock system as well. It's just a slightly different procedure than if you have an RGH or JTAG mod.

@Trains-With-Shane

7 ай бұрын

@@arunprajapatikumhar8229you certainly can and it's easy. A quick search will come up with results. I used MrMario's tutorial on my RGH3 Trinity console.

The speed differences on the Xbox 360 between using a disc, HDD, or SSD are heavily influenced by whether the console is modded or unmodded. On an unmodded console, games run faster when played directly from the disc because they rely on the disc for data and the HDD or SSD mainly for saving game progress. However, on a modded console, you can copy game files from the disc to the console's storage. This allows games to be played without needing the disc for DRM checks, resulting in potentially smoother and faster gameplay when using the HDD or SSD. Modding the console provides a clearer comparison of disc speed versus HDD or SSD performance because it eliminates the disc's role beyond initial verification. In essence, modding can significantly affect how games perform on the Xbox 360 by allowing them to bypass disc-based limitations and utilize the faster read speeds of HDDs or SSDs for gameplay. I WROTE THIS! AND I REGRET I! I think I know why Xbox 360 was the fastest. So on Xbox One you need to install games to run them so it only needs DISC to read DRM and for Xbox 360 it is similar but it doesn't need you to install the DISC onto the console. You can but it won't reply on the SSD/HDD until you do install the games from the DISC to the console then it uses that. So if you don't install the games them self from unmodded Xbox 360 from the install method Xbox allows which rarely games don't support, you will rely on the DISC to play the game which can introduce issues like scratched spots on the DISC causing corruption on save files which is rare but possible so always if you can rely on the hard drive but sometimes relying on DISC is better somehow on very scratchy copies meanwhile some people may experience less stutters and issues relying on disc or hdd. I can't really say at this point my comment is a mess so I'll just summarize: if you run a game on its disc its gonna be faster than a HDD or SSD because it is relyed on and the only thing game is being played by and the only process the hard drives are doing is saving the game and progress and profiles pictures and achivements etc. But because IT does introduce explotiablity Xbox One for privacy reasons NEEDs DRM checks and many of them. That's why Xbox One is slowest and unhackable unless you make it offline only etc which ruins the point of it. And I think some games or most you can't even install without DISC being verified by a DRM service by Xbox One or Microsoft. I am unsure. About the Xbox 360 chapter. I'd like to address the reasons why it happened to be that SSD and HDD was slower. It was mainly due to you not using a modded console. If you'd used a modded Xbox 360 you'd know that running a game while disc is in it and game isn't installed partially or fully makes it signfically slower as it relies on reading the disc but only uses HDD or SSD for saving data. You could lbe better off comparing them three which you are techically only compaing DISC to HDD to SSD rather than being internal from my understanding. And another point is if you are installing via what Xbox 360 allows then it only reads the disc casually and randomly to check if the game's disc is still there and that your running an authetic copy of that game currently running. So in short if you had a modded console and you copied over the files from the DISC that you own and eject the DISC and play the game on the modded console you'd see that its way faster with the HDD and SSD as it doesn't read DRMs or checks just plays the files. But I don't know if your into that kind of stuff like modding consoles. But from my experience it is like that! Sorry for this messy comment!

an Xbox One X benefits more of an SSD because it supports SATAIII interface and plus the CPU is faster anyway.

Could i just clone the old drive

Don't forget to copy the Xbox one boot animation from the hdd to the sdd

@Emmanuel-xc3nn

4 ай бұрын

True. Or if not it’ll install the boot animation after it it updates to new firmware again.

Considering the scale of GTA 5, I assume the SSD becomes more notable the bigger the game is compared to smaller games.

How the hell did we ever put up with such long load times?! O_o; Anyway. I've got an Xbox One S that's gathering dust. I'm tempted to replace the hard drive, since the old drive was too small and slow, but it's kind of pointless to bother with it now that I've got a Series S.

I put 2tb western digital ssd on my xbox one s

@Tizzypj

Ай бұрын

How I got a 1t western dig not sure if it’s a ssd tho I’ll get some more info on it but Xbox og wont even find that lol

It's an upgrade, I guess, but who is still using an Xbox one original in 2024 it's so underpowered I have the limited edition advanced warfare console planning to keep it maybe ut would go up in value

Why do you need to disrespect the disk like that? Multiple times too man. My soul…

Soooo.... just get a large external ssd. Thanks for the experiments! Lol

this console is bottlenecked extremely by the slow sata that was used I wish we could upgrade the wifi in these too

10 DORAR!!!

External SSD should be significantly faster than an External HDD.

@pathfindercast

Ай бұрын

I agree, that makes sense that it would be.

Wow. That’s a dirty console!

@pathfindercast

8 ай бұрын

i agree. It was a lot of dust. I don't think it was in a smokers house either.

best things about an ssd it will last a bit longer than a hard drive

@cqllel5186

Ай бұрын

SSDs are better than HDDs, but they do not last nearly as long as HDDs

@mightygamerjames

Ай бұрын

@@cqllel5186 I had hard disk drives fail on me more than a solid state

@cqllel5186

Ай бұрын

@@mightygamerjames HDDs have longer lifespans. They hold more data and they're ideal for storage purposes. Although, SSDs are now pretty close to HDDs in lifespan these days

to be honest 12second is a lot of time saved

Lol mine came with a 1tb hdd put it in my ps3 and put a 256gb ssd in my xbox

@3dd2.

Ай бұрын

Dam there's software that let's you clone your hdd yes made for xbox

xbox one lol

Even if you put the SSD in it you still can’t play Xbox series X games

@MAYANK_SINGH696

4 ай бұрын

You seem to be dumb as shit..... We are upgrading it to load game faster and boot early 🤠

@randykoger4646

4 ай бұрын

No one stated you could.

@stevestars2966

4 ай бұрын

@@randykoger4646Well that’s the reason people want to use the SSD so it’s possible to play next gen games on the Xbox one X that’s why he posted this video he tried and he failed so it’s a waste of money to even put the SSD into the Xbox one if you can’t play Xbox series X your better off buying the Series x instead

@itsandyfs

2 ай бұрын

@@stevestars2966huh?

@samanthagriffinv2.08

Ай бұрын

No one said you could the reason people want to do this is to load in their current games faster or boot up the Xbox faster like you could on you pc

I got probably about 30 games I found inside wii u consoles I bought to flip hahaha