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@sladewilson9741

24 күн бұрын

So like, you want us to pay a subscription for monthly content. Will you raise your prices? You provide anything? Will you make it worse?

@princegroove

24 күн бұрын

No, thanks!

@josephteller9715

23 күн бұрын

About discs... a lot more folks are not playing on a desktop pc but on a laptop, and laptops are now not coming with disc drives....

@Angeldust19800

22 күн бұрын

Don't know if you are aware of this, but in Gamepass Core are free to play games like among us in the 25 Games, so even less value

I upgraded my Game Pass subscription to cancelled. I'm tired of being the frog in the slowly heating pot.

@pupkevicius1

24 күн бұрын

Overreaction

@mistersalesman

24 күн бұрын

@@pupkevicius1 Having to pay to play online has already become a joke. Having to pay more for the same privilege is making ME the joke. It's not an overreaction.

@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it

24 күн бұрын

@@mistersalesman you pay to watch tv shows and movies. you pay to listen to music. you dont want to pay to play games? it is an overraction since the prices are not even this high for the catalog they offer in XGP. 3x bigger catalog than in ps plus

@WolfyRagnarok

24 күн бұрын

I'm letting my PSN subscription expire in August, myself. None of these services or modern games really have my interest anymore. There are enough fun games on SNES/PS1/etc to keep me entertained for a lifetime, and I'm not subjected to the multitude of issues with modern gaming.

@WolfyRagnarok

24 күн бұрын

@LuFlame-os3bd I certainly advocate for people to spend their money as they see fit, and if you're having an enjoyable time on PC then good on you. For myself, I can't see that fixing things I feel are problems. Online-only, mtx-ridden, bug-infested games seem far too common these days, along with not actually owning your games, games being permanently in "early access" phases, spyware, and many other issues have simply driven me away from it all. I bought a copy of Secret of Evermore (SNES) last week, and I'm having a wonderful time playing through it again.

Remember when we were all outraged that XBox Live had a yearly fee at all? Because PC games were already online for free? Hey remember how Sony had that as a big selling point, that their PSN was completely free on PS3 while 360 kept charging? Remember how upset people got when the PS4 had Sony decide to copy Microsoft because hey the 360 was selling pretty well with that fee in place. Yeah, and you know how, in point of fact, online play on the PS3 is STILL free to this day? And also, outside of MMOs, PC games ALSO don't require a yearly fee to work online? It's almost as if the costs of hosting online services DON'T require that yearly fee and it was always just a way to scrape a little more off the top. Keep that in mind now that they're increasing the cost of basic online play along with their Gamepass service that many subscribers don't want to pay for just to play the games they bought outright online.

@Yoshi278

24 күн бұрын

PSN requiring a monthly fee is what got me to start PC gaming back in the day lol

@AutismIsUnstoppable

24 күн бұрын

Ps3 psn had basically no social features. There's a reason it was free.

@Oatlis

23 күн бұрын

​@@AutismIsUnstoppable wdym

@Dark_Jaguar

23 күн бұрын

@@AutismIsUnstoppable If you're talking about party chat, no, that's not "why it was free". That's a simple backend matter to be solved in code. As evidence this isn't why it was free, the XBox 360 didn't party chat for a good long time, but it was charging that fee from the start. From Software's Chromehounds even had a unique mechanic that required a unit with an antenna array to be in range to enable voice chat, and you could get an advantage by destroying the enemy's communication unit. From Software simply killed off their online functionality in the game when MS brought in Party Chat, because it completely destroyed the balance of the game. Don't make up excuses for these fees. We don't need to rush to corporate defense.

@joshuakern1274

23 күн бұрын

You need the online service for matchmaking and anti-cheat. Ninety nine percent of the network traffic is peer-to-peer, my console talks to your console. It's always been a lie that they needed to charge for it.

Don't worry in a few years you will have to pay double again

@custos3249

24 күн бұрын

*Sony has left the chat

@DataScienceDIY

24 күн бұрын

For food and shelter, or just games?

@whysoserious4274

24 күн бұрын

That’s the trick Slowly increasing that price One dollar or two every few years so no one bats an eye that they’re literally siphoning more money from you as the years go on. This should be illegal but unfortunately it isn’t We probably can’t stop it from happening but what people can do is save themselves Get out now

@jazzdirt

24 күн бұрын

Have to??? No! I won't even go along with this proposal... Also I kicked MS to the curb even for OS already.... 🐧

@nackedsnake1

24 күн бұрын

In a few years? GP just raised the price for the 2nd time this year lol.

Solution: play PC, wishlist games, and buy them on sale. Most games are buggy af on launch nowadays anyway

@brycedery9596

22 күн бұрын

^The way to gaming nibbana. I'm a fellow practioner and it works.

@fabolousjada5070

15 күн бұрын

Sony sales is off the chain too and have a better catalog imo I got steam too but hmmm pc genres aren’t for me payed 2500$ 3 years ago for nothing unless I want to play old RPGs

@pmc1727

14 күн бұрын

My 6 year old copy of monster hunter world is a banger and since I last played it 6 years ago it seems brand new to me.

Maybe...if they did not close successful studio, they will have more games to draw in more players.

@SpottedHares

24 күн бұрын

What sort of heresy are you spreading?

@TheRogueWolf

24 күн бұрын

Oh, so you're going to tell us that not closing small studios that made award-winning games would solve the problem of not having small studios that make award-winning games. You'll _never_ be a corporate executive with _that_ mindset!

@jazzdirt

24 күн бұрын

@@TheRogueWolf Isn't that exactly the problem

@thegregomy1824

24 күн бұрын

@@TheRogueWolfno one can stop me if i stop myself type shi

@bandanna2388

23 күн бұрын

As much as I loved Tango Gameworks and Hi Fi Rush…they were not a successful studio in terms of financials. Every game they released (except Evil Within 1 and maybe Hi Fi Rush) was a flop…

Aaaannd the other shoe drops. Consolidation of corps is a helluva dangerous drug fellas. Not even once.

@garykelley9027

23 күн бұрын

All those Xbox stans though on how great and necessary this merger was though! And how it's not really a monopoly so nobody should've gotten in the way... etc etc ad infinitum.

@kentoreifang4884

23 күн бұрын

People tried to tell them. And right before CoD drops, of course.

@nerdock4747

22 күн бұрын

"We have no plans to increase the price for gamepass [for12wholemonths], no it'll be $15 for a long time" >_>

Makes sense that Xbox goes full subscription nightmare and will constantly raise the price. Like you mentioned, the playerbase there is already conditioned to not buy games anymore. In the end, it will end like it has with TV streaming. Constant squeeze of the customers for the almighty shareholders. The line must go up!

as some one who collects video games, subscribing to this kind of service feels pointless to me

@samuelfrank4787

24 күн бұрын

Yep. Microsoft has been hawking game pass at me for years at this point. I pay for online multiplayer and I'm thinking of cancelling that because I play online on PS5. My series x is my single player machine mostly.

@NihongoWakannai

24 күн бұрын

I got to play 120 hours of persona 5 for $10, it was a pretty good deal.

@TordanPidgesater

24 күн бұрын

Yes building a physical collection which serves as a store of value is a better deal than subscribing to a service just so you can be obligated to play games you arent willing to buy.

@rundown132

24 күн бұрын

Unless you're buying physical copies you're not collecting anything

@immortaldragon7980

24 күн бұрын

Fr, between Steam and PSN I have probably 70% of the games games pass offers, Gamespass it's only worth it if you are kid or someone with literally no game library, for ppl with decent libraries gamepass it's pointless.

Cancelled my Ultimate subscription. Honestly I barely used my xbox anyway at this point as I play everything on my PC now.

I'm tired of paying more for less

@cherryrook8684

24 күн бұрын

"You will own nothing and you will be happy"

@tkraft1442

24 күн бұрын

Paying more for less? Don't u get new games on game pass?

@ArkonBlade

24 күн бұрын

exactly MS games are pure trash any ways not even worth it for .99 cents a month they have pretty much ruined all their franchises any ways

@Mejustme101

24 күн бұрын

@@cherryrook8684 The people who said that will have their time soon.

@Shikmusik

24 күн бұрын

More for less?? It'd cost you over a £1000 to play the games you'd play /get with game pass.. All for about £200 a year..

They're failing since the Xbox One reveal.

@memazov6601

24 күн бұрын

Yar matey seems like we have to sail the seven seas

@idontcare6662

24 күн бұрын

True, the only thing they did right in the past decade IS game pass. Just about everything else has been shite

@JohnSmith-xq1pz

24 күн бұрын

DRMbox One

@thatguy1080

24 күн бұрын

People often blame Don Mattrick, and he has indeed completely tanked Xbox's reputation with the Xbox One reveal, but it's been a crappy console in the decade since. Phil Spencer is NOT the savior people thought he was.

@MagitekBahamuto

24 күн бұрын

They went downhill since the kinect!!

i support the price model of, if buying isnt owning, pirating isnt stealing

@shayanali8771

24 күн бұрын

Fitgirl for the win

@jiggerypokery2962

24 күн бұрын

Just because it isn't theft doesn't make it legal or morally right. If everyone follows your lead and it leads to the collapse of the industry your methods aren't good.

@SmallScarl

24 күн бұрын

Great rebutal. Did chatgpt write that for you?

@justadood6329

24 күн бұрын

@@jiggerypokery2962when companies with over billions are involved, their morals are probably out the window first. So honestly, you shouldn’t care. Boohoo the rich companies are losing money 😭

@jiggerypokery2962

24 күн бұрын

@@justadood6329 I'm not worried about rich companies money. I'm worried about games getting made that I derive value from.

Perfect example, of how Microsoft would ruin Steam if they bought it.

I got two years of Gamepass with my xbox. I didn't renew after that. I'm going to cancel my daughter's ultimate sub and just buy her the games she wants since it's increasing. On the rare occasion she plays online I'll get her a single month. I play online console games mostly on Playstation, so it's no real loss for me.

@Paradox-es3bl

24 күн бұрын

Everything I've played online recently has been stuff like Smite or Warframe that I don't even need PS+ for... it's been years since I had a subscription.

@kapixniecapix3869

24 күн бұрын

​@@Paradox-es3blI never buyed an online game for console so even on free weeks with multiplayer I dont have games to test it. I would feel like a looser paying for multi access to game that I bought. Multi is on pc only.

@КГБКолДжорджКостанца

24 күн бұрын

There is XDefiant which you don't even need online to play and I'd rather just have physical media games

@pjisleta1994

23 күн бұрын

same here

@ZigUncut

23 күн бұрын

Or go PC and never pay to go online.

I have Game Pass Ultimate until October and won't be renewing due to the price increase. I'd rather just save money to buy good games and own them at this point.

@Paradox-es3bl

24 күн бұрын

If you buy digital, you don't even remotely own them, anyway. They can just pull your license. Technically, I'm pretty sure a disc only gives you the license, too, and they can do a recall like they did for Too Human... but if you don't send in the disc for them to destroy... hey, I think Too Human still works on my 360 lol. (I'm not the one who bought it. I don't have the disc. But last I knew, my father's ex's son still had a working disc. The game is still playable, since it wasn't "online-only" I think.)

@Kimfakkel

24 күн бұрын

@@Paradox-es3bl Its called GOG and where i buy my games. id pay that little more they cost for me to dl the installer and own tha game.

@cooliongaming8992

24 күн бұрын

Everything is going digital now, physical disc doesn't even help with owning it, just the a box with a picture of the game. Need better ways to preserve games digitally like emulation

@ChelleyMadison

24 күн бұрын

@@Paradox-es3bl I haven't lost one digital game in my steam library in 20 years.

@j_dun4830

24 күн бұрын

So starting in October is the greatest 3 months in GP history - I dunno man, gamer IQ has to be at an all time low. COD, Indiana Jones, Stalker 2, Avowed = $280 GP Ultimate through Oct 2025 = $240 The idiocy is mind boggling, even if Xbox releases no games on GP for the 1st 9months of 2025, line absolutely nothing you're still winning.

There's no such thing as a free lunch. With game pass, you own nothing and you pay indefinitely.

@dusermiginte4647

21 күн бұрын

We pay for the right to play 800+ games.. Digital/physical= you pay for the right to play the game. You dont own it.

@salata716

7 күн бұрын

with paying for games without game pass. you still dont own tham. but with paying for the game you get a lifetime license to a game. its still better but you still not own any of your games.

Gamepass is fantastic value for a specific type of consumer. The issue is that their hubris has lead them to believe that it's the defacto be-all-end-all of choices. A lot of customers only play the same handful of games and for these, there's no value in Gamepass. Gamepass is more value to the sorts of people who spend most of their free time gaming and want access to a lot of games, which they can beat and move onto the next. This is not actually what the majority of gamers do. They expect Gamepass to work like Netflix, but very few people using Netflix just use it to watch the same movie over and over.

@dusermiginte4647

21 күн бұрын

But if you buy the movie you watch it over and over again or what?

@Cantimule

21 күн бұрын

@@dusermiginte4647 That's why DVD and blu-ray sales continue to nosedive.

@dusermiginte4647

21 күн бұрын

@@Cantimule yep.. Blockbusters vs Netflix.

The days of free PS3 online is a distant memory now sighs

Wow xboi fanbox's sure got screwed this generation if they went all in..

sorry, but everyone who didn't see this coming from miles away and thought the gamepass would stay at the price it initially was is just an idiot...

@Henbot

24 күн бұрын

More naivety then idiocy, after my experience with stadia shutdown. Ain’t ever going to use game streaming ever again

@dragonriderabens9761

24 күн бұрын

yep and the price increase isn't even that bad saying it is double is a stretch at best, and an outright lie at worst (I'm personally leaning towards "deceptive and misleading") meanwhile, when Sony not only increased the price of PS+ by quite a bit more, but also increased the price of the consoles, the media was almost silent oh, and that doesn't even get into how Xbox is actually adding value for the price hike, something PS+ utterly failed at

@alostcause4035

24 күн бұрын

It already wasnt at its initial price. Xbox just raised gamepass prices last year. This is yet another price increase.

@5GTrevor

24 күн бұрын

so are grown men with anime avatars.

@JamailvanWestering

24 күн бұрын

@@5GTrevorno, more people that didn’t expect this would happen

Also I might add not as much growth and increasing price are two things that typically would done in opposite scenarios. No as much growth? Lower the price a little. A lot of growth? Increase the price a little and make the excuse that it's to benefit server capacity for games.

@MoonLitChild

24 күн бұрын

You're not thinking like a stock holder! / sarcasm Greedflation is all the rage if you have an ROI goal to hit🙄

I canceled my sub over the tango game works closure. I just don't believe they ha e a vision any more.

@Fabierien

22 күн бұрын

@MrSpiritstealer that vision is fine, they couldn't make ground. I meant their vision for games. I don't know where gamepass is going. I didn't even play the Tango game but it ticked all of their stated goals and they still shuttered it while keeping The Initiative and 343 around that have been, from a management standpoint, a shitshow. That is a lack of vision to me as a consumer.

@bradams1854

22 күн бұрын

@@Fabierien Don't forget Bethesda and their newest hit, Emptyfield: Loading Screen Edition. I think Xbox lives in a reverse dimension, where they bank on the worst games, while immediately discarding the best. Or maybe its like Adam Sandler and his friends, where the strat is, who cares how good the movies are, just include the same 5 people in every movie and consumers will still give them money and they can share it amongst each other, so there's no reason to put forth any effort. Phil Spencer is apparently close to Bonnie Ross and Todd Howard, which is why despite both of them heading studios that make games that are colossal failures, he keeps them around, but fired Tango for giving them their one and only banger. Head of Tango must not have been close enough to Phil Spencer to be worth keeping in their little money circle.

@Fabierien

22 күн бұрын

@bradams1854 The decisions definitely don't make sense from the outside and that's bad messaging. Especially not when they go do a townhall the next day and say they need more projects like the one they just shut down.

If they double the price and 30% of people leave, they still make a profit. I keep my Xbox because of my library I've created over the years. I have switched to PC. While it has its problems, I don't have to pay extra to use the internet I'm already paying for.

@LeMicronaut

23 күн бұрын

Can also benefit from not having to replace poorly designed and tested peripherals every 6 months-year.

@everyone1liesd459

21 күн бұрын

Busy switching over to pc too Great discounts from epic games and free games from epic and the high seas Just beats console nonsense and stick drift stuff I'm so sad I was a sony fool 😂

Im unsubbing - ill buy game by game in the future :-)

@pupkevicius1

24 күн бұрын

Nice grammar

@SubiKinubi

24 күн бұрын

Yes, I refuse to pay an extra $2 a month, I’m much happier paying 30-120 for every game I buy from here on out

@C2190

24 күн бұрын

@@SubiKinubishocker people rather own games instead of subscribing to a service for it

@SubiKinubi

24 күн бұрын

@@C2190 nobody tell him you don't own anything if its digitally downloaded...they can just turn it off

@superccmw

24 күн бұрын

Yeah i only use it to play old games but i dont need them 🤷‍♂️ they aint getting my money

Yar matey seems like we have to sail the seven seas for this one yipieee

@Mark-sd4hv

24 күн бұрын

And PC gamers wonder why they have to port beg

@kentoreifang4884

23 күн бұрын

@@Mark-sd4hv As long as the console players keep their cheeks lubed for the corpos, PC gamers will be fine.

Ahh good, can't wait to pay a sub to play a store masquerading as a game. Quality games are a needle in a haystack in the AAA space.

@Mark-sd4hv

24 күн бұрын

Not really. Just look for the word "Nintendo" and you get top tier games. If you haven't figured that out yet, that's a you problem

@bradams1854

22 күн бұрын

@@Mark-sd4hv Because the 2-3 single player games a year that Nintendo drops should be all anybody ever needs right? Like, I enjoy Nintendo as much as the next guy, but being single player, generally level/story driven games, they have no replay value, so unless you only have 100 hours in an entire year to play video games, Nintendo alone isn't gonna last you.

They were hoping to freeze out the competition, but the lure of paying for good games outweighed that of paying to get access to few new games

In other words it’s the consumers fault that they’re not spending more money.

@Narangarath

22 күн бұрын

No, no, you misunderstood. It's the consumers' fault that their business model is unprofitable.

15-year veteran of gold then game pass ultimate, was already toying with the idea of giving up on X Box entirely and this has made the decision easy. I might consider switching to PC game pass only, but they would have to have better offerings then they currently do.

@buddybleeyes

24 күн бұрын

What most people do on pc is buy the odd game or two, and then when the summer/winter sale comes round- spend a tonne on great games. It's a shame you just missed a steam summer sale. They run loads of smaller sales all year round though. Imo, pc game pass still sucks- my reasoning is the games rotating off mid playthrough means you have to buy the game anyway... so why not just buy the game on a decent sale- I end up getting more out of it :)

@dakota9821

24 күн бұрын

Don't buy the PC pass; The MSoft store is terrible, you get next to nothing for your money... and that's if the game even downloads correctly and doesn't fail at 100%. The MSoft store uses the winupdate framework to distribute it's games and it shows: It was never designed for downloading games.

@Yoshi278

24 күн бұрын

Between GOG and Steam sales, bundle sites like humble bundle and giveaways, its pretty easy to play frugal on PC.

@AutismIsUnstoppable

24 күн бұрын

It's a waste of money. Like others have said, steam sales, gog and humble bundle are going to be cheaper in the long run.

@LeMicronaut

23 күн бұрын

​@@buddybleeyesis the summer sale still the steepest discounts? I feel like you can find similar deals on steam about every month or two now, just won't be the ENTIRE platform, or your seasonal sitewide sales are about every 3 months.

Honestly it feels like all subscriptions inevitably go from "best deal in (insert media)" to paying more for far less all the while artists are getting screwed over. I don't think I'll ever buy into Game Pass, I plan to just stick to buying my games on Steam, or buying physically for console.

Word is 90% of Game Pass subscribers are on Ultimate. So, they will be paying an 18% increase. The people that are on Game Pass Console are not having an increase and can stay grandfathered in. Who is paying double?

I canceled it 3 months after it started on PC because I wasn't into buying DLC for games I don't own. It was clearly an abusive service designed to hurt customers.

I just ordered a Steam Deck. I'm sick of consoles. Going back to my better library. Might not be as pretty, and I'm okay with that. Got a PS5, and X1 soon going up for sale. Sick of consoles!

@melonelon7590

24 күн бұрын

Wise choice.

@Ultecpo

24 күн бұрын

Good luck with hackers lmao

@pian-0g445

24 күн бұрын

@@Ultecponot a big deal with most modern titles. Console had the same issue with older titles no longer supported like on pc

@urracojalpa4481

24 күн бұрын

Welcome to not owning your games. With consoles (except Xbox) at least you own your games, you can play them without internet AND you can resell them.

@j_dun4830

24 күн бұрын

@@melonelon7590wise choice - Steam Deck is cool but not for playing on a big screen unless you're a fan of 💩 resolution.

I only had Gamepass for online multiplayer in Forza Horizon 4... Now that FH4 is being delisted, I don't need to buy Gamepass anymore. My subscription ends in August, and I am not renewing.

You should keep the volume of the video at the same rate as it was when you started the ad.

Now Xbox Game Pass is on par With Playstation Plus.

Isn't the standard "beyond all reasonable doubt" only applied in criminal court cases? I think that's what guy from Legal Eagles said. In administrative cases the burden of proof requires the jury to consider it to be "more likely than not" or something along those lines. *Not a legal advice

So what's better the old way or this new way so you go the old way and pay 70 to 120 just for 1 game or pay 15 to 25 and get to play more games? Then just buying 1 game

@urracojalpa4481

24 күн бұрын

LOL, who pays 120, and why? To get the game a couple of days early? Those are certified suckers.

@dillyduncs

24 күн бұрын

The old way. You get to own the games you actually like, and not play the 95% garbage that nobody wants anyway.

What is the name of the theme running behind, i could see myself working while listening to it, tx

Hmmm do the pre paid game pass ultimate codes expire after a specific time period if not used?

@kentoreifang4884

23 күн бұрын

I did a test and used one 4 or 5 months after I bought

im not buying games for my xbox lmao its just not happening. I will buy on pc, switch, or ps(physical) only.

@pjisleta1994

23 күн бұрын

well ps+switch+pc = best combo

@bandanna2388

23 күн бұрын

@@pjisleta1994not even. 90% of PS games are on pc. So it’s more like PC+Switch which is the best combo

@pjisleta1994

23 күн бұрын

@@bandanna2388 well true thou but u have to wait for 2 to 3 or even 4 years if u want to play ps games.... gotta ask nixxes devs for that

I always used Microsoft reward points to pay for ultimate. They cancelled that now starting August 1st. I might have paid twice a year if I didn’t have enough points. Now I will pay 0 times a year😂.

So I won't be able to play Call of Duty and other games on PC game pass on day one?

@jasonschumacher7414

12 күн бұрын

only if you have ultimate.

I’m staying, because of all the money I save not buying all these games I want to play separately. Also staying for the discounts I get on those games I want to own. If you find yourself only playing 1-3 New release AAA games all year, it’s not worth it. As soon as you say you play 4 or more new AAA games a year, it instantly becomes worth it.

Provide me something i want as opposed to manufactured need, ill buy it.

So, they found out the business model is just wrong? Shocking!!

I've been on the Ultimate tier for game pass since its release. I was using the 3x Xbox Gold 12 month subs and a single 1 month of Ultimate to upgrade, since the shift to from gold to core I've been wondering how I would deal with this on my next reset. Since there is no 12 month GP Ultimate bundle and now this no stacking thing, I'm looking to the base online service and just buying the games I want to play day one along with purchasing random games during the sales aslong as the discount on the game is above 60%

I've always preferred buying the game out right. Game pass have never been a go to for me personally. The only reason I find game pass kind of helpful is it saves me from buying the same game across multiple console platforms for my kids. But clearly that's going out the window now.

What will happen in the future when the server goes down with your library full of games?

@First_Chapter

24 күн бұрын

Or the internet is taken down during international conflict...

I came to PC to get away from paying the mob fee. They can go pick up pennies if they need cash.

I gave up on Xbox a while ago. The value wasn’t there with game pass for me. I don’t even turn on the Xbox anymore. I just stick to pc and Nintendo now. Xbox lost its appeal and value for me and I don’t see myself going back to the console.

Their strategies for making money on this subscription service confuses me. So far their plans have been: -Spend Billions acquiring studios that are only making failing games that nobody likes such as Overwatch 2 and Diablo 4. -Close studios that make good games that draw people to gamepass and only keep studios that make terrible games that nobody would buy gamepass to play. -Increase the price of their service that only offers terrible games because they closed all the studios that make good games. No wonder I can't be a CEO. I'm just not stupid enough.

PC user here, and I love Gabe Pass

Imagine being in the current day and age, and paying to play a game online.... As a PC player, it seems wrong to me. But maybe that is the deal you make when you buy a console at cost.

@urracojalpa4481

24 күн бұрын

Also, with consoles (except Xbox) you have true 100% unlimited ownership of your games. It's another tradeoff. I would love to pass on PC but I can't renounce my game ownership.

didn't you thumbnail say double?

The PC option will change eventually. Corpo answer is always price hikes never making the product better.

a corporation lied to make more money? shock! horror!

The new price hike in South Africa is the same price as a Netflix sub. I guess this changes perspective from country to country. But 10 Euros a month for ultimate in my country is totally worth it, as I'll try stuff like COD which I would never buy as a stand alone game. The main complaint is the quality of the content of the game pass. I'd rather pay a fraction of the price to try the full games on day one and cancel whenever I want than what I spend 80 to 100 dollars on something that's garbage. Looking at you Ubisoft.

@DaPASTRY

24 күн бұрын

Hadn't looked at console title prices in a while, when the hell did we start hitting R1500+?

@tkraft1442

24 күн бұрын

240 dollars per year is less than my food per month cost. People bi**h about anything. I mean this was a known thing it would happen... In the Xbox community. Plus who wouldn't see it coming? Do people believe sub cost on any platform stays the same? Not defending I wish everything was at same original price or free but we don't live that type of world. People QQ and still sub on Netflix, Spotify, youtube, onlyfans, twitch.. donates...

@urracojalpa4481

24 күн бұрын

​@@tkraft1442People are not smart. Why do I need to pay Sony or Microsoft a monthly revenue for essentially doing nothing? I just buy my own games and I might even resell them when I'm finished/if I don't like them.

@First_Chapter

24 күн бұрын

Since free-to-try demos are rare, deciding whether to buy or not now comes down to watching streamers play the game for enough hours to see the reality versus the launch hype.

There's no way I'm paying $20 for one month of Game pass ultimate! THIS IS RIDICULOUS!

I canceled my Game Pass Ultimate shortly before these price hikes due to Microsofts recent corpo bullshit. I feel so vindicated after the price hike since that would have caused me to cancel anyways

I quit PC game pass. There is absolutely nothing Microsoft is offering that is worth it. I'm jaded from the absolute trash content they've put out.

@5GTrevor

24 күн бұрын

thats your opinion. its $12 and there is enough to be worth it for many.

@Kidblurr02

24 күн бұрын

@5GTrevor That not opinion. That fact. There is nothing worth playing on PC game pass except for maybe Diablo 4.

@17craigers

24 күн бұрын

You right, if they were putting out bangers once every 3 months it would be worth it. Now it’s gonna be cheaper to just buy Doom and Gears

@Aggrofool

24 күн бұрын

They actually got a fkton of good games but I'm just not motivated to play them

@ulycination978

24 күн бұрын

@@Aggrofool I know, often I see something interesting that I plan to play down the line and before I do, they pull it from Game Pass.

Game pass has always felt scammy to me. First time I tried it, I thought it was pretty damn good. At least until I realized I didn’t have access to the DLCs of the games I was playing on it. So I would have to purchase the DLCs to play them on a game that I didn’t actually own that could at any time be shuffled out of the catalogue, thus leaving me with DLC for a game I didn’t own. Felt REAL dumb to me. After that point I only used it to test if I wanted to own a game. Did it with Starfield and dodged a bullet there. But now they’re locking the day one access behind more money? Nah I’m good I’ll just go play indi titles on steam and pick up the occasion Triple A trash during a sale.

@First_Chapter

24 күн бұрын

Agree 100% with you.

It's crazy to me that game publishers seem to think it's a good thing to play a new release within the first few weeks. Like when was the last game that released in a finished, polished, or even playable state? They completely forgot they have to make good things for us to experience FOMO.

Cancelled my subscription as well. Honestly I barely used it anyway and would rather just own games.

The wildest thing is bumping Xbox Gold, a 20 year long bar standard of $60 a year up to $75. It essentially confirms that not even tradition is safe from the grimey hands of Microsoft

I think $20 a month is worth it for the amount of content The problem I have with it is for every month that I have subscription game services, I’m not buying those games. So if I want to play a game months from now when I don’t have the subscription anymore, I will have to either re-subscribe or buy the game And when the service inevitably shuts down one day, there goes all “my” games

Its hilarious that your sponsor part is really more loud than the rest

Didn't they just raise gamepass last year?

Their plan hasn’t failed all they’re doing is raising their prices just before they add all the call of duty games. they’re going to make tons of money because instead of buying the game game pass.

Yar-har, fiddle-dee-dee. Being a pirate is alright to be! Do what you want 'cause a pirate is free; YOU ARE A PIRATE!

@joshallen128

24 күн бұрын

you cant pirate on xbox one or pirate an xbox one or xbox whatever these days

@aznhomig

24 күн бұрын

​@@joshallen128lol, imagine being a console pleb

@mf--

24 күн бұрын

Also, we are blessed by GOG

@joshallen128

24 күн бұрын

@@aznhomig hey you owned nothing when you are born you'll leave with nothing when you pass.

@aznhomig

24 күн бұрын

@@joshallen128 cope harder

on pc microsoft wanted 35 quid a month for gamepass so I never bother to sign up to it as its more than I spend on games a month any how.

This does it for me. I was so on board for staying with ultimate. Now I've just reduced it and will continue to reduce it. If it comes down to not having gold.. I'll go to PC.

How many times do companies have to do this exploit for regulators to realize it? Every damn time. Start at a low price. Get everyone hooked. Establish your product as the top choice. And then raise prices, so you can actually make money. This is so bad for the market.

The irony is that Game Pass was already rubbish, so Xbox making it worse like this simply adds insult to injury.

@christonchev9762

23 күн бұрын

rubbish but i bet 100% u were a subscriber to it

@bandanna2388

23 күн бұрын

@@frankkent5567 how was it ever rubbish lol? Even with this minor price increase, it’s still incredible value. This service is amazing for people who have just gotten into gaming or people who are completionists and want to play as many games as possible. Saying gamepass was rubbish from the beginning doesn’t sound like a well informed opinion at all and more like a fanboy riding the “Xbox bad” bandwagon to sound cool.

@dusermiginte4647

21 күн бұрын

​@@christonchev9762no he isnt, he is a super poony with zero clues of what he is talking about.

At this point, just building a PC is just building up your library over time is just cheaper in the long run

Netflix Raising prices and removing the cheapest tier Apex removes free BP and makes everything worse And now Xbox I'm so tired of these corporations 😐

The best advertisement for Steam anyone ever did. Now people that canceled Gamepass over this will need a store to buy the games they want. They will remember how Microsoft treated them and move over to Steam. Steam is a juggernaut in PC gaming for a damned good reason. So even Microsoft will have to accept the fact that for most of their game sales going forward they are going to have to give Gabe his cut.

who the fuck is paying double? they upped it by $2 per month

@Jamies-gz7ix

24 күн бұрын

🤡🤡

@hypnomouse4906

24 күн бұрын

it's for a year, and it looks like UK if i was paying attention correctly

@condemnedwarrior5029

24 күн бұрын

Yeah we have gone from 14.99 to 19.99

@jazzdirt

24 күн бұрын

If you want the same features it's from 9,99 to 19,99 so that's as good as double..

@urracojalpa4481

24 күн бұрын

There have been two (or more) price hikes, in case you missed it. The cost went from 9.99 to 19.99 for the same exact stuff. Videogame prices went from $60 in 2005 to 70 dollars today, that's an 11.5% increase in around 20 years, while game pass increased by 100% in just a few years.

Queue the music lads. 'Yoho Yoho, a pirates life for me'.

I am a Premium User up in Canada, but come September it will have become officially unjustifiable. Truth be told I hadn't upgraded the Xbox since the One series and have since moved to the PC at a time VR & Augmented reality have finally become viable propositions. While I have used the PC portion (I used Game Pass to check out some titles) I get free PC games on a regular basis enough to keep me busy, not to mention the number of sales. While I'll definitely keep my account and I may come back years down the road, I'm just as happy to meet my friends on cross-play right now. Xbox wants to charge me more for hosting a server where they sell copies of software that they can technically sell for the next 70+ years for profit. When Amazon increased my subscription that at least was paying for a gentleman to drive his gas-guzzling van to my home a couple of times a month for free. Heck of a difference.

Gamepass is trash. I cancelled after a year of only one big game on the service a couple years ago.

@Strait7050

24 күн бұрын

As someone who has used it for 4 years I strongly disagree.

@mwdavis77

24 күн бұрын

@@Strait7050 You're opinion is subjective, and so is mine, because everyone has different tastes. I felt like it is trash, but you and many other I'm sure, think it's great. I wouldn't pay for Gamepass unless it was $5 a month.

@Strait7050

24 күн бұрын

@@mwdavis77 Ik I'm just saying

@dusermiginte4647

21 күн бұрын

Lol, Ive been subbing to Game Pass since launch and youre lying..

@mwdavis77

21 күн бұрын

@@dusermiginte4647 nope. I think it’s trash, it’s subjective opinion.

Ditched consoles during the 8th gen and went PC. Hands down the best decision I've ever made. Console gaming is an absolute scam lol...

From the business side, I wonder what the goal was since xbox didn't have the same demand and popularity like Nintendo and PlayStation. Their initial growth population in no way would've created a good environment for big games, unless they planned on having hundreds of millions of subscribers

@LeMicronaut

23 күн бұрын

I mean, they TRIED to convince everyone it was a no brainer, good deal.

so hows focusing on DIE working out for xbox....

@paulshawn3345

24 күн бұрын

How's it working out for PlayStation

Cancelled my game pass today when I heard

$20 bucks a month? No thank you. Time to get a new gaming PC!

The fact US/UK allows consolidations of that magnitude is just silly.

Ultimate still, worth every penny.

23 years of failure woo hoo go Xbox 😂

@dusermiginte4647

21 күн бұрын

Is that why they went from owning 22 game studios to 15 game studios and lost 1/3 company value in a year... Oh no, thats sony.. 😂

Yeah I'm on Ultimate but I'm cancelling it before the price hike, just isn't worth it.

@dusermiginte4647

21 күн бұрын

They raising it by coffe at starbucks / month.. Its for all the games from Activision and Blizzard and maybe get more games from 3rd party devs to Game Pass.. They paid about $1B for 3rd party games 2023.. Maybe they aim to get more, bigger games on Game Pass day 1.

Just a thought, but I'm more inclined to buy a game once the various patches and updates/DLC are completed. Maybe selling a physical edition at the end of the run that requires no downloads or internet connection to just play?

The cool thing about game pass: It offers games that you wouldn’t dare purchase. The thing that sucks about game pass: It offers games that you wouldn’t dare purchase.

@joshallen128

24 күн бұрын

like renting from redbox or blockbuster or gamefly

"We gambled and messed up, now you need to pay for it." -The nepotism motto.

@TheSolMike

24 күн бұрын

That has nothing to do with Nepotism.

@sean7221

24 күн бұрын

You're right, it's jewish

@StAjoraGames

24 күн бұрын

@@TheSolMike Spoiled people put into positions where their mistakes cost the company egregious amounts of money which they don't know how to come back from because they have no idea how to earn it back aside from passing the bill onto others. Sure sounds like the fallout of nepotism to me.

@dusermiginte4647

21 күн бұрын

​What mistakes?

I finally left Xbox, got a steam deck instead. I'm finally enjoying games again, and without the limited catalogue and extra monthly fees. I use the steam deck mostly in desktop mode, and can play more of what I actually like.

PC Game Pass subscritor here. I detest Nvidia App logins but I couldn't resist getting 3 months of Game Pass for a login. I'm podering if I should keep up subscribed or not after this deal expires. It depends on the new price/month in Brazil.

Gotta love the Morbillion IQ move of making the greatest gaming subscribtion twice as expensive when the price was the main reason to subscribe to begin with! Was not subbed before and won't sub any time soon.

I always saw game pass as a deal that was going to be good right up until it isn't.

Had Gamepass purely because one game that was purely multiplayer (Destiny 2) demanded it to even fire-up the game. Quitting Destiny 2 removed that need. Subscriptions are a bad thing. Circumstances change. If playing a game relies on being able to afford a monthly fee for the game and a monthly fee for broadband, because it connects to servers, then the game is gone and unplayable if times are hard financially and those payments have to stop. A physical game, whether that's a hardware cartridge for an old console or a disk for a PC, that plays entirely offline is a different story. So, for me, the rule is "no subscriptions".

@colinmac4298

23 күн бұрын

Just incase you didn't know Destiny 2 is a free to play game and free to play games don't require gamepass to play multiplayer.

@First_Chapter

23 күн бұрын

@@colinmac4298 Has this just changed? Last time I tried to play the game it refused to start, prompting me to 'fix' the issue by buying Gamepass...

@colinmac4298

22 күн бұрын

@First_Chapter no idea how long it has been free to play but you get most campaigns upto a certain point. I still have gamepass for console so bought lightfall for £12 although I see it's £8.24 with gamepass just now.. add ons are usually priced pretty good except the really new stuff. Hope this info helps you to give it ago again.

Wait manor lords is on game pass??