Xbox Elite Series 2 After 1 Year: Did Microsoft Fix The Durability Issues?

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I've had the Elite Series 2 for just over a year and part of the reason why I didn't do a review back when I got it is that I wanted to see if Microsoft had fixed some of the durability issues that plagued the first one. In this video, I'll go over what changed, what Microsoft did to remedy some of the problems users reported and whether they were enough to make for a more solid controller.
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  • @alexphophi2893
    @alexphophi28932 жыл бұрын

    Dropped my controller to the point where I hear something loose inside of the controller. I did have a bumper issue but fixed it by gently smashing it.

  • @alexphophi2893

    @alexphophi2893

    2 жыл бұрын

    Update: stick drift arrived. Sticks are loose.

  • @StvnLntz

    @StvnLntz

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@alexphophi2893 how long you have it for ?

  • @hypeninja4786

    @hypeninja4786

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@alexphophi2893 if the sticks are loose, that isn't stick drift

  • @jordanharnell5052

    @jordanharnell5052

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wdym by gently smashing?? Explain how you fixed the bumper issue

  • @awallerfamily

    @awallerfamily

    2 жыл бұрын

    Warranty for these are the shit. Send it back. And accidental damage warranty isnworth it when. Bundle with the x

  • @matickills789
    @matickills7892 жыл бұрын

    It's crazy to see how many people(included me) have issues with the RB not working or eventually stop registering and even the rattling sound in the control as well. Luckily for me that's all my issues in the first one my second one has right stick drift very minor, pretty easy to control but both of them have the same small top of the rubber next the RB sticking out and not gonna lie it has me super paranoid

  • @GentleM-ou1qh

    @GentleM-ou1qh

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same here

  • @marshmalone3429

    @marshmalone3429

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lol I’m to the point with the RB that I’m about to solder a new switch in

  • @POLPO_WOOD

    @POLPO_WOOD

    2 жыл бұрын

    Open the controller up, there is a plastic white piece between the switch en de RB button, get it out. put a tiny tiny piece of ducktape on it to make it a bit thicker so it registers the click better, put it back and it works all fine again. did it yesterday, fixed al my problems

  • @harry-cj6wu

    @harry-cj6wu

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@POLPO_WOOD don't open it if it's under warranty!!

  • @Cosmicblaster117

    @Cosmicblaster117

    2 жыл бұрын

    its annoying especially when they don't give you a replacement thats why i didnt bought the halo one

  • @hiramjew1523
    @hiramjew15232 жыл бұрын

    I had mine for about 1.5 years so far and I still love it. I did have an issue with left bumper either double actuating or not at all. In addition the right trigger became sticky since the foam pad inside came loose creating an adhesive spot for the trigger. I exchanged through Microsoft directly and the controller has worked so far ever since. I still use the controller for many games on Steam and the back paddles works wonders for shifting gears in Forza Horizon 4!

  • @ainsley5843
    @ainsley58432 жыл бұрын

    i just found out people have been having issues with xbox controllers, i have had a normal xbox one controller and it’s been working perfectly for more than 5 years

  • @Oystein.Machiavelli

    @Oystein.Machiavelli

    2 жыл бұрын

    I once bought the Pubg controller and it lasted like 6 months and the bumpers broke But still my controller from my xbox one s still works perfectly fine

  • @gamerdogehd1032

    @gamerdogehd1032

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Oystein.Machiavelli my left joystick got drift up and down in only a month and I took such good care of my controller

  • @gela77

    @gela77

    11 ай бұрын

    I have the version that was wireless, about 10 years or more! Working fine with just a small crack from falling, and he did it a lot! I only want to upgrade to a new one due to it being so old and I want something good and comfy :)

  • @shivster

    @shivster

    11 ай бұрын

    @@gela77 yep, been almost 10 years for mine.. I want something that just isn't as old. this controller has served 🤣

  • @NayDeevo31

    @NayDeevo31

    10 ай бұрын

    The controller durability lottery is annoying. I've been blessed and cursed. Project Scorpio controller still going strong, outlasting multiple "normal" ones.

  • @Supershackda
    @Supershackda3 жыл бұрын

    Honestly surprised to read so many people have had so many issues with it. I bought mine second hand over a year ago and have had no problems with it at all, admittedly it's not been getting massively heavy use, but at the same time I haven't always treated it exactly...gently.

  • @JustAnotherAccount8

    @JustAnotherAccount8

    3 жыл бұрын

    The first or second one?

  • @willbates8464

    @willbates8464

    2 жыл бұрын

    If you're talking about the first one I felt the same exact way. Had mine for over a year. Buuuut just two days ago the grips started coming off. No reason what so ever I picked it up off my desk and then felt something weird on the back and woopty due grips are coming off.

  • @Druskqq

    @Druskqq

    2 жыл бұрын

    "admittedly it's not been getting massively heavy use" - Well, there you have it.

  • @zavianmedina1086

    @zavianmedina1086

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Druskqq he doesn’t treat it gently either soooo

  • @PlayBoiiM

    @PlayBoiiM

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just sent mines back in I barely used it it would let me connect it to my pc kept on disconnecting and only charges inside the case lol

  • @Aurik-Kal-Durin
    @Aurik-Kal-Durin2 жыл бұрын

    Microsoft should just make a variant of their standard wireless controller with the back paddle built. Seriously, that should become the standard for all controllers. I bought a Power A wired controller just so I could get those paddles to supplement the thumbstick buttons, since they are so awkward to use. Unfortunately, that controller broke after just 3 weeks of active use and I had to return it for a refund.

  • @austinbenoit1410

    @austinbenoit1410

    2 жыл бұрын

    They make more selling the licenses to 3rd party developers

  • @Sora-en8ib

    @Sora-en8ib

    2 жыл бұрын

    i feel like they should make a back button attachment like sony did and the can use that port on the bottom next to the Auxiliary. So people can use the custom limited controllers they make or ones that people custom make in design labs. Also if the controller is having issues they can just buy a new controller or use a spare one they have and continue to use the back button attachment. Sadly they’re probably never gonna do that cause they want to focus sells on their elite and 3rd party controllers.

  • @SuperSimdawg

    @SuperSimdawg

    2 жыл бұрын

    $$$$$

  • @Eddie2P

    @Eddie2P

    2 жыл бұрын

    i agree they shouold at least have 2 paddle or something built in from now on.

  • @fabolousjada5070

    @fabolousjada5070

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yup go look at the Xbox documentary that’s new they make everything in a rush and always have to back peddle on products same thing with windows Microsoft needs new leaders and strict ones

  • @jerbe4r270
    @jerbe4r2702 жыл бұрын

    After a year, going through warranty, then having it break again, I have decided to do a home repair on the bumpers. I tried using the paddles as bumpers but it just doesn’t fit my play style. Hope this works!

  • @kingquesadilla5563
    @kingquesadilla55632 жыл бұрын

    My thing is the integrated battery, I wish I could have the option to switch batteries if they start to degrade

  • @kastrator2065

    @kastrator2065

    2 жыл бұрын

    well you can...

  • @BubbleBlowingBanana

    @BubbleBlowingBanana

    2 жыл бұрын

    im sure you could replace the battery with ease, it's not like defusing a bomb

  • @jidenshaotoko

    @jidenshaotoko

    2 жыл бұрын

    @joey You can't. There's no compartment for the battery. The only way to access it is by literally ripping the entire controller apart and with how many rubber pieces covering seams and screws there are, it's a complicated and risky process.

  • @BubbleBlowingBanana

    @BubbleBlowingBanana

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jidenshaotoko Yeah that's what i meant bro, but i get what you're saying. You're going to have to spend an awful long time carefully taking parts out but being a mechanic i find it fun, but for many people it will be a tedious barrier for repair

  • @vitorfernandes651

    @vitorfernandes651

    2 жыл бұрын

    Gamers are so undecided. Everyone keeps complaining why Xbox still use AA batteries. We get a 40 hour interval and now people complain again.

  • @retroraygun5872
    @retroraygun58723 жыл бұрын

    I’ve had mine for a year now and everything was fine until yesterday when my rb just started with the double press/ doesn’t register issue. I guess on the bright side my A button never got stuck lol

  • @CinderAshe

    @CinderAshe

    2 жыл бұрын

    Exact same issue for me. RB became unresponsive.

  • @raddofzennla
    @raddofzennla3 жыл бұрын

    I have two series 1 elites. I’ve had the first one for about six years and the only issue I’ve had with it was after about three years the right bumper broke to where if I hold the controller with the bumpers facing down the outer end can pop out of the casing. That said it still works so I turned it into my PC controller since I play at a desk and can’t really hold the controller in a way that it will pop out. No other issues after six years, still works perfect. I’ve had the second one for three years and have had zero issues with it. Still looks brand new.

  • @adnanasghar1087

    @adnanasghar1087

    2 жыл бұрын

    You're just lucky or very careful with your controllers

  • @KillZoneHart1

    @KillZoneHart1

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lucky I was so careful with my Elite 1s, but the grips came off, the bearing in the sticks collapsed and the RB buttons snapped leaving it loose on the switch. Happened to both, with me not overworking either. Terrible build quality. My Elite 2, same deal, been so careful with it but now the RB has lost its responsiveness. Needs to be pressed so hard to register. The class action lawsuit against Microsoft for this is no joke.

  • @Exlipse703

    @Exlipse703

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@KillZoneHart1 my elite 1 still works but my elite 2, after 7 months all buttons except triggers, bumpers and analog sticks became unresponsive and the analogs are weirdly going up and down by itself. Which is why I switched to Razer Wolverine. Way better build quality.

  • @delta-a17

    @delta-a17

    2 жыл бұрын

    My right bumper broke as well. The replacement was a total piece of cake though.

  • @bigbear307
    @bigbear3072 жыл бұрын

    As an owner of the xbox elite controller 1 I was quite surprised to hear about durability issues with it. I’ve had no issues with anything wearing out but Im prob not a heavy user like you. If anything what I really like about the controller is the truly premium feel it has of something that is well made, it sure doesnt feel like something thats gonna wear out and ive used it quite a bit but I dont know how you play games and what constitues ’heavy use’ but I would bet for any normal use of tve controller it will be perfectlt fine. For normal users, casusl play, and for peiple who just want a premium feel device, they will be more than happy with it. My only gripe with it was the lack of bluetooth which I stupidly took for granted and after having shelled out quite a high sum for it Ms shortly after released the xCloud beta which I got accepted to after having waited forever, only to then be informed that it would only work with the new type of gaming controllers that had bluetooth. Oh silly me for getting that. They have had wireless controllers forever and made a killing on the elite controller and just now realised they actually wanted to use bluetooth and it would be required for the new service. I was slightly bummed out about that. I still think though that ghe elite controller 1 is one of the finest most premium controllers one can own and will not wear out if youre a normal user. Ive tried both v1 and v2 and IMO the v2 is not a step up in terms of premium finnish and overall quality feel.

  • @Tyberius1
    @Tyberius1 Жыл бұрын

    I bought mine pretty much right when it came out. It's help up really well for the most part, however recently I've had issues out of my left bumper, and both of my rubber trigger lock pieces fell off a long time ago, definitely something microsoft needs to fix. Battery is still excellent.

  • @trekbsg
    @trekbsg2 жыл бұрын

    I don't see myself buying a series 2 controller anytime soon, I purchased the series 1 at launch and thoroughly enjoyed it for the first year or so but not long after I started having the grip pad problems that so many have had, I then started having problems with stick drift on both sticks and now the left stick sometimes doesn't respond to input until it's slammed hard to the up position, as you said for a "premium product" the durability leaves much to be desired and really put a bad taste in my mouth and makes me doubt the quality of their premium products.

  • @blaze556922
    @blaze5569222 жыл бұрын

    We definitely wanted them to have a battery but it should be a swappable type.

  • @abelcazares2867
    @abelcazares28672 жыл бұрын

    I have bought a protective case for it and suprisingly it has improved the durability although you wont be able to feel the natural

  • @Klootvioolkut
    @Klootvioolkut2 жыл бұрын

    The original xbox battery packs were amazing. For the 360 and the one. I’ve used the same pack from xbox one release till elite controller 2 came out. And it still worked perfect.

  • @joezazasin7
    @joezazasin72 жыл бұрын

    The one thing they don't focus on is the most used double movement, Left analog stick forward, L3. Every game is based on the L3 forward "running" mechanic. There's where most controllers break.

  • @Eddie2P

    @Eddie2P

    2 жыл бұрын

    bind L3 to a paddle

  • @billjamal4764

    @billjamal4764

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Eddie2P F that, for a almost $200 controller, it should just work.

  • @PrizmSeeR

    @PrizmSeeR

    2 жыл бұрын

    I put it to the bottom left paddle and it works great. Simpler. It's dumb to make you press same button and then shift forward to move. I know y'all are used to it but my carpal tunnel never acts up anymore when I play a lot so it's a win for me. Try it.

  • @rufusconnolly8489

    @rufusconnolly8489

    Жыл бұрын

    @ISitOn MyArm apparently they do

  • @PolycrisisActor
    @PolycrisisActor2 жыл бұрын

    Getting my third Elite 2 under warranty. The first had severe stick drift, the second P1 didn't click like the other paddles. The Elite 1 just fell apart after 2 years. Still, a high quality controller is now an essential product for me, and I still like Microsoft's offering and am willing to endure this. I hope the huge losses they must be making won't deter them from making other hardware in the future.

  • @uhhTabby

    @uhhTabby

    2 жыл бұрын

    The ones under warranty are all garbage. The only fix is buying a new one till it breaks again.

  • @Logan-xw2cs

    @Logan-xw2cs

    10 ай бұрын

    Both my back buttons p1 and p3 have just stopped working for no reason and the paddles rattle about build quality of this controller is absolute garbage

  • @Epicc928
    @Epicc928 Жыл бұрын

    My biggest issue was the rubber near the paddles. Also the back left paddles had a piece of plastic reinforcement break off so my top right paddle doesn’t work without pressing directly where the button is located. I still bought one of the custom ones to replace it simply because it’s the best controller you can get for the money.

  • @ptpracing
    @ptpracing2 жыл бұрын

    Ive bought 2 of these and returned both of them. Within the first 30 days both of them were missing A button presses. I waited nearly a year between buying #1 and #2 to see if they would fix the issues but they didnt. I use a Razer Wolverine Tournament now and love its clicky mouse style buttons.

  • @leonydus9889

    @leonydus9889

    2 жыл бұрын

    does the razer tourney edition have a deadzone on the sticks as badly as the stock xbox controllers have

  • @mitchfs1739

    @mitchfs1739

    2 жыл бұрын

    I absolutely loved the clicky mouse buttons on the razer wolverine. Should make that standard for all controllers! Feels so much smoother en faster.

  • @makogiron
    @makogiron Жыл бұрын

    I own both. I bought the original controller day one. My controller still fully works and is clean. Although I completely changed the housing on the whole controller. It made it feel brand new and much better. The original handles came off and the front became sticky as well. My series 2 controller is very solid and the analog stick tension is highly appreciated.

  • @noodle9572

    @noodle9572

    Жыл бұрын

    Where did you buy the housing from? I need to do that with mine but could not find one on amazon etc. I have taken it apart a few times due to bumper buttons not working and now it does not close properly.

  • @Cosmic-Wanderer
    @Cosmic-Wanderer Жыл бұрын

    Ive ordered one should be here next week. Hope i touch lucky with a good one 🤞🏻

  • @OGMagicOfLight
    @OGMagicOfLight2 жыл бұрын

    I had an elite 2 for something like 2 days, the A button didnt register half the time. I returned it to best buy because of that. Just bought myself a PowerA Fusion pro 2, its far better out of the box and I feel like its gonna last longer. Even the analogs on the elite 2 didnt feel right out of the box. I think Microsoft needs to focus on durability if they're going to charge 180 bucks. As it is, its definitely not worth it when you can get the PowerA fusion pro/pro2 for less than half the money that thing costs. Edit** The powera controller is trash dont buy it. I Had 1 elite 2 i bought, the first one. The analog was broken out of the box, not even connected and forced to the side and just broke. Traded it in and got the one i mentioned before with the crap a button and returned it. Fast forward a year. I bought another from best buy, and bought the 60 dollar 2 year warranty for it. I used it for about 6 months for about 4-6 hour or so daily usually. And it was great. Put it in its case zipped up for 6 months, cause I started playing on pc. Pulled it out not long ago. The LB button double clicks, i tried the paper trick and everything, and nothing works. So im going to have to use the 60 dollar warranty for 6 months use on a 180 dollar controller. I will NOT be buying another 60 dollar 2 year warranty with the one I get. Simply for the following reason. Since feb 28th, I have put about 1700 hours in Lost Ark on an Xbox one controller that cost me like 50 bucks. Thats double or more the hours I put on the elite 2. So yeah, its great, when it works. But so far im 3 down, and none of them have been good. I would say stay far the f away from the elite 2. If you have to have paddles. Go with a razer, i hear they are far far more durable than scuf or elite controllers.

  • 10 ай бұрын

    i bought 3 different elite series 2 controllers all with different batch numbers, ALL of them had the A button not register half of the time, returned all of them. bought a SCUF controller instead and it has been working flawlessly for about a year so far.

  • @Kurppalumppu
    @Kurppalumppu2 жыл бұрын

    Hmm, you mentioned that the "plug&play" batteries suck but I've been using that kind of battery for a few years now. Lasts for I dunno.. at least 10-20 hours minimum. It's difficult to tell since PC doesn't tell how much charge there is exactly. Maybe I have just been lucky. My current controller works well and has for many years but I've just been researching whether it's worth buying the elite controller since the paddles would be nice for many games. The same two things came up everywhere: sticky A button and RB inconsistency. That's really bad since RB is used for attacking in dark souls and it's the game I play most on controller. I don't think I'm willing to gamble on the elite controller unless I find it heavily discounted somewhere. Thanks for the video

  • @EmergencyChannel

    @EmergencyChannel

    2 жыл бұрын

    No competitive gamer would use a wireless controller. I use a wire and have my USB poll rate on 1000khz/1ms. Wireless is fine for single player games though.

  • @rayrayy841

    @rayrayy841

    2 жыл бұрын

    I got my play and charge at launch for Xbox One. I'm still using it now and have zero issues

  • @julianmendez4691

    @julianmendez4691

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ahhh have you tried pressing win g when u have the controller plugger in its shows the battery charge

  • @julianmendez4691

    @julianmendez4691

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@EmergencyChannel actually won't make any differences between a wireless and wired only like 1-2 milli second difference a human brain wouldn't notice that at all

  • @ethansmith4612
    @ethansmith46122 жыл бұрын

    I have had the EXACT same bumper issue on 2 controllers now, playing games that utilize clicking the bumpers drives me crazy.

  • @shaggyrogers9028
    @shaggyrogers9028 Жыл бұрын

    What I think might also be happening with this one is there's just a lot of components, a lot pf electronics that might break, or might be faulty, so the chances that something on your controller is going to fail is much higher. However, one thing that's inexcusable is the fact that Gulikit's electromagnetic sticks exist, and they're not using them yet. Everyone is still using these terrible analog sticks with potentiometers that mess up so easily...

  • @LeiChat
    @LeiChat2 жыл бұрын

    The exterior is an enormous improvement on the first generation Elite but this week I have become one of many suffering a failing RB switch. I wonder how many of us play Gears, hammering that RB for the active reloads?

  • @cowboyjosh

    @cowboyjosh

    Жыл бұрын

    It's even worse with Sekiro. Or any game with a Souls controller layout, but especially Sekiro haha

  • @brandonwolf6773

    @brandonwolf6773

    10 ай бұрын

    Gears, for honor light spam, dying light jump button. Rb is abused

  • @artistmartin19
    @artistmartin192 жыл бұрын

    Had my series 2 for over a year and it still works just like i got it the first time.. It literally my favorite controller and I play competitive games..

  • @fwabble

    @fwabble

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Bill

  • @inawrocki207

    @inawrocki207

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sorry, you must not really play that often or that competitively. We have three Elite S2's (nephew, wife, and myself). After all three were replaced once, we made a 100% conscious effort to baby the crap out of these "premium" controllers, which is an absurd necessity with this price tag. The right bumper on all three started double clicking frequently, the A buttons were barely receptive because they wobble too much, and the sticky pad behind the trigger moved and caused sticky trigger on two - all this after 6 months. They're engineered to fail under normal circumstances. Light gamers just don't count.

  • @shanemarcum8116

    @shanemarcum8116

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah these controllers will last as long as you treat it right, no button spamming or mashing no slamming or throwing etc, had mine over a year nothing is wrong with it

  • @kl28

    @kl28

    2 жыл бұрын

    This. Everyone else, user error.

  • @jidenshaotoko

    @jidenshaotoko

    2 жыл бұрын

    It'll be REAL funny when the controller of those who don't believe the material choice issues are real start to wear down. It might take 1 or 2 years - there's no set time for it to happen - but it will.

  • @oaschbeidl
    @oaschbeidl3 жыл бұрын

    I decided to treat myself to something fancy after my XBOne controller developed a stick drift after ~1.5-2 years of ~1-2h use a day. Bought the Elite v2 and it got in today - lo and behold, both the A and the Y button often don't register and on top of that it doesn't charge via the dock. Absolutely unacceptable for such an expensive piece of hardware. I'm sending it back and giving it one more chance, if the next one I receive has issues aswell, I'll refund it and buy another controller. Apart from those glaring issues I was also very negatively surprised to find out that the paddles can only be mapped to buttons that already exist on the controller officially which makes them useless imo. Thankfully I've found a 3rd party tool that lets you map them to keyboard keys aswell. Could still be an issue with games that don't support using gamepad + keyboard at the same time, but for Rocket League it works.

  • @netbirth

    @netbirth

    2 жыл бұрын

    So, how’d the new controller go

  • @badgaem

    @badgaem

    2 жыл бұрын

    complaining about the paddles not being able to be bound to keyboard keys is such a pc thing to bitch about

  • @michaelrivera4299
    @michaelrivera429911 ай бұрын

    I love the grip and the metal triggers on top

  • @mr.getrighhttt3433
    @mr.getrighhttt34332 жыл бұрын

    My first one had issues after a few months. Trigger stop broke after 8-9 months of use. Buttons double press all the time, had crazy stick drift after a few months, and the bumpers don’t always work. This all before a year. So I bought a new one, and the RB bumper stopped working within 3 weeks. I am now waiting for my Scuff Instinct Pro to arrive because I am fed up with Microsoft. This experience has shown me that’s it’s way better to just learn to play claw, then use paddles when competitive gaming.

  • @OrdenRahmen
    @OrdenRahmen2 жыл бұрын

    I got my second series 2 controller now and got the same issue like I got on the first one. The right bumper RB isn’t recognizing anymore or just on a hard push.

  • @mrpxlinz7288

    @mrpxlinz7288

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same my is under warranty so im gonna do a claim

  • @fredmaromba3863

    @fredmaromba3863

    2 жыл бұрын

    How long u using it?

  • @matickills789

    @matickills789

    2 жыл бұрын

    My first one did that a year after use, and my second seems to be heading that direction too. While it still works the pressure I have to put on the left one is noticeably less when I test the buttons in the Xbox accessories

  • @ilikebreadok.9795

    @ilikebreadok.9795

    2 жыл бұрын

    At that point fix it yourself or take it to a repair shop if you fix it yourself it would be like 20$ because you need gear

  • @ilikebreadok.9795

    @ilikebreadok.9795

    2 жыл бұрын

    But if you take it to repair it can go from 100-200 aud so still cheaper

  • @DaoTau
    @DaoTau Жыл бұрын

    i had at least 3 elite controllers and all had problems even had 1 where the trigger stop adjust knop broke off it is only plastic unlike the elite 1 that had metal adjusters. some other problems i had with them is stick drift, RB button registering 2 times when pressing 1 time, thumbstick grinding that created dust and thumbstick click left side not working anymore. i really want the new controller but i am scared it will brake again after just a few weeks. my elite 1 still works and have it from 2015, only a few things like the rubber coming lose on the grips and minor stick drift witch can be fixed on steam or threw ingame deadzone adjustments. i am looking at the SCUF instinct pro atm might going try that one but i hope the rubber on there grips last. i just would like to see an elite 3 that last long like the 1

  • @NTrophy-
    @NTrophy-2 жыл бұрын

    After 2 years with an elite 2 i can say that stick drift is minimal and the battery is good as new even after thousands of hours of runtime, which is great, however, the paddle buttons and bumper buttons have extreme wear, i have to press hard down on the bottons to get them to activate, even when they click, nothing happens unless i forcefully press them down, this is disappointing since i had an elite 1 before this for over 4 years and never had this happen, i shouldnt have to buy a controller and worry about how many times i can press a button. Note: if you remap the stick buttons to the paddles, this can reduce wear on the sticks and significantly reduce stick drift. :)

  • @NickAZ365

    @NickAZ365

    Жыл бұрын

    Any update?

  • @andersonsampaio5133

    @andersonsampaio5133

    Жыл бұрын

    I use the controller for Battle front 2, in a period of 8 months i replaced it 3 times, I use a lot RT and LT and LB and RB, and those buttons can’t handle much clicks, that’s is unfortunate.

  • @Gwal
    @Gwal2 жыл бұрын

    April 2022, just bought an elite series 2, manufactured in 2021 week 49 so quite recently... and it had button 'A' issues not registering all inputs right out of the box

  • @MetalVII
    @MetalVII2 жыл бұрын

    I can wait to receive my Halo edition :) first ever elite controller. Hopefully they’ve fixed the problems.

  • @757JustinSane
    @757JustinSane Жыл бұрын

    I’m surprised you didn’t mention the bumpers. I had to replace the bumpers almost ten times before I quit using it.

  • @jidenshaotoko

    @jidenshaotoko

    Жыл бұрын

    I actually did :)

  • @theboringchan
    @theboringchan2 жыл бұрын

    What's the difference in the elite 1 or two? I just bought a refurbished elite controller. It has the paddles on back. But it's only got two different settings on the back instead of the three on both sides it's got two on both sides so I'm assuming it's the first generation elite? It looks just like the newest one though. I kind of feel like they built me a hybrid of the two

  • @7596insano
    @7596insano2 жыл бұрын

    Im about to get my third one, same issue, left stick delay when pushing forward or backwards in games where movement is key. It’s great when this problem doesn’t come about but it can’t make it a year without it happening. I got lucky when I got my first series 2, traded in my series 1 bc I had the year warranty, got my money back and all I had to pay was the year warranty for the series 2 at GameStop. Had to pay for another year warranty when I took my 1st one back and I’m glad I did but damn it’s kind of annoying that they can’t get the sticks right.

  • @Cognitoman

    @Cognitoman

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ive had 4 of them, they start getting stick problems after 3 months... The right stick starts to wobble

  • @SuperSimdawg

    @SuperSimdawg

    2 жыл бұрын

    Get the razer wolverine ultimate

  • @Adamsfamily1990
    @Adamsfamily19902 жыл бұрын

    To be honest I still use the basic controller that was in the package with the One x 3 years ago and it still work.Sometimes the A button needs double press,but that is the only problem.To be honest I wouldn't buy a controller for 150 dollar.

  • @jbtripleog522

    @jbtripleog522

    2 жыл бұрын

    You don't have paddles on those, And you kind of need em to go against PC players

  • @jbtripleog522

    @jbtripleog522

    2 жыл бұрын

    If you're not a sweat on Warzone you don't have to worry about all that

  • @blaze556922

    @blaze556922

    2 жыл бұрын

    I know it seems pricey but it really is a game changer. Pun intended lol having the ability to use the back paddles makes gameplay so much smoother. If you game for even 15 to 20 hours a week then you definitely should get it.

  • @calvinsallee
    @calvinsallee4 ай бұрын

    2024 here. Bought one 2 months ago. Instantly had xonnection loss issues. Thought it was my 10 year old Xbox that the sync button didn't even work on anymore. Upgraded to a series x still had the issue & the other night it just completely stopped working. Could manually turn off the Xbox & turn on the console with tye controller. But none of the other buttons would get any response on the console and it acted like it wasn't actually connected. Went and replaced it and got another one which so far works flawlessly. But I'm nervous bout the way it'll work long term so I bought a gmsir g7 se for back up

  • @darkiboi1018
    @darkiboi1018 Жыл бұрын

    I've had mine a few months now and I've gotten stick drift on the right thumbstick, it's small but noticeable to effect me during games which bugs me a lot. A few buttons sometimes don't register or

  • @Propya
    @Propya2 жыл бұрын

    My only problem along with many others are unresponsive AXYB buttons. You either have to hit it harder than usual or hit directly in the middle every time. I usually hits my buttons softer than what is required now. I wouldnt recommended this controller until that problem is fixed

  • @driverdis3488

    @driverdis3488

    2 жыл бұрын

    I had to disassemble and fix my Halo Infinite Elite controller due to this problem. It bugged me a lot and depending on how I pressed A I would miss around 80% of button presses. It is much better now that I fixed it. I also had to exchange a white Series controller as both A and Y had this issue brand new out of the box.

  • @housestomping

    @housestomping

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just had this issue with my second replacement .kept missing my shots on fifa . On to my third bad .....

  • @Iddy267
    @Iddy2673 жыл бұрын

    I got some questions: I am sending mine with the 14 day regret law that we have. This basically means I get all my money back if you regret the buy within 14 days but there is 3 days left for its experation date (if you know what law I'm takling about, does this matter is my question). Another thing is, if you have crack-opened it up, do I even have a chance at having my money refunded. I only have a couple of scratchmarks and the controller is fully functional except for the A button stick that came with the package.

  • @jidenshaotoko

    @jidenshaotoko

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don't know where you live so I can't tell. I don't know your local laws. Here in Brazil I know that the company has the right to refuse your refund request if there's visible damage or tampering of any sort which opening the controller would fall under.

  • @Iddy267

    @Iddy267

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jidenshaotoko I just talked to the store people. They told me since I informed of product defect already before hand, I still have rights of it. As long as the product is functional (except for the issue that it had). In my case, A-button sticking.

  • @edwardr8226
    @edwardr8226 Жыл бұрын

    My elite v1 was going strong for almost 5 years, but the stick drift, the rubber on the sticks having come off and some button presses not registering it has finally made it unusable. Really want to replace it but the mixed reviews of the v2 have me hesitant

  • @D1LAT3D
    @D1LAT3D2 жыл бұрын

    I have bought three so far. Each one has issues. The back paddles barely work and now my number button is broken. I’ve always taken such good care of it I don’t understand how my 2013 Xbox controller has less issues.

  • @imjusttrollingyou4014
    @imjusttrollingyou4014 Жыл бұрын

    My Elite 1 is still going solid, my E2 had to go in twice but has been great since, battery life is a huge accomplishment, wish everybody else better luck.

  • @Ed-zb4ij
    @Ed-zb4ij2 жыл бұрын

    Mine went for 2 years. After December 2020 it started having issues. My bumpers stoppped working, my left joystick stopped working and now it won’t turn on

  • @Praise1k
    @Praise1k3 жыл бұрын

    my left stick started to not work, i would push it forward to walk and it wouldnt work until 5 seconds after, my rb doesnt register unless i press it hard, and my Y button also would not register sometimes, i just ordered another one since i have a best buy warranty but is a geek squad refurbished one, hopefully it lasts

  • @danielgrajeda4224

    @danielgrajeda4224

    2 жыл бұрын

    How did it go?

  • @KillZoneHart1

    @KillZoneHart1

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have to smack the shit out of my RB button to get it working normally for a while. Usually gets it working for about half an hour until it goes to crap again. Hate this controller. I'm a few months away from just launching into the wall.

  • @TheDeadpooldoesGames
    @TheDeadpooldoesGames9 ай бұрын

    I’m very surprised y’all are having so many issues, I’ve had my elite controller for about 3 years, I put some controller freaks on the analog sticks, and I have the cheaper one, it’s done me well so far

  • @xFuRR
    @xFuRR2 жыл бұрын

    had it for a few days and noticed the A button wouldn't work unless you hardpressed on it. Returned it right away and went back to the normal controllers :/

  • @ARXInfinite
    @ARXInfinite2 жыл бұрын

    I’ve had my elite for 1 year now. Still works Completely fine but there is a rattle inside. And the Rubber grips near the bottom where you hold is now Popping out and it’s happening to the other side too

  • @maxstr
    @maxstr2 жыл бұрын

    Mine is starting to have issues now at year 2. Rubber starting to peel and the top bumper switches aren't always registering a click

  • @8bitflea
    @8bitflea2 жыл бұрын

    The A button seems to have the same issue for everyone, love the controller I just wish it didn’t have any issues

  • @dentedavalanche
    @dentedavalanche Жыл бұрын

    Gone through multiple replacements, it has some issues. Rb button is dead now. A button fails to register if u press it at a certain angle, this happens on every single elite 2 ive had. top back buttons fail to press in correctly, not making enough contact. Elite 2 is an amazing controller but it just cant hold up under normal use.

  • @kamael1125
    @kamael11252 жыл бұрын

    I love how this controller feels in my hands. Amazing stuff. But the quality control...Jesus...you can see straight away that this is the same company that made Windows Vista. I bought this controller 3 weeks ago. A button is not registering light presses. or sometimes registers 2 at the price of singe press. Went back to the shop, got replacement. Same issue. I will be going back to the shop tomorrow. At this stage...I am thorn if I should try 3rd replacement or get something else...

  • @jeffmuller1489
    @jeffmuller14893 жыл бұрын

    My elite 2 was working great until yesterday the left stick started sticking.. move forward and then backward and i would keep moving forward for a few seconds. Is it possible/recommended to clean with contact cleaner? $195 is a big investment. I'd like to not do that again if I can help it.

  • @shepherdrm8486

    @shepherdrm8486

    2 жыл бұрын

    Can't really go too wrong with contact cleaner worth a shot maybe lower the tension?

  • @Arannez

    @Arannez

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just got mine too, crazy how much stuff is wrong with it for a price of half a console.

  • @martythestines
    @martythestines2 жыл бұрын

    I was about to buy one of these, until I bought an 8BitDo Pro 2 for my switch, so I'd have analog triggers. I now have one for my Switch and laptop and one at my desktop in my office. I am so lucky I found it, cuz its the perfect controller for me. Its only $50 and it doesn't constantly disconnect from the Bluetooth on my Pcs. Unlike my Series X controllers...... I love the triggers on the Pro 2.

  • @jamescostin-buchanan111
    @jamescostin-buchanan1112 жыл бұрын

    My 1st one i got on realse and it was riddled with problems my right trigger stop stopped working, the left stick had this verticle drift up and down that was more like involentary input than drift, one of the inputs on the paddles stopped registering and finally when i charged it while playing it would shock me on the left back paddle. Just received a replacement and straight away much better but i have only had it a week......

  • @ATKPerc
    @ATKPerc2 жыл бұрын

    Awesome vid 🤙

  • @BrianWood74
    @BrianWood742 жыл бұрын

    Not sure what recharge kits you got from Microsoft, but I have four that I bought for my OG Xbox One with Kinect a few years back and all but one still works and holds a charge.....

  • @Aliothale
    @Aliothale2 жыл бұрын

    Been watching a few videos on this controller because I wanted to try a nice Xbox controller.. but after hearing how many issues it had I'm just going to replace my DualShock 4 with PS5 controller. My PS4 controller is only starting to show issues after 8 years of use and I've put maybe 2-3k gaming hours on it.

  • @simonpike779
    @simonpike7792 жыл бұрын

    I have the white series 1 elite and with all the rubber grip issues in mind i got one of those silicone covers for it and so far its as good as new and I dont let my son anywhere near it!

  • @adrianogrisanti6731
    @adrianogrisanti67312 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for info. I bought one as came with ms 3 year warranty so presume worth risk plus this will be next revision elite 2. So hopefully ok

  • @otaviogomes5456
    @otaviogomes54562 жыл бұрын

    Cara, matei no primeiro minuto de video que você era brasileiro pelo sotaque kkk. Parabéns pelo vídeo! Muito bom! E excelente inglês!

  • @matmat460

    @matmat460

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oshi, n reparei nd kkkkkkkkk

  • @travisanderson1562
    @travisanderson1562 Жыл бұрын

    I have a pre-release one that I won in the Taco Bell giveaway in 2019. It's had some issues, but not with the rubber grips. The rubber nubbins on the trigger stop switches have come off, and I have a stiff paddle button, (good thing I don't use them), I had a bumper and a trigger break, and the rubber grips on the sticks are severely worn down. I made all of the repairs myself with parts from eXtremerate, and it cost me about $30. I even customized it with a new faceplate.

  • @nickh.44
    @nickh.442 жыл бұрын

    Great Video!

  • @CRUMB.
    @CRUMB.2 жыл бұрын

    4th xbox elite 2 is now broken , all with LB issues , air roll on rocket league is its worst nightmare

  • @kamrenjones1641
    @kamrenjones1641 Жыл бұрын

    Just ordered this for my pc im looking forward to it

  • @ouki4925
    @ouki49252 жыл бұрын

    My 2nd replacement already failed with constant disconnection and broken LB button. I only ever use it for console port games... This is sad!

  • @epicon6
    @epicon6 Жыл бұрын

    I miss the smooth mushroom shaped sticks from the gen 1 although they were too tall. And maybe a tiny too narrow. But i liked them tons more than the big ribbed thumb stick it come with now.

  • @mikehegg8702
    @mikehegg87023 жыл бұрын

    Well done review

  • @w7f21
    @w7f213 жыл бұрын

    My RB literally has a stroke every time I press it I already tried taking the plastic out and exchanging it with other plastic similar in thickness and even swapped it out for the LB plastic should I use my warranty to just a new one already?

  • @KillZoneHart1

    @KillZoneHart1

    2 жыл бұрын

    I tried that. Just use warranty, not worth trying to fix it. My warranty is gone and I feel like yeeting the controller whenever the RB button screws me over.

  • @tbonevlogs7854

    @tbonevlogs7854

    2 жыл бұрын

    I just had the same problem I used my warranty so far no problems I have had the controller for almost a week so definitely use your warranty because they will send you a new controller

  • @inawrocki207

    @inawrocki207

    2 жыл бұрын

    ​@@KillZoneHart1 Use this video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/kY2YrLOQl9DddpM.html Learn to pull it apart and replace that shit bumper switch man. I am so glad I did. I will never have to waste money buying that $60 warranty over and over, let alone not having my paddles waiting for the new controller.

  • @danielluvsmilfs7829
    @danielluvsmilfs78292 жыл бұрын

    i got mine straight from the store but the LB & RB triggers don’t work unless I press it super hard or multiple times smh:(

  • @kelb89
    @kelb893 жыл бұрын

    Don't waste your money. I sent three back for repairs to Microsoft in under a year.

  • @BabarTheOne
    @BabarTheOne2 жыл бұрын

    I had gotten the elite 2 in Dec'21 with my new series x. it is Feb'22 now and it has a left analog stick drift problem.

  • @teddym2808
    @teddym28082 жыл бұрын

    I finally splashed out and got one 3 days ago, brand new, and was faulty out of the box. Vibration was just manually going off like crazy even with no game loaded, just moving the controller/my hands and pressing nothing LOL. It was the right trigger vibration, was totally broken, and didn't respond with the software tool at all like the left trigger did, yet was going off on its own particularly when the trigger locks were closed.. I sent back to Amazon and so far the replacement seems OK. Still, for 250 Australian Dollars, you have to wonder about Microsoft quality control. That said, it's the most comfortable controller I have ever used in my life. I have large hands, not huge but large, and I have arthritis and RSI at age 50, and I can play for hours with this controller.. It's heavy yes but it's comfortable and your hands don't slip. I played for about 3 hours last night and really enjoyed it. If only it had a turbo button, as I still love my retro emulation and for the very old games my hands just aren't healthy enough to manually hit a fire button over and over for an hour anymore. If it had a turbo button I'd never need any other controller, but I got an SN30 Pro 2 for that exact purpose. Sadly, I find the Pro 2 quite uncomfortable to hold and use, especially the d-pad which causes my left hand a lot of pain. If anyone knows of a quality PC controller in the xbox style layout, with turbo, do let me know so I can try it out.

  • @CodeLeeCarter
    @CodeLeeCarter Жыл бұрын

    I hope the Bumpers have been redesigned, the ones on the Elite v1 kept breaking and I had to keep buying new bumpers for it.

  • @LtGenBuffalo
    @LtGenBuffalo2 жыл бұрын

    Sending it in for repairs this week hope I get a brand new one. Sometimes depending on how defective the controller is they will send you a brand new one

  • @nickabbott319

    @nickabbott319

    2 жыл бұрын

    Did you get a new one?

  • @AAA-Wolf

    @AAA-Wolf

    Жыл бұрын

    Did you get a good one?

  • @dwanrobinson
    @dwanrobinson3 жыл бұрын

    I have never had an issue other than the average disconnect scramble crap that happens once ever blue moon. Since having the series x I haven't had an issue at all.

  • @fupahunter7945

    @fupahunter7945

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yea that's the only issue I have too. Otherwise it works amazing.

  • @inawrocki207

    @inawrocki207

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yep. I can attest that the disconnect issue is the Xbox receiver, not the controller. I've had a Series X with an Arctic 9x headset and elite S2 function perfect 24/7. The wife was using an older Xbox with the same - constant headset disconnects. Since she got her Series X, both of our controller and headsets never disconnect.

  • @TheMoneeman
    @TheMoneeman Жыл бұрын

    Just got it for my pc, but it feels smaller then my ps5 controller. Ill just have to get use to it. Thank you for the review.

  • @d.ink3d
    @d.ink3d2 ай бұрын

    Mine was bought in 2021 and still works perfectly, no stick drift and looks like new so nice material used. My rubber grip didnt come down at all.

  • @keeankerger4792
    @keeankerger47922 жыл бұрын

    I have had an elite series 1 since I got my xbox and it hasn't had any problems just got the series 2 and hope it's just as good

  • @taxi615
    @taxi6153 жыл бұрын

    Just got mine haven't tried it yet but for those having issues does MS replace fix or refund if the controller has issues? Hope I made a good choice buying this.

  • @jeffmuller1489

    @jeffmuller1489

    3 жыл бұрын

    I Called MS, They said they would try to fix mine, but if they couldn't they would replace it. My concern is the replacement may have the same issues as my original

  • @thehaloguy8222
    @thehaloguy82222 жыл бұрын

    ive had 6 elite 2s and the LB always stops working and the RB always double inputs after only 6 months

  • @Bloodysugar
    @Bloodysugar2 жыл бұрын

    There's an other point Microsoft should correct : making possible to assign any keyboard key to any button. It is possible as tier solutions do it (steam, antimicro, rewasd etc), it is very easy (for them) to do, it would just take an update of their setting app, it is highly convenient for users, and with such a price we should expect the best starting with what already exists. But even if they did it, it would still be a poor choice as its durability is very problematic on many points. I have enjoyed basic xbox controllers for years, I just can't understand why a product 3 times cheaper is way more durable than this one. For some special features I get it, almost... for instance there's no vibration motor in triggers within the basic xbox gamepad, so it wont break like Elite motors do (except most of the time they stop working just because of one wire breaking just before solder point on the motor, witch could be fixed by making a better job on retaining wires from moving around). But for other stuffs like the A button getting squishy within some months, while it can last for years with the basic gamepad, it's just absurd. On several issues like the A button, or analog sticks, they know how to make it right, so it's a choice to not make this one as good. Trying to understand why do they not want to make their top end model at least as durable as their basic one is very confusing, especially after years of massive complaints. Why would most users want to buy several times such an expensive device after having troubles since their first one ? I know planned obsolescence is a profitable thing for companies, but the more expensive a product is the more it should be durable anyway. In a lot of cases the obsolescence of the Elite is so fast that it gets bad before guaranty ends...

  • @R_Rodas_
    @R_Rodas_ Жыл бұрын

    I had mine for three days and the A button registered 3 out of 10 times at most. I really liked it when I opened the box and started using it but then my dreams got crushed.

  • @joshuasavoy7443

    @joshuasavoy7443

    Жыл бұрын

    Same thing happened with mine. Sad.

  • @RE4PER
    @RE4PER Жыл бұрын

    Mine has been pretty goodfor 2 years aside from the fact that the P1 and P3 paddles no longer work. It seems like the buttons themselves have worn down somewhat which makes them unusable.

  • @Venzera
    @Venzera2 жыл бұрын

    Is anyone else having issues with the thumbstick cap for the right stick getting floppy? The cap itself looks fine but replacing it fixed the issue...for a while.

  • @botchok5
    @botchok53 жыл бұрын

    I noticed these are back 'in stock' on Amazon again. They were gone for a few months. Does anyone know if these new stock are revised versions or just the same ones?

  • @KevsOutside

    @KevsOutside

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’m wondering the same thing i was finally able to get one at my local GameStop. Now I’m seeing everyone is stocked up on controllers. I hope this is a revised controller

  • @jidenshaotoko

    @jidenshaotoko

    3 жыл бұрын

    No revisions as far as I know.

  • @KevsOutside

    @KevsOutside

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jidenshaotoko after a couple googles and Reddit’s i found that this latest batch can very much be the revised series 2. nothing different yet but it most likely is. We just gotta wait and see.

  • @gustavoalonsorg1479

    @gustavoalonsorg1479

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same here bro, I don't know if I should buy it now or buy a dualsense and wait to see if it gets improved

  • @durrik2flyy846

    @durrik2flyy846

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@gustavoalonsorg1479 My dualsense has horrible stick drift on the right stick and the only game I play with it is Rocket League... Which means I VERY rarely use the right stick at all. The stick drift seemed to have just developed on it's own.

  • @hvasdf
    @hvasdf2 жыл бұрын

    Two elite 2s under one year with heavy gaming (avg: 3h at least per day) both RB buttons broken. Another is not responding not even opening up the chase and trying the button itself. Second is "loosely" so it sometimes responses (quick fix to tape 2 layers of extra tape on that "fraction tape/plastic" which is between bumber and the key. Also second controller's left stick does not always return. Even stick is at middle in Xbox test stick shows that they are slowly returning back to center deadzone. Games which played over years were Overwatch, Apex Legends, Assassin Creed series, Rocket league. Which all requires heavy clicking. At least AC series "rapes" the RB as light attack key binding. And left stick gets a lot of action in all games. Even all of this is it is still the best controller ever done and when you don't have competition using more stronger components is useless. And because of muscle memory I cannot go back to normal.

  • @mutedust8229
    @mutedust82292 жыл бұрын

    I'm saving for this controller and I've had a Razor Ultimate for a year now. It got wore down like A registers as a double press when I press it once and RB not registering sometimes. I get anxiety about my controller and just keeping it clean. It's the same fear I have for this controller. I only game on weekends but it gets heavy use on weekends. I like this controller because it's wireless and BT.

  • @rodtobam47

    @rodtobam47

    Жыл бұрын

    If you haven't bought it yet, don't. It's cheaply made and the shoulder buttons will stop working. Save your money.

  • @girthworm6895
    @girthworm68952 жыл бұрын

    My controller keeps randomly disconnecting from my Xbox series s.....I've got a replacement too I don't understand why it keeps doing that...

  • @algo2957
    @algo29572 жыл бұрын

    How's your controller now? Does it still work or has it broken somehow?

  • @theraggyone
    @theraggyone Жыл бұрын

    Had mine for 4 months all works fine except you cannot play games over the usb connection. Its fine on bluetooth but on usb the triggers dont work and the right stick bugs out massively have tried differant firmware , leads etc but its still the same on both my pc and samsung s22 ultra . Thinking about warranty now ....

  • @dwanrobinson
    @dwanrobinson3 жыл бұрын

    I have had both and I've only minor things happen. When I had the scuff vantage it sat for almost a year before I figure out how to fix the drift on my own. Alot of parts come off assembly lines. Sometimes workers may forget to oil parts. So you end up with stick drift. Take the controller apart and oil the housing to the sticks. Problem solved. You're welcome.

  • @leonydus9889

    @leonydus9889

    2 жыл бұрын

    "oil the housing of the stick" i have no idea what that means

  • @Ali-et9et
    @Ali-et9et2 жыл бұрын

    I’ve dropped my controller maybe twice probably one time that i can remember, never thrown it or anything like that and both bumpers and one trigger is broken. very annoying but whatever i have warranty

  • @waynedoo7442
    @waynedoo7442 Жыл бұрын

    After 1 year and 1 month, after warranty expired of course Mt RB Button ist not responding properly anymore. Opened the Controller and tried to fix it but had no luck.

  • @adamgarcia9839
    @adamgarcia98392 жыл бұрын

    I’m on my 3rd Elite 2 warranty fix. Hopefully third time is a charm

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