been an X fan since the first one, but X3 was the first one i spent insane amounts of time playing. X4 is getting there and i have no doubt I'll end up spending the same kind of time playing it. I wouldn't actually try to compare to Elite: Dangerous or NMS because i don't see it as the same kind of game. It's an empire building game that allows you to do it from the standpoint of a person actually existing in the universe rather than playing like a god game. imagine Galactic Civilizations, Space Empire, or Stellaris, but you play as a person living in the game universe. That's the X4 game experience. The learning curve is the number one reason why the series has never gotten to insane levels of popularity. there is no way around it though, not without sacrificing what makes the game great. It is a silly deep and complex game when you first start, and can cause incredible frustration. surviving that learning curve and frustration is the only way to get into the game i'm afraid. it's a requirement, a right of passage. If you want to experience THE best space empire building game, you have to survive the learning curve.

@nimbledick9869

2 жыл бұрын

I bought X4 two weeks ago, spent about an hour running around the place you start trying to find "the docking bay" , which wasn't labelled "the docking bay" after doing a few of the tutorials I took a break and reinstalled X3AP again, a game I had spent many hours on thinking actually that was more enjoyable than what I had found in X4 so far... only to see that X3 Farnhams Legacy not only exsisted but had already been released for a year and was free. I've been playing Farnhams Legacy instead of X4, it's such an improvement even on AP and honestly gives me everything I wanted in terms of improvement over X3AP.

@Nyxson

2 жыл бұрын

Docking tutorial is literally the first tutorial and simplest thing to do in game. How did you manage to not figure it out yet thinking X3 is more enjoyable?! (X3 is undeniably great game, but it is much more complicated than X4)

@nimbledick9869

2 жыл бұрын

@@Nyxson Seriously? I found it the other way around, I could pretty much do anything in X3 by just clicking on the screen everything feels very streamlined to me compared to X4 for example having to constantly bring up a menu to do things with my ship bugged me, not having the changes in lore explained to me since X3 mean't I was looking for the SETA button and trying to figure out if the gates were back or not. X4 actually looked worse for me than Albion Prelude in terms of ship graphics. It's most likely as you say though a simpler game, I have been playing the X series since Reunion first came out and broke my teeth on that clunky mess of a game, after playing Reunion X3TC and AP don't seem complicated at all. It's most likely the fact i'm unfamiliar with the new way of doing things that turns me off.

@Nyxson

2 жыл бұрын

Shift+D is docking permission and the station will automatically light the path to you. Anyway, just give it a chance, I understand that you are familiar and comfortable with X3 mechanics, but give it just a little more time and you will understand how much easier and more intuitive X4 is (especially with fleet control)

@nimbledick9869

2 жыл бұрын

@@Nyxson Yeah think i'll give it another go over the easter weekend

game graphics never bothered me, it's the gameplay that really matters.

@scott-richards

Жыл бұрын

agreed, i have no idea what he's talking about. the environments, fog, and lighting effects are unmatched. bases and ships look great too. no way Elite looks better than this game. Star Citizen does but that game is not comparable to this or even should be mentioned considering what X4 is and what SC isn't. smh. /shrugs. this is literally the best space sandbox ever released to date. period.

@Redridge07

Жыл бұрын

@Toogun You have to have both graphics and gameplay. If X4 was wireframe you would hate this game.

@toolgun6729

Жыл бұрын

@@Redridge07 I honestly wouldn't mind a wireframe game because it looks nice.

@Redridge07

Жыл бұрын

@@toolgun6729 yep, looks something like this kzread.info/dash/bejne/mGmFt8-wgM6ZZNI.html

@Assassin5671000

Жыл бұрын

@@scott-richards Yeah well it's the best because there isn't really another one like it ,I wish they got some competition though would be nice to see some other company give it a fair shake and see with what they can come up with

Totally LOVED X3 Reunion! I remember some good ole days leaving this game running in accelerated time mode, while I went off to work. Then eagerly looking forward to see how much money I made or, how many traders I had lost! Then building up space stations, and working out the best trading routes between them. Or running around in a fleet of powerful ships, hunting down bad guys... Finally culminating in a MASSIVE showdown with the Xenon in their space! Yeah... I looked, I came and I conquered! Even though I lost most of my fleet! Good Times! Then bought Terran Conflict but for some reason, I really didn't get into it! Was tempted to try again but maybe it's best just to jump into this! I will forever love Elite Dangerous, but compared to the X games, it is a massive time sink! Sure, mastering the X games does take time, at first, but once you start to automate your empire to the point that it simply runs itself, this game becomes instantly rewarding! Because you can just leave it to evolve, while you get on with Real Life 😁

@MastaChief10

Жыл бұрын

X3 has some really strong complete overhaul mods, like litcube and the starwars one. VRO is basically a requirement for me to play X4 as it adds so much

Really funny how you uploaded this video THE EXACT DAY I started playing this game after it sat in my library for years.. This game is everything I would have wanted to be included in Elite, earning money actually feels worthwhile in this game as there are cool (!) things to spend them on. Maybe you could upload some updated tutorials, since most things are kind of out of date? Anyway, great video, keep it up!

@Nyxson

2 жыл бұрын

Not sure how tutorials will fit the channel but I will think about what I can do :) And thanks for your kind words ❤️

@Vithonil

2 жыл бұрын

@@Nyxson Finding up-to-date content for this game is really difficult, but of course, as you said, not many people know this game even exists and therefore the view count is rather low, so not sure if it would be worthwhile in the first place.. I subbed and liked for the algorithm, too, great channels like yours need more attention!

its seriously an underrated space game indeed, its superb, great review, its detailed and well explained, without scaring the viewers with the complexity of the game lol 😀👍

been playing since X beyond the frontier, 22 years of X games and have loved how deep this game can get. one of the best games I have ever played

@Centrioless

2 жыл бұрын

I'm so lucky i was introduced to this series out of curiousity almost 12years ago. Truly one of the best games i've ever played

Thank you for convincing me to put more time into this great game, was VERY overwhelmed but will carry on truckin' :). Thanks for the great overview and very concise.

I think the only thing I'd miss if I switched from Elite is the native VR support. Nothing quite compares to piloting your ship from a VR cockpit.

Firstly, you need to fly your ship. Tutorial is absolutely must. Because without upgrade, you have to land the ship at the station yourself and that is difficult as hell when you first start. Then learn how to make money by watching KZread videos. But on top of that, you need to know the interface of the game well. It is overwhelmingly much details on screen. Trading, mining, job randomly appears at any station. But the problem is, you also need to know how to look for these jobs as well. Once you know the basics, explore and build your fleet and play the main story to get your own station.

This game turns your computer into a galaxy simulator. The learning curve is steep, but it's really amazing once you start making progress. This is a fully 3D rendered galaxy with thousands of ships and space stations, simulated economy and wars. It is overwhelming at first, but exciting once you start to understand the depth of the simulation and how many different ways you can play. In this game, you can be Han Solo, smuggler, Luke Skywalker, X-wing pilot, or even Darth Vader, with your own death star and fleet of Star Destroyers, or run your own Trade Federation. If you're looking for a story, the only one you'll find here is the one you make yourself.

Great review. One thing that you didn't mention, and what sets X apart from every other space game (and games generally I'd say), is that the galaxy is alive. All the NPC ships etc move in real time, whether you are there or not. The supply/demand economy, as well as everything else you can do in the game rely on this. All the NPCs go about their daily lives. It's a superb game. I bought X: Beyond the Frontier when it was released, and I've bought every iteration since. Even Rebirth, though that's the one I wish I hadn't. The original X was released 22 years ago, and even now I still feel I'm only barely scratching the surface. But it's such a nice itch to scratch.

I play the X-series since X2 (released in 2004) and played every title since then. I simply love this franchise and the freedom in this sandbox. It’s actually a must have for everyone that likes space games. You don’t have to build stations if you don’t want to an go on boarding operations and pirating instead. But if you like you can build self supplying production facilities, establish a own shipyard, Outfit the ships to your liking and then start a huge war against other factions. Everything directly influences the economy and it’s possible to dry out the enemy to a point where they can’t build news ships. Once you deleted the enemy from a sector you can claim it and set your own rules and orders :) it’s really a very deep game :)

Truly is under rated. I play Elite, Star Citizen but X4 is great single player space game to have on the side just to goof around with. The options and configurations are so well done and looks fantastic. What you are getting for the price is incredible and they still continue too update it.

WAY back in the day, I LOVED Wing Commander Privateer and always been looking for a similar experience...I will give it a try. Thanks for all the insight!

@mart719

Жыл бұрын

Rebel galaxy outlaw is the closest thing to privateer

@Eriodas

Жыл бұрын

If You loved Privateer You Will definetly love this one. I would recomend seeing tutorials on starting an Empire first though, commerce here is heavily focused on station building (after building the first ones, You Will get it, don't worry todo much). I think the most difficult part of the Game at first is finding the most profitable way to build up your fleets and assets, since You Will need to defend yourself from pirates and Xenon.

@mart719

Жыл бұрын

@@Eriodas I was going to buy this for steam deck but I understand the frame rate plummets once fleets and battles grow larger.

Hey, nice review! I want to add a few more points to the pros and cons list, points that I hear regularly from people who played the game and myself: Pros: -An insanely detailed economy. As you've described, miners gather resources that they later sell to stations and a supply/demand chain is born. But that's not all. The end products of the economy pyramid are ships and station. The economy is entirely war driven, meaning that if a faction runs out of resources, they are pretty much good as dead unless one of their allied factions manage to help them. But that's on the grand scale. On a local scale for a new player, such thing can happen that he orders the ship only to find out that the space station doesn't seem to have the sufficient high-tech wares to complete his ordered ship. -Campaigns and diplomacy. The game is not a standard 4X game with dynamic diplomacy, however that's not necessarily a bad thing. The player can influence factions by the end of each campaigns, thus he can turn individual factions against each other and if the players thinks ahead, he can profit from these actions. For instance, in my last playthrough I turned the Argon Federation against their Terran brothers. What happened was that the Terrans cleared out the Argon capital sector. Knowing that this was likely to happen, I rushed there as a false messiah and quickly erected a shipyard complex in that sector. I'm now insanely rich since I provide the majority of the spacecrafts for the Argon Federation while also being friendly to the Terrans with a few of my stations scattered through Terran space. -Labor of love product. X4, much like any other X game so far began its career in a really rough state. It took Egosoft years to fix it to this level, and not only fix the bugs, but give us really cool new features for free, such as wreck salvaging. And I have to say, Egosoft could have decided that they sell you these fancy new features via a DLC. But no, they simply give you the features for free, while baking new campaigns, new factions, new ships and stations, and map expansions into the DLCs. Cons: -No multiplayer. Simple as that. Many people wish they could show off their spacecrafts to their friends, or do missions in coop but shamely this won't be possible. There's an attempt for a sort-of multiplayer setting in X4 called Ventures, but it's disabled for the foreseeable future and we're not sure what that might hold. -No VR support. Egosoft isn't very keen on doing a VR option or VR version of the game since XRebirth VR. Not sure if this would change in the future. But again, on the bright-side, headtracker hardware with HOTAS systems work pretty well. -No 4X. Although the player can utilize the 4X points, the NPC factions do not. The game is kept in a balanced state that won't flip further after a certain point. So a NPC single faction taking over the entire galaxy just cannot happen in vanilla means. -All-over-the-place UI. Although the UI could be a lot worse, I guess we have to agree that it feels somewhat dated. I honestly feel like navigating through a Windows environment when I play the game. It's especially apparent when you have to expand submenus, or when you right click on ships, as if they were files on the desktop. -AI. The biggest and still on-going issue with the game is that ship AI not being very responsive. Fleet management can be a real mess if you don't look for clues when the AI is about to give up on you and do something stupid, like wander off to the distance, or just simply not follow orders correctly. Ships also fail to fly in a tight formation when in a group and sometimes defenders or a ship arrive too late to the target simply because they don't seem to recognize the location of the target has updated. This can make the game really frustrating and many end-game players give up at this point. But there is hope. These particular AI bugs are said to be really hard to corner, but the dev team is always on alert for these mishaps the AI may produce and look for a workaround.

The perfect game: Elite's size Star Citizen's ships Eve's economy X4's build and command capability

@efxnews4776

2 жыл бұрын

Space Engineers ship crafting... Or even better, Starship Evo crafting... Also i must add something here, what makes Star Citizen great isn't only their ships, in this regard its similar to X4 by the fact that you can also have FPS combat, you can carry guns and shoot other folks. And this is something that X4 lack, it does have a space walk feature, but it works the same way as a ship

@Zeroczar

2 жыл бұрын

definitely not x4 ship ai specifically the destroyer ai.

I begun playing this game few days ago. it's absolutly awesome. And every day this game shows me how deep it is.

Started with X-beyond the frontier, the very first game shortly after release and have played every game of the series. Will start a new X4-run soon i think.

@thesylance

Жыл бұрын

The sad thing is that, as far as I saw in the videos, in the english version the voice-actors did a poor job. The sssssssound of thhhhhhe Teladi withhhhh thhhhhheir hissssssing voicccces isssss not really pressssssent. And Boso Ta sounds like a normal Human. Since X is a german production the voices there are as they are intended to be. Adds a lot to the immersion.

I started it after getting bored of elite. Never spent so long trying to set up a hotas. And gave up on it. But as of writing this it is re-downloading. The 6.0 update seems like it made the game look a lot better.

I put only a hundred hour into it when released, but I had 600-700 in X3 back in the day. Also have a few hundred in ED as well. And I really like the combat in ED (combat in X3 basically sucks), but besides that, under the shiny graphics it feels empty and artificial. Nothing is persistent, as soon as I jump, I jump into a different instance. As I start mining, computer generated pirates appear from the blue sky. I never felt that I had any minuscule effect of the world on ED. But in X4 when I built my small station, it was not a large megafactory, just a small, decent enterprise, I just stood in the dock in awe an watching how my freighters are coming and going, how they are requesting dock permissions and docking, loading or unloading and going their way. Everything was alive, either with or without me, things just worked and happened. I never felt so immersed in a space game until then. Just forget about the story, X games were never so good at those, but if you like sandboxes, seeing a living, breathing, persistent universe, just give it a go.

@jh5kl

Жыл бұрын

the stories are good, the lore and background story are excellent, but the voice acting, dialog and character animation need a huge improvement

Thank you for the review ^^ I've played both SC&ED and I've over 1000hrs on kenshi. I'm looking for kenshi like game and I found this. I think I should give it a try :D

hahah i saw a familliar rage coming up when u were talking about SC

@Nyxson

2 жыл бұрын

The insane marketing that SC has by pitching it as a best game ever is insane! And that's what enrages me.

Honestly, I've just found your channel and I think I've found the best reviewer on YT. The quality of your videos is exceptional. No filler, no stupid skits, informative, engaging and well-presented.

How have I never heard of this? X__X This game is everything I wanted from Elite Dangerous. OMG.

@bencox311

2 жыл бұрын

It's like a single player Eve online, where you can actually control the ship instead of button smashing. If Eve ever incorporates a true physics based system/engine then I will probably be a player for life or until Star Citizen "releases". At the age of 31 I'm not sure which will come first though, my death or star citizens release date.

@Nyxson

2 жыл бұрын

May you live long year's but I am with you there 😂 I am 29 btw

Avorion is a similar game where you can build your own ship piece by piece, and you can have a fleet, stations, etc.

@Nyxson

2 жыл бұрын

Gotta test that, thanks for the info 👍

@Nemess4eva

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely try that one it's great!

@ickebins6948

2 жыл бұрын

Its great, playing it since the alpha. X4 has nothing on Avorion.

@bencox311

2 жыл бұрын

@@ickebins6948 Can you take over sectors of the map & police them? Like does the actual game recognize ownership beyond you've got a fleet in this area not allowing anyone you don'tw ant in, in? I've seen it on steam, if it overtakes X4 in it's ability allow me to feel like a regular guy dog fighting for a faction and allowing everything in between up to owning an empire and waging war on factions then strike me intrigued!

@Nyxson

2 жыл бұрын

Sectors can be yours (like really yours) and you can impose different laws and tariffs on ships and stations

holy crap how did i not hear about this game? this sounds great!

Great Review. Great Production quality and work on your videos. You're channel deserves ALOT more subs and attention

@Nyxson

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks 🙏 Eventually, we will get there eventually

My first contact with the X series was ... X: beyond the frontier. Skipped X2, played 3 and 4. Especially 2 and 3 were quite pretty for the time of their release. 4 not so much but it's still okay. The next update will enhance the graphics engine which might help a bit.

X4 is amazing. Now the the universe is complete its a good time for new players to start. I highly recommend Terran Cadet start for new players. I myself still learn and Terran cadet is very good for new players. The game cost without sale 50€ and is worth it, and 15€ per expansion. I can highly recommend this game you get so mutch out of it. Its a great sandbox game. But keep in mind you have to learn a bit but its worth it you can do so mutch stuff.

I mean elite dangerous doesn't have huge diverse stations like this. What I don't like about elite dangerous is that it's grind oriented. I like how I can have a fleet mine for me so I can obtain passive income. I'm still learning the game but so far its fun.

Love how comparing it to Kenshi sold it for me. Good video!

Omg thank you a truly in depth spoiler free honest review.

As far a learning the game because it's so complex, best way is to go through the tutorials and then start playing. You will have questions how to do something, look it up and after some time you will become acclimated to the game. I've played all of them except for Albian whatever, Rebirth and X4, and each time I feel like I have to learn anew, but after a while of playing you become use to things that you won't think about it, you'll just be immersed in that game world being a pirate or a trader or whatever floats your spaceship.

Gotta play the tutorials if youre just starting X4 (new players and X3 vets), there's so many features the tutorials are very very necessary to do.

There is THE X UNIVERSE COLLECTION on Humble Bundle for 16.40€. Just got it!

I picked the game up about three weeks ago and have 182 hours in it now. I would say it's worth it.

Sry, but, in what universe elite dangerous graphic is better than x4? X4 is Waaaaaay more beautiful and detailed as elite dangerous. I cant say anything about the other game cause i am not comenting on non existing games...

Hey ho great review - totally agree I´m hooked since x2 where we - the terrans enter - story wise - x3 was such a disapointment but now... heck, amazing - as many already said, it will own you as soon you get it! I am freaking galactic empire myself - create your own fraction. its just mind blowing what i wanna add it even has a great mods - so if all the vanilla isn´t enough / some of rebalancing - its all there - this game is with me for over a decade! nothing like it nowhere - and as a fellow german im quite proud for this super nerdy sandbox at its best :) peace also if you love tables and just data data data - you´ll enjoy it!

It is basically single player EVE Online and I love both :D Okay, as much as it hurts me to say this, EVE do not love so much anymore, since the PA take over. Which really saddens me, because I live and breathed EVE for a good part of my life :/

@jh5kl

2 жыл бұрын

Starbase from frozenbyte it s sort of eve online in first person in the aspect of everyone being in the same universe, players can build, trade, mine, siege other clans spacestations, buying and building ships, combat ships, mining ships, cargo ships etc, but you can also punch other people in the face, and the skyscrappers in the city in the moon actually have interiors

@ShaighJosephson

2 жыл бұрын

Yup... Pearl Abyss has been ruining Eve Online in their efforts to monetize it out of greed...

Thanks for the awesome video, I'm super keen to jump in and give this a go. This is actually available as a bundle on Humble Bundle.

I expect that the fact it's single player with no real multi-player is a bigger issue than the look of the game for many people, so I'm surprised you hit the graphics so hard, but skipped on that point. The graphics are fine, not the best possible but still looks really good most of the time. X4 Foundations is my favorite space game that's out right now, and it really doesn't get enough mention in space game videos on KZread.

@christianwest6635

Жыл бұрын

that would 100% destroy the quality of the game you people need to stop destroying single player games

@dh8203

Жыл бұрын

@@christianwest6635 I'm not sure how I'm destroying single player games, is it because I mostly play single player and I'm just wearing the games out from heavy use? Or maybe you misunderstood my point, I wasn't saying X4 should have more multi-player or be some kind of MMO.

@christianwest6635

Жыл бұрын

@@dh8203 people like you thinking everything needs multiplayer that why we got fallout 76 out of one of the best single player series of all time

@dh8203

Жыл бұрын

@@christianwest6635 LOL, yeah ok that's exactly what I was saying...... When I said I didn't think it should have more multi-player or be an MMO, what I meant was it should be more like Fallout 76! But hey, English might not be your native language.

Currently on huge sale on Humble Bundle with one of the expansions for 18 bucks.

i want to try this game for so long and now there is a big sale, plus a big update coming to help out with graphics so i finally pulled the trigger. Thanks for the great video

I played and loved the first x game (still have it in fact) I've bought every one since but never really been able to get into them like the first one. I have all the expansions for X 4 but to date haven't really got into it. As you said, its the learning curve that puts me off every time. I totally agree with your review and comparison with Elite except for the graphics. I think the graphics look fine. Different to Elite but still can be gorgeous and one more thing X games always excel at.....drum roll.... the music is top notch! Elite is definitely behind X 4 in the music score.

I LEFT EVE ONLINE FOR THIS LAST OCTOBER!!!!! I'll never go back to Eve now I have this. It's basically Eve Offline much like Sellaris)

My first space came Was galaxy on Fire for phone, galaxy on Fire 2 for tablet was great. No mans sky i like how developers Do with Free content Updates, but not my game....i tried for hours.... Know i think i wanna try x4 🙂

Answer up front, that is refreshing. Liked and subscribed! Thanks Nyxson.

Loved X3! Bought X4 on release but was severely underwhelmed.... I think I'll give it another try. Cheers man!

@marshallm.5397

2 жыл бұрын

me too, bought it on release and was dissapointed. I'm watching this video to see if its time to dive into it

@ifacecheck

2 жыл бұрын

yeah at launch X4 was really bad. Right now its where one would expect it to be, with all the DLC its great.

Me and my friend played X: Beyond the Frontier when it first came out. Like all of the X games I played it for awhile and never felt like I made it very far into it. I remember it made an impression though in just how open it was compared to other games of the era. Next game I played in the series was X3: Reunion. I hadn't been aware of X2 at all, but X3 blew me away.

As a X3 AP veteran, (in highschool, same as you! ) it makes me sooo excited to get my hands on X4 and explore everything that's improved since X3

Great and helpful review, thanks ! Seems the game is a bit what a sequel to Freelancer could have been. I too, will not speak about Star Citizen, in the same way I will not speak about Jodorowsky s Dune. Ever. It s on sales now, Ima gonna go for it...

I have played X2 & X3 and I never knew that they released an X4. Thanks for the info!

Viel zu Underratet ... Nice Video, i love X4 !!! Thanks Egosoft, my first Start: 3 Month 500h Playtime :) (Es ist jeden Cent wert, auch ohne Sale)

Fantastic review. I'm seriously considering it, but it also sounds like it might end up running my life...

@Lucpol1986

Жыл бұрын

Once you get to a certain point, it's soft touch and you can get on with real life stuff, whilst the sim runs in the background for you. Just the initial hurdle to contend with imho.

I started playing the series from X2 the threat. It was very demanding in hardware but still playable

Most of the series including X4 and one of the DLC's can be had for $23 (CAD) on a humble bundle right now. Thanks for helping me to decide whether to grab it (I did).

This game is insanely good. For me it's the best space game out there. I currently have 1,085 hours of gameplay, I have 35,000 employees working on my more than 60 stations and 1,200 ships, I have 77 Billion, you know what I don't have? a sector lol.. I like to play this game not as an empire but as a company, yes, a company that provides mining services, trade, manufacture and distribution of products, and that also earns money from war, yes, I have huge fleets and I use to benefit (or harm) governments, the economy, my pocket kkkkk. My company name is Cerberus (and yes the name came from Mass Effect kkkkk..) and it serves humanity above all else (most of the time kkkkk..). My point is, this game is amazing and if you have patience it will be very rewarding. For all its faults it is by far the best space game out there.

You can do a lot of this in a game called Avorion, you can build your own ships and stations and a whole bunch of things. That is very much an under rated game

X4 is the only X game I've played. Saw it on steam a couple years ago and bought it on a sale. Since then I got two of the expansions for free somehow, and I just recently bought the tides of avarice expansion. I used to play the game quite a bit but I game hop alot. Recently came back to this game and omg I can't get enough of it. My first goal is to eradicate the HOP if that's possible (I assume it is) Because screw those guys. They hate everybody and everybody hates them. I gotta hand it to them though, they gave me alot of free ships by just waltzing into my area and letting me board and capture them XD

This was a very helpful review. Thank you! I was also very into X3 back in high school and haven't picked one up since. I'm excited to give this one a shot.

I think people dismissed it because it is literally the opposite to elite, where elite is an inch deep ocean X4 is a Mariana's trench deep puddle, I mean I really really enjoyed learning X4 but it took me like 4 weeks to just run out of things to do. So people look at how complicated it is and how small it ultimately is.

@Lone88Wanderer

2 жыл бұрын

You know... that's actually an incredible description of both series. I tried multiple times to get into X4 but my interests are like in between X4 and Elite. I love the flying in the universe part of X, but don't want to do the economy empire management stuff.

I also played X3, when I was in high school... the game seemed super deep and very different. Now I just discovered that X4 exists , I think It is cool, hovewer not sure if now I have time to dedicate to such a game... I realized about time when AC Odyssey sucked about 60 hours of my time because of grind and because of too few fast travel points. I'm afraid this one would do the same. Thank as always for honest review :)

As a beginner to the series - should I go in order, or just jump to the latest? I have all of them and the expansions. Can you carry characters over from game to game? I did play X Beyond back in about 2000ish (date might be wrong) I loved it. But now I have a 5600X, 32GB DDR4, 4GB 1050Ti and a 4k screen.... so my experience as a pilot should be a lot more immersive! (Also, I am very unemplyed long-term.... so I have allday every day to dedicate.....) Seriously though - just skip to the latest one or start from the start? I'm guessing game-play and mechanics are best in the latest?

@Nyxson

Жыл бұрын

If you are gonna spend a lot of time, you might as well spend it on the latest. As for your specs, CPU and Ram are fine but GPU might be a little weak. Not that it won't handle it, but make sure you are not running the game on Ultra, you will be able to play like that in small confrontations but larger ones will be difficult to run

@damightyshabba439

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@@Nyxson Yeah, I definitely need to upgrade the GPU... But right now I have run out of things to sell!!!! Thanks for the info - I'll dive in at X4 and if I get bored work my way back. So.... see you about 10 years or so ;) THIS is why I spent all my money on a 4K screen and too much ram.... OK, my GPU is "alright" and I'm still running 6x SATA 7200's.... but my base system is solid. X4, Skyrim, Gal Civ... life is complete.

The last space game I played was Homeworld: Cataclysm. As such, the graphics look fine to me. They'd look even better if I used a more current PC.

Exceptionally well done and comprehensive review. Though I think the graphics look great with FXAA Max@6880x2880 or 4xMSAA Max@3440x1440.

Would love a VR version of this. Big fan of Elite, although I haven't tried the VR of it yet. Still getting my VR legs but it ain't bad. Just have to know when it take a break. I haven't tested it yet, but I hear games with cockpits, flight sims/space sims, are easier to deal with.

I'll say, X4 is a good improvement when it comes to empire building from X3. I played Albion Prelude for long enough to say, no, I'm not one of those dumb dumbs who hail X3 as the holy grail, it has problems. X3's biggest issue is that the UI is awful. Going through 4 or more different menus just to give a single unit complex orders, telling a certain type of ship in the sector to follow those same orders in the same process, having mass orders handed out because you have to micromanage every ship to ensure they're doing what you want them to. And you couldn't pause at all while doing this, meaning wasting precious seconds to a swarm of Xenon. X4 does away with massive windows of orders and has more or less the same, while spending less time sitting on a map display. And no, the special orders you could give did not entirely disappear or get dumbed down, more like a lot of the more redundant things got tossed out. Also, you don't need to blow through the bank buying a bunch of ship software just so dingas knows how to be a sector trader. Honestly, buying the software at all seemed really dumb, and hammered how for some reason, all of your ships were literally AI controlled, with no pilot actually in the ship. I thought the Xenon were the bots? Some things got a bit safety padded for newbies, like X4 being VERY forgiving in some aspects, like collision. Flying full speed in travel mode into something causes you to awkwardly bounce, when just rubbing up against the nose of a cruiser caused you to self destruct the second you made contact. Stations are also more condensed, but let us be honest, the station hubs in X3 basically did the same god damn thing.

I'm interested, never heard of this game before today

First of your videos I've seen. Brilliant work. Thanks. Keep doing what you do.

Started to play it one weekend ago. It is HUGE! I love it. It will take time to learn all about it but thats a good thing. Awesome is a good word to simply discribe it.

Played the first one back in the 90's. (Beyond the Frontier I think?) I still remember customizing the sign on my first energy plant and the epic music that played when you docked.

The difference between X4 and Elite: Dangerous. I never made it out of the hanger in Elite: Dangerous. X4 is a lot easier.

Nice overview of the game, thanks!

great review , mister. Thanks so much!

I was reading that the AI is dumb when fighting and suicide all the time, is this still an issue? It's the only thing that's preventing me from buying it.

Same, X3 Reunion was the first X game I played and immediately fell in love with it. Just the overall look and the set music you got when going into different sectors is what got me hooked, then I actually started getting into it. Though like I said in my own video X4 doesn't really capture that same feeling, the sense of grandeur you felt when going into a sector for the first time isn't really there anymore, there's no real sense of distinction or individuality with the sectors in X4 as there was in X3. Hopefully X5 will bring this back. X Rebirth was also a solid miss for me. Something also worth a mention is the insane modding community the X series has, has everything for full Starwars, to StarTrek and BSG overhauls (not sure if X4 has BSG yet?). I agree with all your points though, X4 definitely isn't for everyone but it isn't as difficult as it looks to get into. It just looks daunting because of it's scope. Graphically, perhaps the game could do with an HD texture pack? But like you said, it's by no means bad. Nicely done.

@deuswulf6193

2 жыл бұрын

The only thing I liked about X-Rebirth was the attention to detail they put into the stations and other objects in space. They were amazing. Many of ship designs were phenomenal. Everything else was horrible. You think they would have taken that art style and build X4 around it.. but no. They went with something that lacks... appeal.

@celestialflea

2 жыл бұрын

@@deuswulf6193 I have to agree, I'm not as keen on the artsyle of X4 compared to older titles, especially for the ship designs and as you said station designs but I think they perhaps had to make some sacrifices to allow for the modular functionality.

@deuswulf6193

2 жыл бұрын

@@celestialflea The stations in Xrebirth were modular. If I had to give a reason for the downgrade, it would either be their loss of original developers (those that left the studio) or their desire to iterate quickly via less involved assets.

@celestialflea

2 жыл бұрын

@@deuswulf6193 Oh, didn't know that but then I didn't touch X4 but even the designs in X3 are gorgeous.

It sure is worth it now. One of the best space games ever made.

Yup. X4 learning curve is super intense. Probably took me ~50 hours to feel total comfortable with the user interface - now at 120+ hours I'm sure I'm still missing things. Truly menu hell. But worth it to learn. Think I picked up the base game on sale for $15.

I hear X4 tomorrow getting a big update especially maybe one the biggest to the base game. Not sure if you do updated videos on these, but I think it be "worth it" to do one.

@Nyxson

Ай бұрын

Will release it today 😊

@StoneLegion

Ай бұрын

@@Nyxson Awesome. Timelines itself was not a massive hit for many people, I enjoyed it. But the actual Base part of X4 gets better and better the amount of work they put into 7.0 was massive :)

nice description, although I personally never noticed the graphics the way you describe it. But okay, I'm dealing with the X series since the first game of it (called "X beyond the frontier") and I played thousands of hours in them. So I am 100percent biased. From my point of view worth to add to your overview: X is still strict single player - even the first attempts of establishing collaboration with other players are currently deactivated. And the NPCs are really limited in their behavior - they are obviously there to do a job, they don't have a simulated life or even give this impression. You are really unique in your X universe - because you are alone. Really alone. Yes, fractions have a simulated behavior, but that's completely decoupled from the NPCs. What I want to say: as you mentioned, X4 is not for everyone. But I think the main reason for that is less the complexity (which is indeed really high). It's more that only a certain percentage of people will still accept the described approach of simulation in 2022, and will love the resulting challenges and opportunities. Many people might either expect sort of mmorpg setup, or a way more impactful simulation of the population behavior.

Thanks for the great overview! Been looking for another large-scale space sim to try out. What I'm really feeling is a game that supports in-depth mining/hauling and trade/economy gameplay. I feel E:D and SC have the best experiences currently for that style of gameplay (I know SC is still alpha, but I still think it's fair to compare with that in mind) Thing is, E:D is great but I'm simply burnt out having played so much of it and as much as I adore SC, I need to take breaks from the buggines occasionally lol. I do really enjoy mining/trading my way up to a large goal and the X series seems like it accommodates that playstyle and takes it even further with the fleet and station side of things. Have to say that aspect sounds incredible and not something E:D or SC are really going for. Look forward to giving it a go!

@Falk4711

Жыл бұрын

Did you try the game? It's on sale in the moment.

@12fishcake

Жыл бұрын

@@Falk4711 Playing right now actually haha, about 40 hours in I'd say it's worth it especially on sale. Expansions are worth picking up too if those are included because they add to the base game naturally. Bit of a learning curve as with a lot of these types of games but it's pretty good overall once you get used to it!

@Falk4711

Жыл бұрын

@@12fishcake You will get addicted 😉 I have around 400 hours. My favorit ship in the moment ist the raptor (carrier). Love it.

@12fishcake

Жыл бұрын

@@Falk4711 Raptor looks very fun indeed, so many fighters 😁

@Falk4711

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@@12fishcake You can walk inside the carrier and see how the fighters are starting and landing - like in the airyards, only bigger. It's amazing.

Wow. Been looking for a game like this. Got caught in the sunk cost fallacy with elite porting my old xbox commander recently for my new gaming laptop. Really pretty, great mechanics and all and the addtion of space legs is bare bones but fun. But as fan of elite from it's first day on xbox all the stuff you mentioned in this review is all the stuff I keep wishing for down the road but have come to realise probably won't be. As an alt game to invest time in this is definetely a contender. I tried Eve several times over the years, but as a someone with limited time for gaming I'll always be behind the curve for that one, so no empire/coorporation building there (got a full time job, don't need another on top of that). I don't have time for building relationships with other players as an esssential mechanic, so a game that's like elite but structured for you to build up your empire is definetely a good selling point. Almost fell into Star citizen, but fell back on that when I saw I only had one system to explore. While the game mechanics might have depth compared to Elite there's something about the realism as art and the pioneering spirit in Elite that keeps me coming back. This looks and sounds (by your review) like a good middle ground between Elite and SC. will definetely be looing at some gameplay videos now. Thanks again for the review, it definetely put this on my shopping list.

@jh5kl

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x foundations has a star wars mod for it called interworlds, the milenium falcon and razorcrest have full interior, the modders to parody a certain other game, have implemented a tram in same stations that players can actually use

The game and all its expansions are on sale right now.

Finally gave it a try after all these years and oh boy... This game has consumed my life! I'm so glad i stuck with it through the steep learning curve. As for the looks, I would say the graphics are "serviceable''. Not bad, not great either. But good enough to not break immersion. This game has been such a wild adventure! From fast food worker, to titan of industry, to para-military leader and defender of peace and justice. I love it!

X3 Mayhem(with Litcube base) mod isn't something you should miss.

I genuinely can not recommend x4 ENOUGH. This game and avorion are two of the most underrated space games ever imo

Me I got stuck in the tutorial man. Once I came out of the ship I couldn't get back inside.

Not gonna lie, your "overview" for the game has me sold. Every little thing you said, you made my space simulator/empire builder interest piqued. Mining ship? Mining fleet?? Fighters attached to defend the ships??? Carriers???? HUGE ASS SHIPS???! My god, man.. thank you for your review. I will be looking into this game a lot more now.

i respect your position re: star citizen, although as a playable tech demo it's still neat to look at. I'm a whale, myself XD I've got a small fleet of ships to my name as pledges. I like to be part of something while it's still ongoing, potentially able to influence its direction... but in the mean time, x4 might be right up my alley to scratch my dual flightstick itch

@Nyxson

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you feel that way. I just really hope that you didn't throw money away just for someone to spend it on useless things. I sincerely hope that

I love how X4 lets you hire AI pilots to work for you. Very underrated as you said.

@WeirdDuck781

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ikr sometimes i like to do the pewpew stuff, but most of the time i prefer doing some accounting and planning while the pilot pew pews away

I can't believe x3 came out 13 years ago... I feel old.

If you flood the market with an abundance of resources, will any A.I.-controlled companies also start building more assets since manufacture of everything has become so cheap?

Nice channel. Subbed

Good video. Thank you for helping me decide to buy this. It's on sale over at Steam and I am going against some of your advice and buying the whole bundle at once. I'll just jump in headfirst, lol. Cheers!

"High learning curve" As someone who don't know what to do after graduate from college, I can relate to that.

X:BTF was the first one for me.. it was also at time when no internet was available.. took months to get the grasp of it.. and even back then game was complex and complicated. But it was also missing some primitve functions like the map of the sectors/universe.. Literally had to draw my own universe map as i explored on A1 sized paper.. Next when storyline asked to go to specific sector.. there was no gps/waypoints in-game on where to go.. sector name is all you got :D.. Thus literally had to do some manual pathfinding on my beforementioned handdrawned A1 universe map. After such initial experiences.. all later X games feel like easymode sometimes. But overall the complexity just increased since then :) And one cant ignore the the quality of life improvements that came since then - especially now on X4 where the map alone can serve you as all-in-one interface for all the endgame stuff. One might even end up playing most of the end-game in that map x] - i been there :D

I can only agree. great video

Its like a private server eve online minus the "hire npc" part. In eve, you hire players to do things for you.

It's currently on humble bundle with Split Vendetta, I have a need that scratching so going to give it a go!

Characters walking around was not a thing in the X-series until like the last two games. You could get out in your space suit since the first game I believe, there was no walking around stations or on planets till like Rebirth and this game.