X-ray fluorescence spectrometer teardown

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Inside another bit of expensive oddball test equipment!
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  • @90SecondsofAviation
    @90SecondsofAviation10 жыл бұрын

    Mike ! PLEASE make videos more often, You can seriously make second income from them, because You are just so good, You explain everything great !

  • @TheEPROM9
    @TheEPROM910 жыл бұрын

    Your right we like old extensive odd equipment. Most things I own I have had a look inside. Even the car has had panels removed so I can peek inside.

  • @davespalla9684
    @davespalla968410 жыл бұрын

    Hello, I used to work for CMI, and it's possible I built that unit!

  • @davespalla9684

    @davespalla9684

    10 жыл бұрын

    That scanner board is Z axis protection, if anything breaks the beam, it would stop moving down. Or if the board is hit first, the switch would also disable the Z axis.

  • @Pillowtap
    @Pillowtap10 жыл бұрын

    Maybe it's time to do a teardown on the camera. :o

  • @robstorms
    @robstorms10 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic as usual Mike ! A real treat to watch ! Thanks for all the work !

  • @pepzi_
    @pepzi_10 жыл бұрын

    Mike, I love when you upload a teardown! :) I'm subbed to the EEVBlog too, but his teardowns are rarely as interesting as yours are! Keep up the awesome work and thanks!

  • @Bob3519
    @Bob351910 жыл бұрын

    Just my 2 cents. I worked in a metal finishing shop (electroplating) about 20 years ago. We used an X-ray fluorescence device similar to measure deposited (plating) thickness. This method superseded beta-back scatter for measuring. The equipment was very expensive. Tens of Thousands of dollars. They were very accurate. On special parts we measured with micro-cross section (cut parts in half and measure plating thickness under a microscope) to verify thickness.

  • @ProtectionDirect
    @ProtectionDirect10 жыл бұрын

    What a lovely surprise to find in my sub box!

  • @stevenking2980
    @stevenking29808 жыл бұрын

    One of your best videos!

  • @Richardincancale
    @Richardincancale10 жыл бұрын

    Don't turn it on - take it apart - then turn bits of it on! Really great video Mike - like the one you did with photomultiplier tubes...

  • @unlokia
    @unlokia10 жыл бұрын

    Happy Easter Mike :-) God bless you my friend - eat lots of chocolate! :-)

  • @stevenking2980
    @stevenking29808 жыл бұрын

    Love your tear down vids!

  • @HighVoltageProjects
    @HighVoltageProjects10 жыл бұрын

    Soooo interesting great as always .Thank you .John

  • @Coolkeys2009
    @Coolkeys200910 жыл бұрын

    Nice find, lots of goodies in there. I guess the x-ray tube filament was definitely open?

  • @wolfy9005
    @wolfy900510 жыл бұрын

    EEVblog ruler +1

  • @Exciting__Electronics
    @Exciting__Electronics10 жыл бұрын

    I work at a metal plating company that use xrf machines and they range from 30k to 60k new, cheers Mike always wanted to know what was going on inside them ;-)

  • @megasmart1337
    @megasmart133710 жыл бұрын

    Whats wrong with your camera today, mike?

  • @xjet

    @xjet

    10 жыл бұрын

    I think he had his rendering settings wrong -- bitrate too low.

  • @mikeselectricstuff

    @mikeselectricstuff

    10 жыл бұрын

    Nothing - I unintentionally hit "upgrade" in MeGUI and now it's broken & couldn't be bothered to try fixing so had to use a different codec

  • @Anamnesia

    @Anamnesia

    10 жыл бұрын

    I'm guessing the video camera recording was fine, but the pre-upload rendering settings were quite low... I stopped watching the video. :-/

  • @aserta
    @aserta10 жыл бұрын

    Naphtha. Use gloves. Cleans anything that it doesn't melt, and melts anything that it can't clean. You can also use the lighter gas if can't find Naphtha.

  • @elitejohnlp

    @elitejohnlp

    10 жыл бұрын

    Acetone also works well. I have a 'step' process when it comes to solvents. Start with the 'nicest' end with the meanest. Naptha, acetone, xylene, mek, 1,1,1-tce. If none of them can touch it - I don't want to mess with it.

  • @Spoif
    @Spoif10 жыл бұрын

    @mikeselectricstuff I really enjoyed this tear-down Mike. Thank you. :)

  • @DextersTechLab
    @DextersTechLab10 жыл бұрын

    Nice video, wonder if that silicone was liquid when new and has jelled over time with the heat/xray exposure?

  • @stonent
    @stonent10 жыл бұрын

    So with best sensitivity from 6 to 12 KeV, that's right around the midway point of soft X-Rays just getting into where hard X-Rays start.

  • @dinkc64
    @dinkc6410 жыл бұрын

    very cool, thanks for the video!

  • @africanelectron751
    @africanelectron75110 жыл бұрын

    you gotta love precision lab gear, looks home made but costs more than the gdp of small countries

  • @Falcrist
    @Falcrist10 жыл бұрын

    Is that one of the rulers from... IT IS OMG! :D I like your references, Mike. I wish Dave would include references more often.

  • @BarsMonster
    @BarsMonster10 жыл бұрын

    Actually you can focus X-Rays, if you use mirrors at a very shallow angle. You might find more details by searching "Kirkpatrick-Baez mirror". Nice teardown, life was so hard before non-cooled silicon drift detectors became mainstream...

  • @lewisbomby3454
    @lewisbomby345410 жыл бұрын

    By the way, the X-Ray tubes for these instruments are a shade under £3000

  • @Guysm1l3y
    @Guysm1l3y10 жыл бұрын

    A jackpot of interesting electromechanical gizmos!

  • @erikas6874
    @erikas68745 жыл бұрын

    Tearing down an X-ray machine. What are we looking for first of all? The PCB and the components ;)

  • @willfurnell
    @willfurnell10 жыл бұрын

    Nice interesting video :) Thanks!

  • @AliMirjamali
    @AliMirjamali10 жыл бұрын

    Very enjoyable teardown of an X-ray Spectrometer. Practical use of *EEVblog µRuler* at 19:15 and many useful parts to recycle at the end. Camera, Steppers, Power supplies, Tubes.

  • @voltare2amstereo
    @voltare2amstereo10 жыл бұрын

    methylated spirit works well for silicon, and it evaporates nice

  • @stevenhoneyman
    @stevenhoneyman10 жыл бұрын

    Can you add in the description a line about the quality please? I know it's not really your "fault" (I read the comment where you explained about software update)... but I've just changed a bunch of my graphics settings and this happened to be the 1st video I tried to watch since - spent a while assuming it was something I'd done wrong!

  • @FrozenHaxor

    @FrozenHaxor

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ahahahaha such a fail

  • @GearAcquisitionSyndrome
    @GearAcquisitionSyndrome9 жыл бұрын

    Mike, did you sell the GM tube assembly and HV supply? I wanna buy them for my uni thesis...

  • @TheStevenWhiting
    @TheStevenWhiting10 жыл бұрын

    Not enough mikeselectricstuff vids lately. I've had withdrawal.

  • @darrenolafson5266
    @darrenolafson526610 жыл бұрын

    The triax connector looks like the same type as in the eevblog Agilent B2912A teardown.

  • @yellofication
    @yellofication10 жыл бұрын

    I like the X-Ray Spex!

  • @lewisbomby3454
    @lewisbomby345410 жыл бұрын

    At 13:15 they are Z-Protection LED's. The idea is stop the carriage being smashed into the sample, possibly damaging the detector window.

  • @lewisbomby3454
    @lewisbomby345410 жыл бұрын

    At 4:24 it's a 2KV PSU for the detector.

  • @JacGoudsmit
    @JacGoudsmit10 жыл бұрын

    For some reason I thought that X-ray tubes have rotating parts inside them, but I don't see them in the video. Did you take them off for the demo, or are they just not used in this kind of tube (only on some other kind e.g. higher voltage), or are they there and I'm just not watching closely enough?

  • @stonent

    @stonent

    10 жыл бұрын

    I've never heard of X-Ray tubes with moving parts. Just the high voltage and the low gas pressure inside the tube are all it needs.

  • @mikeselectricstuff

    @mikeselectricstuff

    10 жыл бұрын

    Some high power tubes use a conical rotating anode to spread out the power dissipation at the target. Less common nowadays with better detectors

  • @Nitrxgen

    @Nitrxgen

    10 жыл бұрын

    You are right. Some older tubes will feature a spinning tungsten anode inside to keep cool via heat dissipation as they get very hot from the electron gun. Tungsten's melting point is 3,400 Celsius and conducts heat incredibly well. In some cases, the tungsten in xray high power tubes have been known to melt so it helps to increase the apparently surface area to the exposure of electrons, and in turn helps save a lot of bother with external cooling.

  • @kay486
    @kay48610 жыл бұрын

    what a score!

  • @stonent
    @stonent10 жыл бұрын

    Yet another "Here's something cool that I found" video where he takes it apart, rewires it and makes it do something cool. :)

  • @dtiydr
    @dtiydr9 жыл бұрын

    Only 5kV and you produce X-rays?! Although soft type but I never thougth that would be near enough for that.

  • @JimGriffOne
    @JimGriffOne10 жыл бұрын

    X-ray fluorescence spectrometers rule.

  • @6jesper6
    @6jesper610 жыл бұрын

    Mike, at 31:30 you have these wire clamps in your powersupply. What are these called? Or where can i find them?

  • @mikeselectricstuff

    @mikeselectricstuff

    10 жыл бұрын

    search wago 4mm at farnell

  • @6jesper6

    @6jesper6

    10 жыл бұрын

    mikeselectricstuff Thanks

  • @fuzzy1dk
    @fuzzy1dk10 жыл бұрын

    I'm a bit surprised it made much xray at only 6kV, afair the tungsten lines are at ~9kV

  • @danielhorne6042
    @danielhorne60427 жыл бұрын

    Have you got a box load of stepper motors and controllers or psu transformers to give away or sell ?

  • @redtails
    @redtails10 жыл бұрын

    19:27 oh, it's the micro ruler!

  • @Serostern
    @Serostern10 жыл бұрын

    To dissolve silicone you use silicone, or methylated spirits.

  • @ObviousSchism
    @ObviousSchism10 жыл бұрын

    What is the original purpose of the radioactive dinner plate?

  • @jo0ls

    @jo0ls

    10 жыл бұрын

    To get a vibrant Orange red colour they used uranium oxide. They stopped using it in the 1940s. The plates are known as Fiesta dinnerware.

  • @ObviousSchism

    @ObviousSchism

    10 жыл бұрын

    I guess it also keeps the food on the plate nice and warm. Thanks for the info

  • @cipndale

    @cipndale

    5 жыл бұрын

    My guess is to have ... dinner.

  • @MrDubje
    @MrDubje10 жыл бұрын

    So, I take it, the x-rays you were playing with in the end weren't that dangerous? The camera didn't realy pick up any of them. Very interesting video!

  • @tech4pros1

    @tech4pros1

    10 жыл бұрын

    the source of gamma he was using is an old fiestaware plate, that has uranium oxide in the ceramic glaze. it is a very low level source of gamma radiation and is safe to handle. also the sensor he is using is very sensitive to gamma radiation. some homes in certain parts of the uk need to have a ventilated basement due to naturally occurring radon gas coming out of the ground!!

  • @MrDubje

    @MrDubje

    10 жыл бұрын

    insanitybiker Thanks. Actually, I was refering to the X-Ray tube he used after that part in the video.

  • @MrStefanDz
    @MrStefanDz10 жыл бұрын

    £100 says that's an SG3525 PWM controller in the front end of that supply. Am I right Mike?

  • @km5405
    @km54057 жыл бұрын

    hey look its the resealing silicone potting again :P

  • @Pillowtap
    @Pillowtap10 жыл бұрын

    Whats the purpose of all the silicone gunk in that tube?

  • @TheEPROM9

    @TheEPROM9

    10 жыл бұрын

    It would allow for more effisiant heat transfer and electrical isolation.

  • @ratbag359
    @ratbag35910 жыл бұрын

    Very intresting

  • @devilmastah
    @devilmastah10 жыл бұрын

    You could propably do gamma spectroscopy with that tube

  • @redtails

    @redtails

    10 жыл бұрын

    kV is too low for that, only the higher nm of gamma are possible with this

  • @Tuttomenui
    @Tuttomenui10 жыл бұрын

    Beryllium window you say? be sure to wash your hands well after handling that. =)

  • @daveb5041
    @daveb50417 жыл бұрын

    '''''One of my favorites. Now lets crank it ]to 10 kv and sleep with it under our pilliow for white noise. an good rest.

  • @MegaFPVFlyer

    @MegaFPVFlyer

    6 жыл бұрын

    I think that's the most creatively deadly use of xrays I've ever heard.

  • @KirkOfBellevue
    @KirkOfBellevue10 жыл бұрын

    gasoline dissolves silicone

  • @seeindarkness
    @seeindarkness10 жыл бұрын

    Come on Mike, spend a few quids on a decent camera.

  • @stonent

    @stonent

    10 жыл бұрын

    He mentioned in an earlier reply here that he had a problem with his video encoding software and had to use something else.

  • @rtttrt76
    @rtttrt764 жыл бұрын

    F

  • @JustinAlexanderBell
    @JustinAlexanderBell10 жыл бұрын

    Video quality is horrible. : (

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