"Humanity would rather die than have kids like us" I mean...he wasn't wrong.

@syler100

Ай бұрын

Humans even destroy their own kind to achieve wictory.

@Harrison0411

Ай бұрын

Nope, he was 1000% right.

@disneyfan_1237

Ай бұрын

I'd love to have a mutant as a kid, as long as it's not a useless power

@falconeshield

Ай бұрын

It's called being gay in the real world ​@@disneyfan_1237

@rdowg

Ай бұрын

​@@disneyfan_1237 with an attitude like that, your kid's gonna be like that one mutant who was born with transparent skin 😂

I like how cyclops saw murder in everyone’s eyes and didn’t choose violence. lol.

Cyke is a true leader. Checks the readiness of his team before he makes a crucial decision.

@robertofabrizioiparraguirr6038

Ай бұрын

Better than the one we got for the last 20 years

@AzulApe

Ай бұрын

@@robertofabrizioiparraguirr6038just those awful movies. He was great in the comics and Evolution.

@godofwaifus1161

Ай бұрын

YeLlOw SPanDeX?

@manfmalachi

Ай бұрын

😊 absolutely. He knew they were ready to try another way

When Bastion said "Humanity would rather die than have kids like us" It clicked for me. If the human-sentinel hybrids are more like mutants than sentinels, and if we harken back to master mould's analysis of humans and mutants being the same, it just boils down to master mould controlling the mutation

@theouterheavengamingnetwor1442

Ай бұрын

Ding 🛎️ ding

@dantezenatirado4047

28 күн бұрын

Brovo! Gran conclusion

As a Naruto Fan, I approve Cyclops's Talk no Jutsu.

@jalonjones8567

Ай бұрын

Was waiting for this comment. As a fellow Naruto fan, I agree.

@samsaraslight8377

Ай бұрын

Yeah but unlike naruto, this was pragmatic. There was no conceivable way they could have saved Bastion from himself. Unlike Mganeto, who had multiple arcs that led up to his definitive change of heart at the beginning of the series.

@iancruz6617

Ай бұрын

No jutso your SS bub.

@matiasm11

23 күн бұрын

I can hear the sad naruto theme while Cyclops talk to Bastion

You really see how deep Bastion's hatred truly goes, he chose to die by the actions of humanity, rather then be saved by the hands of mutant kind,

@honeydroptheunicorn6557

Ай бұрын

Or he died to keep from turning humans into living robots, he been controlled and manipulated his hole life, he probably made this first free will choice of his life.

@NicoNicoNiincompoop

Ай бұрын

Nothing can change the path he was on

@miguelohara4716

Ай бұрын

​@@NicoNicoNiincompoop how about thanos MCU? And other criminal and villains are broken? Why people didn't want they're die?

@colecamp2539

Ай бұрын

He can burn in hell for all I care

@Gunther-mt2bk

Ай бұрын

Yeah……..all too familiar. But, that is what power demands.

I’m so glad that he got what he deserved. No second chances, no unnecessary redemption arc, no unexpected sympathy. You can still sympathize with him but still hold him accountable for his actions.

@anthonyapikyan1906

20 күн бұрын

same should happen to other villains, like Demona

I think that's her way of saying mutants are humans who taken the next step in evolution.

@LordVanOskuro

Ай бұрын

Except the x-gene isn't evolution. That's like saying inhumans are the next step. Also, she's saying this in regards to Bastion, who technically isn't a mutant.

@Huff-Productions

Ай бұрын

​​​@@LordVanOskuro it is, Bastion even says in the future they begin outnumbering humans 10 to 1. Mutants are also canonically genetically called homo-superiors to which humans are homo-sapiens and before on the evolutionary theory, homo-neanderthals

@LordVanOskuro

Ай бұрын

@@Huff-Productions About that, why should that be a good thing? Considering how Marvel portrays humans, why is having a bunch of them with powers a good thing? Not to mention children of the children of the atom, like Graydon and Anya, are they going to end up being 2nd or 3rd class citizens? What about non-meta mutants? Making any kind of metahumans the norm is not a good thing and shouldn't be treated as such. It's the reason why old stories portrayed supervillains out numbering superheroes. Even MHA addresses this, albeit also getting around most of it by having most meta-abilities be very low, sighting it as the reason One for All can't be given to everyone. Its why I hate Marvel only saying there are legitimate issues with mutants, but not actually showing them. Bastion does bring up good points with Val, but its hollow because we don't see it in practice. Closest was Colossus in the original series, but they don't bring up that issue, and focus on him being confused for Juggernaut somehow.

@Andy-su5wg

Ай бұрын

@@Huff-Productions Not really. They are the creation of certain big robot lads from space.

@Huff-Productions

Ай бұрын

@@LordVanOskuro I wasn't stating my opinion on Mutants, ĵust that in universe they are next up on the evolutionary theory

Cyclops: superpower = wears yellow underpants over the pants and still looks cool/chad.

Bastion's final statement hits hard.

@jordanloux3883

Ай бұрын

Yep, reminds me of every kid that gets disowned for coming out or tries to get 'cured' from being themselves...

@crowx5818

Ай бұрын

@@jordanloux3883 Oh please, spare me that bs, dont try to compare real life mentally ill losers with the mutants. At least the mutants are actually especial by having super powers instead of just mental illness.

@jordanloux3883

Ай бұрын

@@crowx5818 You've never actually met a queer person, have you?

A confused one Bastion is and there was no changing or remorse from him as seen in this clip. His evil consumed him and ultimately destroyed him.

@jordanloux3883

Ай бұрын

Bastion was forced to believe that he was normal when he knew deep down that he wasn't. He pushed everything down until he had nothing else to do but snap and let the sentinel programming take over.

@Ace-vf2uf

Ай бұрын

@@jordanloux3883 #Agreed.

If only he had learned to love a mutant, none of this would have happened

@TheIronWarlockXIII

Ай бұрын

And then a mutant/sentinel hybrid will be born. The next step for evolution. Or the extinction of humankind.

@jordanloux3883

Ай бұрын

If only his mom had accepted that he was more than human instead of just pushing everything down until he basically snapped

Jean being MVP in this series!!

This scene made me feel bad for Bastion, he had too much hatred in him

@miguelohara4716

Ай бұрын

​@@TheIronWarlockXIIIbastion is not mutant he human.

@christopherauzenne5023

Ай бұрын

Yeah same, this may be me reading into things but watching the show I never saw bastion as purely evil because he was never purely bastion. Nimrod/mastermold altered him from conception to think/BE this so it’s almost like he never had the opportunity to exist as bastion (a literal “clockwork orange”). He was forced to exist with the programming of the sentinels in his brain forcing him into this direction and mentality. Part of me wished he didn’t die because I would have loved for them to explore this concept more/see how a redemption for this scenario could have been done, but regardless this is still a solid scene and solid end

2:41 Bastion final moment

@MacUser2-il2cx

Ай бұрын

I think he's still alive. If he melded with Cable's arm and the arm had the time travel cube thing in it. that means Bastion is free to travel to any point in time he wishes. It's possible he sent the X-Men across time. Whether or not it was intentional, I have no idea.

Bastion wasn't hatred. He had a specific goal and vision. He wasn't hatred incarnate. And until the end he had dignity. Pure respect for him. I love this scene. Bastion got salvation before his destruction. I love this so much.

@romans8317

5 күн бұрын

Surely He IS The One Who Was Prophesied To Save Us From Those Evil Mutants ..

This is especially poignant if you recall that Bastion's mother was a white supremacist (she was the waitress who complained about Storm & Wolverine being together in the season 4 ep "One Man's Worth"). So you could also interpret this scene if Bastion was one too & was trying to be talked out of that.

@ThatGuy-tx4vm

Ай бұрын

Wait what? Is that confirmed?

@ThatGuy-tx4vm

Ай бұрын

Yep it is correct

Idk man, he massacred mutants, how can they try and offer to bring him in?

@mr_0n10n5

Ай бұрын

Make him atone. He would have ended in jail

@GaboObando

Ай бұрын

Magneto, Wolverine, Gambit, and Rogue also bad guys, some killed people. But if keeping the cycle of violence is not the answer, at the end Bastion died of his own actions But yeah fck that guy.

@SkilledNature

Ай бұрын

Same way Goku gave Vegeta a chance lol

@chriscolvin9815

Ай бұрын

And Naruto gave pain and Obito a chance

@eddyandresmartinezrodrigue7600

Ай бұрын

Also because the way things were going, some of them were going to die and that he was genuinely exhausted from this conflict that was not reaching any point.

Guys im going for the speech check

Bastion is the best TAS X-Men villain so far. Sinister........................yeah yeah, compelling, funny, satisfactory defeat. Apocalypse is on the same tier, so far. His defeat was also poetic, but he didn't lose his face like Sinister. Apocalypse still wans't broke on a psychological level as his Victorian student. Magneto is an Anti-hero, who else? it all leads: to Bastion, Sinister, Apocalypse, and random antagonists. As I said, TAS villains, don't start discussing Comicverse, other or animated properties. I just wanted to let you know that I won't respond. I love them too.

@farenhaid13421

Ай бұрын

Idk.... onslaught?

@romans8317

5 күн бұрын

Before Seeing This Series I Only Knew He Was A Half Master Mold/ Half Nimrod. After Seeing This Series - I Jumped On The Bastion Bandwagon Too Quick --- GREAT CHARACTER !..

❤❤❤

You know in a other show, a meta gene is seen as a way to advance humanity. But here the x-gene is seen as belonging to a different species that signals the end of humanity?

@LordVanOskuro

Ай бұрын

Because it is not supposed to be part of human biology. The Gardener created it. And considering how Marvel likes to portray humans, metahumans are not a good thing to begin with.

@hetaliafan117

Ай бұрын

Technically, the xmen are the result of the celestial's experiments on base level humans (recently, I think in the judgment day event it was revealed that mutants were revealed to descendants of deviants and baseline humans).

@LordVanOskuro

Ай бұрын

@@hetaliafan117 Funny how when Marvel tried to make inhumans like mutants, x-men fans disliked it, yet loved mutants becoming like inhumans.

@tek512

Ай бұрын

@@hetaliafan117 Close. Mutants are in some ways both humanity's evolution and the emergence of an entirely separate evolutionary line, an accident of sorts rather than the result of hybridization. The celestials just didn't become aware of it until entities like Franklin Richards (a mutant possessing the X-gene, despite all the confusion, while his parents would be classified as mutates due to receive their powers from an external source) began appearing. Even the first Apocalypse really didn't have any contact with them. He simply found the remains of an old celestial ship, merged with its technology, and rebuilt it. Judgment Day offered hybridization up as a possibility, but it was a character postulating what could be rather than being displayed as fact. A different panel shown quite some time ago displayed a celestial just full on admitting what mutants are and where they came from. Accompanying panels went into a bit of detail regarding what, precisely, happened.

@Anonomius0

Ай бұрын

@@hetaliafan117 But what about the series itself?

It all came to his mothers choice to keep him away from Prof. X. Even a decision like that. Which at 1. seems insignificant and inconsequential for the world as a whole, can have a dire consequences for everyone

These thought leaders there plans and dreams always hit an age..that by those movements alone cannot last so they give away to another dream or movement. Xaviers dream can stick if enough beings purposely pursue it regardless of the results. Hitting the resulting time of peace as often as possible until it sticks is the only way to finish things. The other paths only end in struggle and suffering and nothingness. It's all bigger picture. Even though only asgardians or celestials may live long enough to actually see it in a way to grasp it. Everyone else the plan outlasts average life.

Bastion was a warrior no doubt. 💎💎💎

@romans8317

5 күн бұрын

People Have Watered This Saying Down --- But Bastion IS Built Different .. He's Just Something Else ..

Wouldn’t Bastion be anomaly (Spider-Man across the Spider verse) because he was created when Nimrod, a future robot, mess with his fathers DNA when he was born.

@jordanloux3883

Ай бұрын

No, because this isn't a problem spanning the multiverse, just one timeline. Time travel is so common in Marvel that nobody is very shocked by it.

@brockbell9429

Ай бұрын

@@jordanloux3883 When still a by product of messing up time.

@jordanloux3883

Ай бұрын

@@brockbell9429 Cable regularly goes back in time to prevent the bad future he's from. Plus there's all the times that Miguel has blatantly ignored his own rules about interfering in the past to give Peter Parker a hand.

In the end humanity proved both Magneto AND Bastion right.

Bastion had me confused so why did he say yes to when he says the professor came to protect me?

@Bobo011

Ай бұрын

You misheard what was said: Cyclops: "Your mother lied, the professor came to you Bastion" Bastion: If she did, it was to protect me.

I don't think Bastion died, I think he is the one who sent the Xmen to 3000 BC 3062AD and brought Apocalypse to the present, to show the Xmen are the one who is wrong and the future sans Bastion is Apocalyptical.

@Harrison0411

Ай бұрын

He probably did but not intentionally.

Will bastion return ?

@Strang1Around

Ай бұрын

When the Second Coming of Hope happens, I imagine. tho that'd probably be 4-5 seasons out

@johnnygyro2295

Ай бұрын

If Bastion does return, I'll be surprised since it looks like he was atomized...

@umapessoa240

Ай бұрын

He fell in a black hole, which in sci-fi is basically a portal with little side effects. They’ll have him in the shelf until they feel like using him again I assume

@Guilherme-ms3ub

Ай бұрын

@@umapessoa240 i Just Hope he becomes a good Guy once.

@leisurelyindex

Ай бұрын

​@@Guilherme-ms3ubI don't believe every villain needs a redemption arc, but I'm curious why you think Bastion could be good?

Bastian is not a mutant, he’s a cyborg from what we saw in his origins. Jean should’ve held on to the phoenix 🐦‍🔥 force for just one last shot. To do same thing as Sinister. Remove the sentinel nanotech nanites from within him. I’m betting it was also fueling his hatred for mutants. So take those away, make him pure human, he might think and feel differently with no strings attached.

Did he survive or was he teleported to another timeline?

@ThatGuy-tx4vm

Ай бұрын

It is very possible that he survived. If the future hasn't changed then he is alive.

Storm has Halle Berry's nose.

why are they iphone and roblox oof noises

Writers got tired of us talking trash about jubilee and they gave one of the deadliest cqc scene on the show lol

I wonder why they change their uniforms

@bradfordc6471

24 күн бұрын

The mansion was damaged and they had to go to their alternative location which had all of their old uniforms.

Bastion was WEAK!!! He should’ve been less spiteful, and more open with his problems.

@Padtedesco

Ай бұрын

Spitefulness when dealing with emotional problems... The true signal of weakness

@colecamp2539

Ай бұрын

He got what he deserved

@farenhaid13421

Ай бұрын

He was PROGRAMMED from birth, one thing is psicological but his fate was that... which is not impossible to change but at the same time a titanic feat for one-self.

01:53 What does he say???

@trueblue6201

Ай бұрын

There's just one pickle, dear. Humanity would rather die than have kids like us.

@anthonyroberts7486

Ай бұрын

Because he knew they would use the Magneto protocol and shoot down Astroid M which will result in humanity dooming themselves because Astroid M falling to the earth would wipe them out aswell.

@HiveFleetOni

Ай бұрын

“There’s just one pickle, dear.”

@adnanaftab5542

Ай бұрын

​@@anthonyroberts7486 Seriously they just made stupid plans to see the good guys suffer

@anthonyroberts7486

Ай бұрын

@@adnanaftab5542 pretty much, but I assume they thought it would completely destroy Asteroid M and not just make it fall to earth.

I mean I love the series but come the eff on. Dude straight up committed genocide and 'we should embrace him because he's the future (whatever that means)'? How use the law and justice and sentence him for his war crimes ffs?

@garyconstanza3120

24 күн бұрын

way to completely twist words.

Disney: "Stop fighting the new world order.. embrace it"

Just How Great Is Cyclops ? , I Wanted Bastion To Win Until The Show Of Mercy & Great Speech Ftom Cyclops, How Great Are Cyclops & Bastion ? , F**king Great Characters..

I’m sorry but this shit pissed me off. Bastion has a body count in the 1000s. Nothing about him is redeemable.

@farenhaid13421

Ай бұрын

Ok a 1000... now may I ask how many people magneto has killed?

@javieravfs

26 күн бұрын

Magneto kills: 10000+

Yet mutants reject ai beings, due to their history with the Sentinels.

@thememays3285

Ай бұрын

a discussion for the x-men in the year 2077 when ai start developing conscience

@youraverageguy4930

Ай бұрын

J.A.R.V.I.S. is what I'd call an actual AI. Vision is also an AI and yet he and Scarlet Witch - a mutant and Magneto's daughter - are often shown to have a sort of romantic relationship. The Sentinels are just mere machines and tools. They don't have the capacity to grow beyond their main directive to annihilate mutants. Ultron is an AI, Vision is an AI, Ultron developed an Oedipus Complex towards Hank Pym while Vision determines that The Avengers were good people and turned against his creator - he even cried when the Avengers decided to accept him despite his origins. The Sentinels have no purpose beyond their predetermined one, and they don't seek purpose beyond their original programming. They're no different than a gun whose entire purpose to exist is to fire a bullet, just as Bastion would rather die than be saved by a mutant. The only regretable thing here is that Bastion isn't actually an AI, he's a person with the potential to grow past Nimrod's programming.

@BigK13372

Ай бұрын

@@youraverageguy4930Pretty much this. Like if it was characters like Vision, Jarvis, Machine Man, Dethlocke, Jocasta, Victor Manchia, Drax (he was originally like an android), Viv, Doombot and Rom the Space Knight that would be morally unethical on the X-Men part to do so. Otherwise the Sentinels don’t count due to lack of an actual sentience on their part save for a few rare exceptions.

@LordVanOskuro

Ай бұрын

@@youraverageguy4930 What about Danger and Warlock?

@youraverageguy4930

Ай бұрын

@@LordVanOskuro you do know that a huge element in Danger and Warlock's are their journey to understand themselves, right? Danger constantly shifts between being an enemy and an ally to the X-Men as her sense of morality developed, and Warlock didn't care about destroying his progenitor, unlike other young members of his species. He even joined the New Mutants as he befriended them. I think the problem with your line of thinking is that you think the X-Men despise AIs because some of their enemies utilize them. That sounds almost as ridiculous as thinking that the mutants hate people who wears pants "due to their history with bad people who wore pants".

Yes Mutants have always been a problem it's for time we got rid of them one and for all.

@jordanloux3883

Ай бұрын

"Run, before someone starts dreaming of camps." - Erik Magnus Lensherr

@Xcutioner220

Ай бұрын

@@jordanloux3883 Don't let me down - Magneto. We al know that he let us down.

Easy for the sanctimonious X-Men to say that when they are the future and not being trampled under

This was actually pretty lame. Dude was a genocidal madman that needed to be put down. Also he should have been way stronger than that sentinel. He was tanking hits from rogue the whole time.

@EmptyMan000

19 күн бұрын

So is Magneto. Also, the beatings Bastion took weakened him.

Really can't believe Cyclops would be willing to recruit a psychotic xenophobe that massacred Genoshia and turned half of humanity into sole less mutant killing machines. He would have gotten the death sentence if Kelly wasn't the Senator

@blacksage2375

Ай бұрын

You don't want to forgive the truly sinful, don't. But if you can't don't ever claim you place in value in forgiveness if it only applies to superficial things. Cyclops is married to a destroyer of worlds. Magneto has as much blood on his hands as Bastion, Logan tried his darndest to add to his kill count and while Rogue might only have killed one person onscreen it was a far more spiteful kill than anyone else there. Should all of them be killed eye for eye and tooth for tooth?

@colecamp2539

Ай бұрын

@@blacksage2375 I see your point. But Bastion and Kelly stubbornly hold on to their deeply disturbed ideals about fear, hypocrisy and prejudice and will not ever stop until their goals are achieved, without regard who gets hurt, guilty or innocent. If they cannot be convinced, they need to be contained so they can never be a threat to anyone or anything

@farenhaid13421

Ай бұрын

​@@blacksage2375 This is like asking if you would forgive a mass murderer who has a psychological disease that can't be cured, that is like saying every person deserves forgiveness... as sad as this may sound, that is a mistake, sometimes.. you have to make a hard choice because no other option will stop the casualties.

@EmptyMan000

19 күн бұрын

@@farenhaid13421 By that standard, the X-Men should have just outright killed Magneto years ago whenever they had the chance, Wolverine should have never been allowed to join the team and been locked up like an animal for all his kills, and Jean Grey should have been destroyed years ago due to hosting the planet-destroying Phoenix. Does that sound right to you? Because it would make sense based on your "hard choices must be made to stop the casualties" rhetoric.

@croat0381

7 күн бұрын

Forgiveness is something to work for, not something to offer