Xiegu employees repeatedly told me that they had a “significant” update that boasted some “exciting new features” being released in December of 2021. I recognized a couple months later that they were just trying not to let on that it was already abandoned, and I sold mine to a ham who wanted to experiment with it, and didn’t care that it was likely going to be an expensive paperweight. By now we all know that Xiegu likes the “ready, fire, aim” approach.

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

Sometimes they do a good enough job that its ok to play with for the price. This isn't one of those times.

@mdwestlund1

11 ай бұрын

The IQ to the back of the g90. The IQ to the back of gsoc. I've been using my gsoc for a while. The IQ cable is a special cable that came with it. Unless an Extra doesn't need to listen to a general.

@n4gix

7 ай бұрын

@@mdwestlund1 - You echoed my thoughts exactly. The I/Q cable is a must if you wish to see the waterfall. However, the waterfall does not shift along with the tuned frequency... I've had a G90 for about six years and love it. However, I did invest in the GSOC but have never even unboxed it as of yet. Now I'm not all that stoked about the expensive paperweight! 💩

I've actually been living under an Icom rock since I sold/traded the X6100. Never knew this existed. Looks like a grand attempt at the time.

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

It was just out of their reach.

12:00 SSOP = Shrink Small Outline Package. With through hole components we have DIP (Dual Inline Package) but for Surface mount we have different sized packages. The largest one you will usually encounter is the SOIC/SOP. There is also smaller ones like SSOP and TSSOP.

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

So many words! Thanks!

I bought the GSOC when it first came out and sent it back after three days.There were so many problems with the device. I have noticed similar problems, like the birdies, on the x6100 which I now have. If it wasn't for the x6100 alt FW, I wouldn't have kept it. Whenever Xiegu products are mentioned online, I think of the cover photo on the May 2021 issue of CQ magazine: It's of two young Chinese hams in Shanghai operating CW. Look closely in the background of the picture and they're using an Elecraft KX3. No Xiegus are in sight.

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

Smart move!

*Thanks for being AWESOME !!!*

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

Right back atcha!

This GSOC device is in needs of custom firmware development. It was always been an 'alpha' testing product, however potential is there for enterprising developers to make it work.

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

Like a lot of Xiegu products

As mentioned previously you need to connect the I/Q cable from the back of the G90 to the input on the GSOC. Also last time I checked the latest G90 firmware was not fully compatible with the GSOC.

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

It makes sense that it needed I/Q signals, but the G90's head works just fine without the I/Q cable, so it didn't make sense to plug it in that way... and I was seeing very weak hints at data on the waterfall.

@mattb9390

Жыл бұрын

@@temporarilyoffline Understood, just telling you how mine works.

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

@mattb9390 unfortunately, I don't think it merits trying again 🤣

@adventureswithsteve2981

11 ай бұрын

​@@temporarilyoffline serial cable is for Cat control

I got blutooth working - Radioddity seem to have taken this on .

@temporarilyoffline

22 күн бұрын

Sweet!

Is there a hidden setting for the carrier offset? That might explaib why we hear olivia on '074. Also, where can we make changes to the waterfall palette? A different color scheme would show signals better...

@Mach7RadioIntercepts

Жыл бұрын

"might explain" hehe thare's fat finger spelling.

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

I didn't see anything.

@yinglyca1

Жыл бұрын

@@temporarilyoffline Press function menu #7 RCLK frequency adjustment.......

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@yinglyca1

Жыл бұрын

@@temporarilyoffline de ve3tya

Thanks for the show!

@temporarilyoffline

11 ай бұрын

You bet!

Thanks for the work you put into the review. I find the GSOC a very good accessory to the G90, and despite the cost am very pleased with it overall. I do NOT have any problems regarding the accuracy of the displayed frequency. Did you check the RIT value I wonder? Mine is set to '0'.

@temporarilyoffline

10 ай бұрын

I didn't check it.

GT811 touch screen controller for those playing along at home! . :) Love the video TO!

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Thank you!

I got rid of mine because the support from xiegu was next to non-existent, and got a Yaesu 891. The G90 and the GSOC are pretty to look at but there're problems with long term support. The way it seems to me is they're more interested in whatever is on the drawing board next, not supporting what they have out there.

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

Thats Xigue for ya, yep

@barrymayson2492

10 ай бұрын

This seems to be the way they work in the whole of China, rather than fix a problem they produce a new design. It seems it's cheaper to do that fix issues.

I've got Armbian running on an sd card separately. You can also use gsoc usb cat control with original head

@temporarilyoffline

12 күн бұрын

It was a neat idea that could have been implemented better. They took the GSOC code and rolled that into the X6100. We got armbian working on the 6100 and soon the 6200!

I've seen them but never really understood them because the price was so high. Thanks for confirming my opinion on these T.O. :)

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

UBet!

Nice digs, TO! I can't think of a more disappointing product release by a commercial manufacturer in the ham radio space in recent memory. I pre-ordered one from Jerry Wanger at Connect Systems. He refunded my money when he got them in and saw just how dysfunctional they were vis-a-vis product specs. Seems Xiegu saw this too (WTF?) and ran to the X6100.

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

Right! Thanks!

I may have missed it in your connections but I did not see the I/Q port connected. The I/Q port is for input to the GSOC. Is it not required?

@temporarilyoffline

11 ай бұрын

Some people in the comments say they need it, others say they are successful without it. The G90 head doesn't need it, so why would the GSOC?

Thanks bro great video.

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it

I wonder if ya put it in LSB and then connect it but u also have AGC turned off

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

I wonder, but not enough to get it back out of the box ;-)

I love mine and works like a dream

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

That's awesome! I see a lot of potential in this product. I'm not sure if they will bring it back or not. Maybe an upgraded model?

So the use case might be... if im on the couch and the radio is on the desk nearby. I could get a 25ft. DB9 cable and enjoy the g90 from the couch. just saying. hell, for that matter, the g90 could be downstairs and I could upstairs. would be a very long cable, but still possible.

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

With hams, all things are possible

Re: the warranty stickers, those don't hold up under US law, you're allowed to crack open stuff you own. A moot issue at this point though haha. I really wanted this thing to work, never tried one. It's a shame because the g90 is the goat of HF portable rigs.

@temporarilyoffline

12 күн бұрын

I can't wait for a G90 update with the new "D-Core" and the linux guts!

Is that the GSOC I sent you? Yay!!

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

Yessir! Finally got a window to film it! Thank you!

@N4BUT

Жыл бұрын

@@temporarilyoffline I knew you’d see the same issues I had with it. It makes for an interesting review. It’s also bringing up some interesting comments. All I wish xeigu would address. It could have been a great product if only it got some dev attention.

I've always wondered, now I know, now I can avoid this. Always appreciate what you do, thanks.

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

This is why we're here - to call it like it is.

As always... great video TO. ;)

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Xiegu GSOC after latest v1.3 firmware update is mentioned on the SWLING blog page.

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

Nice!

Seemed like a good idea, I like the large display and touch screen, but the issues you ID'd outweigh and sort of defeat the benefits of the display.

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

Right! Like most things xiegu, a good idea, but rough around the edges.

Thanks!

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

Thank you too!

My G90 would not work on WJST until the mode selected was not on USB but on U__D for the audio to be correct.

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

Right!

Hi, would you be interested in reviewing our new Spectrum for the G90?

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

I would, please email me for more info. Temporarilyoffline@gmail.com thanks!

Seems to be a discontinued product. I was paying attention to it when they released it and it definitely had some growing pains (just like most Xiegu stuff) but all the negative reviews at the time seemed to have squashed their will to try to make it work. Probably didn't help that it cost more than the G90 it is meant to support, so sales were extremely slow. The idea was cool, but like you said pair it with a RTLSDR dongle and CAT control for a lot cheaper and you get similar function.

@mrbyamile6973

Жыл бұрын

The cost was the biggest barrier. If I wanted an expensive radio with bigger display I'd buy an IC 7300 (which is what I did) but I do have a G90 also and would like a bigger display. For maybe $200 I would likely have jumped on it.

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

So close...

Yep read the manual plug in the if lead.

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

Manual?

For my eyes I just wanted a bigger display. Glad it was out of stock. Is there any other possibility of a bigger display? 👍🇨🇭

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

Run the IQ cable to an RTL-SDR or a good sound card and use your 42" flat screen! I'll have to make a video on this.

@beemcbike

Жыл бұрын

@@temporarilyoffline Yes please. That would work for home use, but how about portable… 73 de HB3XBL 👍🇨🇭

@G6MDX-Dai

11 ай бұрын

@@temporarilyofflineeagerly awaiting *that* video!

@temporarilyoffline

11 ай бұрын

@@beemcbike Same thing, just use a smaller screen - even a 7" screen is bigger than the 3" screen in the radio.

@027MC7

9 ай бұрын

​@@temporarilyoffline I too would love to see that video. That small screen is the only thing keeping me from getting a G90.

Hi Steve, Well, at least you tried. 🙂I think it was Josh who did a review when it was first released and said "It was not ready for prime time". Stay safe. 73 WJ3U

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

A lot of the initial reviews weren't good.

I'm beginning to think hams should tell the main manufacturers to pound sand and work up from their own kits.

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

That was always an option

IMHO, GSOC is the most unsuccessful or failed product.

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

I think xiegu learned a lot making it, but it probably shouldn't have never been released to the public - or only as a teaser to create a stir.

@rst5nn

Жыл бұрын

@@temporarilyoffline Yes, discussing about this with Oleg R1CBU (dev custom firmware for x6100), he confirmed that internally x6100 is combination of gsoc & G90 with modification of finals (AMP)

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

@@rst5nn Yeah, the early X6100 firmware had bluetooth disabled, but halfway configured and we did some hacking on it. The display name of the X6100's BT device was "GSOC-BT" or something similar. There is a lineage there for sure.

Feels like the early revision sBitx.

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

But the sBitx worked...

Xiego had a great idea here but once again failed with the execution. Seems to be a repeating pattern with them ?

@temporarilyoffline

8 ай бұрын

If only they knew someone they could call...

I hate those button cell batteries. Any and every chance I get, I always remove them and use a much larger cell. As long as you have room you can make a 5 year battery into a 20 year battery. Thanks for the breakdown of duders teardown, brother. Good to see the guts of another oddball unit. 🤙🏽

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

I love looking inside these things!

@TheGeekiestGuy

Жыл бұрын

@temporarilyoffline I gotta get my mans on another oscilloscope and a frequency analyzer. I have ananovna on the way for some antenna ideas, but I wanna tear down more gear. I always find the weirdest crap in stuff.

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

@@TheGeekiestGuy that's awesome. Take a look at the tinysa too

@TheGeekiestGuy

Жыл бұрын

@temporarilyoffline damn. Now that I see that, I need one in my life. 😆 I gotta save all my pennies and pump out some content. I ordered a digirig with the nanovna, and I have a couple of ideas kicking around in my head. If I come up with something that might end up noteworthy, I'll hit you up.

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

@@TheGeekiestGuy I subbed, I'll be watching.

Sounds like they need to revamp their UAT process before releasing.

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

I'm available

Always FW issues, even X6100 isn't perfect due to slow official FW support, Xiegu should release FW source code, maybe then this GSOC device can do more. It is better to use IQ out with sound card input to have 196khz waterfall using HDSDR and cat control via USB.

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

Totally Agree!

That Why I only by Japanese Brands Radios because of Their High Quality Standards! Unlike the Chinese Brands!

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

Exactly

@Grumpy_Cyborg

Жыл бұрын

I only buy Japanese 705 for the same reason. But I just bought a X6100 yeah its got faults birdies runs hot an imperfect interface..... but its almost a disposable bargin. If they leave the backdoor open (which they have with the X6100) then its potential with a community of hackers cant be overstated. But this product is flawed from the start. So OK its a big miss. But at least they are being innovative unlike some Japanese companies who gave us the FT818 at a time when it was exact what wasn't wanted. Oh that got dropped as well. I try and keep an open mind not get blinkered. Though I have a Japanese radio, television, car, expensive watch and expensive telescope. I try.

Ouch

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

Yes

that's so weird, I want one lol

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

I coulda been something.

I wanted to like the GSOC, but after the initial release and maybe one firmware update, I was disappointed in several items that I thought could have been done better or corrected from the start. I moved on and don’t regret my decision to have myself some money and not purchase the GSOC.

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

Its a shame that xiegu seems to not learn from their successes and failures. I have a G90, absolutely love it. Fantastic little radio for portable/SOTA/POTA use. It is SIMPLE and it works. But in stead of building on that, the newer models seem to be all about trying to cram the bells and whistles and "nice to haves" into smaller packages and ending up with "so-so" products in stead of a product that sells out at least once a month.

@temporarilyoffline

9 ай бұрын

Its not just Xiegu - all makers are making products that are sometimes a dozen or so rungs down on the ladder from our expectations/desires... We still buy them because we really have no choice and we still want to play.

Gsoc runs doom, debian and possibly Armbian. So much potential and x6100 got more love

@temporarilyoffline

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, they didn't even make it work with other radios. Very weird.

TO: Looks like an empty Rabbit Hole!

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

Comin up short!

Wow, glad I never invested in the GSOC.

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

Right!

Love my G90, but glad I stayed away from this piece of poo. I would rather spend my money on the X6100 or the 5100.

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

The 5100 is one of the better radios they have made. It's still on my list.

I wish the G90 base unit was IP67 and had an open sourced ethernet connection to the head unit. With a Xiegu supported PC driver that supported a virtual IO audio adaptor and a cat control com port.... But then dreaming . Or go one step further with wifi and a android tablet or phone app I know if I was making an open source G90 I'd do those. With the gsoc they prove to themselves that there isn't a commercial market for it. But I know anyone adding ethernet and IP67 is going to add $5000-$10000 to the price for no good reason.

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

Right, good thoughts

Glad I didn't get one of those lol.

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

Right!

you did not connect the iq up

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

I did not get a manual with it. (I could have looked it up) My assumption was that the G90 head can work with just the 9pin cable, so this device should also. I was seeing very light signals on the waterfall too.

I was really hoping this would take off and would actually be universal. That price ruins it

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

That price is killer!

I've been a ham since 1967

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

Excellent!

your point is

@stahpit1971

Жыл бұрын

sharp

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

Sorry you missed it.

i dumped all my xiegu rigs after getting burned on the gsoc (was one of the first to get one)... never again will i give my money to xiegu as a beta tester... terrible company

@temporarilyoffline

11 ай бұрын

I'm not usually an early adopter for that reason. Good call!

Plug in Iq cable.

@temporarilyoffline

11 ай бұрын

Check the comments, that works for some people and isn't needed for others.

Talk about missing the mark! Wow. Pretty dumb but, "Chyna!".

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

Right - I don't think I've seen a positive review of this yet.

Just. Do. Not. Buy. It. Sent mine back. It would not do the most important thing needed -- TRANSMIT! Support was good on return but useless on troubleshooting.

@temporarilyoffline

7 ай бұрын

Brian is correct!

My GSOC works perfectly.

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

Do you have the IQ cable connected? That appears to be something I missed.

@101jumpit

Жыл бұрын

@@temporarilyoffline No i didn't.I was using USB voice though not digital :)

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

@@101jumpit voice here too - I'm getting heat for not plugging in the IQ cable. Sounds like it works either way.

Surprise, surprise! It’s cheap Chinese junk and it doesn’t work. This video just reinforces my position on these things.

@bassmanjr100

Жыл бұрын

I'm not saying I disagree, but most components in every radio are probably built in China. ICOM, Yaesu, you name the company. China manufacturers 90% of PC, 75% of solar panels, 70% of phones, 50% of pork, on and on. Western markets have made manufacturing ridiculously expensive with overbearing regulations and taxes.

@truckinguy92

Жыл бұрын

@@bassmanjr100 yes I know that, but Icom & Yaesu use better top tier components whereas the likes of those other companies use bottom tier components. The cheap radios are missing important filtering that makes them barn door receivers and splatter boxes.

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

They are on a path to take over the world...

@truckinguy92

Жыл бұрын

@@temporarilyoffline 😂

Turn it off and back on....

@temporarilyoffline

4 ай бұрын

This is a universal constant

@ward5821

4 ай бұрын

My did it once, and that is how I fixed it. So "just saying".@@temporarilyoffline

that gsoc is a pile of garbage

@temporarilyoffline

28 күн бұрын

Agreed!

If you're to have any credibility on these reviews then you should at least know what you're doing. Otherwise it's just another opinion among dozens of others.

@temporarilyoffline

26 күн бұрын

If you're to have any credibility in comments, you either need to be more specific in a mature manner, or at least understand the message of the video before commenting. Looks like you're having trouble with that.

I regret buying this! There is a need to update and fix may issues, especially the birdies and interference. I will not long purchase a Xiegu product because they just abandonded us on this. N5ANY

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

If this was my first, it would be my last.

I'm so glad I didn't buy one of those.

@temporarilyoffline

Жыл бұрын

Me too!

Hello.As an early adopter this thing never worked for me. And dont forget it was delayed a year to begin with .Sorry but a piece of . I always enjoy your vids. Except when you tried to compare the x6100 to the icom 705 you did yourself a disservice frankly. Ron. Z.WA3090SWL.

@temporarilyoffline

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching, if I recall, the 705/6100 comparison was done before the product was available based off of "news"... They are much different rigs of course and I find myself using them both at different times for their individual strengths.