WTF Happened To The ROLEX Day-Date?

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Join us as Christian dives deep into the world of Rolex to explore a fascinating question: Why doesn't the Rolex Day-Date receive the same level of appreciation and popularity as the John Mayer Rolex Daytona? Was it because Rolex dropped the ball on its marketing? Or perhaps with all of the hype regarding the Daytona and John Mayer's stamp of approval, maybe it was just that no one knew or cared about the Day-Date? In todays episode, Christian compares these two iconic timepieces, examining their histories, design elements, and the cultural influences that have shaped their respective reputations.
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  • @Rosay__
    @Rosay__21 күн бұрын

    Love these longer-form chats about pieces you really enjoy and why they’re both important and special

  • @Viggy666
    @Viggy66628 күн бұрын

    I'd say there are multiple reasons why that particular version of the Day Date hasn't blown up and probably never will. 1. 99% of Day Date buyers want the entire package - Presidential bracelet included. 2. If your considering a 36mm it's probably because you like the more modest vintage inspired look. Then you are better off buying an 1803, 18038 or 18238 since the brushed lugs are so much more attractive and are not as ostentatious and blingy as the later references. 3. If the blingyness of the newer Day Date references appeal to you, you're most likely the type of person that'd rather have the 40mm version. In my opinion, the only reason why anyone would buy a Day Date 118xxx reference or later, over an older reference, is because of the updated bracelet where you get solid links and ceramic sleeves. Since you don't get a bracelet with your particular Day Date that's kind of a moot point.

  • @GrumblingForesight

    @GrumblingForesight

    28 күн бұрын

    Good points!

  • @LanguagesWithAndrew

    @LanguagesWithAndrew

    28 күн бұрын

    "If your considering a 36mm it's probably because you like the more modest vintage inspired look." That, or you've got teeny-weeny girl wrists like Christian.

  • @melbedewy

    @melbedewy

    27 күн бұрын

    Excellent.

  • @IamnotJokic

    @IamnotJokic

    9 күн бұрын

    Spot on. The presidential bracelet is just as iconic as the day display itself.

  • @jonchase1076
    @jonchase107628 күн бұрын

    It’s the leather strap. If they offered them with the bracelet AND the strap, they’d sell more

  • @jordanmichael6623
    @jordanmichael662328 күн бұрын

    Love the Green and Gold DayDate. 36mm on leather, perfection 🥃

  • @IamnotJokic

    @IamnotJokic

    9 күн бұрын

    Disagree. Putting a DD on a leather strap is a crime. The presidential bracelet is just as important as the day display.

  • @Pakiboyo
    @Pakiboyo28 күн бұрын

    Bought this watch straight from the AD in 2017 at 20% off. Those were the days…

  • @MIAthe305
    @MIAthe30528 күн бұрын

    Can’t talk about that Seawolf without mentioning the stunning neon minty green triangle at the 24-hour mark on the bezel - it just POPS! against the bakelite bezel

  • @uncles2000
    @uncles200028 күн бұрын

    John Mayer is cool and Paul Newman was cool. Your rich uncle from the 70s and 80s wasn’t cool. But he was wealthy.

  • @thefunksbeats

    @thefunksbeats

    28 күн бұрын

    Paul Newman is cool John Mayer is okay at best 😅 also my rich uncle WAS badass and so was his watch 😅

  • @DrIstoris

    @DrIstoris

    28 күн бұрын

    @@thefunksbeatsokey at best? He is one of the best guitarists in the world. Lyricist? One of the best in the “pop” scene

  • @MattSeesGray

    @MattSeesGray

    28 күн бұрын

    John Mayer absolutely fucking rips on guitar. He’s not that same pop sensation he was when he was 22.

  • @thefunksbeats

    @thefunksbeats

    28 күн бұрын

    ​@@DrIstoris he's overrated as a lyricist he is definitely a great guitarist but I think people dick ride him a lot and it's annoying 😅 sorry y'all don't like my opinion

  • @DrIstoris

    @DrIstoris

    28 күн бұрын

    @@thefunksbeats have you listened to for example stop this train? Lyrically it is fantastic

  • @masonlexioneill2386
    @masonlexioneill23864 күн бұрын

    love your charisma and passion for this topic! it was engaging all the way through and also provided alot of that was new to me.

  • @jameshop
    @jameshop28 күн бұрын

    I think that green is the pick of the bunch 3:12 Sir Jackie Stewart has been rocking it for years.

  • @floridaboybrandon954

    @floridaboybrandon954

    28 күн бұрын

    That cherry dial , the green and the cognac are the definite winners

  • @jeffdj1975
    @jeffdj197528 күн бұрын

    It exploded because it was John Mayer that said it’s a sleeper. If it was Tucker Carlson, ya think it would’ve blown up??

  • @MaartenAnna
    @MaartenAnna23 күн бұрын

    I’m usually not a big fan of the Rolex green, but I kinda like this watch with the green dial on the green leather.

  • @granthowse6289
    @granthowse628928 күн бұрын

    I love the Day-Date. Been looking at getting a 18238 for around two years now. It’ll come.

  • @user-kv9qv9vg9c
    @user-kv9qv9vg9c27 күн бұрын

    Love nkuwan the way you show it! You really focus on showing off the watch. I don't think any other KZreadr can show off watches in as much detail as you.

  • @donaleeesio
    @donaleeesio25 күн бұрын

    Who the hell is John Mayer?! I wanna hear about Yngwie Malmsteen's all gold Rolex collection along side his Fender Strat collection, Marshal amps, not to mention his awesome Ferraris.

  • @dr.supersnake4627
    @dr.supersnake462728 күн бұрын

    Congrats on this video . The best one I have seen from you .

  • @lawatson123123
    @lawatson12312328 күн бұрын

    Is this a social experiment? "How influential am I?"

  • @carlodelavera9735

    @carlodelavera9735

    27 күн бұрын

    Lol I was thinking the same

  • @beerkegaard
    @beerkegaard27 күн бұрын

    A Day date needs the gold bracelet. Really not a fan of the leather straps people put on them when the vintage bracelets fall apart

  • @Richardperricone
    @Richardperricone28 күн бұрын

    Great video as always you’ve influenced my collection over the years thank you

  • @AndreaDoesYoga
    @AndreaDoesYoga28 күн бұрын

    🤔 The Day-Date mystery is intriguing, great investigation! 🕵️‍♀️

  • @ListenToPowerViolence
    @ListenToPowerViolence28 күн бұрын

    Your DD is ten times classier than the John Mayer Daytona.

  • @chipmacgill

    @chipmacgill

    27 күн бұрын

    I can’t stand the Daytona in YG. I am a huge Daytona fan in steel (my daily 116500) actually had the 126500 as well, got rid of it. I do like it in plat also, but to me any sports watch in precious metals is a pimp watch.

  • @BasedHadrian
    @BasedHadrian28 күн бұрын

    The day date is still amazing I want one….texas timex baby

  • @theiastcowboy

    @theiastcowboy

    28 күн бұрын

    Is it bad that I want one more, because of that nick name 😝

  • @notenoughtime7274
    @notenoughtime727428 күн бұрын

    Beautiful watch, and a great find. Congrats. Has this dial been brought back in the 2024 Day-Date release (yellow gold green ombre dial) ? Look similar I do love it on a strap though, colorful but tones down the full gold a little....this era feels like the Day-Date equivalent of the Daytona Beach

  • @VMIyanks04
    @VMIyanks0428 күн бұрын

    That is a stunning watch for sure! Maybe the blue one is now my grail!

  • @samhalsey5051
    @samhalsey505111 күн бұрын

    The reason the day spelled out on the day date is better is because it works better with the mind. On many seiko watches it will say “SAT” we don’t speak or think that way we think and say “SATURDAY”. It’s easier on the mind 😊

  • @josephgrigsby4394
    @josephgrigsby439428 күн бұрын

    Your advice on doing your due diligence and not waiting for someone else to tell you to like something applies equally to any long-term investment as well. 🔥

  • @LivingInAlpharetta
    @LivingInAlpharetta28 күн бұрын

    The Cherry one is on the short list of hopeful pickups this year, so underrated.

  • @Anglo-Saxon4231
    @Anglo-Saxon423111 күн бұрын

    That watch is gorgeous. What a beautiful example of a day date. My favourite watch is the yellow gold president bracelet with champagne dial.

  • @christianebert8086
    @christianebert808621 күн бұрын

    Christian, the first and second picture in this video showed the day date at a the jubilee bracelet? right? So the three-link president bracelet came later? just asking ..... Great video - Greetings from Germany

  • @marvinsaunders2563
    @marvinsaunders256328 күн бұрын

    Congrats on the watch. The green and gold combo looks awesome.

  • @clintschmidt7379
    @clintschmidt737928 күн бұрын

    Great vid! This is peak T&H if you ask me

  • @umq5147
    @umq514727 күн бұрын

    There’s also a 40 day date yellow gold / green dial that came out about 3 years ago. I wonder what your thoughts are on this beauty

  • @ilyashevchenko8819
    @ilyashevchenko881927 күн бұрын

    Great video as always man! I need your help! I’m struggling to pick which Daydate to go for. Onyx with diamonds or flat green YG. I like them both equally! Which one would you go for in the current market? 🙏🙏🙏

  • @americantarmacker514

    @americantarmacker514

    17 күн бұрын

    I’m in the same boat I’m about to pull the trigger on a day date 40 I’m not sure what to buy I love ever rose so I’m torn between the olive or the isenkiesel and the only yellow I like is the green or the onyx I believe those will be the keepers for the long term

  • @Ilikeavocados822
    @Ilikeavocados82228 күн бұрын

    absolutely love this video! I also absolutely love avocados!

  • @dhwjohnston7212
    @dhwjohnston721228 күн бұрын

    Wearing two watches at the same time looks weird. But a good discussion.

  • @_jeep392

    @_jeep392

    18 күн бұрын

    Damn not if you are talking about them.

  • @Darreninnyc
    @Darreninnyc28 күн бұрын

    I will only to leather strap with a deployment buckle. The excess is too ugly for me. Please tell me that’s aftermarket?

  • @frankespinal2086
    @frankespinal208626 күн бұрын

    Love that watch and color

  • @alexjaybrady
    @alexjaybrady21 күн бұрын

    I have blue dial 36 fluted bezel stick markers white gold strap its cold 🥶 And bimetallic lady datejust with green dial 💚 Both are perfect imo

  • @bombazine2
    @bombazine215 күн бұрын

    Yellow gold is fine for evening wear. It’s just too loud for daywear unless you live in Dubai or Monaco, for example.

  • @mattkanfer7256
    @mattkanfer725627 күн бұрын

    Solid vid. Keep it up

  • @kalamala13151
    @kalamala1315128 күн бұрын

    Call me silly but I love the presidential branchlet way more than the case. If Rolex made precious metal presidential branchlets with a Rolex emblem on top without the watch as silly as it sounds, I would rock it!

  • @c1pher428
    @c1pher42820 күн бұрын

    36mm white dial DayDate is the only Rolex I want, I believe this is one of their most versatile pieces. Dress it up or with a T-shirt and jeans, absolutely timeless.

  • @clplara
    @clplara28 күн бұрын

    Oh man that Day-Date is awesome

  • @neil4701
    @neil470128 күн бұрын

    Totally agree that vintage = value. There is a whole nested set of levels at which this maxim operates, however, depending on brand status. What people new to watches don't realise is that brand status and visibility in the vintage era wasn't always aligned with how we see the same brands today. This means that there is *spectacular* value in vintage watches from brands such as Longines, Girard Perregaux etc, even Japanese market Seiko. Watches that were really high quality, truly innovative and in every way the equal of Rolex when they were made (even using dials made in the same factories, for example). My own collecting focusses on such watches from the late 60s and early 70s, and I've just started a blog (called Moonage watches).

  • @ianmedium
    @ianmedium28 күн бұрын

    Back in the days when you could actually walk into an AD I was in Bucherer in Vienna and they had both of these in the cabinet and for me, the DD was the one I would have chosen and I loved the shade of green both on the dial and strap. The Daytona green for me was a bit uncouth.

  • @ralphplazachesmarhomes
    @ralphplazachesmarhomes21 күн бұрын

    That day date is gorgeous. Is so true new watches are not as special as those oldies. I have a 16800 sub that absolutely love more every day.

  • @burgholte
    @burgholte28 күн бұрын

    My next purchase will be a 118239 Cherry Dial, so please don't mention this watch too much just yet :D

  • @chipesque
    @chipesque28 күн бұрын

    That seawolf is badass

  • @fullymechanical9055
    @fullymechanical905528 күн бұрын

    Don't like the pin buckle on the other side of the strap. I think GS often do this too. Beautiful watch though.

  • @maleci314
    @maleci31428 күн бұрын

    The day date just screams old people. Will i probably get one eventually as i get older myself? Sure. Would i rather have a more sporty model for now? No brainer.

  • @omar10213245

    @omar10213245

    28 күн бұрын

    Agreed. I've always felt that a platinum daydate would be my retirement piece, when I'm in my 60's

  • @geass2015
    @geass201528 күн бұрын

    I feel like the yellow gold and the green face roman numeral day date would be a better comparison

  • @johnjohnsson9903
    @johnjohnsson990328 күн бұрын

    Man, love this collection. Totally agree that they're among the best that Rolex has released in the last 25 years.

  • @oliverjames6913
    @oliverjames691318 күн бұрын

    For me, growing up I always associated the Day Date with geriatrics, war lords, and dictators. Especially in gold.

  • @crimclay1077
    @crimclay107728 күн бұрын

    A lot of truthful statements in this video.

  • @TheHoth1
    @TheHoth128 күн бұрын

    It has always been a mystery to me why this day-date complication is in such high regard. My lowly SKX has this complication too like for $200.....lol!

  • @jaywhite1141
    @jaywhite114128 күн бұрын

    I’m a watch collector I’m to get a Rolex OP 36 mm for my 20th birthday in 5 years but first I’m getting a Tudor black bay 41 black dial rubber strap

  • @abrracadabrrap789
    @abrracadabrrap78928 күн бұрын

    This watch never looked special for me... never looked even average.. there are so many much more interesting pieces on the market in this and lower price range..

  • @chriselley2261
    @chriselley226128 күн бұрын

    So, now that you have this green D/D, would you consider selling your purple one? I love, love that one. Would want to put it on a gold bracelet though. Reach out if you’d be open.

  • @nsteranka
    @nsteranka24 күн бұрын

    Rolex used to offer leather straps. I think that they could make a comeback and offer bracelet and an appropriate leather strap. Cartier does it and we love it.

  • @gaffs82
    @gaffs8228 күн бұрын

    The John Mayer skyrocketed because of the Daytona hype. it’s the only Daytona with the green dial . Day dates have always been easy to obtain because you can go back 50 years and get one.

  • @ClayOnEarth
    @ClayOnEarth21 күн бұрын

    Hey that's my watch!

  • @gregoryrogalsky6937
    @gregoryrogalsky693725 күн бұрын

    I wish you would have spent more time on the Zodiac Sea Wolf GMT.

  • @Newerasamearea
    @Newerasamearea28 күн бұрын

    Its mad that you wouldnt speak your full truth without being paid.

  • @technom3598

    @technom3598

    27 күн бұрын

    ?

  • @jamessymington2466
    @jamessymington246628 күн бұрын

    Trouble is that they are just a little ostentatious and arriviste. Scrap metal dealer that hit the big time kind of watch. Doesn’t take away from the fact that some of them are quite attractive.

  • @inlandwatchreviews5745
    @inlandwatchreviews574526 күн бұрын

    I am retired and have the Tudor Date Day 36 mm, Vice President.

  • @TheParth23
    @TheParth2328 күн бұрын

    My dad’s about to retire, and I’ve asked my AD for a 228238 White Roman dial. Hoping to obtain it.

  • @Drew10006
    @Drew1000628 күн бұрын

    Class ..... 🎉 pure class day dates date just OPs SkYs.. classic lines such elegance 🎉

  • @solidstream13
    @solidstream1320 күн бұрын

    The Zodiac has a black and grey GMT bezel like the new Rolex GMT.

  • @areebsyed3662
    @areebsyed366227 күн бұрын

    Double wristing crazyyyyyy

  • @fallingwickets
    @fallingwickets28 күн бұрын

    last i looked, the puzzle (dream watch for me) isn't even on the rolex website. How many billions do you have to have in the bank to even ask for one???

  • @Mr-Merchant.
    @Mr-Merchant.27 күн бұрын

    If you where really shopping for a new daydate, you would cross shop other brands and for £30K+ you can get PP, AP and VC or a gold Daytona.

  • @Hartwell10
    @Hartwell1027 күн бұрын

    I NEED SOME WATCH ENTHUSIASTS OPINIONS I’m leaning one way on the following purchase. But want to make sure I’m not making a mistake here.. would you rather purchase. 36mm Rolex Explorer 46mm IWC big pilot Or 36mm Rolex Explorer 41mm Tudor black bay gmt - Pepsi 40mm Grand Seiko heritage spring drive

  • @MistaLanky

    @MistaLanky

    26 күн бұрын

    2. Definitely number 2. Add the IWC later.

  • @ListenToPowerViolence
    @ListenToPowerViolence28 күн бұрын

    If too many people get to skip the waitlist will a new waitlist develop of these VIPs?

  • @TimothyKasch-fm7bn
    @TimothyKasch-fm7bn28 күн бұрын

    Because it’s a 36 mm a little boys watch. The 40 mm olive green day date was plenty popular because it’s actually a men’s size.

  • @cjdontthink2
    @cjdontthink228 күн бұрын

    I love my seawolf. I have a datographic white dial and it is very romantic

  • @IamnotJokic
    @IamnotJokic9 күн бұрын

    Putting a DD on a leather strap is a crime. The presidential bracelet is just as important as the day display.

  • @nikosb1978
    @nikosb197828 күн бұрын

    Why is he wearing two watches?

  • @rampantcolt
    @rampantcolt28 күн бұрын

    Wearing my 1803 wit 10ct diamond bracelet now

  • @RAJohnson713
    @RAJohnson71328 күн бұрын

    You should put it on a period correct presidential bracelet, would love to see it.

  • @johnfrei9057
    @johnfrei905728 күн бұрын

    Looking a lot better without the ‘stache my friend.

  • @user-rs8sy3if7o
    @user-rs8sy3if7o27 күн бұрын

    At nkuwan it's not just a watch; it's an art piece. Each design is crafted with unique inspiration and craftsmanship. The exquisite production process reveals not just a watch, but a fashionable feast for the senses.

  • @rsvpben
    @rsvpben27 күн бұрын

    Not him trying to create the „Theo Day Date“.

  • @DC-si8xw
    @DC-si8xw28 күн бұрын

    Is this tool wearing two watches I can't with this guy

  • @zoranristc6152
    @zoranristc615227 күн бұрын

    We miss so much guys Christian I love your chat with them when u are alone in video its bit boring sorry, but your Advert for Aqua terra and Longiness that was the best Video about watch I ever see , it was different it has Heart , story flowb💘

  • @willieoatnet5396
    @willieoatnet539628 күн бұрын

    Will get a day date one day. Yellow gold

  • @archonpericles
    @archonpericles28 күн бұрын

    What did it cost you?

  • @vincet6730
    @vincet673028 күн бұрын

    The DD looks great, but to me it remains an old men‘s watch, nowhere near the Daytona

  • @timur9429
    @timur942927 күн бұрын

    100% Team Cognac

  • @modernworldiscrap
    @modernworldiscrap28 күн бұрын

    The DD was the king in the 60 70 and 80’s

  • @affegorilla1299

    @affegorilla1299

    28 күн бұрын

    Still is

  • @jeffb321

    @jeffb321

    28 күн бұрын

    Still my favorite Rolex model!

  • @modernworldiscrap

    @modernworldiscrap

    28 күн бұрын

    @@jeffb321 which one?

  • @jeffb321

    @jeffb321

    28 күн бұрын

    @@modernworldiscrap yellow gold, with a white or gold dial. Roman or stick markers, just depending... ❤️

  • @modernworldiscrap

    @modernworldiscrap

    28 күн бұрын

    @@jeffb321 love the 18238

  • @clarencebenjaminlim
    @clarencebenjaminlim28 күн бұрын

    Its always an uncle/auntie watch. Even im an uncle now. I wont be seen dead wearing last generation's watch.

  • @ianmatthewdavis3578
    @ianmatthewdavis357828 күн бұрын

    Random question for the community, but I’m looking to buy my first dive watch with a budget of around $500. Obviously done a lot of research but just curious if anyone had any “budget” divers they love!

  • @anthonyamato6367

    @anthonyamato6367

    27 күн бұрын

    Citizen titanium diver or Seiko Prospex SRPF03

  • @SamuraiJackson

    @SamuraiJackson

    27 күн бұрын

    Lorier Neptune IV or the Baltic Aquascaphe

  • @01skat
    @01skat28 күн бұрын

    Ladies & gentlemen: the Zeron day date

  • @josecarlosvillalomeli5690
    @josecarlosvillalomeli569028 күн бұрын

    Zeron really thinks he can make an impact in the watch scene, doesn't he? This delusional KZreadrs are quite something

  • @Sasquatchi
    @Sasquatchi26 күн бұрын

    Narrator: "Prices did not go up"

  • @watchrolex
    @watchrolex19 күн бұрын

    Why are your wearing two watches?

  • @tonyl7000
    @tonyl700027 күн бұрын

    Because John Mayer?

  • @_taxman_
    @_taxman_27 күн бұрын

    Why is this guy wearing 2 watches?

  • @_taxman_

    @_taxman_

    27 күн бұрын

    Also, why is he wearing his straps reversed?

  • @carreralicious

    @carreralicious

    22 күн бұрын

    At least he’s not wearing an outdoor jacket indoors. Some watches come with straps reversed like that on purpose with their clasps. I don’t like it that way, but some do.

  • @lv293

    @lv293

    19 күн бұрын

    @@_taxman_because he’s a boss you peasant

  • @mdtell
    @mdtell28 күн бұрын

    Can presidential bracelets be paired with these references?

  • @floridaboybrandon954
    @floridaboybrandon95428 күн бұрын

    Does that 2 tone black and grey Bakelite bezel GMT Zodiac with the green accent look familiar to anyone ? 😂 Rolex just stole Zodiacs Design

  • @VmanStudioz
    @VmanStudioz27 күн бұрын

    I get very tired of telling newcomers to Rolex, when you’re done playing with tin-can Sport Rolex, when you grow up and become a real man, or woman, all roads lead back to the Rolex Day-Date. AKA Mr Valjoux

  • @johnnyxmusic

    @johnnyxmusic

    21 күн бұрын

    Well… People do save up money to buy the Rolex that they’re dreaming of… But Rolex wants them to buy a couple of cheaper models to show that they are members of the stupid faithful. You know it’s easier to buy an indulgence from the church. Even if you have to invent a time machine to get one. In other words… You do have to feel sorry for the people who suck up to Rolex… Even though they apparently make a very fine product.

  • @michaelnissen4322
    @michaelnissen432227 күн бұрын

    Double "fisting" is so uncool

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