writing this piece taught me a lot
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Allegretto for Bassoon, Perscussion, and String Orchestra in A Major - Yoav Shati (2024)
This piece was written for the Fun Musical Challenges competition in April that challenged everyone to write a piece of music without using the tonic note or any chromatic notes, which is 6 out of the 12 notes in western music. I tried to make sure this piece is very clearly in A major with the harmonies eventually wanting to end up on the tonic chord of A major, but without ever using the tonic note itself
I think this challenge is quite extreme and I wouldn't restrict myself this much in other pieces, but I learned a lot from writing this, both about playing with harmony and creating expectations that way, and about playing with other dimensions of the music to make convincing transitions and endings (with a lot of help from Alan Belkin's book "Musical Composition - Craft and Art")
Score: musescore.com/user/27851272/s...
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instrument list:
solo bassoon
timpani
snare drum
triangle
first+second violin sections
viola section
cello section
contrabass section
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This is a fun experiment, and you knocked it out of the park!
@yoavshati
28 күн бұрын
Thank you! I hope the judge of the competition thinks the same
@dsctunes
28 күн бұрын
@@yoavshati Good luck!
@yoavshati
28 күн бұрын
Thanks
I’m glad to see my challenge suggestion wasn’t entirely terrible, but you did indeed do a very good job on this (I am not responsible for any music-related injuries this challenge may have caused)
@yoavshati
21 күн бұрын
Your idea was really good
The ending is very pretty to me, very simple and calm. Well done :)
@yoavshati
23 күн бұрын
Thank you! I think the ending took me longer to compose than the rest of the piece so I'm glad you like it
אחת היצירות הטובות שלך. אהבתי מאוד.
Really super cool! Wonderfully orchestrated
@yoavshati
24 күн бұрын
Thank you! I think this is one of my best orchestrations so far, especially with the percussion
@aliciadalbey1201
23 күн бұрын
@@yoavshati Yeah the snare drum adds so much to the texture!
I love this a lot
@yoavshati
24 күн бұрын
Thank you!
very nice
@yoavshati
28 күн бұрын
Thanks! I like your profile picture! I might upload some Shostakovich related videos in the future
@allegroconfuoco6
27 күн бұрын
@@yoavshati Thanks! that would be cool. I'm also going to start uploading some compositions and recordings, maybe want to do a collab or something (just an idea). Cheers!
@yoavshati
27 күн бұрын
@@allegroconfuoco6 That could be interesting! Looking forward to seeing what you upload
what program are you using to write this? love the sound quality of the instruments!
@yoavshati
13 күн бұрын
MuseScore Studio 4 with Muse Sounds instruments
Was this using Musescore? I'd also like to know more about this place where they challenge you to write pieces like this. It sounds very interesting!
@yoavshati
23 күн бұрын
It was composed using MuseScore 4 with Muse Sounds, and the challenge is from the Fun Musical Challenges group musescore.com/groups/fun-musical-challenges
@rainbowsong909
23 күн бұрын
@@yoavshati musescore 4 is absolutely amazing for being free.
Where did you get the musical challange about not using the tonic?
@yoavshati
26 күн бұрын
There's a group on MuseScore called "Fun Musical Challenges" that has a monthly competition
0:30 bassoonist will rather die, than playing so this high on it. (The 2 octave's up without preparation is unreal)
@yoavshati
26 күн бұрын
I thought this might be problematic... Would it be better if the two notes before it were an octave higher so it's a smaller leap?
@ImJumber
26 күн бұрын
@@yoavshati just transpose on octave below (notes that in treble clef) I'm not bassonist but I know it's hard for winds play something far than nona (7+2) I guess (maybe in octave or little far). But defiantly not so far.
@eldavide6155
26 күн бұрын
I see no problem tbh, they're not slurred and because of that the bassonist will add a pause, like an "elegant" staccato
@hectorrbassoon
26 күн бұрын
@@yoavshatiNah bassoonist here that’s really doable if the bassoon player is a bit good, listen to jolivet or gubaidulina concertos to see real difficulties JAJAJAJ
@yoavshati
26 күн бұрын
@@hectorrbassoon This could be part of a concerto with this ensemble so the player should be good
I don't know much about classical music, what are the instruments?
@yoavshati
26 күн бұрын
I put them in the description in the order they are in in the score
Hi, you probably used Musescore, would you share which sound library you used?
@yoavshati
23 күн бұрын
I just use Muse Sounds with MuseScore 4
@JanCarlComposer
23 күн бұрын
@@yoavshati Thank you! And well done btw.
Cool! One small detail, the pizzicatos are generally written as a crochet or aquaver but never as a minim👍
@nickthechicken11
26 күн бұрын
I think it's more of a phrasing thing
@alessandropradella4457
26 күн бұрын
@@nickthechicken11 it is possible to give an indication to "let ring" next to a crochet but minims are not used for pizzicato, at least if you read scores
@yoavshati
26 күн бұрын
Thank you! I don't remember why I notated them like that. Maybe because it's a relatively fast tempo so the low strings' pizzicato lasts for that long, but I don't know
@juneyoo
26 күн бұрын
@@yoavshati Actually, half- and even whole note pizzicatos are permissible in the low strings (though this comes with the implication that the players will also start counting the rests in the phrase exactly rather than relying on performance practice or ear; if you want ringing for the whole phrase, l.v. is better), but definitely only in the bass and *maybe* in the cellos.
@nickthechicken11
26 күн бұрын
@@alessandropradella4457 we must have been reading different music lol. doesn't really matter, as long as it sounds good
That is a very stupid challenge, the ear always finds a tonic and the tonic here is clearly E. Instead of A major it just sounds like E mixolydian without a fourth. But the piece is nice, and that's the most important thing.
@yoavshati
24 күн бұрын
I asked on Reddit and most people who responded agree that it's in A major, but there was one person saying it's in E mixolydian As you say, that's not as important as the piece sounding good, so I'm glad you liked it!
@claudiomonteverdi7126
23 күн бұрын
@@yoavshati If you make pasta carbonara without pasta you just have an omelette with bacon. It can't be A major if there's no A. One could say that it is in the same harmonic universe as A major because of the three sharps, but as I've said the ear always latches onto the lowest note of a passage as a tonic. The only mode of A major that can give a sense of tonal ambiguity is Locrian (A major starting on G#), since it has no perfect fifth. Also playing with harmonies built on seconds and fourths. Just some food for thought for your next experiment.
@yoavshati
23 күн бұрын
@@claudiomonteverdi7126 The thing I disagree with (which is subjective) is that I feel like the E7 chords in my piece have dominant function and want to resolve to A. That's why I wouldn't call it anything other than A major despite there not being any A notes. If I ended the piece on an A chord with the note A it would sound great and very resolved in my opinion I uploaded 2 short pieces with fourth based harmony as shorts to my channel, if you're interested, and there are 2 experiments with my accompanying thoughts on my MuseScore page I also have a piece here that changes keys every 4 measures, and 3 pieces using the 12-tone technique, which might also interest you. If you have suggestions for more interesting experiments I could learn from I'd be happy to hear them