Hi Christian. Long time fan. I need to tell you that crescent wasnt an Islamic symbol until Turks conquered Constantinople. It was originally the seal of the city, which the Ottomans adopted as the "heirs of Rome". Moreover, crescent swords started showing up in the Middle East with the Turkish immigrations to the region. (11th century) Iranians and arabs alike used straight swords until the Turks showed up. It's a matter of preference -fighting on horse back, being able to hit from real close etc- that did it for the Turkish soldiers.
@1Phokion2 ай бұрын
Interesting. I am pretty sure of the crescent as early as the 8th century. But I am willing to be wrong! As to curvesmd curved swords vs straight-of course! Islamic Mamluks preferred straight blades; the Swiss used a curved sabre, as did other Christians. I’m speaking of a general cultural affinity as an influence on weapons
@batulefou
2 ай бұрын
I didn't mean to say you are wrong or anything. I hope my comment didnt come across that way. The early Muslims, especially Arabs werent keen on using symbols (due to blasphemy as i gather. However they did use likeness of people on their coins which is a contradiction) on their banners and coat of arms. Muhammad and later the Abbasids used a black flag without any drawings on it. Though some early Muslims did use banners with symbols, mostly letters. About the crescent and the star; it's actually bonkers that Turks adopted it because the reason Constantinople had this coat of arms was because Byzantion had it earlier. Because Byzantion's patron Goddess was Hecate, the goddess of magic whose symbol was crescent and star. History can be so cool sometimes.
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Hi Christian. Long time fan. I need to tell you that crescent wasnt an Islamic symbol until Turks conquered Constantinople. It was originally the seal of the city, which the Ottomans adopted as the "heirs of Rome". Moreover, crescent swords started showing up in the Middle East with the Turkish immigrations to the region. (11th century) Iranians and arabs alike used straight swords until the Turks showed up. It's a matter of preference -fighting on horse back, being able to hit from real close etc- that did it for the Turkish soldiers.
Interesting. I am pretty sure of the crescent as early as the 8th century. But I am willing to be wrong! As to curvesmd curved swords vs straight-of course! Islamic Mamluks preferred straight blades; the Swiss used a curved sabre, as did other Christians. I’m speaking of a general cultural affinity as an influence on weapons
@batulefou
2 ай бұрын
I didn't mean to say you are wrong or anything. I hope my comment didnt come across that way. The early Muslims, especially Arabs werent keen on using symbols (due to blasphemy as i gather. However they did use likeness of people on their coins which is a contradiction) on their banners and coat of arms. Muhammad and later the Abbasids used a black flag without any drawings on it. Though some early Muslims did use banners with symbols, mostly letters. About the crescent and the star; it's actually bonkers that Turks adopted it because the reason Constantinople had this coat of arms was because Byzantion had it earlier. Because Byzantion's patron Goddess was Hecate, the goddess of magic whose symbol was crescent and star. History can be so cool sometimes.