my theory is that HHH played nice with all parties, but booking Cody to win the rumble and then giving up his spot on smackdown for no real reason was him playing the long game knowing there would be backlash that would eventually get him the match he wanted… but hey… that’s just a theory. a conspiracy theory

@scotland9922

19 күн бұрын

4d chess

@mattgrant2639

19 күн бұрын

Hunter remembers what happened with Bryan when they brought in Bootista. Banking on them hating them bringing Rock in as much

@Bizzybanks24

19 күн бұрын

That’s exactly what I got from it

@TIGHTESTJEANSPART2

19 күн бұрын

100% HHH is the game for a reason.

@KillaKamBoi

19 күн бұрын

Cerebral Assassin

The rock can politick Hollywood executives, but the golden shovel remains undefeated 😂

@SS-tg8lf

15 күн бұрын

Rock didn't politic nothing. They literally agreed for him to mainevent WrestleMania 40. Then HHH and Rhodes went against the plan last minute. 😂👍

@Luke21-xk7uh

13 күн бұрын

​@@SS-tg8lfThe plan was supposed to be Cody vs Roman and then the Rock went over Triple H's head and went straight to the executives (Who don't watch the show) and told them how he was gonna save wrestling. Then when it didn't work in his favor, he took credit for the success of Wrestlemania because he changed his mind and decided not to be a complete scumbag.

@geekbro6265

13 күн бұрын

pretty sure half of hollywood cant stand him anymore

I think it may have come down to Dwayne's decision to pivot. But I don't think he did it for the fans out of the goodness of his heart. He probably did it because he and his P.R team was terrified of the huge mass public backlash towards him, how it could damage his overall image and how it would affect all of his films, businesses, etc long term.

@pastorcodymitchell1456

18 күн бұрын

Mhmn

@y3ee3e

18 күн бұрын

be honest. who wants to be hated by millions. it's not an ego thing...it's a normal human trait lol

I was on the fence when it came to watching this documentary but I called Nick and then I called Ari and I said "I'm gonna be the best documentary viewer the world has ever known." Nick replied "Love it.", Ari then replied "FUCK YEAH I LOVE IT" and then we were off to the races.

@21pandas_

19 күн бұрын

😂😂 documentary viewer!

@WhelmedButReady

19 күн бұрын

This comment is gold 🔥

@WrestleJuice

19 күн бұрын

@@rawbserver Rawb 10.0

I like that Rock was so salty that they didn't wind up going with him and Roman as the main event, and the HHH basically forced his hand by having Cody win the rumble.

We need a documentary about the making of the documentary now

@bigyodatheman

11 күн бұрын

It wouldn't surprise me if there was a lot of Vince in it they had to edit out.

to me it felt very much like an in character backstage interview about mania with highlight reels

The Rock LOVES himself: the documentary

@kinnikuboneman

19 күн бұрын

What else were you expecting

@chriskimmel7736

19 күн бұрын

So are you saying you don't love yourself?

@dreamshakejunya

19 күн бұрын

lol what Mount Rushmore top guy doesn’t?

@joegardner851

16 күн бұрын

Dude, I love myself. I’m a flaw human being and try to do good. However, I crack myself up 😂

@boycottactivision

15 күн бұрын

So let me get this straight, you think the WWE which has always be stubborn when listens to the fans, not on Bray Wyatt, Not on Daniel Bryan, not on CM Punk, were the ones who did the quick story 180 not the Rock Who's always adapted to the crowd? Just say you hate The Rock.

There was nothing really in that documentary we didn't already know. It was basically just the rock patting himself on the back for always being the one apparently 'making the calls' 😅

@chriscollins550

19 күн бұрын

There's an interview with triple h just before wm, I think it was on the pat show. Anyway triple h on there told it how when down and it was the rock who contacted him saying, it won't work him and Roman but what if I turn heel, triple h said it was the best idea and the rock was behind it all going the way it did and working out how it did, why would triple h lie he's has no reason to.

@TrueAussie26

19 күн бұрын

@@chriscollins550 never said he lied haha

@ianbyrne465

5 күн бұрын

@@chriscollins550He has every reason to, when the Rock is on the board of WWE’s parent company.

@chriscollins550

5 күн бұрын

@@ianbyrne465 triple h said all that before anyone had knowledge of the rock being on the board. It's just using something to try and back up a silly opinion

holy crap. I was just looking for more discourse about the documentary and I ended up finding one of my childhood yt favorites. I used to watch all of your ftw videos back in the machinima days. Glad I found you again. Man, what a blast from the past. Subscribed.

This felt like a propaganda piece a politician would put out before they announced they’re running for office and the rock painting himself as the savior of the situation he made the call to pivot was humorous editing by WWE trying to make him seem less selfish trying to make him seem like the good guy he portrays himself to be, but as many thousands of people were saying in the live chat and I can see from the comments people are saying here none of us bought that crap😂😂 he tried to Black Adam WWE he went above Triple H above the creative team he went to the tub got his way and then what we didn’t see in this documentary was Triple H actually behaved like the cerebral assassin and put Cody in a position for the fans to rescue the story which we did😂

It’s pretty impressive how Wrestlemania 30 and 40 both don’t turn out the way they do without CM Punk. Wrestlemania 30 CM Punk was supposed to be in that spot but he quit the company after Rumble and that helps Daniel Bryan get the shot. Wrestlemania 40 punk gets hurt at Rumble and that leads to Cody getting the main event.

@seanblake7554

19 күн бұрын

I think with CM punk being in the picture Cody will still get the main event, but drew and priest wouldn't have been pushed like they are now

@kellenoconnor4396

19 күн бұрын

I want to see the version of events where Punk isn’t injured and we get the storyline of “11 years later, and Rock is still screwing Punk out of main eventing Mania.” Honestly I wish there was a little more of a gap between Rock taking Cody’s spot and him taking it back for more of the roster to hype Cody back up. Imagine some big pep talk from Punk, ending in “the fact that Dwayne is in the main event of Wrestlemania and YOU’RE not makes me sick”

@DR.64A9

18 күн бұрын

Punk didn't have anything to do with Cody getting the main event.

He said once TKO took over, the Wrestlemania picture started to look much clearer AKA my boys took over, and now I can book myself into the main event and nobody can do nothing about it.

@AussieDragoon

19 күн бұрын

It's not that he couldn't get into the main event whenever he wanted, It's that clearly "the first chapter" was him beating Roman's streak, which even latter days Vince thought was a bad idea.

When Triple H said Cody asked him what he was going to do at Wrestlemania and he told him he didn't know yet. Not gonna lie. That pissed me off.

@DanzG

19 күн бұрын

Clearly he was also blindsided by rocks return..

@marymay99

19 күн бұрын

@@DanzG Clearly. Especially since he was there the whole time working all year and going through the adversity that some thought he needed.

@chriscollins550

19 күн бұрын

Triple h already in the picture that the rock was coming back. Triple did an interview with Stephanie two weeks after last year's wm, saying about they are putting together the ideas of bringing the rock back for wm 40, then the rock appeared in a interview few months later saying they are just working thing's out for him to return at wm 40,

@BerserkRain

19 күн бұрын

I mean, if you're in that position with multiple higher-ups and the rock, there is a lot of uncertainty. Especially because then you had the whole stuff with Seth, Drew and Punk stuff changing courses.

@marymay99

18 күн бұрын

@@chriscollins550 Basically working things out means he would not do the match until that money was right

Really enjoyed the doc overall, and your analysis of it was great. Happy 4th!

Totally agree with your theory, Roman def pushed for Cody, IMO.

This documentary was absolutely brilliant. I loved every second of it and I hope we get more stuff like this in the future

The Rock in this doc: “I came in and pushed their plans aside but then, I realized only after doing that, the better plan was just to do exactly what the plan was, you’re welcome. I’m a hero.”

@bigyodatheman

11 күн бұрын

I mean, if the Rock was Hogan the "better plan" would have happened. At least he's humble enough to realize he was wrong, unlike a lot of guys as big as he was in the past.

@UncomfortableShoes

11 күн бұрын

@@bigyodatheman yeah, but I feel like for many, him thinking he could come in and just not do what the creative team had been building to is very aggravating.

@bigyodatheman

11 күн бұрын

@@UncomfortableShoes The thing he is literally become bigger than wrestling. He could have easily made Roman Rock the main event, and the crowd would have ate it alive and it still would have been the biggest Mania. He's that big. It would have been aggravating if he DID do that. But he didn't. He was aware enough to know the better story, not the bigger match, was Cody vs Roman, and he deserves credit for that. Regardless of how it started, this past Mania cycle was the best I've ever lived through. Unpredictable, wild, and aahxic feel of realness you can't fake. Everything was better because of what happened. If the Rock never came back and it was just the basic straight up Cody vs. Roman storyline they were doing, not as meaningful, not as good, not as entertaining, with wide open storylines to go forward. It worked out for the best.

@UncomfortableShoes

11 күн бұрын

@@bigyodatheman I’m not discrediting the Rock’s work. It was really good. Again, I give some credit for not steamrolling the Cody vs Roman narrative. But I do criticize him for not coming in, asking what the plan was, listening and then supporting the narrative with the final boss. Instead, he came in, did push everything else aside, and only when it didn’t look good did he change course. Which I’m grateful for, but I just prefer when people come in, understand what’s happening before stepping on what others built. Also, from reports his original plan was to come in, take down Roman at mania and then vacate the title and return it to “the people.” I mean, ugh, that’s awful.

The Rock altered that documentary because we knew he was pulling out the golden shovel. Ever wondered why they delayed this to come out? Rock had to review and approve it before releasing it to the public.

@geekbro6265

13 күн бұрын

exactly, im surprised not many people have brought that up before

@bigyodatheman

11 күн бұрын

Nah, I'm guessing there was a lot of Vince that had to be edited out of it.

@WWE2KUNIVERSEELITE

11 күн бұрын

@@bigyodatheman Vince was already out for the entire 2023-2024 season.

@bigyodatheman

11 күн бұрын

@@WWE2KUNIVERSEELITE He forced himself back in and didn't officially resign until January. There's no way he didn't have influence before then.

Besides this documentary, there was also an interview with Brian Gewirtz where he practically confirmed most of the story on his perspective, which was almost identical to the documentary anyway, I dont think there really is another “real scoop” of what really happened in Wrestlemania XL. Not unless Vince McMahon was actually in charge at least, i think the story has been told, it was a good story. Lets save it as a good memory.

Fun stream tonight Steve!

15:35 i saw that too Steve, and i am a good reader of expressions, Roman didnt look happy everytime hes around The Rock. he just doesn't seem natural around him and a has so much fake smiles during the whole thing. you can tell The Rock also isn't fully interactive with Roman too. they dont see eye to eye 100%.

@pastorcodymitchell1456

18 күн бұрын

Not at all

@geekbro6265

13 күн бұрын

either way roman knew he was going to end up taking a backseat to rock, if he faced the rock the rock wouldve buried him, if he teamed up with the rock he was going to be put in the background (which is what ended up happening)

Yo, when is ask Steve and Lacey coming back?

Loved it, Steve!

that moment of cody with i think it was vodka next to him in the RV after giving his spot at Mania to the Rock like he looked so sad there i was like man i cant imagine going through everything from the 1st WWE run the indies then AEW and now the 2nd WWE run only to have your biggest moment taken away from you and then he basically said i think that he hoped but didnt know if the fans would have is back in this and the fans totally were behind him so that feeling of everyone believing in him must of been amazing. Triple H from seeing this as we know now of course is a man of great patience and he will wait things out and see what happens and I really like that and hes smart enough to know when to push the button sooner if the timing is right like i would imagine working with vince all those years really gave him a perspective unlike any other in which he has come to an understanding of the business that know one else probably has ever had.

I would say that, technically, End of an Era was that kind of Long-term Program that ended up on top, just like this trilogy would do

I hope HHH pulled The Rock aside and said “Remember when Vince did dumb selfish shit? You’re doing that right now.” The rock: Fuck, you’re right.

Do you think, with how the doc ended bringing up the whole post-mania Cody/Rock story starting that part of the reason they delayed it until now is that they're about to pick up the story sooner rather than later? Kind of like what happened with Bo and the bray doc.

Diva Dwayne The Documentary

I'm just happy they dropped the whole "L" thing cause Rock didn't know how to throw his ones up 😂😂😂

I'm sure nobody wanted Cody to win more than Roman. To be THAT guy, breaking THOSE records, for THAT long. Possibly seeing all the opinions on the Bloodline story jumping the shark, or his main event matches dropping in quality. I'm sure that pressure is immeasurable, even with the reduced schedule. Plus, the story prospects of dropping the title far outweighs anything they could've done If Roman had to stretch that reign another year or so. I'm sure everyone but Rock (and Brian Gewertz) understood that. I always had the feeling Roman's reign was never meant to go this long, but Roman being the "locked in" type of individual he is, just did whatever he was told until there was no way to end it without a worthwhile story behind it. Cody was the only shot they had. They kill Cody, have the Rock match, kill more of the rosters babyfaces over another year, and then what? I believe Roman couldn't wait for it to end, but didn't want it to go to waste.

@michaelalognon3027

19 күн бұрын

Completely agree! The only guy he hadn't feuded with on Smackdown was Lashley (and Kross, but let's be real 😅).

@geekbro6265

13 күн бұрын

yeah people seem to forget that the roman vs cody feud was not only planned by hhh, but roman and paul had a lot to do with it, like the rock shows up and tells them nah your plan sucks lets do my idea instead

Happy 4th to you too Steve and Lacey

Casual firecracker story at the end there 😂

my conspiracy theory is that the delay was that they could shoot retroactively parts get your ducks in line company message

Quite the morbid ending for a Video lmfao

Roman doing the spot with Cody at the end of the Rumble makes me think he wanted Cody to be in the main event.

Oh my god can you imagine The Rock in next years Royal Rumble. Gives himself the number 30 spot. Gets thrown out and then tells the refs they’re fired if they count him as out. Gets back in and final bosses his way to “victory”

I thought Roman rolled hs eyes when he looked away from The Rock in the scene u mentioned

It was what i expecting was good but basically what i thought regardless

I think the craziest thing I learned is how much pull the rock has… I’m not looking forward to him beating Cody then holding the belt hostage in Hollywood until mani 42

@SS-tg8lf

15 күн бұрын

What would you do? WWE is moving to Netflix. Netflix wants Big numbers immediately. The only person who can pull big numbers other than Reigns is Rock . Reigns WONT be champion for a long time, so the only person left is Rock . It's a business.

@user-im8ru2bt7u

15 күн бұрын

@@SS-tg8lf Cody as champ going into Netflix era would be just fine. Rock doesn’t have to hold the belt to attract eyes to the product it’s the hottest it’s been in god knows how long they already have the momentum on their side. The last thing they wanna do is kill the good will they’ve built up with their audience

@SS-tg8lf

15 күн бұрын

@@user-im8ru2bt7u 🤣🤣🤣 1. Rhodes CAN'T draw. Every single week the bloodline segments outdraw him as champion. Ratings on Smackdown are the LOWEST they've been in 4 years. 2. Rhodes is not as over as his fans say. Look at the beginning of his match at Mitb. 🤣👍 The WWE champ is in the ring and the crowd at the top of their voices are screaming " We WANT ROMAN" majority of the match. Not just that night every single week. 3. It's just Business Sense. Why not take a wwe legend and one of the biggest names in the world and have him be champion going into the biggest deal in pro wrestling history? 4 .Rock's the whole reason why WWE got the Netflix deal in the first place. The Netflix execs made sure Rock was locked in before they signed the deal.

@user-im8ru2bt7u

15 күн бұрын

@@SS-tg8lf you’re arguments against Rhodes are just bad faith arguments bro I’m sorry but I’m just not gonna take u very serious . I just want my champion on tv week to week. The weekly tv without the world champ on your show is stagnant as we saw with Roman and many before him

@geekbro6265

13 күн бұрын

@@SS-tg8lf unless rock sticks around it doesnt make any sense, its a business like you said, whats the point of pulling big numbers only when rock is there? raw isnt like the other shows where they get a huge audience that binges the week it drops, they need to keep the numbers consistent week to week

I wish they covered more than the main events

@AussieDragoon

19 күн бұрын

Yeah, but I think the main event was the only thing really affected, outside of Drew challenging Seth instead of punk.

@bigyodatheman

11 күн бұрын

I mean, that's what this was going to be about.

I like that these opinions of the rock due to this documentary and comments just make The Final Baws an even better heel.

They 100% delayed it to minimize blowback on Rock and to not portray him in a certain way

Rock 10.0 is the Final Boss, as shown at the WM40 entrance titantron.

Wild Theory! I know its insane. John Cena joins Solo’s Bloodline, In a shocking Hogan NWO fashion. Imagine, Face Roman vs Heel Cena Cody vs Cena, Orton, & KO vs Cena Imagine, Final-Boss Rock vs Heel Cena The possibilities are endless, more than likely we’ll just get the typical “Cena” experience. Most will say “why would he?” I have trust in HHH and Cena to figure out a figurative path. Just a thought I had at 3:30am

I hate that this is all out there less than a year after the fact. Ima old head and really miss the mystery and intrigued wrestling use to have. Now we get this wm doc and Jericho 2 days after a show going on about how he "let someone go over." Please try wrestling, please.😅

I believe Roman did want to put Cody over because he had been there the last few years and he seemed to build and he sees everything and he's a smart guy so I believe he was all on board with Triple H also

@khesipresents1885

19 күн бұрын

We want facts not what you believe

@geekbro6265

13 күн бұрын

@@khesipresents1885 its a fact that any plans that had to do with the bloodline were handled by hhh, paul and roman so its not far off that roman would've been on board with putting cody over

@khesipresents1885

12 күн бұрын

@@geekbro6265 what does "it's not far off mean"? It doesn't mean it's true it means it's probable..which is why I said I want facts not what people make up online ...

When rock pinned Cody night one, I kinda realized what Rock wants. He wants to pin all the top guys at WM. Hogan, Stone cold, Cena, Roman, and Cody. That’s a crazy stat.

@SS-tg8lf

15 күн бұрын

He's NEVER pinned Reigns. 😂 👍 2. Out of all the times Rock and Austin faced each other, Austin NEVER put Rock over until he was about to retire. Rock only beat Austin ONCE out of multiple matches.

I seriously have to ask why they were doing a documentary-style interview with Cody the night he gave up his spot. "Hey, Cody, how's it feel to get screwed over like that?" It almost seems like this was the plan all along and making a doc about it was the plan all along.

I believe almost nothing the Rock says.

As soon as Dewayne put on that old championship and started taking pictures and walking around with it🤦🏽 I was like there’s the REAL rock. Mr self obsessed everything’s GOTTA be about me type of loser, the long delayed documentary was nothing more than a puff joint to rehab Dewayne’s image after he kinda sorta finished an already drowning DCEU. He ran back to a company that he knew he could get the love he was falling to get from Hollywood. We don’t need the rock anymore, we need NEW stars and we need to move the hell on from the past, time for the rock to roll on down the road!

This was a massive Rock Circle Jerk. Like he was blowing himself the entire time.

I'm honestly still convinced it was all a work from the beginning

I agree I think Roman wanted it to be Cody in the main event of night two I mean he had the biggest grin on his face as he was being pinned

The video was postponed because the wyatt six have been using production equipment in the fun house 😂

It was so good…when Dwayne stopped talking about him. Like, Triple H didn’t actually do a HUGE chunk of work, and then Rock showed up? #hottake

@SS-tg8lf

15 күн бұрын

HHH is NOT this creative genius the iwc says he is 😂. You understand that the whole WrestleMania mainevent 40 build up was written by Rock , His writer Brian Gowerts, Heyman and Reigns right? HHH had Nothing to do with that. HHH even admitted in the documentary that after Rhodes won, that he DIDN'T what to do next .

@LevWantsHisOwnName

15 күн бұрын

@@SS-tg8lf Sure.

This whole things just shows how much Triple H and Rock are both geniuses! Both knew very well that it would backfire BUT they had different objectives! Triple H bought himself more time by having Cody win the Rumble and on the other hand Rock knew that even in the worst of cases he’ll still be involved in the main event in some fashion and eventually buy himself even more time to be involved in further storylines with Cody and Roman down the line. He knew that if he forced it too much it would have damaged any further involvements for him. Both played an incredible game of chess!! Bravo! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾🔥🔥🔥✅

Backstage politics are good for wrestling and led us to the “best” Wrestlemania moment

CM Punk has now changed the direction of two Wrestlemania Main Events 10 years apart. In 2014, he walked out of WWE leaving Triple H without an opponent for Mania 30. Daniel Bryan was supposed to face Sheamus while Batista vs Orton would have went on as planned. Punk walked out, Triple H no longer had an opponent and they had no choice but to give in to the fans. Punk walking out led to Daniel Bryan getting his moment at Mania 30. Punk getting injured in the Royal Rumble led to the Tag match between Cody/Seth vs Rock/Roman and Cody Rhodes getting his moment at Mania 40.

I personally think it was delayed because the rock wanted more scenes of himself kissing his own ass and explaining how amazing he is

Cody and Rock both come off as egomaniacs

Rocky really tried to play down the backlash as though it was a small part of the wrestling fans😂 dude don't wanna hold that L

Roman Rigns has been his entire carrer background matterial, even his run in the bloodline, it was those around hi,m running the show. Roman Rigns charector has alaways been a side charector in his own storyline

So if "The Final Boss" is Rock 10.0 what are the previous 9 versions?

@nocturnalag7695

15 күн бұрын

Rocky Maivia You suck rock Corporate rock Peoples champ rock The rock Hollywood rock I'm A big star now everyone loves me rock Vince junior rock Come in and save the day after stuffing up everything to begin with rock Final boss rock

@Tizontheska

15 күн бұрын

@@nocturnalag7695 So the 10 are Rocky Miavia, Nation Rock, People's Champ Rock, Corporate Rock, Hollywood Rock, 2002/Brahma Bull Rock, 2004/almost gone Rock, Twice in a Lifetime Rock, 2010s one-off appearance Rock, then Final Boss Rock?

People really think Cody wasn’t supposed to point at Roman even though production was cued to cut back and forth between him and Roman’s booth lol

I love that the Rock skipped software versions 2.0 - 9.0.

I knee Rock had a big ego, but he has surpassed Hogan at this point. He mentions going out to eat and sitting at the bar, at a booth, or head of the table and thinks the fans wanted that? Literally no build at all towards Rock vs Roman during the Bloodline story but he believes people are dying to see it? No way bro! I believe Triple H had some conversations with Cody about body language during the Birmingham show, pointing to Roman after Royal Rumble. I think they stroked Rock’s ego and got him to play nicely with them. They would’ve lost millions of viewers if they kept Cody out for another year

The Rock!!! That’s why.

And you and Larson gonna talk about this?

Keep all 8 fingers everyone!!! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

At first I wasn’t too bothered about swapping cody for rock other than the way they did it was stupid. I was more invested in the bloodline stuff than Cody. But yea him moping off like a little bitch when I watched it a few times and the narrative of the bigger star pushing him out just started growing.

Dude! The way roman reacted with the rock backstage in the documentary...idk it felt off at a particular moment and I think it may be on purpose and they are just doing some long term story telling and doing things very Suttle. I'm loving this new age wwe!!! And SOOOOO glad vince is gone haha

What I don't understand about this whole situation, is why Cody didn't beat Roman LAST YEAR, if the original plan was for The Rock to fight Roman ? This controversy could've been avoided, if Cody had ALREADY beaten Roman, which allowed Rock to fight him this year by winning the Royal Rumble. They didn't have to turn Rock heel, he would've still been a face.

@reddragon0624

19 күн бұрын

Because Roman & Heyman said: “That doesn’t work for us, brother.”

I could go the rest of my life without seeing the lit up five room Gorilla position ever again. You see it every week on weekly programming and you see it in these behind the scenes pieces too. It's too much. It's cool to know the ins and outs of the product but mystery is very cool. Genuine mystery. There's no mystery or anything behind what they're doing. Kinda sucks for young fans like my son who still thinks it's real. It's like Santa Claus, I can't show him all his heroes hugging and dappin' it up backstage. It would ruin him. And confuse him. Where's the pieces for fans like that? Ya got so many behind the scenes and backstage stuff, what about like, protecting what you're doing?

I thought it was awesome

I got all the respect in the world for The Rock as a wrestler as well as a business man. But this whole documentary to me was image rehab after he tried to pull that switch up crap on Cody and us the fans after 2yrs of build-up. Overall, it was a solid doc, the 2 things that rubbed me the wrong way were Rock's insinuation that the people upset with Cody being replaced were a "small amount" of the fans. Make no mistake, people were on pace to booing them outta the stadium like it was Mania 34. And the second thing was how he placed sole reason for the switch onto himself so he could be the hero of the story. GTFOH

@WrestleJuice

19 күн бұрын

@@WhelmedButReady I feel like they retconned out the Cody Crybaby reference as a direct shot at the ones that attacked Ava online. Cuz that what it was. The doc changed it up to make that more of a Heel Rock thing. I am legit curious how the change was made, but I still think if Rock wanted it, the Rock woulda got it. If Ari Emanuel sided with HHH, that’s a bit surprising.

Dwayne got a script to RetCon his massive ego …

I’d do Roman vs rock at mania 41, then Cody vs rock at summerslam. At least Cody vs rock 1

Cody had to sell it like he did. It would have made no sense for his character to act in any other way. And he would have killed his character if he would have anyway. The way the story ended up was realistically the only way you could use the Rock in the storyline and make it work for everyone. Trips just seems a bit more politically astute than I think a lot of people give him credit for. You had HHH, The Rock, Paul Heyman, Cody, Roman and Brian G all working together over two months to figure the situation out. How many years of experience is that? With no Vince McMahon. The story essentially wrote itself. Even Punk has talked about how The Rock and Brian G are. He said they came in with scripts and a story… and Punk was basically like “I don’t work like that” and he said they worked with him and they still seem to have a positive working relationship to this day. Workers work and the real top guys know where to find the money. They even got two more Mania Main Events out of this.

This is a egotistical business by nature, so its fascinating to see how this all came together though all of this.

I think they could have done The Rock vs Roman at WM40, all they really needed to do was have somebody else win The Royal Rumble. That Cody's story was he came back to the WWE for unfinished business, to win that title for his dad, he was robbed at WM39 and now he has his big chance at redemption and revenge - he won The Rumble and has another shot at Roman Reigns. That he was just giving it up for no reason made no sense and was very insulting to the fans. And Cody didn't need to win The Rumble and fans would have been OK with him not winning if it led to something: like if the final three were Drew, Cody and Gunther and Cody eliminated Gunther, goes on to have a good back and forth with Drew but then Gunther comes back out and yoinks Cody over the top rope they could have done a Gunther/Cody feud and it would look like Gunther cost Cody his chance at finishing his story rather than a stupid booking decision.

It honestly just to me felt like classic WWE revisionist history. Trying to PR spin what happened. I mean look at what we heard about the Rock behind the scenes stuff with the Fast and Furious movies, Black Adam, and that movie he did post Mania. That behavior syncs up with what the dirt sheets were reporting at the time.

@TheTennesseeFistMachine

19 күн бұрын

More like "Rock's PR team got a hold of it and cut it up like they wanted it"

@PowerPackers90

19 күн бұрын

@@TheTennesseeFistMachine there's also some Triple H PR spinning in this too. everything about the Rumble talk feels like to me it's Trips going "hey i'm the good guy".

@chriscollins550

19 күн бұрын

You believe all that stuff. But you Don't believe triple h, go look for the interview with triple h just before wm were he talks about it all and how it all when down. Even saying it was the rock idea to change everything and him turn heel because of the fan's reaction, the rock took the lead and gave us one of the best wm in year's.

@PowerPackers90

19 күн бұрын

@chriscollins550 The Rock literally just feels like he was gaslighting in the doc. like only showing streamers that were popping for the Rock during that SD segment. or claiming it was a small number of Cody fans upset and he's felt bad upsetting them.

We will hear what really happened in about 10 years when someone from the Wwe team makes their own podcast lol

I do not believe for a second that The Rock pitched the idea to turn heel and go back to Roman vs Cody at mania.

@ikgixofficial1985

19 күн бұрын

Rock is smart bro! He bought himself more time to me EVEN MORE involved later down the line. Both him and Hunter are waaay too intelligent and experienced not to see the end game of these things

@WrestleJuice

18 күн бұрын

I sincerely doubt it happened the way he said it. I also doubt he didn’t have the power to make the match Roman vs Rock if he really wanted it.

@pastorcodymitchell1456

18 күн бұрын

Absolutely not

@SS-tg8lf

15 күн бұрын

​@@WrestleJuice Which makes Rock look even better. 👍 Rock has way more power than HHH or Nick Khan. He's basically in Vince's seat . The fact that 2 of his employees went against the plan they all agreed to a year out , and Rock DIDN'T stick to what he wanted,makes him look better.

@user-sn4gf2cc9w

13 күн бұрын

@@SS-tg8lfI wanna know who would be champion right. Now if it was rock vs Roman

Rock lebron meme

Roman returns and wins the next Royal Rumble but the Rock come back and tries to fuck it up again by challenging Cody to a match at WM and then we finally all together in one loud voice tell the Rock to Fckoff and retire

HHH's attention to detail is fantastic to see

The Cody cry babies got what they wanted hes the champion now I just want Rock vs Roman now im done with that Corny Rhodes story

Rock failed to takeover Fast n Furious, DC and now WWE, his ego is insane

1hr of doc to say nothin. Its alright as a summary of the road to mania but very few moments we havent seen

Austin brought the casual fan in in 98 and the ensemble cast kept them. But yes Austin was who brought them in. Hogan did same thing in 80s but didn't have the ensemble cast to keep them. This time around the Cast is there to keep then and they're banking on Cody bringing in the outside fans

Crazy to think Nick Khan and TKO were thinking so shortsighted regarding Wrestlemania. However, to their credit, pivoting has given them at least the next 2 Mania main events (Rock vs Cody 41/Rock vs Roman 42)

First

Rock ego is insane

Rock went from his worst version to his best version in the span of a week. That's nuts.

Either way we ended up getting the best outcome possible and they listened to the fans (which almost never happened under Vince). Watching the Cody win it again gave me a tear in my eye just awesome stuff.

Man the rocks ego was all over this doc 😂 he talking bout he changed it cause the people weren’t happy naw you couldn’t handle being booed as a babyface

Triple H was 100% pushing for Cody, his interactions with Rock seemed so fake, he was just blowing smoke up Rock's ego