lets be honest, if a healer has to use a lb3 you cant be too distracted since you're probably dead

@JustRuss

10 ай бұрын

LOL

@kuri_curry

9 ай бұрын

As a healer main, 10/10 true. The pressure not to make a mistake/die is more on you with people screaming in chat LB33333333333

@EvraeFrelia

9 ай бұрын

@@kuri_curryyeah… gotta love the ultimate OH SHIT!!!!!! button 😂 though at least it’s easier to use on a Barrier Healer imo. Since you’re a sitting duck due to animation lock.

@kuri_curry

9 ай бұрын

​@@EvraeFrelia Accurate. 🤣 OH SHIT!!!!! should be the actual LB3 skill name for healers.

@wyettmunro470

5 ай бұрын

If a healer needs the limit break you guys royalty fucked up somewhere i bet in that scenario a dragoon back flipped off the map

If you don't kill at least half your party using red mage LB3 then you're doing something wrong, it's like a point system of how many people you can get killed with it

@edboy5418

10 ай бұрын

Seeing 3 RDM in different parties in an Alliance Raid at the start always gives me a mini heart attack and dread. Im just hoping none of them are planning to coordinate their LB3 one after another, thats more devestating than 3 RDM using LB3 simultaneously imo.

@fairexd

10 ай бұрын

Why? I think I miss something

@JustRuss

10 ай бұрын

LOL@@fairexd

10 ай бұрын

half? full wipe from tsukuyomi normal HAHAHAHA

@dalgona4819

10 ай бұрын

lmao I've seen this in a Dun Scaith raid@@edboy5418

What makes LB3 most memorable is how they get used during raids. - Tank LB3 is one of the rarest used, but there are raids that specifically require it so it is the most thematic to use and makes you feel maximum like a tank in that moment. I have seen a quick thinking tank save a clear before by using LB3 to protect the party from damage caused by a missed body-check etc. - Healer is used more often, and everyone is rooting for you when you use it so you feel like a hero. - DPS is used most often, and feels best when you time it as a finishing blow on the enemy. In the 24-man alliance raids, you will sometimes see each party reach their LB3 at the same time and having multiple animations go off at once is a spectacular finale.

@knightsolaire5351

10 ай бұрын

Note on this: it should NOT be the killing blow as you’re potentially wasting HUNDREDS of thousands in damage, close to the killing blow maybe but it’s a waste of damage to overkill with lb3

@holo_val

10 ай бұрын

@@knightsolaire5351 yeah in ex/sav/ulti, always use before kill. I just mean in general duties and such, timing it for the killing blow feels so good haha.

@theexiledones1

9 ай бұрын

TOP is probably the place where all the LBs feel so satisfying to use.

Just noticed that for RPR's lb, you and your voidsent do the first strike on your own, fuse during the 2nd for the last hit. Also waving thanks to Seraph during sch lb is adorable.

I learned the hard way that Dragoon's LB3 is a jump during E10S where the fraction of a second I was out of my shadow puddle was enough to wipe the raid.

@viniciusvictor9989

10 ай бұрын

That sucks

@JustRuss

10 ай бұрын

oh it actually moves your character? i thought it would just be an animation :(

@JPXtorsion

9 ай бұрын

Monks have the same issue, saw a lot of ppl die using them on p12sp1 lol

@scorpiowarrior7841

9 ай бұрын

@@JustRuss Most things that aren't DRG's jump ability that look like they're moving your character (and even then I think jump still counts), do actually move your character.

A note about why the paladin lb3 is so unimpressive: in ye olden times, when warrior and paladin were the only two tanks, they both used the current paladin lb3. It was just the "tank lb3." As the team had more resources to work with, they expanded into having individual lb3s for each job, but rather than giving paladin their own cool lb3, they just gave warrior a new one and made the original one paladin only. This is also why all the original jobs have simpler, slightly dated looking animations.

Dancer's theme makes sense for lb3 and I love seeing it every time. The beginning is the appearance and beauty of a flower and the ending of it is like the thorns of a rose.

@JustRuss

10 ай бұрын

Yes! This exactly! It’s why I loved it so much

for the tanks and the healers the LB3s have an extra affect around all allies. i main scholar and that extra affect is one of my favourite things!

@JustRuss

10 ай бұрын

oh! i'd love to see that :D

@justalfric8719

10 ай бұрын

@@JustRuss i think the official LB3 video the ffxiv youtube put out showed it better. it’s missing Sage and Reaper though. just if you were curious about it in your free time!!

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I never realized Reaper is a team attack with the avatar until the last hit where u prime! :O

aside from RDM, none of the lb3s are really that distracting in raid. DRK is definitely my favourite though. Don't know if it's a bit early for you to be watching it, but you should definitely react to the Kindred Ultima weapon Ultimate speedrun at some point - they do some insane shit (like taking their gear off and putting it back on immediately before the fight starts, so that they start on like 50% hp to generate LB gauge, and purposely getting hit by things you would usually dodge for the same reason) it's nuts

@fluffykitten077

10 ай бұрын

AST can wipe a raid if you need to look outside the arena

Tank LB3 is only required in 2 fights in the whole game. They do block a lot of vision, but for those requires instances, the raid can't attack the boss anyways, so it's a non-issue. Also Red Mage main here - nothing makes me happier than using my LB3 Ver-flashbang lmao.

@awsomer76

10 ай бұрын

*2 normal MSQ fights, Savage and up it becomes a lot more frequent, for instance almost all of the ultimates require it

@CyanPhoenix_

10 ай бұрын

@@awsomer76 Can't think of any savage fights that use it but I might just be forgetting, but yeah every ultimate has at least one tank LB3

@jasonsamuellgla8033

10 ай бұрын

A12s and O11s are the only fights where Tank LB3 is required. E and P don't need TLB 3 aside from player made strats, if I remember right. UCoB is the only ultimate fight where you can skip Tank LB with some heavy mitigation thanks to stronger bufffood and stronger downsynch

@ninponighthawk

10 ай бұрын

We use it in p2s for MIT during the complex fume. Think fume 3? Where it's kickback switch stack with tank in front. We always had a death somewhere so tank lb just meant we all lived instead of all dying.

@joelharrison4654

9 ай бұрын

3rd coherence in p2s chex 2 in p6s and HH in p10s so far in Panda alone lol

I specifically never use LB3 as Red Mage bc the red aftereffects cover the players screen and not just from the explosion. Blm and Smn make an explosion on a certain place but you can still see aoes around you, but Rdm just blankets the entire screen and its soooo easy to kill your entire raid.

The melee LBs ends up being the less obstructive. Even the ones that are more flashy mostly occupy a small space next to or inside of the boss/target. It's actually a little crazy how much some of the caster/healer LBs obstruct telegraphs or other visual tells. Edit: the tanks LBs can be as flashy as they want because you aren't taking damage for a while. If you're going to take off points for being distracting, Red Mage and Sage are probably the worst offenders, with Black Mage and Astrologian somewhere behind.

The minute I saw Summoner doing Mega Flare I knew what caster was going to be my main, and I haven’t looked back sense.

@JustRuss

10 ай бұрын

BASED

In terms of when lbs are used: Tanks: used to block certain ultimate attacks that will 100% kill you otherwise, only 2 examples of this appear in normal content, the other use of it is to survive an attack that you know you are going to fail and cause a wipe on, both of these scenarios are near nonexistent in normal so tank lb usage is mostly restricted to savages/extremes where it has its uses decently often. Healers: full party rez, so by far the most common even in normal content if people are dying a lot it can help, it’s usefulness continues into hard content as it is basically a 1 time get out of party wipe free mech so it is by far the most used. Ranged and casters: used on adds or dual bosses, most of which are quite rare in ff14 except in dungeons but you can’t get lb3 there anyway, phys range is intended for dual bosses/adds or adds that are grouped up, and magic ranged for spread out or static adds, but the most common use for them is when the melee forget they can lb. Finally, melee: Melee lbs are used whenever anything else is not needed for the damage boost, there are scenarios where melee lb can be a long term damage loss if you use it mid 2 minute window, but by and large all it harms is your parse, so it should be used when you have a chance, and you don’t think it will be needed for heal or tank lb anytime soon. The flashiness of lbs seems to be somewhat based on how often they get used, particularly tank lbs, as whenever they are used you generally don’t have any mechs to focus on and if you do, tank lb will take care of that so you can look at the flashy animation. Healer lbs are the exception to this rule, but if you are using a heal lb everyone is probably dead, so they don’t have to look at mechs anyway.

Just want to put it out there, I've been playing ffxiv for a year and a half and I love your content! Its interesting to see the different perspective on things even though I was playing WoW myself for almost 10 years, I love the community in ffxiv so much more and I'm glad to see you are enjoying many different aspects of it.

You loved red mages, but that is the most distracting to see in a 24 person raid encounter

@JustRuss

10 ай бұрын

Yep! complete flashbang haha

@tsuribachi

10 ай бұрын

@@JustRuss VerFlashbang

Bringing a meteor down on mofos with black mage LB3 is such a dopamine rush

As a dragoon main, I expected more from the dragon. Like, maybe a long/traditional east Asian dragon, instead of....giant disembodied Midgardsormr head? Similar to the animation in the Mirage Dive weaponskill, but slower to highlight the dragon's shape. Or even a bigger emphasis on the spear, like a giant fucking spear cutting right across the field. It probably takes a shit tonne to animate but I WANT dragoon to look fucking badass

I don't know if anyone told you yet, but job exclusive LBS 3 weren't added into to the game until Stormblood. Prior to Stormblood every Melee class used Final Heaven (Monk), every tank used Last Bastion (PLD), every Healer and Ranged Physical used Breath of Life (WHM), and every caster used Meteor (BLM).

@JustRuss

10 ай бұрын

oh that's interesting. didn't know actually!

I swear the Limit Breaks just get prettier and more awesome with every expansion.

@JustRuss

10 ай бұрын

i thought this too!

My favorites are definitely RPR & DNC, but I play those jobs a lot. I do main WAR, but I almost never use LB as a tank anyway so it is nice to see them shown. Loved your reactions to them all and to be fair everyone has a different preference and I think your tier list is pretty fair. But can't please everyone as we all have different likes and dislikes. 😄

@JustRuss

10 ай бұрын

haha yeah i think upon rewatching it myself when editing, i think i agree with my tier list. it's all just a bit of fun in the end anyway!

I'm a little annoyed at that specific video's angles. They did a high angle to show off the raid-wide effect, close back shot for the particles, and a close front shot for the animation. But unfortunately, they don't show the one angle that actually matters: Your gameplay camera! It should be behind the character at a high angle, as that is the POV they would have initially designed the effects around. It's really evident in the Dark Knight one as you can't see the reality tear, and also in the Gunbreaker as the close angle removes half the particle effects that would otherwise be there. For me, Dark Knight's is unparalleled. The initial windup where he tears the hole in space, the dripping effect of the dark energy, spilling and spreading across the entire boss arena. That short channel before he hits the ground, summoning a spell circle to enact the magicks of the Limit Break. That creates the sphere of spell circles around the entire encounter, consuming the dark energy and creating that shield around himself (actually, it plays on your entire party, and it looks incredible) that mirrors the orb formation of his Shadow Wall and Blackest Knight abilities. Yes, some of the DPS are a little more flashy with their damage, but no other job exudes the class and style while practically telling a story with their LB3 animation.

tbh Sage's (the tree of life) is... a bit nuanced, because on the arena you only see a giant yellow tube, but from a far (I saw it during alliance raid fight when different alliances were on different arenas) you can actually see it in full might, it IS a giant tree. Which is a bit sad because it looks gorgeous in its full might. Also about visuals, it is not THAT distracting, usually on savage level it is used when its mostly convenient or as a desperate move (party dead or enrage) so its not that bad with distraction... unless it is rdms' VerFlashBang...

i'll be honest here, i wish they'd make an updated version of Break The Limit video with Sage and Reaper. The cinematic camera angles on that limit break video is just top notch.

@JustRuss

10 ай бұрын

Do you mean the square enix official one?

@darkmirror21

10 ай бұрын

@@JustRuss yessss. it makes limit break look so much cooler. and you can see how healer actually works. still sad it's pre-endwalker so no reaper or sage

Remember the days when range physical dps(bard) have an healers lb)) so happy they reddo it in heavenward

"It's only once per instance", they said. Meanwhile TOP

Edgy is just a word people overuse these day when they cant admit that something looks cool. Like Dark Knight.

As far as I know, the couple of times I've seen a tank lb3 in person, the raid is stacked up and we couldn't target the boss anyway. Those were scripted though, you had to use tank lb3 to survive the mechanic and everyone was still stacking up their defensives with healer cooldowns.

There's something so satisfying about the sound of Reaper LB3. Edit: Same with Monks' Final Heaven LB3!

I've never had an LB3 do much to distract me because they happen so rarely and they're usually in moments where you have a semblance of downtime xD

bard and machniest are my favorite ,they are so smooth, so cool, ofcourse all of them are hecking sick looking!!

@JustRuss

10 ай бұрын

i like the bzzzz on machinist! makes my monkey brain tingle

all i see is perfect channel to watch before the xbox beta how the stars align

@JustRuss

10 ай бұрын

oh you 😳

To be fair with PLD/tank LB3 in general, if a tank is LB3ing it's for one of 2 reasons: A. Cheese strats B. A mechanic literally requires it and you will not get by with any amount of mitigation (Honestly more likely, tank Lbs are VERY RARE in this game) In all cases, your rotation isn't really likely to be affected because you're just standing there, espically since B is usually more common in my experience and in the case of B you usually aren't DPSing the boss. (only cheese tank LB3 strat I actually remeber was E6S where you cheese the tornado phase by just ignoring it.). So visibility really isn't an issue. Red mage Lb3 on the other hand.....LMAO

Ninja lb3 reminds me of ff15 ending battle with the royal arms

If you see Healer LB 3 unless it was UWU normally it means the party is almost screwed.

Theres a official square enix limit break demo video but it does include some spoilers as far as fight visuals unfortunately

Ahem, it's Astro-lo-gian. ...yeah, it takes some time to get used to, but that is how the word used to be pronounced, so at least they didn't pull it out of nowhere.

Gunbreaker definitely gets more points if you scream over Voice Chat "GUNMETAL SOUL!!!"

@JustRuss

10 ай бұрын

I can see that definitely adding to the immersion

I want to murder the world whenever a RDM does LB3, the flashbang has wiped so many groups lol

When it comes to sight blockers, afaik only RDM LB3 pulls that off XD I got more sight blocked by SMN pets than any other lb tbh

Dancer Supremacy!!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉

this video has made me realized i’ve never seen the dancer lb3 and i’ve been playing since 3.0 😂😂😂

@JustRuss

10 ай бұрын

LOL

The angle sadly doesn't capture every lb correctly, like the brd lb that literally opens the skies above (which you can't see properly here) or the sage lb that is enormous.

You should check the pvp limit breaks next

* senses different opinion * DESTROY Astro animations are honestly dope overall. I mainly play healer, and have been overall disappointed with scholar animations so far, but they'll get a rework/love eventually...

Tank LB = Using it because its easier to eat the mechanic sometimes or You did the mechanic and now the boss is charging up the 'wipe everyone' beam that normal cooldowns cannot mitigate. Healer LB = All my Friends are dead/Who said you could die early/I heard no bell. Most likely if you see this its to prog that last 10%, the last ditch chance to burn 5% down, or you know you're gonna hit enrage might as well go out like bosses. Caster LB= The adds need to die and so does the boss. Range LB = everyone line up and die Melee LB = End the fight like a boss. Oddly enough its actually a DPS loss to use Melee LB as you're losing close to 3 GCDs in your rotation to execute due to cast + lock animation. The Damage LB does is not enough sometimes to compensate for that loss in rotation. Tank LB honestly is more versatile at least LB 2 due to the damage reduction and duration...but man 50% damage reduction is nice...just wish it lasted at least 2 more seconds. Also fun fact. Until Stormblood where they finally added distinct Limit breaks for each class... The Tanks shared the same LB 3 as Paladin (Paladin's LB 3 is called Last Bastion). Healers and Range had access to the White Mage LB 3 (Pulse of Life), Casters used Black Mage's LB 3 (Meteor) and all Melee used the monk's LB3 (its a FFVII reference to Tifa's Attack, Final Haven).

If you distributed the tier by visibility too, then the RDM should have been the latest in the "trash". Because most of the deaths during LB occur if RDM presses it.

My favorite is AST. Sadly, it only gets used when stuff goes wrong.

Ah yes. I love raving in the critically acclaimed mmorpg final fantasy 14. I rave all the time.

@JustRuss

10 ай бұрын

The real endgame

impeccable taste 👏

@JustRuss

10 ай бұрын

you know it!

shoutout to Gwydion for the based comment. Not sure how you say that about PLD when RDM BLOCKS VISION lmao. its okay, you're just a sprout. Enjoy the fun activities/world of FF its amazing

It isnt hitting your abilities thats the problem with a well timed lb. Its the blocking out ground markers and boss animations. Its why verBLIND is a thing lol. And as to the lb3s among the tanks/healers, I've definitely seen more tank lbs than healer ones. Mostly because yes, as you would guess, there are fights where its mandatory. That said, it is also why unless you're 100% certain you won't regret it, you dont cast lb the moment it's ready, but instead, wait to make sure the healers won't need it.

You are so focused on your job in the fight that you really don't even notice them to be honest. All the raids I have been in It's pretty much saved for healers and Melee DPS to do their LB3. Maybe ranged DPS if all the melee are dead.

@JustRuss

9 ай бұрын

Gotcha!

this is ok. i can respect this

@JustRuss

10 ай бұрын

BASED

AST ftw

It's too bad none of the ranged dps ever get to use their LB3 during raids with 1 boss, most of them look cool as hell (cries in Dancer main)

Tanks and healers being flashy isn't too much of a problem, since 99% of the time when a tank uses a LB3 it's in a phase transition with basically just an non target-able boss charging their big bad attack, and for healers most of the raid group will be already dead and therefore the number of potentially impacted player will be low, probably 0 to 3. The most problematic are definitely the caster LB3, especially RDM is basically a flashbang for the group. Done at the wrong time, it can kill many allies that won't be able to see the mechanics in time. Also, in general it seems like most recent job's LB3 are more flashy than original ones; so since we're getting a new caster next expac, we may be getting something that's just as bad as RDM lol.

if a healer uses it it has to be a sch because its least distracting ... lol if a healers using it your probably dead so by the time your back up you wont see it

LATE! but the issue with some of the old jobs and their lb3's is that they're just... old. Hope they update them someday.

I'm such an edgy piece of shit and I love my boys Dark Knight and Reaper so much... I can only hope we get edgy classes for other roles as we go on lol

You havent seen an lb3 in the open world its not possible then

Instead of ripping off Tifas Final Heaven from FF7 I think monks would have been cooler if they dashed up and one inch punched you THEN explosion

You forgot the blue mage.

@JustRuss

10 ай бұрын

True! Sadly it wasn’t in the video tho :(

@kumoko3728

10 ай бұрын

@@JustRuss This is because we blue mages don't have on :(

Sadly you will never see Range get to use their LB3 (Im a DNC main) They do almost no damage. 90% of the time you will see Ninja or Sams as melee does the top damage, or a healers to recover. Range users will literally get yelled at and booted from group for wasting the LB3 lol.

@joelharrison4654

9 ай бұрын

Typically you'd want the lowest dps'ng Melee to lb cause it's based on the average of all main hand weapons ilvl's and doesn't scale on individual dps

paladin main. our lb is trash.

Imagine thinking a limit break will obstruct your ability to press buttons, especially tanks when they use it during mandatory LB3 or die stages where you can't even attack the boss to begin with. What DPS are you going to lose when the boss is untargetable?

@JustRuss

10 ай бұрын

dont know. as i said, i've not been in raids and i'm a new player going only off visuals right now

you can tell that hes not played much cause he thinks theres any reason to be able to see if theres a tank or healer lb3 going out. he'll learn though ^_^

@JustRuss

10 ай бұрын

Hahaha

You will see but pld one has a big importance later on, for reasons that are spoilers. Also all tank LB will impede vision, you only use them in certain moments in certain duty. you owe pld an official apology in the future and you will know when! PLD it's the LB down the line because it's featured in the future by official CBU3. And that is rare. There is a reason why its biig and flashy and you cant see anything behind it...it's a sign of you idiot...go behind it, because like any LB it has an AOE. if you dont see anything you in the clear...if you see something...well you maybe just made a TPK depending on the content...Just as a simple explenation of why you are not suposed to see anything with it...its literally a big freaking huge wall between you and the boss AOE that will instant kill you!

@JustRuss

10 ай бұрын

im willing to eat my words!

@TehMuuli

10 ай бұрын

Tank LBs all have a circular aoe, the wall is just a visual effect. The Limit Break tooltip states a 50y radius which is larger than the vast majority of boss arenas in the game.

Russ just play the game mate, you will see all this at some point & those legit reactions will be worth a KZread vid not this react nonsense.

@JustRuss

10 ай бұрын

why not play and also look to be amazed and intersted by it at the same time?

@SDunne

10 ай бұрын

@@JustRuss I'd say because when you have prewatched too much you'll be more likely to just watch all the spoilers, which will ultimately affect how you would naturally "React" to when something cool happens. Which may hurt your viewership in the long run. You've a great journey ahead of you bud don't spoil it....

@JustRuss

10 ай бұрын

i'm taking care to avoid spoilers. and it's not all about viewership. i just do what i find fun. i appreciate the concern regardless - but i will upload my legit reactions in the form of my MSQ series too! :D @@SDunne

@SDunne

10 ай бұрын

@@JustRuss I'm glad to hear it's not all about viewership, Just have fun with the game & enjoy the experience. :)

WHM is aerith LB animation from origin FF7, incase you don't know