Thanks for the review of each system.

Miss flying the Old birds

@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons

5 ай бұрын

I like old bird racing the best.

It was good to hear details and differences among the systems. Thanks, Frank.

@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons

5 ай бұрын

You are very welcome

Great advice frank ,

Awesome tips for me thanks Frank .

@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons

5 ай бұрын

Happy to help!

Thank you very much, I really like your way of simplifying things with all frankness and clarity i advise everyone to try to understand your method and follow it you are a professional and honest man

@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons

5 ай бұрын

You're very welcome! If I can help a little it make me happy. I have been at this game for 50 years and gained much experience along the way. I have been able to fly at the top since I was 18 years old so it has been a 44 year run.

Thanks for everything. I learned a lot whit your videos

@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons

5 ай бұрын

Glad to hear it!

Hi Frank,your videos are priceless,I have learned so much from them, thanks for what you do for the sport.I'm a rhode island pigeon club member

@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons

3 ай бұрын

You are very welcome and I am happy to help a little!

I have learnt a lot watching your videos different class

@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons

5 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoy. I am having fun

Excellent video, I've been waiting for a concise video that simply breaks down each system one after the other. Thank you. I have been flying natural but, I'll be the 1st to admit I don't put a ton of effort into old birds as of yet (waiting for retirement for that).

@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons

5 ай бұрын

When you retire you can fly some celibate pigeons and make the game easy and increase the results.

@jasonjordan9101

5 ай бұрын

@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons I'll probably do it next year when I fly old birds again, as easy as you made it sound.

Great thanks

@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons

5 ай бұрын

You are welcome

Frank thank you so much for all your information it's so helpful to a relatively new starter like myself. On previous video you said roughly a bean tin full of barley per day for 10 birds on your system. How much more do you think you would need to feed if these birds were on open hole.? Thank you

@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons

4 ай бұрын

For open hole feed once a day until they start to leave a little tiny amount of barley.

Good stuff! When I started, I pretty much decided I'd race to the perch because all the talk on motivation, etc. seemed to be all over the place. I don't have my sexes split at the moment, but it's mostly because of numbers. I may divide the loft before going into racing season and split them.

@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons

5 ай бұрын

Split them and race them separated. So easy and they will fly great.

@kerbyjackson88

5 ай бұрын

@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons That's my plan.

Your videos are so informative. I’m gonna try to apply your system to my racing team. I need a mentor like you ☺️

@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons

4 ай бұрын

I am happy you enjoy. I am having fun.

@jcoolpigeons

4 ай бұрын

I wonder if your feeding system will work in a very humid climate, I race pigeons in the Philippines. I feel like they work harder flying in this kind of climate, hot and humid. Do you think 70-80% barley mix during training and racing is still enough to get them in a competitive level?

@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons

4 ай бұрын

My system will be super for the Philippines. You need to have the body weight perfect for flying in heat and humidity. I race the last month of my old bird race season in heat and humidity and the pigeons excel. @@jcoolpigeons

@jcoolpigeons

4 ай бұрын

@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons Excellent! Can’t wait to try it out next season. I just need to find some quality barley seeds over here. Will paddy rice be ok too as substitute if barley is not available?

@BestPigeons

4 ай бұрын

Paddy Rice is a fine substitute for barley.@@jcoolpigeons

Hey Frank! Thanks a lot for your videos. We started 2 years ago to race pigeons, this year will be my first OB season. I don’t have the choice to use the Natural System for my 2024 season, but i really loved the idea of playing celibate hens. Aniway, i was wondering for the future: my breeding section and my OB racing section can see each other. Is it problematic if my celibate hens are constantly seeing and hearing the breeders or there is no problem at all? Thanks again for all what you give to help the pigeon community, it’s really helpful.

@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons

3 ай бұрын

See my last reply but you need to put a cloth or something that air will move through but the pigeons cannot see through. There is a wind break cloth that you can use. Send me photos to look at and I can make suggestions. The celibate hens cannot see other pigeons.

@samuelcadieux740

3 ай бұрын

@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons yes sorry, i did ask the same question on two videos, but as this video was older, the one of this morning remembered me about this 😂 Sorry and thanks again

@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons

3 ай бұрын

No worries. I wanted people in both videos to see an answer. You will do great.

I was thinking about using The Flag Flying System, by the way You really got some Nice Feng Shui going on in that Room there.

@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons

5 ай бұрын

You can flag fly the birds for exercise. Feed correctly and beat the competition. Only flag fly once day maybe Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday for an hour and feed them right.

@curttempleton591

4 ай бұрын

There was book about the flag system and using traditional American stains ! I visited the author who was racing Leen Boors , on Widowhood ! He was crushing his club!

@GuardianAngel..

4 ай бұрын

@@curttempleton591 Hmm 🤔 Interesting I Know the book that Your talking about it’s not easy to find these days but if what Your saying is true I definitely need to get My hands on a copy.

@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons

4 ай бұрын

@@curttempleton591 I am sure that flag flying the pigeons can give exercise. If someone cannot train and has time to flag the birds they can certainly get some work in. No matter what feeding is so important.

Hi Frank, thanks for your time and great content you put on these videos. I’ve learned a lot. Do you think it’s ok to send birds from 250 to 420 miles on OB season. I had to skip 300 and 350 for different reasons. These birds didn’t race young birds. Pls advise me on this matter. This is only my second year racing old birds. Thank you

@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons

4 ай бұрын

Hello, They can go from 250 to 420 without any problem at all. Do not worry as long as the look good and the body weight is correct. I go from 317 to 508 all the time with my pigeons.

@palomero0885

4 ай бұрын

@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons thank you!!

Thanks. So you say not to race with the kocs at all?

@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons

5 ай бұрын

I race both celibate cocks and celibate hens. I may clock seven hens and two cocks on the average. If I could only race one it would be celibate hens.

Hey Frank I have a problem. Most if my young birds from last year didn't molt their last 2 flights. I can't work out why? Any suggestions? Thanks Andy

@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons

5 ай бұрын

Hi Andy, This happens and they could be just young or they were worked hard during the season which slows the molt. If you see this next year you can cut tips of the flights and wait two weeks. You can pull the flights and let them grow in long before the old bird race season begins.

Totally off point. Love watching your videos. Just had a sparrow hawk I’m hit my garden injure 2 yb and scare away 5 others disaster only have them out 10 days. Afraid he will come back. What can I do to keep the predator away!!!

@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons

5 ай бұрын

I use an Air Dancer. I get the babies used to it and then push this up against the loft and the pigeons are comfortable but the hawks hate it. I use a 20 foot but if you live in a neighborhood a 10' may work well. airdancers.com/

Thanks Frank, what feedings would you recommend for hens with the last 120 miles across the sea. Cheers Robert

@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons

5 ай бұрын

120 miles even across the see is not a long flight. You must have them light and buoyant and they should eat a barley mix or depurative mix six days a week and let them eat rich grains on return from the race for the one day.

@robertlevingston99

5 ай бұрын

Thanks Frank, it's a 550 mile race with the last 120 miles across the sea .

@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons

4 ай бұрын

That is a tough flight. If they are in the basket for several days I would load them with all the fat seeds they can eat for two days before shipping.

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here in China ,we can only race yearlings, any system could suggest

@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons

4 ай бұрын

If possible race the celibate hen system. It is the best. You can also race the cocks but they must go out to fly and race more like traditional widowhood.

if what you are saying is true would it be correct to say that you would be as competitive in Belgium or Holland? Jellema won Barcelona using the natural method which to you is the worst. The recent list of national winners are not celibate hens

@haroldlebreton

5 ай бұрын

I was wondering if the last two system is only good for up to middle distance and not as good in the tough longer distance ? Most times in the tough long distance it’s a natural system bird that gets home first but then there are loft who said they clock widowhood cocks.

@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons

5 ай бұрын

You must keep in mind that nearly 100% of the European ship hens to the Barcelona mated and most on a small baby. If they are all mated on a small baby the odds are a mated hen on a baby will be the best. This is what they have always done. If they flew the same hens celibate they would have great results. Many Europeans just started racing hens. Most only flew cocks for decades. The hens fanciers were always superstars like Gaston De Wouwer, Remi De Mey, Flor Vervoort etc. These guys dominated. I thought they were some kind of pigeon master but they were racing hens. Sometimes doing what your grand father did is not the best.

@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons

5 ай бұрын

Many widowhood cocks win long distance and the celibate hens would do even better. See answer below and I will put here. You must keep in mind that nearly 100% of the European ship hens to the Barcelona mated and most on a small baby. If they are all mated on a small baby the odds are a mated hen on a baby will be the best. This is what they have always done. If they flew the same hens celibate they would have great results. Many Europeans just started racing hens. Most only flew cocks for decades. The hens fanciers were always superstars like Gaston De Wouwer, Remi De Mey, Flor Vervoort etc. These guys dominated. I thought they were some kind of pigeon master but they were racing hens. Sometimes doing what your grand father did is not the best.

Hi Frank is it true that Apple cider vinegar also kills the good bacteria?

@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons

5 ай бұрын

I do not think so. Good bacteria is known to be an acid loving bacteria and bad bacteria likes the opposite, alkaline. I think Apple cider vinegar discourages the bad bacteria and also affects the canker organism.

@cptgaming7277

5 ай бұрын

@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons thank you for your input Frank👍

How many grams feed pigeon once a day?

@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons

4 ай бұрын

In this series of videos you can see how I feed and how much. It is important you do not over train when you feed like I do. kzread.info/head/PLfjpm1Kc9E0UkXcdnfTrnV_VKTkfNozbt

Good evening, I'm an Italian pigeon fan. I was wondering if I only keep the males without the females. Do the males remain without females all year round? Thanks 

@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons

4 ай бұрын

Hello, At the end of the race season I put the celibate hens in the cock loft and let them raise a round. I also have some great late bred from my top racers.

@danilozini3286

4 ай бұрын

Hi, I ask you one last thing but if I keep celibate males all year round without females because I don't have space to keep females

@danilozini3286

4 ай бұрын

could this be fine, I've finished the races, do I have to pair them up?

@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons

4 ай бұрын

You could keep the cocks unmated their entire career. They will get very possessive of the box and territory. They do not ever need mates to race very successfully.

@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons

4 ай бұрын

You do not have to pair them. Keep it simple

Best system to race young birds??

@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons

5 ай бұрын

I would think the Dark System is the best for young birds. I did a video on that.

@mandelamoney6927

5 ай бұрын

Goodafternoon Frank im from South Africa racing in cape town should i separate my sexes during the racing season

@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons

5 ай бұрын

Separate the sexes. You will race much better with much less work.

@mandelamoney6927

4 ай бұрын

@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons goodevening is it possible that u can give me a feeding programme please ?? I also heard u say that u use champion mix we dont have it here in south africa but van robaeys .....

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