Remembers when Pyle was the powerhouse of DJ equipment along with Pyramid Lanzar and Cerwin Vega.

@NextLevelCarAudio

2 жыл бұрын

Yep lol

Finally someone saves a sub than blowing it up THANK YOU ALL GEAR MATTERS

@NextLevelCarAudio

3 жыл бұрын

Lol.... that’s what I’m sayin’ 😂

So I’m old-school. And I’m in my 50s. About 35 years ago Pyle Was the speaker to go to if you wanted base. If you look at what they called a Pyle driver 6 x 9 it was as heavy as some of the 10 inch subs today. It’s probably 3 Times heavier than that subwoofer.

@NextLevelCarAudio

3 жыл бұрын

That’s awesome

There’s a lot of misconceptions about power in the car audio community making me glad that this video was made. People think that sending too much power to a driver will shorten its lifespan when that’s not the case. It actually plays better because of the extra dynamic power available. My Comp S that’s rated for 300 rms/600 peak receives about 500 watts of clean power and it has no problems utilizing it. As someone else said, blowing equipment is usually when clipping and excess distortion comes into play otherwise you’ll be fine. Coil may get warm but if your woofer has a good cooling system, that shouldn’t be too much of a problem either.

@bigtike0716

Жыл бұрын

Yup and the box being ported also adds to the cooling dynamics

@TimpBizkit

Жыл бұрын

Not sure, clipping is usually about tweeters because they get more power when trying to reproduce all the harmonics in squared off waves. Also tweeters are killed by inadequate crossover (set too low or with too shallow a roll off). With bass it's more about whether the music is long continuous tones without breaks, or short kicks with possibly a bass guitar line. You might be able to send a thousand watts or more to a 300 watt sub on rock music (provided displacement limits aren't exceeded in the enclosure you're using), but would kill it as soon as you switched to rap bass. I've found the dangers of excess clean power are that the speaker doesn't even sound all that bad before it dies.

@shermbot9776

Жыл бұрын

From my understanding, pofessional sound engineers generally try to use an amp which is capible of putting out 2 to 4 times more power than the driver is rated for. If I were using 100 watts to play a 40 hertz tone which results in an output of 130 db, and the recording reaches a point where the level of the 40 hertz tone dropped 10 db in the studio, it will result in reducing the amp power from 100 watts to a single watt. Having extra power provides headroom for the dynamics of music so when parts of recordings that are recorded at a lower level are reached, there is still plenty of power to drive the speakers without clipping.

@Contact_Info

Жыл бұрын

What is dirty power

@CWBchannel

Жыл бұрын

@@TimpBizkit No, clipping is not “usually about tweeters”. Clipping can occur in an amp, subwoofer, speakers, tweeters, etc.. Their are plenty of resourceful videos and articles that can explain in deeper detail about what clipping actually is. Just make sure your equipment is receiving the proper voltage/signal and you will avoid waveform extortion, therefore making sure you are not clipping and not at risk of damaging any of the components in your system. Wether it’s the amp, sub, tweeters, speakers, etc.

Respect, for not destroying good gear no matter how economic it is. It would probably shine on a Decware Deathbox.

I like your thinking man, blowing a good sub aint right

@NextLevelCarAudio

3 жыл бұрын

That’s what I’m sayin. But many do not agree lol

@goproymascosas2249

3 жыл бұрын

Waist is not fun

@nigga7387

2 жыл бұрын

“good”

@JCMDRHProductions

2 жыл бұрын

I used to blow speakers but I quickly realized its not good for the amplifier or the subwoofer so I stopped blowing them for good

@DASamX5453

2 жыл бұрын

Only way to test it...

I had pyles back in the 90's and went to Rockford's but never had a problem with pyle just wanted Rockford's because everyone else had em lol

Finally someone talking about that and not the opposite when the amp is the limiter. Also in the case of a high power amp on not even half what it can do make a lot cleaner power and is very dynamic compared to a small amp that is just enaugh for the system. Because of cleaner and more dynamik power it also sounds better :)

@NextLevelCarAudio

3 жыл бұрын

Yes sir

@NextLevelCarAudio

Жыл бұрын

Mechanical limits. You will hear it bottom out. Thermal limits you will start to smell the coil heating up

@aaronlawrence4218

Жыл бұрын

My car smells of mdf but nothing else and the smell is stuck in my brain

The part that kills speakers is distortion. Be proud you have a clean amp!

@eonreeves4324

Жыл бұрын

i never understood the saying "Overpowering your sub" only if you push the driver beyond it's range, you don't need to use 100% of the amp lol If the driver is only ever loading the amp 20% that just means that the amp is coasting all the time, never working too hard which is good for efficiency... when i build a computer i go with a PSU that will exceed the need by like 50% so the PSU is coasting never having to struggle to keep up with demand.

@NextLevelCarAudio

Жыл бұрын

Exactly

Pyles are real god i used them in the 90’s and it never disappointed…🔥👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

Thanks for not blowing it bro... I loved ur way of thinking... Now a days there are less peeps out there like u.... Never waste valuables

@NextLevelCarAudio

Жыл бұрын

Thanks :)

Love it makes me know that I need a bigger amp. That cheap Pyle really did move for $27😁💯

@NextLevelCarAudio

3 жыл бұрын

It really did move a lot more than i thought it would considering it probably does not have that much rated linear excursion. i was impressed

@RyanBassForLife

3 жыл бұрын

@@NextLevelCarAudio me too

I’ve been telling people for years that if they send clean power to a subwoofer that is not clipped and you aren’t mechanically maxing out the subwoofer then it will last a very long time. I’ve got a video on my channel showing how long it takes to blow a cheap subwoofer. Seconds is all it takes if the signal is clipped. That same 125 watt 8” subwoofer lasted 9 months with 500 clean watts going to it! That’s proof that those people bragging about blowing subwoofers just don’t know what they are doing.

@NextLevelCarAudio

2 жыл бұрын

Hell yeah!

I remember when i was a kid in the 90s pyle made some of the hardest hitting subs on the market behind cerwin vega strokers.

@NextLevelCarAudio

Жыл бұрын

Yep

@boomn247

3 ай бұрын

Also behind the lanzar dc series

I had a whole pyle system back in the days and I could make home windows vibrate and car alarms go off. Pyle and Phoenix gold was cheap but trunk bangers

I love that I found your channel I've learned so much from your videos

That Pyle held up pretty good

From experience, this subwoofer can take plenty of power but when it’s in a sealed enclosure the tensile leads get hot and break easily. I had a few of these and all of them still have broken leads. If you can find a way to reconnect them, you Will have a very good low budget sub especially once it’s broken in

Would have been nice to see/hear it mounted in a simple sealed box.

Wow!!! That was incredible!!!!!

@NextLevelCarAudio

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks

Thanks for protecting our resources and planet by not ruining the sub. Respect

@NextLevelCarAudio

Жыл бұрын

Heck yeah .

I have used pyle subs before with good success. For A CHEAP sub I never had an issue with them.

I actually remember when Pyle wasn't bad a long time ago lol. keep up the great videos. Awesome setup I'm jealous

@NextLevelCarAudio

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man. Appreciate the comment

@rowboyto156

3 жыл бұрын

ive seen a video in yt where a local news channel they did a segment on them. i never knew they used to be made in usa till i saw it

@delaneo100

3 жыл бұрын

I've got 9 pyle 15s sealed powered by 2 ignite 6000s strapped in a expedition. It's a budget build but it sounds great.

@NextLevelCarAudio

3 жыл бұрын

That’s some man!

@capt.mondaybaker3857

3 жыл бұрын

we called it pyle-o-crap lol

Using pyle gear 6.5” came with crossover box and tweeters all for 30$. They sound good for the price running from my pioneer headunit. I know my clipping volume so i play it safe.

@NextLevelCarAudio

3 жыл бұрын

Hell yeah, I was impressed with the quality for the price. In guess haters out there will always just hate

@junaidgt90

3 жыл бұрын

@@NextLevelCarAudio exactly

I'm not partial to pyle, but thank you for not turning it into a pile.

This is known throughout the world sertainly in the pro audio pa market. An ac signal has peaks but as a up and down varying signal it's not constant.If you put 3000w of a single base test tone that will probably do some damage

12kW / 4 Ohms are 219V. In this case you can plug it into a socket and enjoy the mains hum without grill the speaker.☺

@NextLevelCarAudio

Жыл бұрын

???

@CommodoreGreg

Жыл бұрын

He stated the amp is 3k at 4ohm and he didn't max it so nowhere close.

Thanx for not ruining a perfectly good sub 👍

@NextLevelCarAudio

3 жыл бұрын

That’s what I was thinking lol 😝

Pyle is actually very good. My dad had some 6x9s in his truck for years and he had it on a Jensen old school 300watt amp they have very good sound quality

It was very interesting to watch this. Thanks.

@NextLevelCarAudio

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks :)

Love your box. Lol looks like you just refurbished a TV stand or one of those 40s turn table cabinets

@NextLevelCarAudio

3 жыл бұрын

😂

First system back in 1996 2 10" Pyle's on a 400watt Jensen amp In my 86' Ford Escort wagon. Back when power was a buck a watt.

Best video I’ve seen in a while

@NextLevelCarAudio

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man

Very nice informative video to small installer like me happy new year sir ang more blessing to come from phillipines

1995 had friend in south africa runni g 2x 15 inch pyles in heavy duty ported box he was hitting 151db giving earth quake and rockford a good run.

I have the Pyle tube sub and it slaps it’s hella old bc they used to make quality bangers

@NextLevelCarAudio

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome 😎

Not cheap, just the price of it. Honest work & great video . keep it up. Ill support & subscribe.

@NextLevelCarAudio

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks

Came to watch you blow this up cos im looking to buy some was surprised to see you spare its life like an undersized fish. Just keep swimming little pyle!

@NextLevelCarAudio

3 жыл бұрын

😆

I love the way you think! Why waste perfectly good equipment. I am an old school Rockford Fosgate guy (built my first system in 1992 in my 89 IROC Z28. Still have all my old Fosgate amps. I ran a Rockford Fosgate Prime R2D4-10 on my Fosgate 1200-1D amp for a month before I finished my center seat enclosure for my Skar EVL-10 D2. The birth sheet on the 1200-1D is 849 RMS @ 4ohm. That little Prime 10 trooper is rated for 400 peak and stood in there just fine! It is in my wifes car now being driven with my Rockford Fosgate 301M amp.

@NextLevelCarAudio

2 жыл бұрын

Nice!

Nailed it at the end 👍🏼

@NextLevelCarAudio

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

OMG, this Amp is a Beauty ❤

nice videos bro watching your videos very helpful

@NextLevelCarAudio

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Im with you man! Why blow a good Sub! It’s definitely some new bass head inexpensive gear to get started! Just good enough to get him hooked line and sinker!

@NextLevelCarAudio

3 жыл бұрын

Yep 😂

@danielsypher8832

3 жыл бұрын

Hey my brother in law has your same goverment..lol😮😂😝

@NextLevelCarAudio

3 жыл бұрын

😆

@NextLevelCarAudio

2 жыл бұрын

Dang bro.... angry much? Lol. I’ll pray for your soul

@hollywoodthedj1673

2 жыл бұрын

@@NextLevelCarAudio ... Factz angry for no damn reason smh🤣

I remember when Pyle Drivers were awesome subs. long time ago. The Pyramid bought them out. All downhill from there

@NextLevelCarAudio

2 жыл бұрын

Yep

@taftkid7365

2 жыл бұрын

80s shiiid

Back in the gap about 12 years ago my box guy back then was for hooking up everything. He put together big $10,000, $15,000 systems but he actually preferred doing the pyle and spl brands and shit like that and man use to make that shit sound stupid good. High's lows every thing

@NextLevelCarAudio

3 жыл бұрын

That’s awesome!

@hollywoodthedj1673

2 жыл бұрын

That’s what I’m talking about

It's secretly a FunkyPup... you need to hook at least three more of those amps to it

This is why I tell people to overspend on the amp and just get cheap subs

@NextLevelCarAudio

3 жыл бұрын

Yep

Great video boss

Damn that box looks nice

@NextLevelCarAudio

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man :)

Damn I didnt no the little red plye could flex that much😁😁🔊🔊

@riym07

2 жыл бұрын

If you put it in an enclosure it will blow at 4k rms

@jarredjepjrt6541

9 ай бұрын

💪

@jarredjepjrt6541

9 ай бұрын

💪

Glad you didn't blow it up. When I was 10 or 11 years old I would have loved to have that sub. Hell even in my early teens I would have appreciated it.

Thats what a bass knob is for. Its actually reccomend to have a larger amp that your subs can handle. The more headroom you have in your amp. The more control you will have over your subs. Your not stressing your amp so its not generating any additional heat.

@NextLevelCarAudio

Жыл бұрын

That was honestly the point of this video. The beauty of Headroom

Amp power is only half the story. Distortion and clipping will kill it faster than over powering it in very short bursts. As long as you don't hit xmax and bottom it out it can probably take 800 or more for a good while before getting toasty. Got some old school road masters rsw80 dual voice coil subs and they are rated for 40 watts per coil or something close to that and I've pushed them with 100 watts plus driving them hard to the mechanical limits *with out bottoming out* for extended periods and while they did get pretty warm they did not darken the voice coils and they did not blow.

@NextLevelCarAudio

2 жыл бұрын

Yes sir. That was the point of this video honestly. To show that you can connect a low power sub to a high power amp and still run it OK as long as you set gains accordingly.

When I first saw this man, I instantly was reminded of John Leguizamo... he very slightly resembles him .

@NextLevelCarAudio

3 жыл бұрын

😆 😎

I've got some cheap Jensen 12s for 30 dollars a peace from Walmart even though they are under powered they sound pretty good.lmma buy me 2more and a quad box soon

@NextLevelCarAudio

3 жыл бұрын

Thats cool man. keep it bangin'

I bet you two of these 10 inch pyles in the right box will sound great for the everyday driver who just wants the car to sound good with good bass not to heard from blocks away just enough for the person inside now I’m curious lol

@NextLevelCarAudio

2 жыл бұрын

I bet too! 💯

I remember the old school subwoofers from Walmart called VR3 for 20 bucks for a 12 inch, those good old days

@NextLevelCarAudio

Жыл бұрын

lol

Only thing I would’ve done differently is found a kid that just started driving and starting in the system world and gave it to him. Either way cool video

Pyle name was bought around 1990. Sound Around a distributor in NYC, owns the name. originally Utah speakers the worlds largest speaker company at one point, 50s or 60s.

loved the video

@NextLevelCarAudio

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks :)

If you pair two of those 10’s with an 800watt amp and put them in a cealed enclosure they won’t blow no matter what and they’ll sound very impressive.

@NextLevelCarAudio

3 жыл бұрын

Nice

@hollywoodthedj1673

2 жыл бұрын

I’m actually thinking about trying that theory I need something cheap to put in my Honda hatch back

@earnedlolxd453

2 жыл бұрын

i have 2 10's 300 watts in total. 1600 watt amp. scared to max. can i? in a tightly closed area

@NextLevelCarAudio

2 жыл бұрын

I would not max it out. I’d find max gain then reduce by 75%. That will give you right around 400 watts.

@Rafael-lg1vw

2 жыл бұрын

@@earnedlolxd453 max out the subs yeah, just don’t max out the amp or you’ll blow the subs

I have a cheap pioneer 12 that throws out ridiculous low bass I have it on a 1000 watt phoenix gold amplifier love it

For kicks you should do 2 of them in an enclosure and see how they sound.

Hey Kimo, I just got done watching your video on your new build. Very nice. Just wanted to say Hi. I sent you a message the other day. But I finally realized that you changed your number. All good. Have a good day.

Love that h2

Great video...What song were you playing when you tested the red speaker? It sounds good...

@NextLevelCarAudio

3 жыл бұрын

Digital drop by bass mecanic. It is only on the dB jams volume 21 cd. Can not find it anywhere else lol

Used to run Pyle's 40 years ago...

I love to watch things get blown up. But I don’t see the point in blowing up cheap or expensive subwoofers. Entertaining video for my morning bowl.

@NextLevelCarAudio

3 жыл бұрын

i agree man :P

Good job on making this video without destroying a piece of the earth. Understand the demonstration is to show that underpowered sub can handle high power amp if the gain is set correctly. But what about sound quality? are these subs producing reasonable sound quality for those who are budget constrained?

@NextLevelCarAudio

2 жыл бұрын

I Did not test the SQ. Maybe for a future video I’ll put a budget sub in a spec enclosure to see how it matches up

@jarredjepjrt6541

9 ай бұрын

I did on An older model plg 10 gear series (light purple coloured ) its ok i used it playing full range at first its ok but wen used as mid range with passive cross overs sounds splendid ' i still use it with a 3 wat home amp with a 2 way split (2" 5w tweeter ) i was shocked that the sub still played on such low power with digital eq on ( an set for the type of music one plays ) jus manages to fill the room an not disturb the negibours and their pets complaints for every day use ( music an gaming ) i cant wait to learn abt these newer models

For the next experiment.. Can 20 pyle subwoofers on 6k watts produce more xpl than 2 high priced sundown subs.

@NextLevelCarAudio

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds fun

Yeah i used to to play shit out of 2x 15" JBL GT152 subs back in the days(25 years ago or so), they where rated something like 300w peak and i was putting to em around 2000-3000w rms, they where just fine around 2 years until one of em burn, but they where so loose already that they where gone anyway at that point.. after those i got Hifonics 15", that never burned but was rated something like 1000-1500rms :D

Pyle use to be the shit back in the day. They sounded good to. Even back then they sure weren’t $20

Just found your channel. I have to say I really like the box you have. Did you build it yourself?

@NextLevelCarAudio

Жыл бұрын

Down4sound pricey but good quality

in a more extreme example in my 4th order (2 cu ft seal 5.75 ported tuned to 42) i have 2 hd (rated 4k each)12s @ .5 each hooked to 1 bass 8k per sub and things are pretty peachy til she's 2 clicks from max haha. (coil gets a lil stinky)

@NextLevelCarAudio

3 жыл бұрын

Nice 😂

2:45 it actually looks a lot like Sony Xplode from way back in the day like 2006ish era

I really want to see somebody build a wall using $20 Subs. I know somebody who built a walled system using nvx N series Subs. it was impressive

That brand has been awesome for. Any many years

I have 2 12inch 875 watt a peice subs from walmart( dual brand)..I've had car alarms go off and police called from neighbors. Have them hooked up to a skar 1200 watt mono block. They hit hard for cheap brand to the point I've never taken them out.

@NextLevelCarAudio

Жыл бұрын

Nice man!

Trying a bargain build with 2 12” Power Acoustik gothic GW-124, 1200 Rms, DVC 4 ohms. Hooked to a Kruel 6800 watt 4321 channel amp. Not sure the Rms on the amp. Wondering if it sounds feasible to run them on it. The 12s are in a sealed dual box.

@NextLevelCarAudio

3 жыл бұрын

I think you win new just fine! It’s really all in setting the gains. Do that right and your golden

I recently ordered the pyle power 15, lots of people say they're crap and im gonna find out what it does on clean power

@NextLevelCarAudio

3 жыл бұрын

Hell yeah 😎

@Tmanstomp100

3 жыл бұрын

@@NextLevelCarAudio Okay so update.... It'll probably take around 300-400 watts RMS, it blew on 600 but it didn't destroy the coil it just shorted out causing my amp to randomly go into protect

@NextLevelCarAudio

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback

Got a question on the Boss AR & Boss elite amps both are 4000D monoblock with the same features & button... why can i not stapped the two together

@NextLevelCarAudio

2 жыл бұрын

You will have electrical and power alignment issues. They share the load when strapped, if not the same model amp, you will have big problems

0:08 Pyle? Back in the olden days, 1990, they was the shit. High school, reading car audio magazine, and seeing cars in the hood, that had systems.👌🏿

pyle made 18s and I replaced some destroyed cerwin vega drivers with 2 pyles in the junior earthquake cabinets and you know what they pounded

I hate how hes look just above the camera but its a good video i can say that

Question for you? I have an old school MA audio amp HC-4002. Rockford fosgate P-400-4. Audio Control 6x crossover pre amp line driver, Audio Control EQS Consert Series EQ duel bandwidth pre amp line driver, Rockford fosgate 6 1/2 prime components with crossovers also. Rockford fosgate 6×9's. Pioneer head unit. It's the older unit with the built in crossover and EQ with multiple displays etc. Any advice as to whether I should ditch the crossovers for the separates and run straight from amp? But then what do I do about the 6×9's if the 4 channels are tied up. Should I ditch the audio Control EQ AND cross over and run it from my head unit? Or keep all that etc. I had this In a 84 Camaro. And pulled it out to put in my semi. Oh, and 2 Rockford fosgate punch 10's T-1'S. Any information is greatly appreciated

@NextLevelCarAudio

3 жыл бұрын

Sorry for the delayed response. If I were you, I’d keep the crossovers that came with your components. For 2 reasons. 1, They are already dialed in by the manufacturer for your mid/tweet to perform optimally. And 2, frees up channels 3&4 for your 6x9’s. If you got a decent head unit with lots of functionality, I like adjusting the settings from the actual head unit so I can fine tune easily on the fly if desired.

@MrMan-ol4ic

3 жыл бұрын

@@NextLevelCarAudio thank you for your time. Keep thumpin brother

@NextLevelCarAudio

3 жыл бұрын

Sure thing!

it did alot better than the rockville k9 and blaupunkt sub bigdwiz tested

@NextLevelCarAudio

3 жыл бұрын

I know i was definitely surprised at how well it took the power. free air at that!

It almost looks like an old Sony Xplode

Incredible to say the least! What is the name of the Tune You're playing?

@NextLevelCarAudio

3 жыл бұрын

Name is digital drop. Only available on the DB Jams V20 cd

Chances of amp popping from blown speaker?

Dude if you could have gotten some funky pup subs from the 80's that'd have been hilarious

@NextLevelCarAudio

2 жыл бұрын

Lol

Very nice

@NextLevelCarAudio

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks

The lower the sensitivity @ 1 watt per meter the more power it takes to power that woofer.

Back in the old days in 1980---1990. If you 😂😂😂😂have 8 of those with 500 watts amps... you be happiest kids in the block ahhhhhhhhhhh

Put it in a box.. im curious how its sound

That did better than my Skar SDR 12" that shit the bed at about 400 W.

Nice

What amp would you recommend for a pair of Skar SDR-10, 600w rms. Currently on an AudioPipe apmi-1500 at 1 ohm. They still feel like they can give me more.

@NextLevelCarAudio

3 жыл бұрын

Any amp that puts out about 2k at 1 ohm you should be golden. The Skar RP series is a good bang for the buck. Then you can keep it all skar.

@davidnievesjr.9478

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback!

I need some help if you can. When I turn my stereo to a volume of 10 or below my amp for my subs turns off. As soon as I turn it up the amp comes in and my sums start working again. What could be the cause for that? I have a DNX8120 stereo with a JL Audio 500/1v2 mono amp.

@NextLevelCarAudio

2 жыл бұрын

I have never heard anything like that before. Interesting.... I’ll ask around

From my experiance. Dating back to alma gates beast bronco days. Pyle is durable, but sound quailty aint very good

Heck yeah man I’m with you there is no need of blowing a good sub and did it thump tho?