World War III 'will happen' if Russia beats Ukraine | LBC analysis
As Ukraine's Prime Minister warns there 'will be World War III' if Ukraine loses its conflict with Russia, Andrew Marr speaks to Lord Nick Houghton, Former Chief of the Defence Staff and Professor Peter Frankopan, Professor of Global History at Oxford.
In an interview with the BBC in Washington, Denys Shmyhal spoke on the need for US security assistance, stressing: "We need this money yesterday, not tomorrow, not today.
"If we will not protect... Ukraine will fall. So the global, the global system of security will be destroyed... and all the world will need to find... a new system of security.
"Or, there will be many conflicts, many such kinds of wars, and in the end of the day, it could lead to the Third World War."
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If Ukraine is given a billion trillion dollars, not even that can help them.
@everready800
Ай бұрын
Because you can print U.S. dollars but you can't print Ukrainian soldiers
@ChainsawUsers
Ай бұрын
You have a crystal ball ?
@everready800
Ай бұрын
@ChainsawUsers You can print dollars but you can't print Ukrainian soldiers
@gnrseanra9070
16 күн бұрын
@@ChainsawUsersJack Teixeira you 🤡
Russia isn’t at war with Ukraine it’s at war with the USA Britain and the EU but I don’t remember Putin threatening any of those countries.
@giftedtheos
Ай бұрын
It's at war with Ukraine. Cut the BS Russian talking points
The mistake we made was educating the masses. The men and women of fighting age will not give their lives for a corrupt country like ours unlike their naive ancestors.
@AH--173
Ай бұрын
Why is that a mistake?
@BadlydrawnBen
Ай бұрын
There was nothing naive about our ancestors we had a country and a culture worth fighting for then
@robertwilson214
Ай бұрын
@@BadlydrawnBenyou're naive😂
@BadlydrawnBen
Ай бұрын
@@robertwilson214 and we where nearly speaking German
@yousausage
Ай бұрын
Just a reminder that we have under 500 Muslim service men in the army. Immigration works (not). I Shan't be fighting and dying for this country.
i think that Conservative MP had the whip taken away from him in more ways than one
@Stalwartandstaunch
Ай бұрын
😂😂😂
British propaganda and war mongering 😂😂
@Dynasty1818
Ай бұрын
Negativity and fear gets clicks.
@stillkickinbandgeorgianbay900
Ай бұрын
It was Mr Putin who unilaterally chose to illegally militarily invade a sovereign, internationally recognized nation and society. Ukraine posed no similar threat to Mr Putin's Russian Federation. No threat of first military strike, and no threat to militarily invade the Russian Federation either. Consider first the actions of Mr Putin, as whatever he is stating about the invasion is at minimum... 90% pure misdirection narrative, and bluffing.
@trogdortpennypacker6160
Ай бұрын
@@Dynasty1818 Agreed it's all about ratings and $$$.
@markhill6420
Ай бұрын
Needs to calm down.
@jimbrown4456
Ай бұрын
Let them send their children.
what a clown show all MSM in the UK has become
@stephenhill545
Ай бұрын
MSM; a buzzword first coined by Josef Goebbels, that well-known 20. Century conspiracy theorist and letch.
@captain_context9991
Ай бұрын
Compared to what exactly.
@robertwilson214
Ай бұрын
@@captain_context9991being educated..zzzzz
@captain_context9991
Ай бұрын
@@robertwilson214 Oh, I know. I know. Thats always the attitude I get. but, youknow... Im perfectly fine with that. Im OK with being educated in a world of people that are not.
@user-mm4hq4yj8v
Ай бұрын
UK has gone mad post brexit
“When all fails, they take you to war”
@edvigq
Ай бұрын
When what fails? Do you mean Putin's need to control Ukranian sovereignty and prevent closer ties to the EU (what actually started this conflict)? Why should Putin's desire to control Ukraine be given a higher priority than Ukraine's desire to control Ukraine? Peace is not incompatible with slavery. It is not always the desirable end goal people think it is. Why should putin's "concerns" trump Ukraine's concerns?
@brothercaleb
Ай бұрын
@@edvigq interesting 🤔 There’s a tape of a certain V Nuland talking to the US ambassador to Ukraine discussing regime change which saw a “democratically elected president” ousted in a coup. She can be heard “F the EU”. Question: were you / are you in favour of this?
@michaelevans4110
Ай бұрын
@@edvigq Because Ukraine got the war they wanted.
To properly understand the Nato-backed Ukraine/Russia conflict, I recommend people listen to Professor Mearsheimer, Scott Ritter, US (Retired) Colonel Douglas Macgregor and Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Chris Hedges, and even the Pope. LBC Mr Marr's above narrative and tone reminds me of Chris Hedges stating "When 'the West' goes to war, the MSM Media falls into line with its 'Patriotic Cheerleading'."
Let’s be honest here. Russia never brought military hardware near European borders. NATO expanded out to threaten Russian on its borders. This war has been disastrous for Ukraine, and the sad thing is, it’s been totally unnecessary. Ukraine could have had peace in exchange for neutrality and agreement they wouldn’t join NATO. Now the country is shafted.
@Joshpox
Ай бұрын
Russia quite regularly puts military hardware on their borders, and sends planes into the airspace of other nations, including neutral states like Ireland
@allansmith3837
Ай бұрын
This war has been about one thing America. And Britain follows them like poodles because we have never had leader to tell them politely to F off.
@gerardgallagher4427
Ай бұрын
Also posioned people on British soil using a Novichoc nerve agent
@neavius
Ай бұрын
Na, Russia did not start this a year or so ago…Russia has been after Ukraine since 2014 , sorry ,Russia has wanted Ukraine since it went independent ..Russia will get it back ….NATO knows that he will stop at NATO countries…that’s why it will be sacrificed….this was just an USA Europe ego proxy war ….and now they will just let it go
@prazzy5356
Ай бұрын
@@gerardgallagher4427you conspiracy theorist 😂
Let him send his sons warmonger
@chrisscott7990
Ай бұрын
Are you talking about Putin? I assume you are.
@tclanjtopsom4846
Ай бұрын
Nato should have joined this conflict at the start. There's already a war started by putin and we have a duty to help
@edvigq
Ай бұрын
Putin will never do that. He won't even go near his own front line
@James-hd6ez
Ай бұрын
@tclanjtopsom4846 The west Nato started this in 2014 ,educate yourself before making comments 😮 also if Nato don't back off then the world ends in thermo nuclear war, is that what you want?
@justicedone3929
Ай бұрын
@@James-hd6eznato didn't invade ukraine in 2014 that was pedotin
"Defending the international rule of law"...what a joke.
@stillkickinbandgeorgianbay900
Ай бұрын
Not a joke, as deliberately using a military invasion to expand your own sovereign territory is wrong regardless of whatever nation is trying to do this.
@edvigq
Ай бұрын
So your answer is to defend no attempt at international law? That would be a joke if it were funny. Look up the russian videos of their soldiers beheading wriggling Ukranian prisoners. Look up the interviews with the Ukranian prisoners they castrated before exchanging. Tell me what is funny about wanting to be better than that?
@kareemfree9668
Ай бұрын
@@stillkickinbandgeorgianbay900 Like Israel
@wolfswinkel8906
Ай бұрын
@@edvigq I've seen no such videos even after a google search. Can you name one of such video titles here on YT? Or are you making up propaganda as usual?
@stillkickinbandgeorgianbay900
Ай бұрын
@@kareemfree9668 I am definitely not in favour of allowing Israel to erase the Palestine homeland. Hamas did directly, and militarily attack Israel, while Ukraine did nothing of this sort to provoke the Russian Federation. But regardless of this, there should be a Palestinian, sovereign homeland.
Remember when Westminster welcomed Zelensky like clapping seals .. Been another huge scam
@user-zm9kd8yz4c
Ай бұрын
Like the pan banging for the NHS
Or they could have spared hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian lives by just making a deal 3 years ago when they had the upper hand. No one wins against a nuclear powered country, it's lunacy to try this militarily
@Joshpox
Ай бұрын
Many people have won against a nuclear powered country. Most famously, Russia and the USA both giving up on Afghanistan.
@paulafrasineanu6885
Ай бұрын
Boris Jonson .
Warmonger!
Let's have a referendum to find out if the British people want to keep sending billions of pounds to Ukraine.
@flesz_
Ай бұрын
Never gonna happen It's not a democratic country
@everready800
Ай бұрын
Exactly! When teachers strike they're told we have to be fair to the taxpayer's.
@bw9927
Ай бұрын
€260 billion of Russian assets have been frozen in European accounts. €6 billion has been earned in interest on that money so far. This will be used to rebuild Ukraine and will go to European and American contractors. I would imagine that Ukraine will be on the hook for the money given to it for decades. Some of the money will have already been used to pay British businesses. War is business. Simple.
@everready800
Ай бұрын
@bw9927 Blackrock are ready to own what's left of Ukraine
@grahamhireme9283
Ай бұрын
NHS waiting lists are a reality. The money could be far better spent on UK defence which might benefit exports opportunities instead. Most of the money is going to US businesses albeit some operate out of UK. It’s worthwhile having a look at Mauriupol and how Russia has rebuilt that in the last two years. Russia is about to wrap this up in the next couple of months. Currently the front line is collapsing and the Ukrainians who know better are running away or surrendering. Russia won’t invade NATO nations because of nuclear deterrents
How about talking about peace deal instead of trying to defeat Russia?
@captain_context9991
Ай бұрын
Peace with who... Russia? Russia is the ones doing the war. You are aware of that, right?
@OhYeah32
Ай бұрын
Peace deal ? Someone takes your Country and won’t give it back 😂
@brotherlestat305
Ай бұрын
Sorry but none of us dont care about eastern ukraine. @@OhYeah32
@idakev
Ай бұрын
@@brotherlestat305 Okay Neville Chamberlain. I'm sure your thought process has always worked before.
@ryanc3687
Ай бұрын
@@OhYeah32clueless 😂
why nato pushing towards war when there is option of ceasefire and open up dialogue with all the party’s involve,again usa using nato to protect is own empire with no interest in heart for the citizens of Europe who will suffer the consequences.Europe needs to wake-up before it’s to late.
Ukraine are only still in the game with so many more dead because of the massive amount of financial and military support they have received from Western countries, if they had been left to their own devices they would have capitulated and this was would have been over in 2022, tens of thousands of people would still be alive and peace would most likely be prevailing in the region by now.
@guillermoelnino
Ай бұрын
10s? try 100s. Zelensky keeps sending cannon fodder and r ussian artillery is cheap.
@bakedbean37
Ай бұрын
@@guillermoelnino "r ussian artillery is cheap." Not half as cheap as it's meat.
You have so far given Ukraine more than $100 billion; what limited support are you talking about? why don’t you just admit the fact that it was deemed a catastrophic failure right from day one?!
@Litheon11
Ай бұрын
How did appeasement go in 1939?... we must support Ukraine
@ninakostic1592
Ай бұрын
@@Litheon11 No matter what you do even if you join your nonexisting army you will loose you were always going to lose from start of in 2014
@Riffman08-dz6pv
Ай бұрын
Because they need to turn the world against Putin... Western Europe wants to loot Eastern Europe
@Dorakuwel
Ай бұрын
@@Litheon11 Are you suggesting that the western allies provoked the German invasion of Poland in 1939?!? If not then how has that got anything to do with the current situation in Ukr?!?
@Joshpox
Ай бұрын
@Dorakuwel The western allies pledged to defend Poland if they were invaded. When we do that in Ukraine you call it provocation
Ukraine is not fighting on our behalf stop that fallacy please.
@stillkickinbandgeorgianbay900
Ай бұрын
In a direct viewpoint, Ukraine is simply fighting to defend their very existence as a sovereign nation and society. In an indirect viewpoint, if the Ukraine is successful in stopping, or limiting Mr Putin's expansionist desires, this does give pause to Mr Putin, or any other autocratic, authoritative leader from attempting to militarily invade any other sovereign, internationally nation on Earth.
@mobsiesixsixsix9785
Ай бұрын
Well to be fair they are.We fund them and give them our old weapons to cause problems for Russia and then we get to make new weapons and bankrupt Ukraine making them pay it back. It's been like this for decades. Also they can blame the war for high fuel and food costs. We're being taken for mugs.
@7ookee
Ай бұрын
Ukraine buying old stock and testing new stock. As far as the military industrial complex is concerned Ukraine is a proxy.
@Riffman08-dz6pv
Ай бұрын
British lies
@bobpond5024
Ай бұрын
No they aren’t but at some point Nato will get dragged into it then east and south Asia, China ,also Oceania if Ukraine don’t stop Russia
Ukraine could have had peace by now if Boris Johnson hadn't gone over in 2022 to tell them not to agree a peace deal. Whenever Boris Johnson has an idea everyone knows this idea will lead to catastrophe. Unfortunately for the Ukranians they weren't aware of this.
@captain_context9991
Ай бұрын
Blaming that war on Boris Johnson is a bit of a stretch, isnt it.
@ozzyphil74
Ай бұрын
@@captain_context9991No one blames him for the war, at least not directly, but the fact that a peace wasn't reached is down to him.
@mrennie5158
Ай бұрын
@@ozzyphil74 your argument removes the will of millions of Ukrainians and puts it down to one man from another country that wasn’t initially involved.
@gazmasonik2411
Ай бұрын
@@ozzyphil74absolutely true. Boris advised them not to sign the peace accords.
@guillermoelnino
Ай бұрын
@@captain_context9991 I blame the war 100% on NATO
Nobody will fight for your egos try and see people have been very patient
Zelensky should never have listened to Boris Johnson. Russia said no NATO on their doorstep, Ukraine has been sacrificed.
@jamietowndrow7817
Ай бұрын
Boris has a lot of blood on his hands
@uttaradit2
Ай бұрын
johnson takes orders from the yanks like all uk foreign policy since 1945
@Joshpox
Ай бұрын
We know that's not the actual motive. There are 6 NATO nations bordering Russia.
@Joshpox
Ай бұрын
Sorry, but an independent nation isn't Russia's doorstep. If a former Russian colony wants to join an anti-Russian alliance that's their prerogative.
@shreddedguy679
Ай бұрын
@@Joshpoxwrong, kiev does due to the gov nato put there in 2014 coup, eastern ukraine has voted 2x overwhelmingly to join russia
Warmonger .... Seriously...why he not saying peace....... My thought are stop pumping the narrative.
@Joshpox
Ай бұрын
We can have peace tomorrow, Russia just need to withdraw their troops
@MuzorewaRatshikuni
Ай бұрын
@@Joshpox Why would Russia, on a winning streak, withdraw their forces? Are you daft?
@rewdwarf123
Ай бұрын
@@MuzorewaRatshikuni It's not just that. They really believe their troops are in their own country.
Soo... You finally admit that this is a proxy war not a Ukraine war 😂😂😂😂 after 2yrs
@justsomefella1489
Ай бұрын
War between right (Ukraine) and wrong (russia)
@Evergreen0021
Ай бұрын
I'm shocked!
@flopoz2575
Ай бұрын
It can be both, so no one has admitted anything. For the west is is a proxy war in a sense, that the west is not directly involved. But for Ukrainians it is very much an existential war in which they fight for their freedom and right to self determination.
@mikejohn2999
Ай бұрын
@@Evergreen0021 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@brothercaleb
Ай бұрын
I was shocked to hear that. Really amazing times 😮
We do not want war and crime, peace, we are all brothers and sisters❤❤❤❤❤❤
Russia has beaten NATO and proxy Ukraine as of yet the sky is still up there so lets pray people will accept the facts like they should have yes'ed the peace offer in 2022
Ukraine is already strategically defeated 😂
@Riffman08-dz6pv
Ай бұрын
They don't even have a air defense anymore.This is just evil
@JP-lk2qs
Ай бұрын
Slava Ukraine
MAKE PEACE with the world. Stop this madness, or watch the end of EU.
@garytorresani8846
Ай бұрын
How about the end of the world if this escalates into nuclear weapons.
Who would have guessed military experts with a vested interest in ensuring the military complex continues making money and maintaining their jobs would give their non biased view that we must continue providing weapons to Ukraine on the premise of world peace 🤦♂️
Obviously he has shares in the military
@captain_context9991
Ай бұрын
You cant do that in the UK. America, sure. But not the UK.
@guillermoelnino
Ай бұрын
@@captain_context9991 not legally...
@captain_context9991
Ай бұрын
@@guillermoelnino "The military" is not something you can invest in or own parts of. In the US, you can.
@mwd331
Ай бұрын
Obviously, based on zero proof or truth. But obviously.
@guillermoelnino
Ай бұрын
@@captain_context9991 y ou'd be surprised. If y ou were capable of thought.
I think Ukraine is wildly over estimating their importance in the world. If Russia wins, I think the rest of the world wont notice. For the most part.
@user-hj4vw5kf5h
Ай бұрын
If Russia wins they take over Europe and eventually US
@lukeswan7776
Ай бұрын
Clueless. It’s not just about Ukraine, it’s also about Taiwan. If America won’t defend Ukraine then China is going to gamble they can take Taiwan.
@captain_context9991
Ай бұрын
@@lukeswan7776 It would seem so yes.... But is America defending Ukraine? No... they are not. Whatever gave you that idea.
@emazjassam2452
Ай бұрын
@@lukeswan7776America is the country wich brings problems in the world in quest of being the only super power
@stephenhill545
Ай бұрын
45 million Ukranians will notice.
Can they started explaining the difference between "rules-based order" versus "law based order". Maybe it would all understand what is in play.
@nemosays6337
Ай бұрын
They bang on about 'Rule based order' which is a literal excuse not to abide by International law! there is no 'Rule based order' only corrupt states breaking International law! js
@mohammedmir777
Ай бұрын
Please don't mention "law based order" just follow the American based order 😂😂
@nemosays6337
Ай бұрын
@@mohammedmir777 - There is no such thing as "Rule Based Order" there is only the breaking of 'International Law'!
@aleph8888
Ай бұрын
The rules based order is based on sovereignty aka the legal equality of UN member states. Big or small it doesn’t matter, they are vested with juridical equality. That’s why Russia cannot just do what it wants in Ukraine. Imperialists hate sovereignty.
@jologo18
Ай бұрын
The "rules-based international order" (the "RBIO") is just a term the US made up because international law imposes too many inconvenient obligations on nations, including the US. Hence, the US only calls for the application of international law when it is advantageous to it. When international law is disadvantageous, it is ignored. By applying the label "rules-based international order," the inherent hypocrisy of this sophistry is elided. For example, unilateral sanctions (as opposed to UN imposed sanctions) have dubious legality under international law, but are a mainstay of US foreign policy, and by extension of the US-invented "rules-based international order." This is consonant with the principal objective of US foreign policy, which is to maintain "full spectrum" global dominance that is the essence of the so-called "Wolfowitz doctrine." Caitlin Johnstone defines the RBIO as "... an order in which the US makes up the rules [that] nations had better obey .... It means rules for thee but not for me."
This isn't 1939 again when those in power literally had a monopoly over the "truth" and reality
Victoria Nulands departure signalled the beginning of the end.
Your opening remarks are not an accurate framing of the Ukraine conflict. This war, which is essentially about NATO expansion and Russian fears of a hostile power on its southern border, was completely avoidable. But it wasn’t avoided owing to Western arrogance and intransigence. (See its scuppering of the peace talks in Istanbul in March 2022.) Ukraine was never going to win this war, and there is nothing the West can do to change the outcome. It's not only a matter of material now, but of trained soldiers - of which Ukraine has no more supply. People like Scott Ritter have been predicting this result for 2 years. If you weren't so blinkered in your reporting, you would be aware of such alternative viewpoints, and Ukraine's inevitable defeat wouldn't come as such a surprise.
@dreamcoyote
Ай бұрын
So, it had nothing to do with Putin keeping a neighbor under his thumb and controlling the oligarchs who brought him wealth and ensuring unfettered access to his treasured Black Sea port from which he could threaten trade and neighbors throughout the region? He was super concerned about NATO, which is already on his borders.. yeah...
@lilacer6841
Ай бұрын
@@dreamcoyoteno
@lilacer6841
Ай бұрын
@@dreamcoyotewho did Putin threaten?
@naathnaath6377
Ай бұрын
NO....@@dreamcoyote
@dreamcoyote
Ай бұрын
@@lilacer6841 lol. Ukraine. Moldova. Look, Ukrainians were tired of dealing with Russian corruption. They just aren't that into you. OK? Putin didn't want to lose the economic control. He knows no one is going to invade Russia. Russia has more nukes than anyone.
😂😂😂😂 some of us have beem saying that for 2 years now
@bengaltiger1289
Ай бұрын
It really amped up in Europe and the UK since General Patrick Sanders called for conscription back in Jan
Andrew marr needs to stop saying ww3
@johndonald7608
Ай бұрын
Why? It will happen, if we allow Putin to continue.
@glennbuckley682
Ай бұрын
@@johndonald7608 I’m optimistic that it won’t I’m against World War III
@glennbuckley682
Ай бұрын
@@johndonald7608 putin will lose this war with Ukraine 🇺🇦 and he will say I’m a sore loser and get back to normal and continue with peace as defeated guy
@glennbuckley682
Ай бұрын
@@johndonald7608 I want world that is peace but I don’t want world going into the abyss,I’m choosing a world with no world war.we all want to be alive for the next lifetime.
Isn't Nick that guy who's take is always wrong?! from russia running out of missiles in a year to saying Iran will attack america.... I'd take whatever he say with a massive dose of salt.
Oh dear, better tell that to the Ukrainian soldiers surrendering en-mass to Russia.
@captain_context9991
Ай бұрын
They CERTAINLY are not surrendering en-masse to Russia. But a lot of them now live in various European countries as refugees. In no hurry to go back to their own country.
@davidcald5975
Ай бұрын
Agree Ukrainians are surrendering to russia ❤
@bluesclues132
Ай бұрын
@@captain_context9991can’t blame them .
What difference you could have made??? When you going to apologize to your listeners for lying to them for 3 years now?
Int. rules based order,, iraq x2, libya, serbia..
“International rules based order” 😂 . . . Hasn’t any one told him that we have given all of that up for Israel
@allansmith3837
Ай бұрын
He means American rules and orders.
That Londongrad is not supporting Ukraine is not exactly surprising, isn't it?
A war of attrition. Moscow's strong game
@captain_context9991
Ай бұрын
Attrition is Russias favourite game through history.
GROW FOOD 🥝 ON OUR BEAUTIFUL❤️ PLANET🌎. NOT WEAPONS 😂
Don't judge others by yourselves. Brits and Americans might be bloodthirsty cowards but that does not mean that the Chinese and Russians are the same.
The words Proxy war 😂 caught him off guard, andrew marr is a legend 👏
WE DONT WANT WAR
@andrewtodd5014
Ай бұрын
It doesn’t matter what we want!
I told everyone, NATO cant win this war.
@EpicCrust
Ай бұрын
😂
@captain_context9991
Ай бұрын
Is NATO fighting this war? No... No they arent.
@mrennie5158
Ай бұрын
Sorry Botski NATO are not fighting this war. Enjoy your potato.
@czevzi
Ай бұрын
The West, even just Europe alone has the industrial potential to beat Russia in war, assuming full dedication to the war effort. In short term, Russia could have the upper hand in Eastern Europe though.
@claudinefiona9698
Ай бұрын
@@czevzilol but they have no ammunition, limited air defence systems and limited long range missiles. Do you watch your own media???
Proxy war on behalf of NATO im old enough to remember when that was taboo to say
He forgot lack of Ukrainians 😂😂
@user-nc2qj2jc5q
Ай бұрын
There are plenty in Spain riding there BMWs around. The ones who have money ,patriotism is for the poor..
But uk msm been saying Russia's economy is crumbling, there army is using chips from washing machines, wot happened 🤔
Ukraine 🇺🇦 needs to shut up 🤫 on World War III absurd talk 😊
@johndonald7608
Ай бұрын
What are your military credentials?
@Riffman08-dz6pv
Ай бұрын
@@johndonald7608doesn't take a militant to see that we have been lied to about this war an Ukraine have been used
@johndonald7608
Ай бұрын
@@Riffman08-dz6pv lied to? Please explain.
@Riffman08-dz6pv
Ай бұрын
@@johndonald7608 why are we expected to criminalize Russia for the annexation if Crimea?
@Paul95959
Ай бұрын
Can you please validate your morality by answering, what are your views on womans rights and immigration?
I dont thibk Russia will liberate Britian or any other country in europe. They will liberate eastern Ukraine and leave it at that, we need to take our country back by ourselves.
Another war is inevitable. People forget over time and repeat the same mistakes.
War Profiteers.
Who is talking about rule based order? Rules for everyone but not USA & Israel
SIR what happened to all those money and weapon that they had before?
Why did Nato give a welcome on the mat only for Ukraine and Georgia and not for Russia?
It’s so heartening to see so many foreign policy and military experts in the comments. With such genius on the internet I think we’re going to be juuuust fine 👍 …we’re all gonna die aren’t we 🤦♂️
Can anyone tell me when Putin said he wants the whole of Ukraine? Last I heard, both him and Zelensky had a peace agreement, which Boris Johnson went to Ukraine to tell Zelensky to rip up that peace agreement. Also, when has Putin ever said he wants Poland, or the reformation of the Soviet Union?
Is he allowed to call it a proxy war.....
@captain_context9991
Ай бұрын
It is a proxy war. I dont think anyone is denying that.
Anyone is remembering when so called BRITISH intelligence saying by March 2022 Russia is going to running out of ammunition and missiles? 😂😂😂😂😂
Think George Galloway put it succinctly, describing UK's navy as 'Lilliputian'!
Not a cat in hells chance Russia can be defeated,Putin has not taken the gloves off yet he's still playing mr nice guy.
Every politician kids son and daughter should be sent as infantry men.
Rule based society? What? Where? Gaza? WT FUAQ!
Total codswallop as usual. Very disappointing to see Andrew Marr dropping this low. For all you need to know about the current situation in Ukraine watch interviews with Professor Jeffrey Sachs (Columbia University), Colonel Douglas MacGregor (USA) and Alistair Crooke (ex UK ambassador).
Is Operation Gladio still active?
I’m surprised that more isn’t made of the proxy war situation. I thought that under the old rules of war you weren’t supposed to do it?
words, words, words
Aid or no aid Ukraine is done
International rules based order whilst Israel shreds international law supported by the USA and the UK.
@andilemtshe9063
Ай бұрын
We ware surprised that a country can commit a war crime and then investigate themselves 😂😂😂😂
Sooooo many experts on here 🤦♂️😂 I’ve never seen a place where so many experts on all things gathered together to enlighten all of mankind, but yet no one can seem to bring about peace in this world. So, either your not experts and you know nothing, or your missing the bigger picture! 🤦♂️ Both of those things can be true at the same time!
Russia is fighting Ukraine because they don't want Ukraine to join NATO, that was the main issue of the peace deal scuppered by Boris Johnson. Ukraine joining NATO will increase chances of WWIII, not Russia bringing Ukraine to the peace table.
@Paul95959
Ай бұрын
Russia is attacking or trying to buy any non aligned state near its borders. If you don't sell to them, they send the troops in. That is why Ukraine wanted to join and that is why The nordics all joined. This isn't about protecting Russian borders, this is about having room for Russian borders to expand. Bye bye Syria, bye bye Kazakhstan, bye bye Georgia, Armenia, Mali, Niger...and others. Russian did this in 50's, 60's and 70's and it broke them. Seems they need breaking again.
high spending? What do we get for the moneyin terms of non "show horse" deterence?
If the politicians really believe that we are in danger, they would spend a bucket load of money.
what happened to the "rules based order" in Israel?
@thecfbutcher1174
Ай бұрын
who cares
Peace will continue beyond into 2025
Lol, what a load of bull. Most Americans couldn't locate Ukraine on a map. We're fed up of wars to make the rich richer and the poor go fight.
How?
Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦
well he would say that wouldn't he
Question should be asked where is Russia getting the money to fight.Or is this all a scam
Sadly the more you look at how this came to happen the more you see how the US wanted this. No one wants to talk about how this came to end up with conflict. The money the US has sent as we know is basically going to US manufacturers or has been 'lost'. This kind of war mongering conversation helps no one. The idea that the West has a moral high ground doesn't hold up. I did maths at Oxford and what I learnt is that to solve a problem you have to look at everything -from every angle-in order to see what is happening. The conversation here would not be out of place in the 18th century.
Great interview
We need to have a poll.. What country sends combat troops to Ukraine first? A France B Poland C. Great Britain D Other
@retrohaggis7969
Ай бұрын
Malta
Dum jeg har hørt på lenge, det handler ikke lenger om hva man vil eller ønsker seg men om hva man kan/kapasitet...
You are right hundred percent
Am sorry, we are talking about war , real war , and the British are talking. They can't even muster 3 Division. They can barely fill a stadium. 😂😂😂
Who said Russia wants to go to Juev
@josefkrajcir1059
Ай бұрын
.... its called scare-mongering
@ianlayton6949
Ай бұрын
Putin said it - and wrote it.
@lilacer6841
Ай бұрын
@@ianlayton6949 when did Putin said it? Please share the link
@Riffman08-dz6pv
Ай бұрын
@@ianlayton6949where??
@ianlayton6949
Ай бұрын
@@Riffman08-dz6pv Read the above post.
I said from day one that Ukraine would lose and that thousands of people would lose their lives for nothing. And I've not forgotten about it despite the media going all but silent on it.
Purin does not need Europe- not at all - but he wanted Russian people in Ukraine to stop being persecuted.
"Defending the international rules based order as we understand it"
Billions of dollars for Ukraine, not a cent for Palestinians.
Love is hate, Peace is War
Is there any politician that is not corrupt…
not of be when we have just prolonged the war call for an end to the war.
Not in my name it won't.