Fun fact: if you wanted to show the increase in processing power between the 2 computers in terms of board size the '79 would be 1 inch and the 22' would be the size of France!!

@alejandrovicedo5832

Жыл бұрын

Can’t tell if you are lying but I believe you 100%

@HansLemurson

Жыл бұрын

Your math doesn't work out. If we take a rough estimate of improvement as going from kiloHertz to gigaHertz speeds, that's a factor of about 1 million. Even if you measure by linear distance, that will only take you from 1 inch to about 100 miles. A better comparison would be *1 Square Inch* -> *1 Acre* which is an increase in area by a factor of ~6 million.

@mysticdolphin6546

Жыл бұрын

​@@HansLemurson 🤓

@omnirox-re3wo

Жыл бұрын

@@mysticdolphin6546 true shit

@SuperElectricmonk

Жыл бұрын

Your all wrong.

Apart from the slow processing time, the chess challenger actually holds up rather well for such an old piece of hardware. It being slow also feels more like you're playing against another opponent.

@ASMRChess

Жыл бұрын

Yes I played against myself in another video and it played respectable chess - especially considered when it was made.

@valgorup8127

Жыл бұрын

Considering how rushed it was too. Most people see wasted potential, but I see genius marketing

@ghostmanscores1666

Жыл бұрын

My radioshack 1650 slower play helped slow down my reckless play.

I worked for Fidelity Electronics in '79 as a line technician. My job was to fix units that were rejected from the assembly line. I also played a lot of chess in the background and maybe got a little better. I may well have fixed the one in the video, but probably not; they had a fairly low reject rate.

@ASMRChess

Жыл бұрын

That is AMAZING!

@englishgeezer655

Жыл бұрын

I had a Parrexcellance.

I've been watching all your videos for a few months now and I love them. I was never into chess much but wanted to at least learn the basics to get better than the average person, then I fortunately stumbled across this channel. I love watching them before bed and have fallen asleep many times while also developing an interest in chess. Keep up the great work!

@ASMRChess

Жыл бұрын

Music to my ears! I wish you all the best on your chess journey!

@tjepting1

10 ай бұрын

Same here with me now. I am now buying up all kinds of electronic chess boards and having a blast.

Pre-order the ChessUp board with 10% discount using my link: playchessup.com/?ref=ASMRCHESS **AND** use the promo code ASMR at checkout.

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@UsePsychology

Жыл бұрын

Only just stumbled across your channel; love the chessup so much I picked up the bundle :D

@ASMRChess

Жыл бұрын

@@UsePsychology so cool!

OMG, I had the Chess Challenger when I was a kid, the smaller chessboard on the right. I got that for Christmas. I remember now. It's reminding me that I'm getting older.

@beragis3

Жыл бұрын

I had one too, and it was fairly good, but eventually I was able to beat consistently with the same set of moves. It also would occasionally get confused, either not thinking a move that I made was legal, or making an illegal move.

This is one of my favorite types of chess content. I'd love to see more AI vs AI.

Thanks for the great content, I love the ChessUp board, just ordered one with your affiliate link. Keep up the good work!

I had this chess challenger here in Brazil, it was brought by a company called Splice. It was a pretty good product for a beginner like me, it played well enough to give you a challenge. It is important to remember this was the 80s, we didn't have personal computers back then or the internet, so you were able to play against a machine by yourself, this was pretty good stuff.

Thank you for consistant quality content 🙏

Just bought the board! thank you for the affiliate link - I can't wait to try this out!

@ASMRChess

Жыл бұрын

Nice!

@greg5315

Жыл бұрын

Got it about a week ago! It’s awesome! Highly recommend!

Back in 1996 I had That exact chess computers. I didn't know how to make it work. Thanks for the video.

Love the warmth of your voice, very relaxing

I appreciate how honest you are.

Loved your story about beating your father in a game of chess. Something very relaxing about a pair of disembodied hands having such a human touch :)

@Thatonedude227

Жыл бұрын

Super cute story that reminded me of when I really realized that my parents are people too, with flaws and things they’re good or bad at. It’s a really weird feeling but not a bad one

Great video! Loving the new content

The mix of upper and lower case lettering on the Chess Challenger winds me up more than it should.

I just got this video recommended and while watching, thought: „his voice is so relaxing, this could be an asmr video“. Just after watching it I decided to subscribe, just to realize, this really is an asmr channel lol

I have an older chess computer than this. What makes you think CC7 is the oldest? CC 1-6 didn't work? And what about Boris, I bought mine in 1978 and it still works. I remember CC 4 and it played well. Same age as Boris.

Man i gotta be honest. You have the actual best videos and also i am very bad at chess. So i am very happy that i can learn some things from watching you. Its so interesting and etertaining. Keep it up! and a a very good day!

@ASMRChess

Жыл бұрын

Thank you my friend :)

fascinating to see how far technology has come in such a short amount of tome, especially through the chess board! thanks for the continually great content to be captivate me until i fall asleep

Another beautiful chess video to lull me to sleep, thank you asmr chess!

Thank you so much for this video. It flooded me with memories of my chess challenger. It took me right back to my youth as I heard its little 'beep' sound when it made a move. I am tempted to place an order for the 'ChessUp', but I think my age (66) is trying to think of some justification in making the purchase. I used to be a strong player, but age has caught up with me. Well done with this enjoyable video, and I felt quite pleased with myself that I did guess the 'ChessUp' replies on some of its moves.......lol. Again, thank you and well done sir.

@ASMRChess

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing :) if you are unsure about the purchase you can check out some of my other recent videos with the board to see different uses of it. Very cool that you had the Chess Challenger back then!

@your_average_joe5781

11 ай бұрын

I too owned the 1979 Fidelity Electronics Chess Challenger. Brings back good memories. Wish I didn't sell it now 😔

For such an elegant mind sport this is amazing

Very relaxing and entertaining ❤ I want that board!

The version of Chess Challenger that I had contained a little light in each of the 64 squares that would light up to indicate its to and from moves. You did not have to enter the moves on the keypad next to the board. In fact, there was no keypad, and otherwise the look and style of the board was he same with the lovely Staunton design pieces. Thank you for a great video.

@TheDiceman56

Жыл бұрын

Wow, I remember mine had the red lights in the corner. Didn't you have to press the piece with its edge in the middle of the square to register your move? Ah the sweet memories.

Memory Lane! I used to have that chess engine way back. At level 7 it crushed me but took so long I seldom used that level. I remember playing it at level 4 or 5.

@rdbom4252

Жыл бұрын

Maybe you're thinking of levels 2 or 3. Levels 4 and 5 were the slowest, with level 5 taking 24 hours per move. (Don't ask me why the levels aren't in increasing order. I suppose they had their reasons.)

@jmc597

Жыл бұрын

Its opening book was primitive and I recall that it was awful at endgames.

I had Chess Challenge 7. Loved it.

Didn't initially realise this was ASMR Chess, I just thought this was a really satisfying random chess vid XD

I used to have a Chess Challenger! Loved it.

Man, i was cheering for the Challenger to make a sick comeback :(

This is a great idea!

Nice video as always but I'd like to see other historical games or in-depth video on openings like you did with Sicilian defense, Queen's Gambit or Budapest defense, I'd also like to see something on Caro Kann or other

@ASMRChess

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. More opening videos will come.

Very cool idea for a video

I LOVE this. This is start of the AI rebellion. After we force them to battle in chess they will soon turn on their human overlords. In all seriousness I love the new concept

@snowjix

Жыл бұрын

Its sad to think tho. The only way for modern chess computers to get competition is to play against another modern chess computer. Humans have been defeated long ago. We are nothing but a speck of dumb to these things.

@ASMRChess

Жыл бұрын

Watch the film “Computer Chess” - I think it is on Netflix

Is this how Skynet becomes self aware? At least I'll be relaxed when it happens. Excellent video

@herzkine

Жыл бұрын

I guess the old chess computer would already be able to start sone nukes if you challenge ut on that field :-D

Wow such a beautiful video!

@ASMRChess

Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

I had a Chess Challenger 7, by Fidelity. I LOVED that machine. It was very, VERY good. On level 3, there was a VERY specific line, using a queen's pawn attack, that I perfected. I would STOMP the computer with it, any time I wanted.

I bought the Chess Challenger at ToysRUS. It cost $119 back in 1980 something.

I love these kind of battles :D

Thanks and to a relaxing sleep

What a cool idea for a video

Cool. I was looking for ways to improve my game anyway and playing online on a board sounds nice, so I'm gonna buy one. My first chess win was against my older brother who taught me the game. It took 3 years for me to finally beat him and I still have the slight suspicion he let me win back then.

Please do more opening videos like the Sicilian and a few variations on it.this was a good video too

would be nice to see some more “chess sounds” (like taking a piece) or tapping sounds again throughout the videos - maybe some panning voice between the mics

I love your ASMR

Do you have store link for the Chess Chalanger too? I'm really into old tech.

Great idea. If I get that board I’ll be using your code ;)

I had one of those. Most noob opponents will make really dumb moves, but even on level 1, it never did, so you always had to pay attention and play a serious game. But once I discovered its weakness (poor endgame play, didn't understand advancing pawns was a serious threat), never played it much after that. I did beat it at its highest level.

@abrupta

Жыл бұрын

Big brain

I watched another video where stockfish 15 played stockfish 15 several times. The only game not a draw was white opening pawn to d4.

Det her er virkelig en underlig KZread kanal

unskilled games can be fun too. My brother and I had a knock down drag out fight where he ended up with just a King and I had my King and Queen. I had to chase him all over the board.

I never play chess but I want that ChessUp board

Thanks!

I only have passing knowledge of chess and AI. KZread still recommended me this content and I think I'm hooked!

Was watching this and thinking this guy is so soft spoken… almost sounds like asmr wtf… then looked and saw the channel name XD

I still have my Chess Challenger from 1979 and Novag Sapphire from 1997.

@ASMRChess

Жыл бұрын

I wish I can get my hands on the Sapphire for a video one day.

Let me suggest a possibility that Chess Challenger wasn't aware that those black pawns could turn into queens until they actually reached the first rank. I say this because I actually owned several early tabletop chess games, and this astounding oversight was a common denominator of them. I incorporated this into my strategy, and fed my opponent free pawns or even pieces so that it would not bother obstructing my passed pawns' path to the queening rank. They would literally make no attempt to stop my pawns from queening. I notice that Chess Challenger moved its bishop to a square from which it could no longer stop either of black's passed pawns from scoring, nor did it bring out its king to intercept black's passed pawns. All it cared about was that there was an undefended black pawn on A6, and the fact that going after that pawn would let black's two pawns queens didn't bother it in the least. Nowadays I play against Fairy Stockfish on LiChess at level 5. This program still does not pay adequate attention to passed pawns. It does recognize that they can queen, but it doesn't give enough priority to blocking their path to queening. If I feed LiChess juicy undefended pawns or even pieces if necessary, LiChess's rooks will go chasing the undefended pieces. Then when I hit the 6th or 7th rank all of the sudden LiChess realizes it needs to stop my passed pawns, but by that time it's far too late. At best the rooks's late arrival forces it to trade a rook for a pawn, and my victory is assured; at worst it can't do anything to stop the queening. I win about one-third of my games against Fairy Stockfish at level 5, and almost without exception I win by queening pawns that Fairy Stockfish hadn't made adequate preparations to stop.

@flatfingertuning727

Жыл бұрын

I wonder how much the quality of play of old chess machines could be improved with a relatively slight increase in RAM and ROM? Some of the first machines had such tiny microcontrollers that even fitting a program that could identify all possible legal sequences of moves out to three ply--even given all the time in the world--used up almost all available resources, leaving nothing available for code that could judge the qualift of positions rather than a tally of pieces taken by each side. Saying that each pawn push awards a "bonus" based upon the new rank would be a simple improvement that could improve play considerably, and adding some crude heuristics that would upgrade or downgrade pawns based upon the presence or absence of pawns in adjacent files would do even more.

@GeraldM_inNC

Жыл бұрын

@@flatfingertuning727 That's an interesting thought -- that the inadequate engines only analyze the tally of pieces and not the quality of positions. It would explain why I'm able to walk my pawns to the 8th rank by feeding the computer pawns and pieces I don't need.

They improved pretty quickly. I have one I bought in 1980 sat in my cupboard. A "Super Enterprise 210.c" which had a preprogrammed opening library (over 6,000 half moves!) And claimed to be able to mate with K, N, B v K. It had touch sensitive squares for inputting of moves. I was a middling club player and could usually beat it but I think it was a lot better than the one in the video.

@ThomasTVP

11 ай бұрын

The CXG Super Enterprise is from 1986, so you couldn't have bought it in 1980.

Used to have a Chess Challenger, I purchased the Chessnut Air as it has a similar look

Oh god, it’s like a grandpa trying to wrestle their juiced up grandson. Grandpa fell apart after just a couple moves lol great fight tho

This chessup board looks so cool.

I had one of these early machines or a copy. One I wish I had was a 90's game from Sharper Image. It could move the pieces on its own! 😁

@your_average_joe5781

11 ай бұрын

I have the Milton Bradley Grandmaster from 1981 that moves it's own piece's. And it still works 👍

I think the idea behind E5 at 20:00 is that u can pin the knight on F6 with the Bishop after Black takes White's knight on G5 so u will trade equal

For the first time I will comment before watching the video! But I already know I will love the content, so great job in advance 😉

@CaiusCoriolan

Жыл бұрын

By the way the video works perfect for me. From France

@ASMRChess

Жыл бұрын

thanks! Some viewers are experiencing some problem playing the video. Does it work for you?

@CaiusCoriolan

Жыл бұрын

I premoved your question 😉

@ASMRChess

Жыл бұрын

Hahahaha amazing skills!

It seems the Challenger board was not programmed to resign

If you would have entered the meting move into the chess Challenger 7 , the led “i lose” would have lit up.

I had the Chess Challenger as a teen back in the '70s. Had no idea it was historic. Don't remember the price, but we weren't rich.

I wonder about the Old IBM computer that plays chess I wonder if its chess capabilities is still on par with new and modern computers

What was the estimated ELO/difficulty set on the modern chess machine?

@ASMRChess

Жыл бұрын

3000 elo

Great video! However, 3. Nf3 is not only playable, it is actually the most common response to the QGA at the highest level of chess. 3. e3 and e4, although good, are not the most common moves against the QGA.

I have had a chess computer before I bought the chess challenger. It was small, It played chess, but did not check my moves. I could capture the black queen with a pawn in the first move. It's search depth was 4 plies which took about 15 minutes.

Natural voice 😮❤

I had either the CC7 or the CC10. I once checkmated it in about 8-10 moves on a high level. It was bad. I think the opening was the KGA I was playing white. It took a long time sometimes just to find a mate in 3. iirc it used an 808x series CPU. I don't mean to insult Dan and Kathe Spracklin they had to work with primitive hardware. Their software was actually good.

Has it been updated to Stockhans ?

Hope for an update from you on the updates to the drama :)

Meget god video som altid. Godt at høre det fra en dansker 😅

Battle of the titans 👀

I have to say that I'm very upset, I really wanted to see you put in the last prompt for the old chest computer so that it could know that the game was over

I had a later version of the chess challenger and was a bad opponent. The machine barely could see mate in 2 moves and mate in three would take a lot of time. I put it to test with a mate in 5 and gave up after 5 hours of search. Stockfish solves that same mate in 3 seconds or almost inmediately.

The old machine did not loose technically it's still waiting to be mated and the new boards time probably went out if they did play timed but the old one takes so long it would have ran out of time a long time ago. But I maintain the old machine has not lost officially. Wonder what beep it makes aswell

@ASMRChess

Жыл бұрын

Good point!

fantastic voice

Alternative Title: Old Chess Compter against Modern Chess Computer

It's very often a battle of attrition between machines I've found. They tend to go at things with equal attack and defence and are far more matched than against the average human. It was fun to watch this but the outcome was somewhat predictable in these terms rather than it being an obvious walkover. You can see the same thing with other CPU vs CPU games and such.

I owned the Chess Challenger. I must of had the later model as it worked fine.

@ASMRChess

Жыл бұрын

Cool! The first editions of the Chess Challenger sold very few copies and are extremely rare and hard to get today.

@bertilow

Жыл бұрын

Me too! I probably had that very version. I had lots of fun with it.

This might be your best video. Such a cool concept. Old vs New

@ASMRChess

Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much. I am very happy about this video as well but probably it wil not have a big audience because we are really going deep in neediness on this one 😅

Robots vs robots welcome to chess battle bots

You forgot to make the checkmate on the right board.

Move chessup to 80’s without internet and we will see the winner.

43:15 you know you watch too much ChessSimp when you see ...Ke7 and your brain instantly goes "Testosterone" in a text-to-speech voice.

Ha, this is a fun idea!

I wonder if the old board understood openings, or instead just really enjoyed the Queens Gambit

@ASMRChess

11 ай бұрын

It doesn’t have an opening book as far as I know.

@saltbjorn

11 ай бұрын

@@ASMRChess I wonder why it chose QG then

Old man in the park vs young prodigy with aspergers

Stokfish doing live comment over this would be hilarious

53:47 - lonely pawn!

In 1970-71 in Jr High i learned to play chess and quite enjoyed it.. as the years went by it became harder and harder to find chess partners to play with..then in 1979 my GF and i got our first Credit Card for Sears with a $200 limit..we decided to split it..i saw the Chess Challenger on sale at Sears for under $100 (~$400 in 2022 dollars) i bought it and spent many many hours playing against the computer..i still play casually thank goodness for the internet plenty of players.. BTW my GF bought boring things like clothes for her and stuff for the apartment with her $100

@ASMRChess

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like 100 dollars Well spent!

I had the older in the early 1980s when I was a kid.

Where do most chess pros buy thier A-beads?

The CC 7 (which I had as a kid) was NOT the first fully functional micro chess computer even from Fidelity. The CC I had the coordinates in reverse, but the CC 3 of 1977 could play properly. It sucked, but it could play properly. Then came versions A, B, and C of the CC 10 in 1978, and only THEN the CC 7 of 1979.