Workshop organization and parts storage

Ғылым және технология

A few random thoughts on organizing components and workbench layout.
Video looks a bit soft as I was using an add-on wide-angle lens for some of it.

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  • @bigclivedotcom
    @bigclivedotcom6 жыл бұрын

    My workshops tend to be floor-to-ceiling twin-slot shelving too. I also put the bench on the biggest twin-slot brackets and brace it to the ground at the front if needed with breakfast-bar supports. Mines a huge organised clutter too. But, like you, I can go straight to the thing I need in that clutter.

  • @sykskysyk

    @sykskysyk

    6 жыл бұрын

    Have you done a shop tour video yet? I've picked up some pretty good tips and habits watching shop tours of people I'm subscribed to.

  • @AxelDominatoR

    @AxelDominatoR

    6 жыл бұрын

    Wish I could install some of those as well, but I'm renting this flat and the landlord is not too keen on me changing the wall into a huge slab of swiss cheese... Everything is precariously balanced (which makes it more exciting, I guess)

  • @RambozoClown

    @RambozoClown

    6 жыл бұрын

    Hang sheets of plywood, then perforate them as needed.

  • @AxelDominatoR

    @AxelDominatoR

    6 жыл бұрын

    I would still have to hang those sheet from somewhere and I cannot drill holes into the wall (nothing major, at least). Walls are also very thin/cheap so it would take quite a few big screws to secure everything properly. I'm hoping to be able to move into my own house as soon as possible, so I can have all of the space I need.

  • @AndrewGillard

    @AndrewGillard

    6 жыл бұрын

    I'm lucky that although my tenancy agreement says I shouldn't make holes in the walls, my actual landlady is fine with me doing so as long as I can fix it up before we move out, which is piss-easy with plasterboard. I've filled plenty of plasterboard screw holes before (after having used those metal screw-in plasterboard wall plugs, which leave moderately-sized holes when removed), and even filled/repaired a 6"-diameter hole in a wall after my housemate fell down the stairs and elbowed her way through the wall! (She was fine, thankfully, but I then had a 2-week on-and-off job repairing the wall, as the only person in the house capable of doing such a thing!) As such I have a rack of open bins clipped to a plastic sheet on the wall, several racks of smallish plastic drawers, and a 7-foot-tall, 4-foot-wide bookcase full of random bits including stacks of compartmentalised plastic boxes (there are some lovely, decent-size, good-quality, 24-compartment boxes that Toby Electronics (UK) sell that I've bought 20 or so of, but they were selling them at clearance prices last time I checked, so they may no longer sell them...). My "workshop"/home-office is a piddly little box room (the little room that technically makes this a four-bedroom house, but no one would ever want to have this as a bedroom!), though, so things accumulate on the floor under the drawer units more often than not!

  • @xjet
    @xjet6 жыл бұрын

    So the can of Raid is for debugging software?

  • @KerryWongBlog
    @KerryWongBlog6 жыл бұрын

    Not the prettiest but certainly one of the most practical setups I have seen. Thanks for sharing!

  • @smunaut
    @smunaut6 жыл бұрын

    wrt to farnell labels that just fade off with time (and eventually go completely blank): If you heat them up with a lighter or a heat gun, you can make them legible The part that was exposed previously will not react a second time, but the part that wasn't will darken. And so you end up with a reverse-video label white-on-black. Obviously only works once, but it can be very useful :p

  • @krishna34674
    @krishna346746 жыл бұрын

    I think we ALL need to know what's in your box of "Funky op amps" !!!!!!

  • @electronash

    @electronash

    6 жыл бұрын

    omsonic Maybe they only sound good when playing Nile Rodgers or Stevie Wonder? lol

  • @boonedockjourneyman7979
    @boonedockjourneyman79796 жыл бұрын

    Extremely helpful. Think a minute about how KZread is giving a new generation access to people like you. I grew up in the Berkeley Homebrew Club. That depended on pure luck of getting a job at Lawrence Berkeley. How many people had that luck? Today, you impact kids on a diversion program from jail living in the middle of nowhere near an old retired teacher. Amazing. My students watched this twice and made fun of me the whole time. I appreciate the ESD reality check. I am so sick of ESD cops who have no idea how capacitance effects anything. They just love that EEVBlog blue. Sickening to see young people taught crap. Please teach some more of this simple stuff. I assure you, young people soak it up. The State Prison won’t let them post anything on the internet. What a damn shame.

  • @KaizerPowerElectronicsDk
    @KaizerPowerElectronicsDk6 жыл бұрын

    It is always comforting to see that I am not alone at having a lab like that, storage like that, saving everything, we are all closing in on getting a diagnosed with hoarding syndrome :) Thanks for the walk-through, although a little too detailed and long.

  • @1pcfred

    @1pcfred

    6 жыл бұрын

    I'd rather have what I don't need than need what I don't have.

  • @noisytim
    @noisytim6 жыл бұрын

    That was very nice! I’ll start ordering sticker boxes. Thanks for passing on your experience to us newcomers. It’s extremely appreciated !

  • @iwtommo
    @iwtommo6 жыл бұрын

    This is a gold mine of info for productivity Thanks a ton. The reverse computer case is brilliant

  • @didaloca
    @didaloca6 жыл бұрын

    This is the definition of organised chaos!

  • @bvs1q
    @bvs1q6 жыл бұрын

    'a completely empty spot, il have to find something to put there'

  • @portlyoldman
    @portlyoldman4 жыл бұрын

    One of my favourite KZreadrs that the algorithm has decided to find this older video to show me, left pathologically tidy me shocked and uncomfortable 😲 However I realise why I get so little done as I spend so much time tidying and cleaning up my little multi purpose room!!!

  • @MrDubje
    @MrDubje6 жыл бұрын

    Am I the only one wondering what Mike's house is like? Love the chaotic-but-organised look of everything. Also: I think Mike contradicts himself in this video, I'm sure in one video, he once said that fully populated boards are less susceptible to damage by ESD, which made sense at the time, but this new statement taking the charge and capacitance in relation to other surfaces into account is true as well... :)

  • @mikeselectricstuff

    @mikeselectricstuff

    6 жыл бұрын

    ESD in general is a low risk - populated boards have different risks to individual parts, and the fact that lots of parts are interconnected goes some way to improving protection, but with the exception of unusually delicate unprotected devices, it's pretty difficult to kill a loose part unless maybe it's on a metal surface

  • @AureliusR

    @AureliusR

    6 жыл бұрын

    It was Dave at EEVBlog that said populated boards are less vulnerable. It's what I was taught as well, but Mike's logic also makes sense. I tend to just not give a crap about either or and accept that someday I *might* zap something.

  • @MrDubje

    @MrDubje

    6 жыл бұрын

    @ Dick Fageroni, That would be my guess as well. :)

  • @nodariel
    @nodariel6 жыл бұрын

    Wow I was still at school 20 years ago and just discovered mikeselectricstuff website. It's been awesome following you over the years Mike!

  • @brainfornothing
    @brainfornothing6 жыл бұрын

    -"Thing 1") I ussually use another thinner top, MDF or another cheap (free from trash) panel over my chipboard+melamine top tables, so I can replace quickly, easily and very cheap/for free -"Thing 2") I had years ago the idea of putting the back of the computer in front, but I didn't realize I can reverse the drives too ! Good idea ! -"Thing 3") I use the same "idea-structure" of storage and I put long things in the top, just above the ceiling, but the light path is reduced, the upper sides of the room are darker and lower the light is not the solution, because they will be interfering -"Thing 4") I use also the Staedtler Permanent "F" for "normal things", but they are not the best for draw/repair PCB tracks before the acid, used to be, but not anymore, I think Staedtler changed the formulation, so, I contacted Staedtler a few years ago and they sent me one Staedtler special for optics and nano-something (I just google it : "Lumocolor permanent special 319") that works really well for PCB, but are a expensive -"Thing 5") Hey ! Are those Hi-tec boots like mine ? :D Thanks for the ideas and all your videos, Cheers !

  • @reps
    @reps6 жыл бұрын

    12:34: Any thoughts on PCB dust? I have CNCed a lot of PCBs for a while, but I got a bit scared because no regular vacuum filter seems to be able to contain the super fine glass fiber dust. Wouldn't want to breath something like that ...

  • @Arnthorg

    @Arnthorg

    6 жыл бұрын

    The Signal Path even went as far as to make a pcb fixture that allowed him to submerge the pcb's to be milled in oil

  • @andr27

    @andr27

    6 жыл бұрын

    oh, marco here :) I like your channel

  • @sisco6943

    @sisco6943

    6 жыл бұрын

    Hey Marco, you could try something similar to what Chris has done in the video linked below. It seems to be common practice to sprinkle some water on the spindle/part when milling carbon fiber to keep the fine dust from being circulated in the air. You could try that with water or some other coolant. Although I don't know if the water/other coolants would negatively affect the pcb though. kzread.info/dash/bejne/iHiexq-QZMLLgsY.html

  • @mikeselectricstuff

    @mikeselectricstuff

    6 жыл бұрын

    I don't think drilling and milling with chip-breaker cutters produces particularly fine dust - a lot of what you are cutting is the resin, and I'd imagine the glass tends to stay bound to it rather than becoming loose fibres. Only issue I've had is occasional slight itchiness - never noticed anything obviously airborne.

  • @alexkindl861

    @alexkindl861

    6 жыл бұрын

    How's the airflow through the general workshop area? If a capacitor pops, or wire housing burns, how long does it stay funky? Any special provisions, or naturally well ventilated?

  • @ollieb9875
    @ollieb98756 жыл бұрын

    Fascinating. Thank you for making this video.

  • @rpriesol
    @rpriesol4 жыл бұрын

    When I look now around to the mess that I have in my office/workshop, based on Mike's standard everything is so clean and well organized :)

  • @joshuaharlow4241
    @joshuaharlow42416 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for putting this video together. The timing for me could not be better. I -just- so happened to be in the midst moving my electronics lab between rooms. I am setting up in a rather small space. I have just set up an industrialish type shelf, (~4'x2') with the bottom shelf at desk height and another "shelf" 5 inches above that to become my work surface. The remaining shelves are above head height. Mounted an LED light to the bottom of the shelf above. Another idea I have is to mount some light weight bins and/or test leads to the inside of a closet door. I will have my test equipment on a nearby shelf unit that has casters, I hope this will allow me to roll the shelf out to cable equipment up as needed. Because my computer will be at a separate desk across the room, I will extend the video signal over to the bench and have a small monitor setup for viewing schematics, data sheets etc.

  • @MaxKoschuh
    @MaxKoschuh6 жыл бұрын

    12:10 You have to be kidding me. A pick & place machine! Your shop is amazing! I wished mine could be nearly as professional. There are many great things to replicate, like the U-shaped desk layout. I hope you get well paid by your customers, VERY well paid.

  • @AureliusR
    @AureliusR6 жыл бұрын

    "SM CM Filters & Ferrets" LOL I love it

  • @philpem

    @philpem

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ferrite ferrets, clears up noise and finds lost rabbits!

  • @csmaster65
    @csmaster656 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the grand tour of the workshop of the most interesting electric stuff channel

  • @trickyrat483
    @trickyrat4836 жыл бұрын

    Great vid., as usual, Mike. Thanks for posting.

  • @tHaH4x0r
    @tHaH4x0r6 жыл бұрын

    A long awaited video, ordered chaos like an engineering workshop should be.

  • @fuzzy1dk

    @fuzzy1dk

    6 жыл бұрын

    you can see that it is a place where things get done

  • @murrayedington
    @murrayedington4 жыл бұрын

    Note that "breakfast bar" worktop is 90cm deep. Widely available now at the usual outlets (B&Q etc) and used for those required island units.

  • @MartenElectric
    @MartenElectric4 жыл бұрын

    WOW, very nice Mike, Your video got me motivated to sort my own lab. I like particularly your back to front PC arrangement and priority use system. Thanks

  • @mumiemonstret
    @mumiemonstret2 жыл бұрын

    Be careful when you open the ferret box! (37:06)

  • @movax20h
    @movax20h5 жыл бұрын

    Awesome lab. I am also a fan of this shelving system, and have entire continues wall just filled with shelves (2.5m high, 4m wide, with 7 U profiles attaches to a wall, with a lot of screws so it can support probably a ton of stuff together). Most of my shelves are 30cm deep, but few of them are 40cm and 60cm, i.e. for very deep test and measurement equipement. And at the lowest level 20cm, so there is a bit space for stuff on ground and legs. Plus boxes on ground. It all is stable and reconfigurable easily. Great stuff. I also use a lot of Orthex SmartStore Classic boxes (around 200 boxes total), as they are easy to stack and are transparent, and locking lids, so it is easy to move around, put on shelves or stack on floor. And a lot of LED strips on the bottom side of shelves, with individual RC controlled switches, so I can set it up the way I like. I agree that it is really hard to get anything deeper than 60cm for a desk top. I usually take two 60cm deep (standard) stuff, and extend it to 80cm by cutting second top into 3x20cm sections, and using the other 20cm sections as shelves above the desk (mostly for books). Troley on wheels in the corner is very smart move! I need to do that in my lab too.

  • @weirdscix
    @weirdscix6 жыл бұрын

    Oh that is my aim to have a workshop like that, I could spend all day playing with things

  • @kght222
    @kght2226 жыл бұрын

    6:38 you can fill that in with ca glue and produce an epoxy finish on that counter top and bring it back to "good as new" while having allot more character. keep in mind though that "good as new" in this case still means a big chunk of particle board with a plastic coating. honestly for electronics i can't think of a good surface that wouldn't ultimately be sacrificial, the surfaces that wouldn't be damaged by electrical work would damage the things you are trying to work on (granite, marble, in general stone surfaces) so i think i can only say you should probably look at woodworking workbenches. easy to damage but easy to fix. you can't use welding benches for electronics, they are conductive and even designed to be as conductive as possible. the best electronics benches i have seen are eevblog's. just some basic tables with a conductive mat on the surface that can be tied into wrist straps. i'd put discharge panels in so you don't need to hook up to discharge yourself, but that is about as good as it gets for an electronics bench at home.

  • @SomeMorganSomewhere
    @SomeMorganSomewhere6 жыл бұрын

    On "A place for everything and everything in its place" agreed 100%, my version of that is "I like to have a place for everything and everything in its place, the problem is I don't have enough places for things so my workareas look like bomb sites"

  • @themexicannon
    @themexicannon6 жыл бұрын

    Mike you're always the voice of experience. The Great Farnellius and his amazing disappearing label text scuppered me only last week :-(

  • @tomboxyz5564
    @tomboxyz55644 жыл бұрын

    I definitely recommend asking people who make custom kitchens if they have any "scrap" table tops, they often have ~2m pieces of discontinued table tops, they won't use it for a kitchen, since it's kinda short for that, but you might be able to buy it cut to the length you want for the shop, I built my PC desk out of that, it's 1.8m long (60cm deep) and it's a really nice Austrian table top, for which I paid half the price of a cheap table to, including cable passthroughs and putting trim on the ends

  • @thomasw6169
    @thomasw61692 жыл бұрын

    Love the funky OpAmps 👍

  • @kurtfrancis4621
    @kurtfrancis4621 Жыл бұрын

    My kind of organization.

  • @romyaz1713
    @romyaz17135 жыл бұрын

    funky opamps - a good name for a band

  • @stuartthegrant
    @stuartthegrant6 жыл бұрын

    The reverse case PC is a very good idea, wish I thought of that.

  • @aumike66

    @aumike66

    6 жыл бұрын

    I feel you, man. All those years of saying "fuck" from under the table, crumbled in most inconvenient ways ... it is funny to think how the floppy (and then cd/dvd) went and the front side of the computer was there only as an opposite to the back one. To our defense, a lay person will probably instinctively put the connector side facing the wall because of the cable management. And obviously, Mike is very accustomed to installations, where a computer is just yet another tool, and a proper cable management is in place with or without it. Those red and green plastic diffusers are nice though

  • @Mentorcase
    @Mentorcase6 жыл бұрын

    Organized chaos, I love it!

  • @benbaselet2026

    @benbaselet2026

    6 жыл бұрын

    People who call this chaos or disorganization have never done actual work I think :-)

  • @jwrm22
    @jwrm226 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for showing us around. The explanation about ESD is interesting. From the literature I've come to the conclusion the opposite was true, components are easier destroyed by ESD than mounted on a PCB. As for single prototypes, I've never run in to ESD problems. As for production it's standard practice to ESD bag all the things.

  • @1pcfred

    @1pcfred

    6 жыл бұрын

    I think he could have simply stated that he lived in a bog, and left it there.

  • @chrischeltenham
    @chrischeltenham6 жыл бұрын

    I really enjoyed watching this :) I to have the issue where I want to use kitchen work top but 600mm isn't deep enough for what I want but then buying wider is silly priced. I loved the old projects you have set up so you can turn them on and show them off. Great vid :)

  • @berni8k
    @berni8k6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the "Clear peel box" trip. This is just what i need to organize my lab, but things can be hard to find on ebay without the magic search term

  • @paulrautenbach

    @paulrautenbach

    6 жыл бұрын

    I think these may be the ones Mike uses: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-PEEL-OFF-CLEAR-PLASTIC-CRAFT-BOX-STORAGE-BOXES-IN-SINGLE-5s-OR-10s-/112692541009?var=&hash=item1a3cffb651 bit there are others cheaper: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Peel-Off-Box-Clear-Plastic-x10-Storage-Craft-Container/253357211775?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908110712%26meid%3D12e50484f10241079d7a5d53b2aba23a%26pid%3D100677%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D11%26sd%3D201471060588&_trksid=p2385738.c100677.m4598

  • @mikehibbett3301
    @mikehibbett33014 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing! I have just taken your advice on the small plastic storage boxes, I'm looking forward to improving on my IKEA storage solution!

  • @Darieee
    @Darieee6 жыл бұрын

    Amazing .. really enjoyed this one

  • @jameshauser1507
    @jameshauser15076 жыл бұрын

    I like your shop Mike.

  • @jims408
    @jims4086 жыл бұрын

    Some great ideas; thanks much for sharing!

  • @zuccasnow
    @zuccasnow6 жыл бұрын

    That ESD discussion @30min was alone worth to watch the 30min before

  • @goatarse
    @goatarse6 жыл бұрын

    Great video Mike. a 4k 30" monitor will change your life (layout, schematics and datasheets)

  • @RambozoClown

    @RambozoClown

    6 жыл бұрын

    4k 40" is the hot tip for me. Makes four nice sized 1080 windows or like you say blow up larger items across the whole thing.

  • @goatarse

    @goatarse

    6 жыл бұрын

    4k 40" defeats the purpose I believe, especially in a cramped workspace.

  • @davidgreaves9787
    @davidgreaves97876 жыл бұрын

    I also have a box of old PCBs that really need to go as I had exactly the same idea 10 years ago and the only parts I re-used were from old power supplies like odd ball through hour parts etc..having heard your comments I have decided to throw most of these out in to a recycling skip when I sort the garage.

  • @arcadeuk
    @arcadeuk6 жыл бұрын

    The problem with kitchen worktop, is that the cheapest worktop 20 years ago, was 10 times better than the cheapest worktop is now, and also the cheapest worktop is not cheap anymore.

  • @turboslag

    @turboslag

    6 жыл бұрын

    arcadeuk depends where you buy it from;)

  • @aumike66

    @aumike66

    6 жыл бұрын

    Still, kitchen worktop is probably the only proper working surface in mass production, so ... an alternative to a kitchen sink might be a door. they are usually much wider (and longer) too. and people are somehow averted to having generic doors in their new apartments, so these are thrown away en masse. DIY might be another cheap alternative.

  • @turboslag

    @turboslag

    6 жыл бұрын

    Another option is two sheets of 19 or 20mm stirling board glued together for the thickness, and that way extra depth can be obtained. Then cover that with either laminate or rubber sheet.

  • @kevvywevvywoo

    @kevvywevvywoo

    6 жыл бұрын

    I got mine by asking the store manager if there were any pieces with small chips in that he couldn't sell on the shop floor.

  • @daic7274
    @daic72743 жыл бұрын

    Fishing tackle boxes are handy, many various sizes, long ones for float storage, many smaller compartments for shot weights, variety sizes with and without dense foam inserts for fly/spinner storage etc. Many have decent clip closures.

  • @ChipGuy
    @ChipGuy6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the tour. Funny that my lab space is very similar in terms of workbench and testgear arrangement. I also use a kitchen surface with self made supports, but I went throught the 3 months wait to have the 90cm deep surface made to order which did end up costing 210 EUR. Also got the same shelving with the same, colorful boxes, even the same size. I have not plastered the walls with sockets like you have, which in my case was a mistake since I waste space at the back of the workbench with multiple outlet power strips.

  • @philpem

    @philpem

    6 жыл бұрын

    I'm using a kitchen worktop too, an off the shelf B&Q one. My latest improvement (today!) power-strip wise was to mount an IEC "kettle-lead" (C13/C14) outlet strip under the worktop. All the testgear hooks up through that, and then into one socket on the wall. Instruments get turned on/off via their front-panel on/off switches. The next task is to move the power strip for the soldering equipment onto the underside of the bench too - via an isolator switch and socket for safety reasons.

  • @imajeenyus42
    @imajeenyus426 жыл бұрын

    The "peel off storage boxes" you're using are likely made by Weston Boxes - www.westonboxes.com/collections/craft-storage-boxes/products/peel-off-storage-box. I use them a heck of a lot for storage boxes. My favorites for small things are their business card boxes, combined with either A4 or A5 boxes. You get 8 or 16 business card boxes on edge nicely in the larger boxes, makes it very convenient.

  • @AureliusR

    @AureliusR

    6 жыл бұрын

    I doubt they're made by Weston Boxes -- at least not for less than a pound each! They're likely made in China or Taiwan somewhere...

  • @philpem
    @philpem6 жыл бұрын

    Nice video - and thanks for the ebay search terms for component storage boxes! The workboxes with the locking lids - if those are what I think they are (Raaco assorter boxes), then you can write on them. You want a Uni "Prockey" marker (Paperchase stock these), or a Uni or Edding solvent-based paint marker. But with that said - the P-Touch style labels do tend to last longer, especially if you use the Strong Adhesive tapes. Farnell labels - a major bugbear of mine. The old dot-matrix printed labels were great (if a little hard to read), but the thermal ones are utter junk. RS seem to use thermal-transfer. I usually copy the stock number onto the main bag with a marker pen... though I''ve toyed with the idea of using a Brother QL570 label printer or the Thinkjet clone (found for £1 in a camera shop, of all places) to reprint more hard-wearing labels. Paper/plastic component tapes - the 6mm P-touch labels are good for marking these up, but best to do a batch of them with the PC software to save label tape. I keep toying with the idea of making a paper-tape counter/labeller using a Thinkjet cartridge and a stepper motor. Obviously no good for the plastic tapes, but might be handy for resistors and capacitors (which invariably come on paper tape). Storage boxes - the Maplin SF05F boxes are probably 70% of my storage, with Raaco A45 and A46 Assorters taking up the rest. I've also got a few of the 4-litre "Really Useful" boxes (with a pair of "hobby tray" inserts) which are good for larger modules and sheets of antistatic foam loaded with ICs. The trading-card bags are better for components which ship on bandoleers - power diodes, thru-hole resistors and so on. But even those I only end up using for prototyping. Everything production is SMD - I still make my own PCBs, so reducing the number of holes which need drilling is a definite bonus! I guess we all find solutions as we need them, hence the sort-of "organic" layouts and assortments of different boxes. ${dayjob} only achieved consistency by throwing an absolute ton of components and boxes out, then buying all new. It works, but I wonder how long it'll last!

  • @robertfenney
    @robertfenney6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Mike! That all make real good sense...

  • @smling11
    @smling116 жыл бұрын

    For the baseball card sheet, I use by with anti-static small bag that fit nicely and that adds some fiction for retention.

  • @eliotmansfield
    @eliotmansfield6 жыл бұрын

    Re worktop; Look at breakfast bar worktop - it’s 900mm deep. Also oak breakfast bar stuff is 900 without the rounded edge.

  • @tomlomax9909
    @tomlomax99096 жыл бұрын

    Really good inspiration, thanks

  • @trollobite1629
    @trollobite16294 жыл бұрын

    I built my worktops using decking boards, that way, you get to control the width furthermore, the small groves are great for stopping stuff rolling off the top or for catching small screws or whatever it is that you drop.

  • @felixcat4346
    @felixcat43466 жыл бұрын

    Nice workshop. I like to take stuff off of old circuit boards. I choose components that lookstrange and interesting, not just capacitors. Then I try to figure what they do and how they differ from things on Ebay. I keep my components in large coffee cans on the floor marked on top with a general catigory lable.

  • @1pcfred

    @1pcfred

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yeah it is hard to get parts today like some of the good vintage stuff. It is all counterfeit now.

  • @cymonalex
    @cymonalex6 жыл бұрын

    Mike, Does your EL clock still work? That Nixie you built for me is now 22 years old and works perfectly

  • @mikeselectricstuff

    @mikeselectricstuff

    6 жыл бұрын

    Just about - a lot of variation in segment brightness now. Overdue for replacement.

  • @jam99
    @jam996 жыл бұрын

    Some great ideas, thank you, Mike. How often do you use your pick 'n place machine?

  • @BigA1
    @BigA13 жыл бұрын

    Find myself wanting to questions like: What PCB layout SW do you use? Where do you get your PCBs Made? Do you use fume extraction equipment? Could go on, but I'll stop now. So thanks for sharing with us you insights into how you use your workshop.

  • @GeorgeChristofi
    @GeorgeChristofi6 жыл бұрын

    I tend to use a lot more through hole resistors these days. The trouble is storage. If you use the grey rack system for individual values they are too big. I got some long boxes from Konrad with multiple long compartments for things like resistors and diodes. I haven't the same space but it is as crowded! Wilkos 24 compartment boxes are great too!.

  • @djpaulieshark
    @djpaulieshark6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing. Very handy

  • @NivagSwerdna
    @NivagSwerdna6 жыл бұрын

    Very good video. Couldn't agree more with unlabelled parts are useless sentiment. I'm trying to arrange my stuff in bins each that has a stated generic purpose and when I have time going through a single bin and listing the contents in a spreadsheet. I decided that cataloguing the lot in one go was just never going to happen.

  • @dogastus
    @dogastus2 жыл бұрын

    My favourite part: "Funky Op Amps"

  • @firstmkb
    @firstmkb2 жыл бұрын

    I read lots of negative comments about your organization, but you seem very productive with it. It seems well suited to hardware development and your kind of research. Your comment about organizing for development versus production made a lot of sense to me, but I never thought of it that way before. I also started putting “on hold” projects in boxes to keep them easy to restart. I liked your yellow compartment boxes, and will look for similar because movable dividers don’t stay put well. I’m also looking for the long clear boxes, and will pick up some of those. I must have over a hundred cheap clear plastic boxes with white lids over the years for trying to organize my stuff from various hobbies, home repairs, etc. I only found out a year ago they are intended for shoe storage. Those and a label maker have made a huge difference to me. At 21:57 was that a ginormous (25+mm?) green LED on the right side of the “More LEDs” box?

  • @SomeMorganSomewhere

    @SomeMorganSomewhere

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, so long as it works *shrug*

  • @DominicBush
    @DominicBush6 жыл бұрын

    Great tip regarding the plastic boxes. Just wondering about the lid retention problem, would screwing through side of the top and bottom work for non-frequently accessed stuff? Perhaps drill the hole and add a brass threaded insert but depending on the thickness of the plastic it might need a wooden block gluing on the inside for the insert to grip into.

  • @samuelchamberlain2584
    @samuelchamberlain25846 жыл бұрын

    Something I have found useful is switched power strip the type with one master switch that means you can be confordent that all soldering irons etc are off .

  • @DEADB33F
    @DEADB33F6 жыл бұрын

    Any love for clear plastic takeaway containers? I buy them by the 100 from the local cash & carry. They do various sizes which all have the same footprint but have varying heights. Work great as part bins, and I also use them for storing bolts, washers, nuts, etc. for my main mechanics workshop. ...And another lot with woodscrews of every size in my wood-shop.

  • @mikeselectricstuff

    @mikeselectricstuff

    6 жыл бұрын

    You don't have the slide-out-ability from a stack though, and the ones I've seen are a bit deep and not as long

  • @krishna34674

    @krishna34674

    6 жыл бұрын

    they just break too fast and they're kinda annoying imo

  • @benbaselet2026
    @benbaselet20266 жыл бұрын

    I tend to have horizontal bars where I hang loops of solder, cable or tape etc. donut shaped things. Keeps them put so I don't displace them :)

  • @SomeMorganSomewhere
    @SomeMorganSomewhere2 жыл бұрын

    The foam and foil thing for "anti-static" I think might have started with some of the electronics kit suppliers, I remember a lot of ICs in kits coming in foil-coated foam.

  • @NI_TR_O
    @NI_TR_O6 жыл бұрын

    Mike ive found if you want thick desks get solid wood fire doors, they normally have a nice finish and are can be cut up depending on the depth you want.

  • @sparkyprojects
    @sparkyprojects6 жыл бұрын

    For wider kitchen worktops, try 'island' worktops, just over 3 foot wide, personally i would cut off the round edge, then glue a wood strip on the front, if there's a possibility of spilled coffee, the edge strip can be stuck in place with a bit of silicone to seal it. If using a circular saw to cut it, cut with top down to avoid split out of the surface. :

  • @philpem

    @philpem

    6 жыл бұрын

    Only problem with the stick-on edging strip is that the glue tends to fail over time, to the point where catching it with a tool will peel the whole thing. I'd sooner put up with the rounded edge because the coating on the melamine worktop is a hell of a lot tougher.

  • @sparkyprojects

    @sparkyprojects

    6 жыл бұрын

    Not edging strip, but an actual piece of wood, it's a good idea as it becomes a wear strip too.

  • @1pcfred
    @1pcfred6 жыл бұрын

    Now that's a mad scientist's laboratory! They're not so much of a thing today but if you can get your hands on some old jewel CD cases you can pop the disc liner out of those cut off the disk part, and hot glue the edge back in. Then line the empty box with some foam and they hold parts really good. I wrote an article about how to do it here www.instructables.com/id/Jewel-Case-Parts-Storage-Box/

  • @oswaldjh
    @oswaldjh6 жыл бұрын

    I don't think that can of Raid is an effective software debugging tool. Just saying.

  • @mikeselectricstuff

    @mikeselectricstuff

    6 жыл бұрын

    No it's just for de-bug-ing

  • @martinbzm
    @martinbzm2 ай бұрын

    Your workspace is the proof of the saying "Nature abhors empty space" 😅

  • @station240
    @station2406 жыл бұрын

    The triple ended USB cable is the SparkFun Cerberus USB Cable www.sparkfun.com/products/12016

  • @SzymekCRX
    @SzymekCRX6 жыл бұрын

    PVC pipe for screwdrivers - good idea! thanks!

  • @Brian_Of_Melbourne

    @Brian_Of_Melbourne

    6 жыл бұрын

    Also usable for similar purposes are shampoo bottles, with the top cut off.

  • @simtubes
    @simtubes6 жыл бұрын

    Hmm, "clear peel box" appears to work only on ebay.co.uk. Those do look like a decent solution, though.

  • @afroninjadeluxe
    @afroninjadeluxe6 жыл бұрын

    There are 1206 SMD resistor "sample pack" on AliExpress with 4000 or 8000 resistors in a binder. The strips are not long enough for a feeder but it might be useful for development to quickly find the resistor value thats needed. Edit: oh, it gets covered 25:00

  • @berni8k

    @berni8k

    6 жыл бұрын

    Well these books are for the weird values. I have a reel of the common parts like 10E 100E 1K 10K 1nF 100nF 1uF etc where i can grab as many as i want. But when you need that one single 91K resistor for that regulator voltage feedback or whatever the books are a lifesaver.

  • @movax20h
    @movax20h5 жыл бұрын

    I noticed you have quiet a bit of dust in the workshop, especially on lids and items on the ground. I was wondering how do you clean stuff up. I was thinking to invest in an air filter, and humidity control, both for making environment less prone to dust, and to ESD, but I have no idea how these air filters are effective at all in actually reducing dust.

  • @Zadster
    @Zadster6 жыл бұрын

    Its always reassuring to see another engineer's workshop. Software development it is most definitely not! I still have loads of those grey drawers. Not many of mine have the handle left on either. Old-school 35mm photographic slide drawers might have been useful for keeping random semiconductor strips. Difficult to source now though. Which reminds me, you can get A4 sized 35mm film negative storage pages that might be useful for wider strips. Hama do pages for different sized medium format negatives and contact prints too.

  • @mikeselectricstuff

    @mikeselectricstuff

    6 жыл бұрын

    Film binders ar a bit wide & loose

  • @robstorms
    @robstorms6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Mike !!

  • @magnehaneberg8605
    @magnehaneberg86056 жыл бұрын

    Perhaps obvious to some, but specifically what do you use the frequency counter for in your work? Do you often need precise frequency and/or time interval measurements?

  • @mikeselectricstuff

    @mikeselectricstuff

    6 жыл бұрын

    Not very often - only bought that one as it was going cheap and my previous one was rubbish.

  • @landspide
    @landspide6 жыл бұрын

    Funky opamps, ancient io, antique cpus... hehehe

  • @mahill2006
    @mahill20064 жыл бұрын

    Digging the shutter shades @ 9:27

  • @johnpossum556
    @johnpossum5566 жыл бұрын

    About the vise, simply mount some material on the last 3 inches so it grips beyond the countertop anti-spill hump. Around here you google "Cow mat" and you can get very thick rubber that is super super heavy duty. Makes for a good floor on concrete, too. As far as countertop material in the USA you can get butcher block maple tops in the same sizes as countertops. Extremely durable in the long run because you can keep oiling them and sanding them down. Don't know if you have that in England. I know when Stanley was there they favored the english beech wood.

  • @philpem

    @philpem

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the idea of sticking a piece of rubber sheet between the vice and the bench. I've got a scrap of EPDM rubber shoved under the desk looking for a use, and I think I might have just found it!

  • @andljoy
    @andljoy6 жыл бұрын

    Them boxes are handy will get some of them.

  • @AxelDominatoR
    @AxelDominatoR6 жыл бұрын

    Do you have any issue with your modified computer case and airflow/dust? I hacked together several custom cases for my computers and in my lab I either have to clean them often or add dust filters whenever possible. Also sometimes that causes issues with operating temperature (for high performance computers that require lots of cooling). Lots of great ideas, thanks for sharing!

  • @1pcfred

    @1pcfred

    6 жыл бұрын

    I have computers in my workshop. They get packed with dust. So a couple times a year I have to clean them out. One of the tricks is to hold the fan blades with a pencil while I'm blowing them out, so I don't wipe the bearings in the fans. Air dusting is a bit of an art to not do more harm than good.

  • @RoadRunnerMeep
    @RoadRunnerMeep4 жыл бұрын

    Great little setup :_)

  • @undersiege3402
    @undersiege34025 жыл бұрын

    helps to have one of thos opensource lcr meters to identify unknown parts

  • @csbluechip
    @csbluechip2 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Can you share the make+model of the gooseneck lamps and 13m05s please.

  • @mikeselectricstuff

    @mikeselectricstuff

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ikea Glanso

  • @guatagel2454
    @guatagel24545 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @andrewschannel3635
    @andrewschannel36356 жыл бұрын

    You might like to look into systainers/sortainers for some of the tools. Those open tubes of screwdrivers and testers across the desk must collect a lot of dust and be time consuming to clean?

  • @mikeselectricstuff

    @mikeselectricstuff

    6 жыл бұрын

    Clean? Why would I need to do that...:-)

  • @404Anymouse
    @404Anymouse6 жыл бұрын

    Few thoughts on smt binder sheets: The ones you can get from china all seem to be just A5 for some reason. I always thought they (the A4 ones you can get in europe) are little too expensive, I also think there isn't anyone who would sell plain sheets without components. It's possible to make them yourself, what I have tried was just go along a line with soldering iron, the problem there is that you need to make sort of intermitent movement, otherwise you end up just cutting the sheet (if you look at the professional ones, the melted lines are dotted). Ideas for making them that I had but didn't try: -Make a comb-like jig that you heat up and touch the foil to make the line at once -Use a laser engraver -fix a soldering iron to a cnc router You can even make double-sided compartments if you put a single layer of the foil inside the sheet. To ease putting in the components, cut one layer (both outer layers if you make double-sided) shorter few milimetres before melting in the lines.

  • @mikeselectricstuff

    @mikeselectricstuff

    6 жыл бұрын

    The Farnell ones are the only A4's I've found, the web page is slightly misleading as it mentions resistors. A5s are a bit too small - you need something that will take 100 parts as 2 strips as that's a common MOQ. EEVBLOG made some A4 ones, but with horizontal orientation, which again looks like it ends up a bit short - listed in his store but often out of stock.

  • @stefantrethan

    @stefantrethan

    6 жыл бұрын

    Maybe a cogged wheel fitted to a large soldering iron like a pizza cutter? I'm sure you could get the heat to transfer into the wheel if you mount it in a solid copper yoke.

  • @AndrewGillard

    @AndrewGillard

    6 жыл бұрын

    What you likely want for sealing strips in plastic sheets like that is a device called an "impulse sealer" (at least that's how you find them on AliExpress & eBay). Big Clive's torn-down one before, but it's essentially a heating element strip connected to a variable timer that, when tweaked just right, melts plastic sleeves/bags together. Those are also how you seal up anti-static or polythene(?) bags semi-permanently. Not sure how fiddly it'd be to use one to seal just _parts_ of a page, though - maybe aluminium tape in the areas that you don't want sealed, to reflect the heat away? I've not tried it (and my impulse sealer is much too small a device for this kind of work).

  • @Mugenmasterman
    @Mugenmasterman6 жыл бұрын

    The stereo is a must! What do you jam out to while working? Just Curious. Thanks for another great video!

  • @AureliusR

    @AureliusR

    6 жыл бұрын

    Apparently Jill Sobule XDDDD

  • @Mugenmasterman

    @Mugenmasterman

    6 жыл бұрын

    I still can't get over the Enterprise floating around on the scope screen. 1701-d?

  • @mikeselectricstuff

    @mikeselectricstuff

    6 жыл бұрын

    It's an easter egg in the Keysight MSOX

  • @ChongMcBong
    @ChongMcBong6 жыл бұрын

    thanks mike, very interesting :)

  • @iitool
    @iitool6 жыл бұрын

    Love the enterprise screensaver on the scope screen!

  • @Petertronic

    @Petertronic

    6 жыл бұрын

    It is actually a hidden easter egg in the scope :)

  • @SeanBZA
    @SeanBZA6 жыл бұрын

    Quick way to spruce up that white melamine is to grab some scouring powder and scrub it with some in water. Gets the dirt off and strips the top oxidised melamine layer off, leaving a surface that looks like new, and also fills the lighter scratches.