Sorry for the lack of uploads lately I have been pretty busy but we got some bangers coming!

@Mr2perc

2 ай бұрын

Asuh dudes

@aaronwharton8772

2 ай бұрын

welcome back brother, also where do we go for content suggestions to Grayzone?

modern videogames are honestly a miracle. There is so much complexity in software products, and game engines alone are so complex, not to mention games being built on top of those engines. When you think about how many lines of code are necessary to make even something simple like an FPS player controller work, it's astounding.

@camraid9

2 ай бұрын

Star Citizen is my fav in this. Fun to follow the tech.

I am sooooo here for this kinda content. There's nobody I'd rather have to explain the inner workings of the industry to me other than you.

So your saying we're friends....?

@PUR3xNinjaz

2 ай бұрын

FUELIUM HUFFING FUEL ????????????? MARINES OOOAHHHHH

Best example on how to communicate with your community: Path Of Exile, they have live update feed on bug fixes (during league launch period), what they are working on and before launch they reveal stuff in advance. All first class communication in my opinion.

@blarpnarp

2 ай бұрын

the dev for h3vr is incredibly good at communicating with the players, even going as far as checking in with modders to see what a new update might break

Speaking of how game developers interact with the community. Do you remember when Patrick Soderlund said *_"Dont like it, dont buy it"_* when trying to market one of their up and coming BF games? Pepperidge farm remembers. Im not a game developer. Just your average game enjoyer. But I do like a developer that listens to the community and gives them what they want and not what the people wearing the suits in the boardroom think that we want. Saints row reboot.... Dev team butting heads with the community/fans of the franchise and that game flopped bad....

@cinchmccoy

2 ай бұрын

AND YET that game became the biggest seller ever lol more game developers need to stick to their vision and instead of listening to fools who have no idea what they are talking about - this video is proof - devil admits that he had no idea and most of us dont either

@Rose.Of.Hizaki

2 ай бұрын

@@cinchmccoy Which game?

@l.3626

2 ай бұрын

U think don't like it don't buy is bad? I think thats the gold standard if free choice

@ODSTGeneralYT

2 ай бұрын

@@l.3626 When a developer is facing large amounts of backlash/concern over a title and that is their response. It doesn't exactly paint a picture of confidence. It comes off as defensive and angry. People who have played games like the battlefield franchise for years on end and enjoyed them, want more stuff they can enjoy, they want a good game, and they want the developer to succeed. So when you are those people and you air your concerns about the title and say hey this isn't really the direction we want to go or we have concerns, only for those comments to be completely dismissed out of hand isn't great. And yes you show the developer you dislike a product or their actions by not supporting them financially. But in an idea situation it never need come to that point. Certainly I wouldn't call it the gold standard or first action a developer should take.

@ODSTGeneralYT

2 ай бұрын

@@cinchmccoy I know your not talking about Battlefield 5 being a biggest seller ever. "EA’s Head Blames Marketing, Development Delay For Low ‘Battlefield 5’ Sales" And let's see how Volition is doing after Saint's Row Reboot.... Oh right they don't exist anymore.

Good for you, DDG. Can't think of a more experienced person for the job. The devs have made a great decision hiring you.

Been following you for what feels like nearly 13 years I think but I love the content and the direction you’re going man, keep it up.

Perspective is key to life. Glad you're allowing your perspective to change with knowledge. ❤

Happy to get an update on what you are up to nowadays. Been a subscriber since your Arma 2 milsim days. I agree with you, when you finally get into the shoes on how stuff works, its like a revelation.

Going into game development made me only see the issues in modern day game development to the point where I said fuck that shit and went into data center work instead. The only development studios that actually make interesting shit anymore is smaller developers because they actually care, unlike large companies and their devs.

Been doing QA work for 2+ years now, and gotta say, that too definitely helped me to understand the challenges of development. Glad you got into the industry too :D

When Larian announced that they would not do DLCs for BG3, I understood it when the reasoning they gave was "Their headspace was in a different place". You really have to be motivated and focused on a game to make it end up good. Uninterested developers/distracted team leads to a bad game.

Stoked you're working for a good company and seeing what goes on behind the scenes.. you're knowledge and experience will help those guys too when crafting the game, all the best with it 😊

As someone who is in the development trenches, I can confirm that it is very difficult and making games is equal to magic!

video games and theatre have a lot in common. culling, scene change, reset positions.

Would love to hear more about your experience working in the industry Devil, and some of the disconnects too!

Good video Devil. I've only done a bit of minor game dev in my free time (some Unity, currently learning Unreal) but I'm pretty familiar with general software development as I have a Computer Science degree and have worked as a .NET developer professionally for about 15 years, and yeah, software can get COMPLICATED. I can't even imagine how complex a big game is; even in a fairly small software system you can change one thing and it'll affect things you wouldn't expect. That can/should be limited by proper or more intelligent software architecting, but it's not simply something you can totally eliminate regardless of how you architect things, particularly as the system gets more complex.

Man I've been a professional game developer (gameplay programmer) for almost 15 years. Worked on everything from indie, AAA, mobile, VR/AR prototype tech. Followed your channel for a really long time, as I'm into pretty much all the same games you cover. Can't tell you how awesome it is to hear this. It can be pretty tough to work on something for years of your life, sometimes crunching for 60-80 hours a week to get something out, only to have people with no experience just tear it apart. You were already one of my favorite content creators, but this just puts it over the top. Truly and honestly, thank you for this.

@ReuterL

Ай бұрын

I wonder if you were triggered by his comments in the past since he was wrong and too harsh

Glad you finally got a inside glimpse of how games are actually made. Wish more reviewers of games had this insight

Don’t worry about it devil I’ve been watching you since I was in 6th grade and I am now a 24 year old man and I’m just glade to be here for the journey and see you grow so much since then

People think coming up with a game idea itself is easy, until the find out about the Artists bible and Game Design Documents that have to be compiled before you can even begin work. And the GDD includes the tiniest things like the Elevator Pitch (one liner to catch someone’s attention). It’s insane how much work just goes into the idea alone on paper.

I would highly recommend anyone that plays games on a regular basis to try to make a game. A few years ago I learned how to create a top-down shooter using Unreal Engine 5. Like DDG said, it’s a major eye opener and it makes you appreciate games a little more lol

I know you say we ask for a lot but the one thing I ask for is semi-transparent optic housings 🙏 It's so frustrating to have your optic become an obstruction in these games.

Arrowhead with Helldivers is another company doing great things and caring about their community and product.

@TheDevildogGamer - "Be nice to your game developers.." what a lovely comment, thank you ;)

So is the game going to be console ported is that just rumors?

Hey devil been watching for almost a decade now bavk when you where a young buck no beard shaved head haha love your videos brother it has been an interesting ride from our perspective too much love

@TheDevildogGamer Hey man love this video! Been a long time fan of your channel. Crazy question, are you local to the St. Lucie area? That'd be crazy cause i live in St. Lucie over by Crosstown Pkw and that would blow my mind being in such a small world 😅

as a dev thnx for making this video

To be brutally honest: none of that matters. What matters is the end product. When a customer purchases your product he doesn't want to hear excuses and how tough it was making it.

Was I the only one that heard Palpatine? DO IT DO IT

If it is like running a dayz server as an admin with mods and there is a buttload of requests for a certain mod(underground bunkers for example). Mass poured his heart and soul into getting that running. Took about 3 weeks to finalize it yet not many people one took to it. Guess that's called unfortunate progress in the end.

I got the opportunity to take a couple of game development courses back in college and I absolutely love video games. However, because of those courses I have always had my mind blown and perspective blown wide open for what all goes in to making games. The complexities are endless but so are the possibilities. People who don’t have any experience with what goes on behind the scenes have no idea. That industry is also a meat grinder.

Okay i wishlisted it. You're right about everything you said but, I think the larger a company becomes the more powerful it is and the less passion or feedback is needed. It seems like now a days many of the best games are first or second releases by smaller developers.

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As someone who is interested in game development, my opinion on games is still the same but I'm a little more aware. Most games i said i wouldn't try or see people bash turns out to be pretty good once i play it. My expectations has changed for most titles but for triple A tiltes I still expect more and for them to use that huge cash vault they're sitting on.

thats all well and good, if they would just stop promising the world and then dont deliver. players expectations are to an extent, created by the devs themselves, not just hype

Welcome to the other side 😂

Still think EA stinks XD. love the vids DDG been a fan since you first started on DayZ and its just been a crazy ride awesome to see your influence in Greyzone which has me more excited about getting my hands on it

All that talking done my head in 🤣🤣 4 real

Never been so early to a video, wow

Game development isnt a chore is a massive undertaking of at least 10+ people to make something great. We get it. The problem isnt the fact that so much goes in its how it runs from what ive seen its a game like mercenaries from the playstation back in the day. It sounds Good,Trailer Looks good. But does it run well with the general populace? thats why we suggest things to enhance be it gameplay mechanics,types of game modes, will it have Workshop capability ?, how Graphic intense will it be ? cause not everyone is a content creator and can buy a new PC when they want. Or a new graphics card. From the Trailer its going to be graphic intense, so one might suggest that maybe lowering it a bit so everyone can play instead of the lucky few who can. I am happy that your seeing things from a new perspective as i have been watching youre vids since the Old Arma 2 days as well as all through your Great Moments on Arma 2 Dayz Mod which is probably my personal favorite Content youve done with Onnerby and friends i had a blast watching. i just want a NEW experience not something thats looks great has a lot of features but the design itself is based off another. OR does what a lot of games do lately and hold back all the content by adding DLCs after the games Launch that are supposedly new but where apart but where segmented off so that they can make more money off it. or adds in game cash shops be it for cosmetics or actual gear. its nothing new to me. types of games like this HAS the potential to be great. But will it fall into one of those catergories ? Be you DDG.

Just like food service industry

This whole video screams blink if you need help lol jk

Im honestly not that impressed by Greyzone Warfare, saw the latest gameplay, i don't know, it did not grab me as much as that first trailer.

i did notice the increase of sensationalistic content in your youtube... followed you since your arma 2 videos but now? eh, take care and godspeed.

that's cool and all, but a lot of your views are automatically biased because they are paying you to be a "community manager". Of course you will be hyping up the company you work for, they make it big it benefits you as well. That's not to say its not true, just sadly nowadays words mean nothing to me (as should it with everyone else), actions do. To many bad developers with broken promises or poorly implemented features kind of made me adopt the "put your money where your mouth is" way of thinking. So far, Madfinger is doing an ok job. I mainly play pve and that last patch got me just extra FPS and i am looking forward the possible lz/extract camping fixes and calling in a chopper as I do want to try pvp. But honestly, that whole LZ thing should of been properly thought out before implementing it. Anyone with a sliver of common sense should of realized a game with pvp (where toxicity is the worst) camping would of happened. And a karma system should of been implemented WAAAAAAY before it was released to combat team killing for gear.

As community manager you'll give me a free copy right?

Let them cook. Look at Final Fantasy 7 rebirth (no spoilers) just square doing their thing and it's like being 11 and playing ff7 for the first time it is different some things have changed but holy hell is it good.

honestly... This is nothing but another excuse or "propaganda" for the gaming industry to make crap and not get hate. ( not hating on devidog nor devs. just my opinion) At the end of the day your selling a product not an art piece to just look at. Imagine if we took basically everything sai in this video and applied it to cooking at restaurant. 95% instantly makes no sense but in gaming world i keep hearing people push it. of course customer isn't always right and yeah some ideas just cant be done in games. I could rant forever about the blind followers and how that screws over us all but in the end. aka just look at comments see how many thing this video is some godsend deep dive into how games work and they'll never think twice to dig deeper than this now. but the short of my opinion is I think we need to be harder not softer on gaming devs, companies, CEO etc etc

@l.3626

2 ай бұрын

Game dev is not like restaurant cooking, game Devs is innovating tech, which is a completely different bigger challenge Good games are underappreciated while bad games are over appreciated, BC in the end a game needs to be fun

@19DESERTFOX91

2 ай бұрын

@@l.3626 yes restaurants never innovate cooking... im not talking about McDonald's by that. You can deep dive into almost anything. But yes if just looking at surface you might think its not similar

@l.3626

2 ай бұрын

@@19DESERTFOX91 its not similar, my uncle had a restaurant, as much as I respect that its not nearly the same thing as game development, restaurant is service industry, meaning delivering the same as good as possible, game dev is making something new before running out of money, here is whats going to happen within next 10 years, good games will only exist in small amounts and be more expensive, like can go up to 500$, bc making good games is expensive and with inflation costs just rise You are delusional, just observe what happened past 10years and observe next 10 years

@19DESERTFOX91

2 ай бұрын

@@l.3626 its called an analogy not a direct comparison for a reason. idk what your definition of a "good" game is but by my definition multiple companies and some dedicated single person devs have made good and great games for no more than $60 usually less. if you think games will get up to $500 that's insanity imo so... I'm not gunna even try to argue and I guess we will have to agree to disagree and see in 10 years. :)

@l.3626

2 ай бұрын

@@19DESERTFOX91 Tarkov cost over 150$, other games will also go up, also it's no comparison of old games, it's like with plane tickets, nothing is included anymore except the core product, all games already cost 500$, you just don't realize it

Modern gamers have become entitled, wanting everything while not wanting to pay anything while many constantly fall for cheap trash games Trashing on games is so easy, but imo they are so cheap compared to what value they offer, gamers somehow just refuse to compare gaming to other hobbies which makes gaming super cheap