Wordbuilder Tips for East West Backup Singers and Hollywood Choirs

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In this video, I show you tips to improve phrases and words in Wordbuilder for East West Backup Singers and Hollywood Choirs. This is a followup video to my previous one • Wordbuilder Tutorial i... . Download the EW Libraries here: bit.ly/ewsoundsonline and get the Wordbuilder reference guide here: bit.ly/WORDBUILDER.
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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 - Introduction
0:54 - Finding Wordbuilder
2:08 - Reference Guide
2:25 - Editing Words
4:33 - Recommendations
5:17 - Backup Singers
6:47 - Stock Phrases
7:14 - Saving Phrases
9:30 - Endcreen

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  • @henrygreenwood2113
    @henrygreenwood21133 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for this 🙌🙌

  • @euansmithmusic

    @euansmithmusic

    3 жыл бұрын

    You’re most welcome. Thanks for stopping to watch the video. Plenty more videos like this on the way 😁🎶

  • @atomman40
    @atomman403 жыл бұрын

    Love the plugin but your the only beginner to advance video tutorial for this product i found that explains it in layman's terms

  • @euansmithmusic

    @euansmithmusic

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes, there aren’t many tutorials and I know my last video generated many questions. Good luck with tweaking the choir vocal sounds.

  • @briankurns1047
    @briankurns1047 Жыл бұрын

    4:16 This information is what I have been wanting for a long time. THANKS! I'm anxious to the use Melda MMorph to further twerk the results.....

  • @euansmithmusic

    @euansmithmusic

    10 ай бұрын

    Good luck with this. Let me know how it goes.

  • @OrKestrAlan
    @OrKestrAlan Жыл бұрын

    Excellent tutorial, thanks

  • @euansmithmusic

    @euansmithmusic

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching 😃

  • @AnOpera4u
    @AnOpera4u Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this informative video! I highly recommend the written description on how to use Votox.

  • @euansmithmusic

    @euansmithmusic

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi Anders, I’m glad it was useful. I’m hoping to kickstart another series on these libraries soon. 😁

  • @fadermaster5221
    @fadermaster5221 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing that reference document!

  • @euansmithmusic

    @euansmithmusic

    Жыл бұрын

    No probs. I hope it’s Useful. Did you see the recent Wordbuilder tutorial? kzread.info/dash/bejne/qaqsxJKKddzbmrQ.html

  • @fadermaster5221

    @fadermaster5221

    Жыл бұрын

    @@euansmithmusic just now! Thanks again Euan.

  • @euansmithmusic

    @euansmithmusic

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching 😁 Happy scoring!

  • @atomman40
    @atomman403 жыл бұрын

    Great, tutorial

  • @euansmithmusic

    @euansmithmusic

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thankyou. I hope you watched it all and downloaded the reference guide? Thanks for your support too. 😁🎶

  • @dougboblas
    @dougboblas3 жыл бұрын

    Great work, Euan. Many thanks for your informative video. Can you tell me how I go about linking these sung sounds with the syllables of the lyrics in my score in Sibelius.

  • @euansmithmusic

    @euansmithmusic

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks dougboblas for your comment. You can link the Play engine in Sibelius. Open up a new SATB Score in Sibelius and assign the Play engine in Sibelius's "PLAY" tab. You'll have to do this for each track.Then there are a few steps to complete that would take me too long to type here. Would you like a tutorial video on this next Sunday? If you do, then please subscribe (and tap the bell) so that you net notified when it goes live.

  • @yramhossoo8586
    @yramhossoo85863 жыл бұрын

    you need to do a wordbuilder versus vocaloid

  • @euansmithmusic

    @euansmithmusic

    10 ай бұрын

    Yes, I have heard of Vocaloid. It's a technology developed by the Yamaha Corporation and has spawned various virtual pop stars, most notably Hatsune Miku. Both Wordbuilder and Vocaloid are used for creating artificial vocals but are quite different in terms of their features, workflow, and the type of vocals they can produce. Wordbuilder is often associated with EastWest's vocal libraries and is designed to articulate text in a way that mimics human-like singing. Vocaloid, on the other hand, is a software singing synthesizer enabling users to create songs by typing in lyrics and melody. Vocaloid is often used in various music genres and has a substantial following, especially in Japan.

  • @abagatelle
    @abagatelle3 жыл бұрын

    How about recording a short simple piece into your DAW, to show the process from beginning to end. eg The Lords my shepherd I'll not want. Very happy I've found your channel 👍

  • @euansmithmusic

    @euansmithmusic

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching. If you subscribe, you’ll be notified when I upload such a tutorial. Maybe I could livestream it. I’m working on a Wordbuilder-related video this week. 😁

  • @abagatelle

    @abagatelle

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@euansmithmusic Enjoying your tutorials Euan. A question: is it possible to use pre-built phrases from say Backup Singers in Hollywood Choirs or Symphonic Choirs? The votox would be standard in any version of Player wouldn't it, just the actual emitted sounds being different as a function of which choir sample library selected?

  • @euansmithmusic

    @euansmithmusic

    3 жыл бұрын

    Totally yes. Just copy and paste. I did try this with some examples. Depending on how modern the library is, the results can vary slightly. e.g. from Symphonic Choirs to Hollywood Choirs, there’s a slight difference.

  • @MatthewKaiserMusic
    @MatthewKaiserMusic2 жыл бұрын

    Great tutorial, thanks! Is there a way to change pitch without triggering the start of the next word? aka tied notes? I'm using a single word, "wave/wEiv/wiEv" and I want to change pitch without triggering the word wave again. Like moving from C3 to D3. Thanks.

  • @euansmithmusic

    @euansmithmusic

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have never managed this with the way the patches are designed, but I suppose if exported to audio, you could play with portamento. I’ve never tried it though. There is another way to get melisma though, so you may find this video I did of use: kzread.info/dash/bejne/pKicqpV7Y9OnfrA.html

  • @robertsirico3670
    @robertsirico36703 жыл бұрын

    I subbed because your video is awesome. Can I write an opera style aria say, for a soprano who sings a melisma w a syllable over several changing notes? Or a Motet? Example “a-mor-e”. I have not found video explaining that. Seems most choirs are singing homophonically rather than polyphonically. Please explain

  • @euansmithmusic

    @euansmithmusic

    3 жыл бұрын

    HI Robert. Thanks very much. Yes you can score a melisma (but only for WB Multi patches and not solo voices). Add in additional letters of the phrase you want and to stop it from sounding "choppy" just select the performance parameter to "slurred legato". Then record and enjoy the smooth vocal effects. Would you like me to record a video toturial showing exactly how this is done?

  • @euansmithmusic

    @euansmithmusic

    3 жыл бұрын

    You might want to checkout this short video on Melisma in Wordbuilder that’ll be right up your street. kzread.info/dash/bejne/pKicqpV7Y9OnfrA.html

  • @bronson1392
    @bronson13922 жыл бұрын

    Very useful thanks! I find the stock words that come with the WB uninspiring, intolerable and unusable

  • @euansmithmusic

    @euansmithmusic

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agreed. I’ve always tweaked, invented new combinations and more. It helps hugely to build your own creativity into your music. Have fun.

  • @bronson1392

    @bronson1392

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@euansmithmusic Hi Euan, A question pls, I'm just trying to use this WB again and I have a simple issue (I hope!) So I tried Kyrie = KE R!E e but the third note 'e' is always a low velocity to the rest before it..What I'm i doing wrong? So many times the Velocites seem to be random as I play through the words syllables. I've subbed btw ; )

  • @euansmithmusic

    @euansmithmusic

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Pinda, thanks for your question. The best way to tweak the ‘e’ to sound like ‘ay’ for example is to drag the sound in the WB editor. Cycle through each sound instance until you find the letter you need, then lengthen the bar. This should help with the sound. Sometimes it’s trial and error. Another method is to change the spelling of the word to change the sound.

  • @al_wombat
    @al_wombat3 жыл бұрын

    Great! Thanks! What languages apart from Scottish are supported?

  • @euansmithmusic

    @euansmithmusic

    3 жыл бұрын

    You’ll be pleased to hear that English, Spanish, German, Italian and Latin as well as Phonetics are all supported. Of course, you’ll have watched the video to know this surely? Thanks for dropping by. 😁🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @euansmithmusic
    @euansmithmusic3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching. If you’re stuck, EW have a guide here: media.soundsonline.com/docs/EW-WordBuilder-Quick-Guide.pdf. GET FREE MERCH by joining my clan: bit.ly/ESMPATREON. You can catch the Wordbuilder overview video that I recorded 6 months before this one: kzread.info/dash/bejne/qn1h28p9hJSrYZc.html. SUBSCRIBE NOW for more videos: bit.ly/ESMSUBSCRIBE see you in the next one!

  • @FabioMelis
    @FabioMelis8 ай бұрын

    thank you for your video! i am trying desperately to get the choir to sing the lyrics "I will carry you in my heart" but it seems impossible to succeed. What can I write in the text editor to do it?

  • @euansmithmusic

    @euansmithmusic

    8 ай бұрын

    Are you looking to have these lyrics split over many notes? Just type in English, but split the words during each key press. If you want a syllable to repeat then type them in more than once. I’d start with the stock phrases and edit them from there. Good luck!

  • @FabioMelis

    @FabioMelis

    8 ай бұрын

    @@euansmithmusic Yes exactly! I need the vst to scan 8 notes. I - WILL - CA - RRY YOU - IN - MY - HEART. but there is no way to get it to say the word carry. Thanks in advance!

  • @euansmithmusic

    @euansmithmusic

    8 ай бұрын

    @@FabioMelis try “ca ray” or “ca Re”.

  • @midicalproductions4722
    @midicalproductions47222 жыл бұрын

    Hi, i would like to understand how many words i can tape in a single worldbuilder, i mean for each phrase i need a different patch on play? Is possible to use one patch with more phrases? If so how to manage this? with keyswitches?

  • @euansmithmusic

    @euansmithmusic

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your comment. You can have several lines typed in one instance of Opus / Play. Just split up each word you’d like to play / repeat etc. checkout this handout for more in-depth detail: media.soundsonline.com/docs/EW-WordBuilder-Quick-Guide.pdf

  • @Superduperond
    @Superduperond5 ай бұрын

    How does this plugin handle quick phrases? Feels like it lends itself to sustained notes rather than staccato singing.

  • @euansmithmusic

    @euansmithmusic

    5 ай бұрын

    It handles short syllabic words quite well, but you need to shorten the length of each in the editor below.

  • @50hansroz
    @50hansroz2 жыл бұрын

    does it work in Logic Pro? I can't get the word builder button, although I loaded the right WB Multi

  • @euansmithmusic

    @euansmithmusic

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes absolutely, I use it in Logic Pro. What library are you using and if it’s the Opus Engine, you have to select Performance Tab and Wordbuilder is in there. 😁

  • @onealforde7624
    @onealforde76242 жыл бұрын

    In logoc pro x what notes on the keybroad to press

  • @euansmithmusic

    @euansmithmusic

    2 жыл бұрын

    Each library has its own range. You first have to type in the words you want. If you’re in Play, then it’s slightly different to the Opus Engine (click PERFORMANCE then Wordbuilder). Once you’ve typed in your phrase then it’ll work. By the way, check you have an eligible sound library like Hollywood Choirs, choose a WB PATCH then play. My video links to a guide in the description that’ll give you all of the steps you need.

  • @onealforde7624

    @onealforde7624

    2 жыл бұрын

    Word builder is not working in play only in opus .. I press the spacebar not work

  • @mrdali67
    @mrdali672 жыл бұрын

    Is there any way to get correct pronunciation for nordic languages ? æ and å should be possible, but like everyone knows, all Danes love getting Americans (or English) people to say "Rødgrød med fløde" cause they simply can't figure out how to pronounce "Ø" 😎

  • @euansmithmusic

    @euansmithmusic

    2 жыл бұрын

    If you tweak each of the syllables and phonemes individually by altering the length and strength of each letter, you should get a close example. Have you tried with any examples of Nordic languages?

  • @WealthyPlaceRecords
    @WealthyPlaceRecords Жыл бұрын

    I need help with word builder can you help me?

  • @euansmithmusic

    @euansmithmusic

    Жыл бұрын

    Sure, what specifically is the issue? Have you read the linked guide?

  • @noxalchemist3069
    @noxalchemist30693 жыл бұрын

    do you have a wordbuilder cheat sheet with?

  • @euansmithmusic

    @euansmithmusic

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi, I don’t, but you might find this one useful. media.soundsonline.com/docs/EW-WordBuilder-Phonetic-Alphabet-Reference.pdf

  • @noxalchemist3069

    @noxalchemist3069

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@euansmithmusic thank you for taking the time to reply, I did download it a few day ago already, I see people doing great things but i cant replicate it on my DAW, I use midi script to triger the notes, but dynamics are messed up, then it has unwanted loops, it also doesnt follow the notes, then when I use it as stand alone w my midi controller, it seems that the word builder reacts to the dynamics and makes diferent sounds that what I intended, so I dont get to win either way, its frustrating because despite how much time it put into it it seems a waste, since I dont get anywhere

  • @euansmithmusic

    @euansmithmusic

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Nokturnal, I can sympathise with your frustrations. It’s a shame they haven’t implemented full on dynamic controls with a MIDI controller, unless I’m doing things wrongly with my NanoKontrol II. Maybe they’ll update the libraries with Opus and it’ll be more intuitive. I’ll keep playing around with it. I have planned a video with copy/paste lyrics, editing them, tweaking for realism. I’ll release this soon then hopefully you might get some ideas from it that may help. I use Spitfire Audio libraries (many are free) and they have dynamics and other controls very finely tuned. Always happy to reply to comments. We’re all trying to figure things out on here, so I’m always glad of the support 😁

  • @jarrodwhitley
    @jarrodwhitley2 жыл бұрын

    My wordbuilder button is not blue and when I click on it nothing happens. Any idea of what I should do? I've already reinstalled Play 6 and checked for updates but it didn't make a difference.

  • @euansmithmusic

    @euansmithmusic

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi, check that you’ve selected a WB MULTI patch in a valid library (such as Hollywood Choirs) and you’ve got a valid licence. You can check the licence when you install EW INSTALLER and manage your patches there as well. Let me know how you get on.

  • @americanskeptic1559

    @americanskeptic1559

    2 жыл бұрын

    You're right, their plugin is broken, word builder doesn't work

  • @euansmithmusic

    @euansmithmusic

    2 жыл бұрын

    Are you sure? I was using it only 3 days ago and it worked fine for me. What library are you using it with?

  • @americanskeptic1559

    @americanskeptic1559

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@euansmithmusic ew Hollywood backup singers

  • @euansmithmusic

    @euansmithmusic

    2 жыл бұрын

    What issues are you experiencing with WB in the library?

  • @mrsaxophone4765
    @mrsaxophone47652 жыл бұрын

    I have a question. I have to use some phrases more than once. It's a total waste of time editing every single note. Is there a way to copy and paste the words with all the editing made on them?

  • @euansmithmusic

    @euansmithmusic

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, copy and paste the WB text with edits. Create your new melodic line as normal, then paste your text on top of the new melodic line. You can use multiple lines of text in one instance of WB. Good luck!

  • @mrsaxophone4765

    @mrsaxophone4765

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@euansmithmusic well, if i do that, all the edit i did will not be pasted Let's say i made "a new beginning" and edited how it sounds. A for edited and a for not edited a new beginning Then A NEW BEGINNING Copy and paste A NEW BEGINNING a new beginning So whenever i paste, i lose in the pasted tedt what i edited, so if i want for exemple the letter b to be stronger always, i gotta edit it two times. What if that word or syllable is repeated 100 times? I have to edit all 100 times.

  • @mrsaxophone4765

    @mrsaxophone4765

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@euansmithmusic for exemple in Lacrimosa if i want to sing the whole lyrics, i cant write Lacrimosa only once, but twice. I have to write "lu u crE mo su", edit 5 times because i have to adjust all the syllables then copy and paste and re-edit them, for a total of 10 edits when i needed only 5, not counting the rest (qua resurget ex favilla...)

  • @euansmithmusic

    @euansmithmusic

    2 жыл бұрын

    I see. Well you can save your edits and reload them. That may help.

  • @mrsaxophone4765

    @mrsaxophone4765

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@euansmithmusic how?

  • @gustafknudsen3344
    @gustafknudsen33442 жыл бұрын

    I can't open the "word builder"? It doesn't light up

  • @euansmithmusic

    @euansmithmusic

    2 жыл бұрын

    Are you using a library that supports WB Multi patches? Are you using Play Engine, or Opus? If you watch this video, I’ll go into more depth: kzread.info/dash/bejne/aq1hs9N_ic_IY7w.html. Thanks for watching.

  • @onealforde7624
    @onealforde76242 жыл бұрын

    When in logic I type in a word .. in opus press the space bar nothing works

  • @euansmithmusic

    @euansmithmusic

    2 жыл бұрын

    Have you checked you have a licence and that the libraries are up to date via the EW Installation Centre? I would get in touch with with EW. Follow the guide in my last reply and you’ll be fine. Usually it’s: 1) Licence 2) Installation location 3) Update. 4) Use if the correct compatible. WB MULTI Patch 5) Compatible MIDI Input device. The word is triggered via midi keyboard for example and not the space bar. Good luck.

  • @onealforde7624

    @onealforde7624

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@euansmithmusic on the midi yes i can hear the notes but not the word i type in wordbuiler

  • @GTSongwriter
    @GTSongwriter Жыл бұрын

    I couldn't use this plug-in... It's very resource heavy and requires a more modern computer. My computer at the time was a i7, 32gb ram, m.2 2TB from 2015. The chip was from 2015. It was a $4000 laptop at that time and now sells for $1500. It can't handle that plug-in.

  • @euansmithmusic

    @euansmithmusic

    Жыл бұрын

    How strange. Mine is a 2014 Mac Mini i7 and has 16Gb RAM. The plugin works fine but check you’re using Opus engine and not Play.

  • @GTSongwriter

    @GTSongwriter

    Жыл бұрын

    @@euansmithmusic Maybe next time I might give it another chance. I've already uninstalled the demo. So they'd have to give me another demo trail time again too. Thank you for the info, if I try it again I will look for that.

  • @euansmithmusic

    @euansmithmusic

    Жыл бұрын

    Good luck.

  • @campar1043
    @campar10432 жыл бұрын

    i have hollywood backup singers wordbuilder loaded but the wordbuilder button is greyed out?

  • @euansmithmusic

    @euansmithmusic

    2 жыл бұрын

    How strange. Do you have the libraries installed to a SSD Drive. Have you got a licence updated through iLok? Have you installed it with EW Installation Centre and is it up-to-date? Just check that you’re also selecting a WB Multi patch as Wordbuilder doesn’t support solo voices. Once you’ve checked all of these, you’ll be good to go. 😁🎶

  • @campar1043

    @campar1043

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@euansmithmusic figured it out for some reason word builder wasn’t checked first time around for the product support installation, thanks for the help though

  • @euansmithmusic

    @euansmithmusic

    2 жыл бұрын

    No worries. I’m glad you sorted it. Are you state-side? I’m UK Based, so not always able to reply as swiftly to my US Audiences as I’d like. I’ve got more WB videos coming soon. 😁

  • @campar1043

    @campar1043

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@euansmithmusic I’m in Canada 🇨🇦

  • @euansmithmusic

    @euansmithmusic

    2 жыл бұрын

    Awesome. A country that’s on my list to visit. Welcome here and thanks for your comments.

  • @PatAutrey
    @PatAutrey4 ай бұрын

    The reference file does not work

  • @euansmithmusic

    @euansmithmusic

    4 ай бұрын

    As in, doesn’t load, or you can’t get the results you require? The pinned comment in this thread takes you straight to the PDF.

  • @PatAutrey

    @PatAutrey

    4 ай бұрын

    @@euansmithmusic The PDF does not open for me for some reason not sure why

  • @euansmithmusic

    @euansmithmusic

    4 ай бұрын

    @PatAutrey how strange. I just tested it and it was fine on both a phone and desktop.

  • @rumblebproductions4910
    @rumblebproductions49102 жыл бұрын

    For some reason mine isn’t reading the words just saying ooooo

  • @euansmithmusic

    @euansmithmusic

    2 жыл бұрын

    Have you tried typing words into the Wordbuilder plugin and chosen a WB MULTI patch? This video for Sibelius might help. kzread.info/dash/bejne/eZ1rwdmBf67Ye6w.html

  • @euansmithmusic

    @euansmithmusic

    2 жыл бұрын

    Have you tried typing words into the Wordbuilder plugin and chosen a WB MULTI patch? This video for Sibelius might help. kzread.info/dash/bejne/eZ1rwdmBf67Ye6w.html

  • @rumblebproductions4910

    @rumblebproductions4910

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@euansmithmusic yes I have. It’s just keep singing the ahhhs no words. Thank you for replying.

  • @euansmithmusic

    @euansmithmusic

    2 жыл бұрын

    No problem. I’m curious why this is. Sometimes, reinstalling and selecting a different location to save the library might help you. 😁

  • @mikaelwetterlundh92

    @mikaelwetterlundh92

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same here! It does not play the WB phrase, just ooooo...... Have you solved this?

  • @onealforde7624
    @onealforde76242 жыл бұрын

    Wordbuild in play do not show up

  • @euansmithmusic

    @euansmithmusic

    10 ай бұрын

    It sounds like you're experiencing an issue where the Wordbuilder feature isn't appearing in the Play Engine. It's worth noting that the Play Engine has been upgraded to the Opus Engine, so updating your software through the EW Downloader could resolve your problem. Additionally, ensure that your system meets the minimum requirements for the new engine to function correctly. If you're new to this engine, I have a course launching soon that will provide a comprehensive overview of the Opus Engine and how to use its features, including Wordbuilder. Stay tuned for that! Here's how you could guide someone experiencing this issue: Update the Play Engine to the Opus Engine via the EW Downloader. Verify that your computer meets the system requirements for the new Opus Engine. Once you've updated, open the engine and see if Wordbuilder appears as an option. I hope that helps. Stay tuned for the course which should demystify many of the features and functionalities of this powerful engine.

  • @onealforde7624
    @onealforde76242 жыл бұрын

    Need help this dont work at all

  • @euansmithmusic

    @euansmithmusic

    2 жыл бұрын

    Have you tried following this? media.soundsonline.com/docs/EW-WordBuilder-Quick-Guide.pdf

  • @petertremblay3725
    @petertremblay3725 Жыл бұрын

    I don't get why people would use the world builder to get English or any other language except latin, it's ridiculous and always sound horrible! My user case is for a video game score where i invented word based on ancient Egyptian to make some kind of magic incantations choir that sound ominous.

  • @euansmithmusic

    @euansmithmusic

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your input.

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