Woodworkers marking knife
The woodworkers marking knife or striking knife is a traditional tool for laying out lines that need to be sawn or chiseled. The knife line is much more accurate than a pencil line. The reverse end of this knife forms an awl point used for other marking and layout purposes.
Thank you for watching. Black Bear Forge is a small one person shop located in Southern Colorado.
If you would like to take a more active role in the production of these videos, you may provide financial support through one of the two links below.
www.paypal.me/BlackBearForge
Or you may set up a monthly contribution through Patreon
/ blackbearforge
I have set up a Facebook group just for my KZread channel.
If you would like to share your work that was inspired by my videos
This is the place to do that
/ 101400907400310
Find my shop on line at:
www.blackbearforge.com
www.blackbearforge.etsy.com
/ blackbearforge
/ black-bear-forge-20986...
If you have something you want to send my way you may do so at:
Black Bear Forge
P.O. Box 4
Beulah, CO 81023
The following list provides just a few resources to help you find supplies and equipment for blacksmithing.
CPO Outlet www.anrdoezrs.net/click-885600...
Milwaukee power tools www.kqzyfj.com/click-8856008-1...
www.saymakhammers.com/
www.oleoacresfarriersupply.com/
www.piehtoolco.com/
www.centaurforge.com/
www.blacksmithsdepot.com/
www.blacksmithbolt.com/
www.oldworldanvils.com/
www.nimbaanvils.com/
www.abana.org/
www.mcmaster.com
kensironstore.com/
Blacksmithing and related activities can be hazardous. These videos are not a substitute for competent professional instruction. Your safety is your sole responsibility. Always use appropriate safety equipment including eye and ear protection when working in the shop. Follow manufactures safety guidelines for the use of all equipment. In the event something shown in one of these videos seems unsafe, it is up to you to make the appropriate changes to protect yourself.
Пікірлер: 114
You know? I've been woodworking for decades now. I have been aware of scratch awls and striking knives for years, but this is the first intelligent and coherent explanation I've heard for using one. Now I will have to try one out. I never stop learning something. You da man!
I don't do any woodworking but I have several friends who do.....this looks like a good barter item)) Thanks for the great video!
Anvil sounds so good. No pain in my ears. I could get in to blacksmithing if I could deaden an anvil like yours
I like Paul Sellers channel. He tends to put me to sleep with his soft spoken easy going style.
+1 for Paul Sellers. I tend to watch both of your channels a fair bit.
Oh man do I love that solid anvil.
@bobbg9041
3 жыл бұрын
Yes thats a monster. It didn't even budge. A railroad track chunk isn't bad but thats really nice.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge
@BlackBearForge
5 жыл бұрын
You are welcome
@alexfullmer4707
5 жыл бұрын
@@BlackBearForge could a man use a broken drill bit to make something like this?
I was aware of the striking knife, but don't have one. Yet. Excellent, thanks!
I was researching marking knives and I found your channel. And I'm sure glad I did because I have never seen this type with a combination of an awl and marking blade. I have 3 drawers of pen blanks in every species you can think of. I paid near to nothing for them so I figured I could use them to make a few handy tools to sell and give away as gifts to my family of woodworkers. I love your shop and all of the tools hanging on the walls. I have a love of old tools and vehicles and it is my dream to purchase an old Macgregor or a Parks bandsaw. I don't know how much one weighs, but I know I will have to either reinforce the floor or cut a section of the floor away and pour a cement pad. I just love the weigh a simple tool can look beautiful! They put so much work into iron tools back then. Like the wheels on a Parks bandsaw, or all of the extra iron-work they put into a Singer Sewing Machine. Well, I'm going to watch more of your videos. Thank you for making this style of a hand tool.
Wish I had known about these Wood-Workers Marking Knives a long time ago. My Farmer Farther-in-law was a serious hobbiest, woodworker that would have loved a left-hand knife.
I worked in a machine shop. I spent 8 hours a day with a 4" angle grinder, when I sharpen my mower blades I use it becuse i can freehand 2 stright edges. I'll put a nice 45 edge down each side of the blade, sometimes ill do it on the mower. I know i should balance it but I'm pretty much right on the money most the time. Plus on a signal piston motor I dont think its doing any more damage to the crank the pistons doing anyway.
The lighting of the shop shots looks great! I know that's not the point of the video but I just really appreciated it. Thanks
As a new woodworker I bought a spear point marking knife (I didn't even realise that there are left and right handed ones) and love it. It probably helps that I'm ambidextrous so I'd probably really struggle with one intended for left or right handed!!! LOL At the moment I'm watching almost every one of your projects and thinking that I need to make one for myself!!! Stop making great tool idea's! 😋 Definitely got to make my own marking knife 😊
I really like the spear point knife in the middle with a twist!
I own a brought marking knife, i don't use it a whole lot. If i made my own, i'm sure i would use it more often. Great video John, thanks for sharing.
Nice!!! I made myself one and I highly recommend!
Loved this. Simple but useful. Would make an amazing gift for a few folks i know
Great video! I’ve recently made a few ice pick/ scratch awls out of Ford pushrods. I like making those tools. Thank you for the subject!!!
Crucial tool.Your vids are theraputic.I now have a monitor for the shop ,so i can bring you into the shop, on a bigger screen.
another great tool as always!
Your teaching is great thank you for sharing your experience
Love your wood working area my friend. Quite the different space than the forge for sure. I love to make tools. They are all so satisfying to work with.
Other then keeping the edge . To me what makes the difference between good and Great is will it stay in your pocket ! No good if I have to look for it. Nice work always enjoy your presentation.
Super good video. I love your wood shop. Blacksmithing and woodworking, the best of both worlds.
Excellent! Been thinking of making one, one of the only if not the only comprehensive explanations I’ve seen!
Love your vids John , u r a master .
Another great video. Thank you for your video's Sir.
Great camera angles! Thanks John. My brother is a wood worker. I will be making one of these for him.
@BlackBearForge
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks
Made one for my brother in law a week ago. Really a great project
That's a cool little knife. Never seen one of those before, but it makes total sense. I'll definitely be forging a few of those. Thanks for the great videos as always! 👍
Well thank you John, now you can tell everybody that you have made a knife and, I used one years ago and I always called it a cabinet installers awl
@BlackBearForge
5 жыл бұрын
I have made lots of knives over the years. I'm just no that good compared to so many others, so it isn't the focus for the channel. This would be the third made for a video.
Fun to see you with a wood working backdrop.
I always make the awl end square (about 3/16 tapering to 1/8 at the point) It fishtails into the blade which usually ends up about an inch wide tapering to 1/8th in thick and 1 1/4inches long they are ground like a double bevel skew chisel. I file it just enough to get rid of the sharp edges. The local woodworkers say they work better than anything they can buy.
I've been watching for a while now, but have never commented before. I have enjoyed your lessons and I am learning a lot from you! I particularly like the close-up camera shots you used in this one. Good job!
I actually get a good steel for this project often. Like to let you know, the package I'm trying to send you is delayed again. Wanted to get it to you Christmas. Just got a house with 15 acres. 6 tiled farm, 3 hard wood 3 pasture and brick House. Moving out of City. Now I can build a real smithy. And I'll have to break my package down. It weighs more then my anvil. And my wife doesn't approve that shipping cost lol. Do I'd say another 90 days. Love the videos. Always inspiring. Always educational. God bless you and yours.
@BlackBearForge
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the update. Don't stress about it, shipping can be expensive.
Thanks for the tips. This will definitely help when I make my next kiradashi.
great video sir!
Great tool, John. I'm going to teach my class to make this.
Awsome video John. I havent seen one of those before. Definitely has a good pur6in the shop
Very cool little tool John! I hadn’t heard of these before and will make myself one!
Very interesting. I have seen striking knives previously, but never gave them much thought. The Japanese version, the kiridashi, seems to currently be more in vogue among knifemakers, and I have seen several of those made in KZread videos over the past few years, but this is the first time I recall seeing anyone show the making of the traditional western-style striking knife.
@BlackBearForge
5 жыл бұрын
Its not often I can come up with an original idea.
@Luis-eu2ow
5 жыл бұрын
@@BlackBearForge Though you don't give yourself enough credit. Even if the ideas aren't always original the way you present them is. I have learned more from your channel than any other channel on KZread. You keep trying new things and explaining them in an easy to understand way. You help us explore and grow to do bigger better and greater things! (edit) That and you show your humanity, instead of being perfect you show how to fix the screwups and make due with what you've got. Keep being awesome!!
Good job brother john. since i'm primarily a woodworker, i have 2-3 marking knives... ALL made from knives that had broken blades and of course with ready made handles.
Thanks sir.
Hmm awesome idea. Both for my woodworking and I suspect great for my leather work too. Also also thanks loads for the slightly different differential hardening tip. I prefer to use an oven but hasn't realised you could achieve different tempers by selectively hardening. Quite simple really when you realise. Thanks Really enjoying your video production style at the moment too.
thank you
And O, btw. Great job on the wing dividers!!! I’m going to attempt to make a set...! Key word, try!!!😂😂
merci encore pour cette bonne vidéo meilleurs voeux pour 2019 Didier France
Great idea having both the awl and knife in one I am definitely making one. I have heard that heating up the oil will actually give you a more severe quench and will cool the steel more quickly will that make cracking more likely than cool oil
one downside though with a knife mark is that you cant erase it like a pencil line, but a tool for etching lines is still used, and has its place, and is desired especially if you are carving.
I lost one I bought, need to make one.
i watched his tutorial on a workbench he definitely knows his stuff
@BlackBearForge
5 жыл бұрын
If I ever get more serious about woodworking i will probably sign up for his online class.
Look out, folks! He's goin' octagon......Let's get ready to ruuuuuumble!! LOL ( I know, but couldn't resist ).
@BlackBearForge
2 жыл бұрын
as long as we don't go plaid we should be OK
@yamahabiker1937
2 жыл бұрын
@@BlackBearForge LOL
Another great video John. Thanks for teaching me a knew knife. I currently use a kiridhasi as my marking knife. Very simular but know I'll be trying a few of these. Oh by the way I noticed on the video that you wooden tool cabinet still doesn't have the new handles on it. I know your a busy guy but that cabinet would look really sharp with that assortment of handles on it.
@BlackBearForge
5 жыл бұрын
Soon, I hope
John if when you hot cut for the angle if you made two cuts you can make it a left and right handed knife, I myself don’t like the two ended tool if I am using the scribe I must have a very sharp knife pointing at me? And in the tool box Drawers when you reach fi it there will be a sharp end pointing at you. If on the other hand you make two tools you will have more time at the anvil (practice) and you will have two pieces of (art) tools to show off. Thanks for all your time and tips. Be well and be safe
@BlackBearForge
5 жыл бұрын
This was based on the old style tool. But most newer ones are single ended.
Noice! 🐾🔥⚒
Great tool. I will make one because I have troubles at times starting out my hand saw. Thanks for this John. Nice how 2 trades come together and to be able to see how. 👍🏼
Level up on the editing skills!
Heard you mention a while back that you were interested in having a ribbon burner. If you were to build one, it would make for a great series of videos. If I understand correctly they are much quieter than a regular lp forge
@BlackBearForge
5 жыл бұрын
Perhaps that will finally get done this year.
Sometimes you really make me feel lazy. I would go straight to the belt grinder! I do understand why you didn't though.
Colloquially known as the "widow maker" marking knife.
As they come in either right or left handed configurations or both as diamond point would a knife on each end one right and one left instead of the awl be more useful? They are beautiful tools.
@BlackBearForge
5 жыл бұрын
Perhaps, but this is the style of the old tools.
Can you forge weld stainless steel to a piece of door spring steel for decorative purposes? I’m curious if they will.
Great video. What do you use to light your torch? A candle of some type?
@BlackBearForge
2 жыл бұрын
Its a gas saver valve with pilot light kzread.info/dash/bejne/epiDwdyoYazFg9o.html
I want one, I dont have a forge any of thoses tools to use. Grinder and sanders ive got. Do you sell them?
I notice you keep turning off the propane to your forge. Do you just let the residual heat re-ignite the forge or do you have like an electric spark to re-ignite? Looks like good practice. Im building my forge stand so need to figure out a good setup for turning on and off as needed.
@BlackBearForge
5 жыл бұрын
I only turn the gas off to improve audio quality during the videos. It isn't something I do in my regular work day. Generally there is enough residual heat to relight the forge when it is hot enough. I have seen a few forges with a small burner added for use as an idle or pilot light.
Hey, can you make a croatian "kosir"? I want to make one but being a complete beginner I don'tknow how to best make the curve on it. Besides, I guarantee most americans have never seen one so it might be a cool project :)
Another great video. What is the benefit of using glass cleaner on your sharpening stones? Thanks.
@BlackBearForge
5 жыл бұрын
The diamond plates are steel with a diamond coating. Using water will lead to rust and the glass cleaner (not the same as window cleaner) from an auto parts store seems to avoid that problem. Oil tends to end up being a big mess.
@johnwest4788
5 жыл бұрын
@@BlackBearForge Thank you
Technically, each one would make a good pole lathe chisel if mounted on a long handle :)
@BlackBearForge
3 жыл бұрын
I think they are way to light and thin to be a usable lathe tool
though these are knives they are used to do a job not just cut they are specialty knives like a big bowl knife that I am still having trouble with because of the curved blade
Thinking might be more comfortable if shaped more like an exacto hobbiest's knife.
@BlackBearForge
3 жыл бұрын
while i am sure thats true, most modern ones are. This design is based on numerous historical examples
Could you perhaps show how to make a weather vane? I sometimes have people asking about those and now it seems I have a very interested client asking about prices. I've thought about how to make it before but I'm making it much more complicated than it needs to be. It would be the silhouette of two common cranes (the bird). Maybe I should rivet sheet steel onto connecting metal pieces that then go around the metal rod they rotate around.
@BlackBearForge
5 жыл бұрын
I have never made a weather vane. It may take some research.
@jarntagforge5351
5 жыл бұрын
@@BlackBearForge okay, yeah I have to do that. Thanks anyway.
I have a question for you John, if you don't mind. In the last few videos you have been using the lighter( according to you) diagonal peen hammer instead of the cross peen, is there a reason or did you just feel like a change????
@BlackBearForge
5 жыл бұрын
Mostly its because some of these projects are smaller and don't really need the heavier hammer.
Putting these on Etsy?
I got my toaster oven at Salvation Army for $10. 😄
So where did you get the lidded quench bucket?
@joemelvin5254
5 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure that's called a rag can. An industrial supplier like Grainger or fastenall will carry them
@bwhip
5 жыл бұрын
@@joemelvin5254 Also called oily waste cans and/or safety cans.
@BlackBearForge
5 жыл бұрын
The other commenters are correct. It is a rag can. I have a five gallon bucket of oil in the 10 gallon rag can.
My brother in law is in to wood working,these would be perfect I think for him!! I bought some steel(flat and round stock) I have no clue what kind of steel it is! I'm new to this! Any suggestions that a beginner can do to figure ethis out!
@cartercustoms4600
5 жыл бұрын
Spark test and heat treat test. He has videos on that topic so just hunt through his videos and you can find exactly what you are needing. Good luck!
@BlackBearForge
5 жыл бұрын
kzread.info/dash/bejne/g4KYt7mxiZjUips.html
@stageforgejon905
5 жыл бұрын
@@cartercustoms4600 thank you! I will do that!!
He sounds like Ron Swanson
Just curious. When you make something like this marking knife, do you make two or more the same time? Like when one makes a pie, alway make two. By the way I really enjoy your videos. I'm learning a lot. I will likely follow your footsteps and be a blacksmith once I retire from my 8-5 job. Learning now so I'll be ready.
@howardrichburg2398
5 жыл бұрын
I guess if I watched the entire video before commenting I would have seen you made several.
الفيديو خلص ونته ادك بلحديده اختصر يا اخي
omg im dying!! look how big his eyes are at 1:12 omegalul!
Lol cell phone app. Thers somthing they didn't say in the 1800s. Our welder used to cool parts in sand If he was doing some in-house heat treating. He also used oil. Welders kind of became the modern day black Smith. Well good ones anyway.
I really think id give a wack at it remember strick wile the irons hot. I've done a little forge work years ago. If your upset you can work out your frustration on some metal and make somthing out of nothing. There nothing more gratifying then crafting somthing by hand. Machines are nice but hand tools give you a work out too. Thats one old guy id hate to get into a fist fight with. Not that I would.
Ok my horse done yet?