Wood Master 4400 | Is it Cheaper than Propane?
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In this days it is not available a lot of options of Wood Burning Stove. A lot of FAKE "fire heathers" . In the past was very nice when You hear a fire burning with a not loud fire cracking sound. Fire inside the house was very inspiring and calming.
Nice setup you have there. One of the best things I like about my wood burner is that I don't need to split the wood. Just cut it to size where you can still pick it up and you're done. I live in the jungle at the top of a mountain in Tennessee, so I get all my wood for free. My tractor has a grapple and I use it to get the trees from the jungle and my neighbors' lots. My wife and I really love the wood furnace heated water heater. Nothing like getting a free hot shower.
@KipSieglerFarming1
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Right on
Thanks for informative video on the wood boiler. Goal is to have one for next winter. LP bill is getting old. Making mortgage payment on our 240 acre dairy farm deciding why not use the woods we are paying on to heat for us going forward.
Wood warms you more than one time. One.of.the advantages
Hello, I have the 4400 as well. Best decision I made to hear our house. Only thing I do differently is I split my wood so that I don't have to pick up such heavy pieces. Happy new year.
@KipSieglerFarming1
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Good choice!
wood heats you up 3-4 times, cutting, s tacking, burning and enjoying, but don't forget ear protection or your kids will yell at you years down the road
@ronbiggin7861
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Have to agree on the ear protection
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I have a outdoor wood burner I use a 372XP and a 550XP BEST SAW EVER
Love your wood heating system, but 74 75 degrees? That’s summer heat. 😂 I’ve never set my heat over 68. ❤️ love it
@KipSieglerFarming1
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Yes! Thank you!
Thanks for showing and explaining the wood boiler. It's awesome how it works and saves money.
That wood stove hooked to your furnace is a great idea, friend of mine has that same setup kip, works excellent, thanks for sharing, that was a great video 🇺🇲💪🌲
Pretty cool system :) In Germany we got a wood chip boiler. It turns on and off by himself. You only have to put the woodchips with a loader in the silo. Better for the back ;) And if no one is at home it still works. Maybe you have to put some antifreeze in your watersystem so it can't freeze.
Warm shop for them to play in is valuable. Smart man.
Grant is taking everything in. He knows exactly what's going on. One day soon, he will be assisting you with your presentations. Thanks for taking the time to go into more detail on the burner. Sounds to me like you are coming out ahead with the heating costs. Way to go! Nice video my man.
looks good Mr. Siegler.....thanks for sharing.
@KipSieglerFarming1
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Thanks for watching
Love your wood heat/water setup. Thanks for sharing. God bless! ❤🙏🏻🇺🇸
@KipSieglerFarming1
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Thank you!
Very informative. Your site popped up when I finished a video. Nice site. Thanks for the video.
We heat our house in Calgary to 68° F. We turn it down at night to 66° F. Our utility company says that we are not energy efficient compared to the "average" home in our area. Some friends keep their homes at 74° F. We use natural gas. Our furnace is a mid range efficient furnace. It was a new furnace in 2008. The furnace people told us how much we would save. That was a salesman talking. He told us how we would even save electricity because of the DC motor. I have kept the utility bills since our house was new. You cannot see any difference since the furnace was changed. Some fast talking sales people say that we need to change our windows so we can get the full advantage of changing the furnace. . . . pardon me but, the farmer just hauled another load away. . . . and it wasn't wood. Thank you for sharing your heating system with us. 😊
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I live in Western Iowa. I have a 2300 sq ft log home. 8 inch log walls. I have geothermal for my primary heat and a fireplace that I use when it gets really cold.
Thanks for another great video. It was interesting and enjoyable. Thanks for the rundown on your wood system. That was very interesting how you handle the wood and use your burner. Looks like you are doing good verus your cost factor. Doing good I think. Your shop and house are big so not bad on cost. All for now Kip. You take care and be safe. Enjoyed your video Kip. Very good. Thanks for everything Kip. The Iowa Farm Boy.
Watching your video, drinking coffee (with milk), planning my day on the farm. Been wet here in South Carolina. Finally a little dryer here, may be able to get some tillage done today. Good info on your heating system. I need a setup like that on our greenhouses. Fuel oil prices are nuts.
Looks like that heater is doing its job , hope you and all the family are doing good . Y'all stay safe and God bless y'all .
@KipSieglerFarming1
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I agree. I spend $400-500 on electric and some gas to run a boiler. We keep it at 68 and we have some rooms shut off with no heat. and plastic on windows. my home is big like yours. If i did this it would be more work but save money. At least you dont have to split it and that saves you more time and money! You son is going to be a great helper!
Great video, thanks for sharing all those details.
Yooper here, I'm ordering 4400 next week. I'm done with losing all that money every winter for propane.
Husky is the only saw in my book . My grandfather was a firewood logger for years . Thats the only saws he had . In fact he ran over one once with his delivery truck lol and I still have that saw today and cut with it all the time lol .
My folks and I used to heat with wood years ago. We had stoves in our houses but after awhile when you get older it fades out. My dad and I used to start cutting firewood Labor Day weekend up by White River. A pickup truck full every weekend till November 15th then it was deer hunting time. We had 2 chain saws and a 4 ton gasoline powered wood splitter. It was work, but we loved doing it because we were in the woods where we deer hunt. It's quite evident that you need that outdoor wood furnace. I know about propane, it's ungodly expensive. I had a house that used it and I hated it. Now I'm back with natural gas, thank you Lord. Hang in there Kip, God Bless everyone.
I like heating with wood. Like you said it's a good workout. My brother has lived in northern Minnesota 40 years and is on his 3rd wood boiler like yours. What I like about them is it keeps all the mess from the wood and the inherit dangers and health affects from burning wood out of the house.
Very nice setup with the wood and heater! Great videos and content. Truly appreciated. All the best from China.
Interesting video Thanks Kip. We use natural gas and keep temp at 72 day 65 nights.👍👍
Kip I use that same saw in my firewood business please wear ear protection when cutting.
Thanks for sharing your vid with us
Let me start by saying? Thanks for the invite to your home. We heated with wood when we farmed to. But I live in the city now... with the city doesn't aloud wood heat.. wish it did. I miss the feel of wood heat
North Central mn. Have a Heatmoor out door boiler heating a 28×68 manufactured home. Been running it 16 years and keep the house around 70. Usually have enough of my own wood but have bought a little here and there. It's work but that stove has paid for itself I bet 8 years ago compared to what we were paying for propane. Take care Kip and family
I lived in Upper Peninsula in a two story wood framed house early 90's when I got out of the Navy 🥶. Had to get on a year payment plan just to be able to afford the monthly bill. It was a major expense back then. Can't imagine what it would be nowadays. We were paying more than $1600 a year way back then. Take care, God bless and hope your New Year is going well. John here, from the back-roads of Northeastern Tennessee.
We have a wood fired furnace with electric backup and cut the wood ourselves. Thanks for the video
57 Cadillac in front of the house 👍🏻
I have a grapple that goes on my pallet forks on my skid steer. It's nice cuz a grab a few logs then can keep the logs off the ground as I cut. Helps on the back too 🤣
Good Dad priority’s straight! God bless you and your family ❤
Great video, very interesting and full of information that I did not know.
Great video. Very informative👍👍
Great video Kip . LP down south (Hillsdale county) $ 1.90 @ gal Keep our old house 70/71 1200 square feet plus hot water 650 gallons @ year. Needs insulation.
I have a neighbor with a similar system ,he has his in a heated leanto next to his shop, he says if its about 10 or above the heat coming off the outside of the burner pretty much heats the shop, and he also heats two houses with it.His burner is on cement,and for the big pieces of wood he made a dolly with forks and some kind of wench that he can pick them up and put them right in the door of the burner,he just has to push it off, I know those units are insulated,but sometime point an inferred gun on the outside of the burner to see the heat loss
It works for you,more power to ya!! Just watch the back young man. Might get a small jib crane😂😂 to put wood in stove. Thanks so much.
There's a baby in the house, 74 degrees indicates a loving father.
We just put in a automatic generator here in Maine, not just for me but the Wife. Only one thing more,chaps saved my leg.
70 degrees with a wood stove vs 70 with gas heat is a huge difference by the feel. The wood is nice heat. And what I do to try and save time is I haul logs on my goodness then take it home and unload it. Seems better than going and getting a truck load at a time
Killer setup…I put them little heaters in mech rooms of schools in Ky,va…soon as I seen it and copper lines I was transformed right to work lol…tree man by heart..plumbin to lay the bills.
Heating with wood is really all I know. We have a big spider wood furnace in the basement. It's probably about 100 years old. Most everyone around us has outdoor boiler units. Have had it for years.
Hair cut buddy. Lol. Have a good one kip. Keep up the videos. Don't ever stop. Look forward to your videos the way the world is. Have something to look forward to. Thanks
Absolutely very good furnace 💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪
I had an LP Lennox pulse furnace at one time. I threw it in the junk pile. It used more electricity to power the fan than LP. It was a joke! Been burning wood in my WOODMASTER ever since.
Like them wood burners unfortunately I live within a city can’t have them, my house is old 1923 I burn # 2 oil in a we’ll maintained tankless boiler from 1978, keep the house at 68 usually around $2500 a year in oil, this year twice that, we heat from November to may must years, outside NYC love watching your channel.
I grew up on propane and you always dreaded to see that bill from the propane man in the storm door!
@KipSieglerFarming1
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I remember that
Thanks for the video. Thats AWESOME how u got everything setup. I bet your shop Is very comfortable. Of topic question for ya lol. The 5 stave silos u got was there 6 before i see a round pad there or is another one going up?? Thanks again kip for the amazing videos as always and have a good one.
@KipSieglerFarming1
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That was where our grain bin sat, we had to move it a few years back
Love my outdoor wood boiler… the only thing I would say is if you decide to buy another one get a gasification boiler they reburn the smoke and get twice as much heat from less wood yet, they don’t smoke at all. It’s looks like blast furnaces in the bottom with insanely high temps of 2,000° to incinerator the wood. Lol
Put a bark box on that saw Kip you will like it.
Hey there Kip! Our farm is New Brunswick Canada we heat with a wood stove and forced air oil furnace. We’re Thinking about going this direction. I’m looking at brand called central boiler, furnace hooks up to wifi and sends you alerts about the furnace. Price of dyed diesel 8.50 gallon aka furnace oil. Can get expensive in a cold winter
@KipSieglerFarming1
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17768 Pa. Same climate as yours.2700 sq ft home. Middle of a field, not a tree around. Wind wails all year. I should get a windmill lol. I did what you did. Now,,, I do not get a work out. I MISS the smell of wood! I bought a 1000 gallon propane tank. I pay cash for everything. I just paid $1.66 a gallon last week. That will put us through the winter. So figure $ 1800 a year. Obviously, I spend every second that you spend doing wood in ANY way,,, with my family. If I was YOU, I would be doing exactly what you are doing!! Nice video Kip. God bless bud.
I put in my King pellet stove this year that was sitting in the shop and it is cheaper heating our 1600 sq ft home. our last year gas bill was over $2600. We could not do that this year again.
Seems very reasonable considering the size of your outbuilding. Enjoy those kids while they are there..they soon fly the coop.
There’s nothing like wood heat!!! God bless!
I go by your farm all the time. U hang in there.
For the guy that has fence lines to clean up a woods and so on yes it's a good idea but if you have to buy it then it could be questionable!
Hey buddy , Im south of u 60 mils or so , I burn just like u , My house 3300 sq ft and shop 2700 sq ft i go threw alot of wood every yr about 40 face coard dont have no gas of any kind lol , im 59 and I love cutting wood keeps u healthy, love your video try and watch them all , im a little farmer guy i have beef cows and have a ton of chickens , i love farming grow all kinds of thing , love ya buddy God bless
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@kevinquednau4064
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@@KipSieglerFarming1 in the spring I would love to come help u guys with the planting u know what im saying
It would be worth either building a hoist, or making room to get your skidder in there with a bucket for loading those big pieces. One slipped disk or blown knee will more than offset your savings for years to come. PEX in the floor would be great. It's not that expensive or hard to install if you're building new. The thermal mass of the concrete can't be beat. Recovery time after opening an overhead door seems almost instantaneous. I do a similar process for my indoor add on wood furnace. Only difference is that I cut all of my own. I use a 13k winch and an arch to get the logs on my equipment trailer, drag them off with my tractor (loader), then stack the logs on RR ties until I want to burn it. Bring them up to the house with the loader cut and split them and drop them into the basement ready to burn.
Got about 10 cords free on cragislist. ...maple. just had to drop a few trees and make sure I cleaned up the area for the owner of the property.
thats awesome!
Have you ever done a moisture test when you cut the pieces? I have the same style setup as you but I have a plate exchanger on my water tank and my water tank never comes on during the months I'm using my wood boiler.
you should get or make a upside down skid steer wood splitter to at least half if not quarter the bigger pieces would make it much easier to load
Nice gig
Heating them old is like heating a corn crib!🤣Old timers always said put your stove in the northwest corner of the house, and you could heat the whole house! 57 Oldsmobile Rocket? So, you have an open system? I help my Bro. with his outside furnace!
@KipSieglerFarming1
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Yes, is that a rocket
My house is 3140 sq ft and i heat on nothing but propane and have a 1000 gallon tank that i only fill once a year and keep the house at 72 degrees during the day and it drops to 68 at night i like the bedroom cool at night, sometimes i have a little left and other times it runs close so depending on the cost of propane in the 18 years living here it has been a low of $700 to a high of $1500 a year, but i built the house myself and made sure to insulated very well, this is in north west Ohio
you are right at 134$ a month for wood.. that's not bad at all, cheaper than me and I live in the TVA area so electicy is not to bad, but I avg 180~$ for close to same sq feet
Great information Kip. Thanks for sharing. Who do you buy your wood from?
@KipSieglerFarming1
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Mikes logging
We had a non speaker in our family, his development was absolutly normal, but he just did not want to speak when others at his age spoke already sentences. His parents did not push him, but one day his grandmother asked him, why he does not say anything. His answer was: What do you want to know, granny?
Do you think the wood burns just as efficiently not being split? We always split the wood for our stove, just always figured it'd burn better with having a open face.
1600 for 7 cord of wood cut split and delivered. Have a newer wood boiler heat master. Wood lasts November till March
@KipSieglerFarming1
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Awesome I burn 6tons bagged pellets stacked in the basement in Minnesota…. Awesome family
Hey kip how long that wood last when you load your stove
The only issue our government and particularly my state (NY) , is trying the get rid of all sources to heat and cook except electricity. It is crazy.lol
@KipSieglerFarming1
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Yes that’s nuts
I had one of them husqvarna's when I worked in the woods put a 32-in bar on that baby and you can really cut one and it's a lot easier on your back you're not bending over so much
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Nice video but the wood master 4400 is one of the least efficient boilers on the market. If you're going to get something make sure it has a multipass heat exchanger
Having the equipment is a huge benefit for burning wood makes lighter work of it that’s for sure.
Nice video which brings out the negatives. I want to see your dad loading the wood burner like you. Hahahaha. I'm over 75 and things ain't the same when ya a young buck. I still drink over a half-gallon of milk per day. How about you? The dairy processors are crap. My Kroger and Borden milk in Texas will go bad before the "use before date." I miss raw milk. It don't hurt taking a probiotic. Eaglegards...
@KipSieglerFarming1
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Best comment in a while!
Why don't you use a 2 stage thermostat ? Run that fan off the first stage then set the difference of temp you want for the second stage to fire the gas.
Good thinking with the wood stove. Propane would cost you a fortune!
Hey Kip just curious what size propane tank you have there? I’m getting my boiler installed now and don’t want to pay rental on the 1,000 tank after this year if it isn’t necessary. I will still use some propane for hot water heater, cook stove, and fireplace possibly. Thanks
@KipSieglerFarming1
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I think it’s 100 gallon should be all you need
@brandoncolen8440
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@@KipSieglerFarming1 thanks
How long does a stove load last.
For 28 yrs I've been heating with my fire place I burn lots of wood pallets and dead trees just wish i could figure out a way to heat my hot water heaters my back up is hydro heat which already has a radiator ya would think i could figure out how to run a pipe from my fireplace to those two units any thoughts from anyone thanks.
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Why not have glycol run through your lines? Thata what we did in our system and we live in western Canada
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We run water down here in the US cause glycol isn’t necessary. The water won’t freeze in 10 to 12 hours. Also the heat exchanger works both ways it can keep the stove water warm if the fire goes out. It also helps we get around 3 to 5 days of below (0 F) nights here where I live as well instead of 30 or 40 days like Canada does.
I know how it is with a drafty house gotta have it at 72-73 for it to feel 68-69
@KipSieglerFarming1
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That’s it
Heating Area: 5,000 sq.ft.
I burned wood for years.With all the money i saved i bouight a house in arizona.
Those are big chunks of wood
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What a waste ,,,,,, Its a good thing every one doesnt burn that much wood .....
@KipSieglerFarming1
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Thanks for watching bud👍
@crandonborth
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I’ll be honest that’s not that much wood… we hear a house and a 7,000 square foot shop and that would last bought 2 months. You do realize tree grow back right??? And plus he said it was going to throw out cause it didn’t make grade at the lumber yard anyway.
Looking at the 4400 specs it will heat 5000 sq ft
@KipSieglerFarming1
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Good deal