If that 'scratch that reverse' line that doesn't turn into an epic willa wonka rap, I will be greatly disappointed.

@zeepsterd

9 ай бұрын

Okay, that would make this movie worth it.

@WindyHiII

9 ай бұрын

when they Wonka on the willy

@CharleyGurl

9 ай бұрын

It's a full song in the stage version.

@PeterParker-ff7ub

9 ай бұрын

it's better not to ruin it.

@EdwardRose-ho3dd

9 ай бұрын

It's gonna be a movie great...strike that. Reverse it.

The problem with Wonka I can see from the trailer is its dishonesty... we all know the archetype of wonka and he would not have got started making chocolate to honour his dead mommy or to stick it to the bullies in the chocolate guild or to help plucky orphan girls ... wonka is a morally ambivalent artistic genius auter his factory is a monument to his EGO his name is literally on the packaging ... theyre scared to make wonka a little evil, a big personality ...

@invalidopinion5384

9 ай бұрын

Exact same thing with the Oz movies. You take this eccentric, somewhat mysterious, somewhat morally ambiguous character, strip all that interesting stuff out of them- preserving only the surface level stuff that audiences recognise- and in place of that you put in a sappy backstory, bland love interest, stock-standard hero-villain dynamic, etc. And of course, you overexplain the origin of every little thing the audience might recognise and throw in some self-aware jokes about how silly this all is for good measure. This ain't gonna be a movie about Wonka, it's gonna be a movie about a scrappy misunderstood youngster pulling himself up by his bootstraps - the type of bullshit story an actual ceo might tell you

@celebalert5616

9 ай бұрын

@@invalidopinion5384 I totally forgot about that movie but yeah its almost exactly the same dynamic damn

@shocktun3s729

7 ай бұрын

The 2005 adaptation had a way better backstory.

@celebalert5616

7 ай бұрын

@@shocktun3s729 yes I know , I wrote that movie, and I also starred in it 😌 thank you for reminding me of that

@robbiewalker2831

6 ай бұрын

@@shocktun3s729 YES! Thank you! Someone speaking my language about how this prequel film is very pointless.

They forget that Charlie Bucket is the ACTUAL Protagonist, not his Predecessor.

@RKingis

4 ай бұрын

The movie was basically a candy ad, roald Dahl hated it. I read the book first, before watching it, and it was disappointing.

@Attmay

3 ай бұрын

@@RKingisRoald Dahl was an asshole. He hated the movie because of all the Jews involved with it. That movie is the only reason anyone cares. Dahl’s work is only tolerable when filtered through the lens of those he hated.

Funny you mention that they may as well make a Wonka sequel because... There was actually a sequel to the original book: 1972's Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator. And nobody read it because of the whole "Why read the book when I can wait for the movie instead" mentality that I'll never understand

@glucosefructose

9 ай бұрын

Something people either forget or never realize but a lot of iconic Hollywood movies are based off books. And Roald Dahl wrote some amazing books.

@UncommonCriticisms2147

9 ай бұрын

@@glucosefructose Pretty much. It's like Peter Pan. Because the Disney version became so engraved into Pop Culture, that's the one people cling to most. Nobody knows/cares that they're technically based on books or if there's a genuine book to on-screen media adaptation that's mostly faithful to the source material (and there is: The Fox Cartoon Peter Pan and the Pirates). Forrest Gump may have been one of the feel-good movies to define the 90s, but hardly anybody knows that it was originally a very cynical book let alone its over the top sequel that makes David Lynch movies make sense. Oh hell, The Wizard of Oz is another example. The 1939 MGM Vaudeville Musical is so definitive, it's pretty much erased every form of Oz media from the spotlight, even the original books (and those books were very well written and ahead of their time). Even Return to Oz (which followed as close to L. Frank Baum's vision of the Oz Universe as possible) doesn't get much love because it's dismissed as dark and creepy (and it marked the only time Disney took very few creative liberties. And considering their track record, that's saying a lot) Then there's M*A*S*H. Everybody knows that was a TV show, few people know it was a movie before that, and nobody knows it was originally a book (and that's to the world's loss)

@Lochlann-Nl

9 ай бұрын

People watch the movies first and then read the book!?!?!

@UncommonCriticisms2147

9 ай бұрын

@@Lochlann-Nl Not necessarily. Hell, I read Dune before seeing any of the Dune movies. Same with Harry Potter when that was just becoming popular (to be fair, it was also before they turned it into movies). My parents are the same. For instance, in the 1990s when Stephen King media was that niche thing hardly anyone talked about outside of movie adaptations of his works, he released his book serial The Green Mile. My parents read the entirety of that (even once fought over one of the books like a couple of 12 year old kids) years before Hollywood invented the movie adaptation. The only times I ever saw the movie before reading the book happened with MASH and Rollerball (yes, that was originally a book too. Actually, it was a short story in Esquire Magazines in 1973 but later got rereleased as a stand-alone book when the movie came out in 1975).

@TheRandompaint

9 ай бұрын

It was also a really weird book with aliens and a space hotel😂

I LOVE the remake but I am literally not interested at all in getting to know how Willy Wonka became so famous and made such a big factory, not knowing that was part of the magic of the universe.

@UncommonCriticisms2147

9 ай бұрын

Tell that to the soulless Hollywood Executives who made the film because the origin story trope is in full swing and has been for years

@serily4524

5 ай бұрын

"i love the remake" you are disgrace to the original willy wonka movies and you should be ashamed you are supporting this kind of degenerate trash movies that only spit on the original, get some real standards for quality loser

nothing against a prequel, but this just feels like a Fantastic Beasts movie. I feel like this movie was written by AI. The whole point of the world of the movies is that Wonka's a bizarre candy creator in a normal world a not a magical candy maker in some harry potter knockoff

The 2005 one isn’t even a remake. It’s another adaptation of the book, but it’s *NOT* a remake of the 1971 Wonka film.

@Attmay

3 ай бұрын

The Tom and Jerry version is. It’s literally a shot-for-shot animated version with a cat and a mouse shoehorned in.

They could actually have made "Charlie and the Glass Elevator", which is an actual sequel written by Roald Dahl.

@The-Opium-Den

9 ай бұрын

Too bad Roald Dahl refused to sell the rights to the sequel when the original movie starring Gene Wilder displeased him greatly. That's the real reason Hollywood doesn't adapt the sequel. They'd have to persuade whoever is in charge of his estate to sell the rights.

@duckymomo7935

4 ай бұрын

Sequel was bad as a book and making it into a movie is gonna be even worse

@Attmay

3 ай бұрын

@@duckymomo7935I’m tired of Hollywood adapting the works of bigots for the screen. Leave Roald Dahl behind for Oscar Wilde. At least you don’t have to pay royalties to his estate!

Instead of prequel I think it would have been cool if we completed a Charlie Bucket trilogy by having the third planned book Charlie in the White House come to the big screen.

The necessity of Prequel is the same as the necessity of Sequels. It should serve to answer questions within the narrative through a new installment. The difference is that a sequel explains the effect, the consequence of the preceding event and changing the world. In this case, the question is, "What does it cause?". While a prequel explains the cause by recontextualizing the following event, and changing how we see the world. In this case, the question is "Why did it happen?" The problem is most films do not use prequels for this purpose, it's ultimately just a way for a fan favorite character retroactively to have more screen time when they cannot appear in the succeeding film.

@UncommonCriticisms2147

9 ай бұрын

Doesn't change the fact that there are types of prequel media unnecessary. Wonka being one of those examples. I mean by that logic, let's give Barney the Purple Dinosaur, Teddy Ruxpin, the Blue Meanies from Yellow Submarine, Doc Brown, Pee-Wee Herman, and Elmo their own origin stories while we're at it 🙄

Wonka is the CEO to be like, "Sure. I'll psychologically scar these kids to keep up my legacy."

@ShootyMcBirb

9 ай бұрын

To be fair, some of them got scarred physically.

The fact that the Johnny Depp movie used real squirrels cracking nuts is crazy.

@lastmonarchistproduction_253

6 ай бұрын

it's mainly cgi

@RKingis

4 ай бұрын

Definitely more true to the book for sure!

Didn't we get multiple flashbacks of Wonka's past in the Tim Burton version? What gave the team the idea to make a whole movie about Wily Wonka's uprising?

@user-yj3rg5mm6u

9 ай бұрын

Money

@UncommonCriticisms2147

9 ай бұрын

Money. And the fact that Hollywood loves giving your average fandom communities Origin Story Tropes (despite those being done to death)

@shocktun3s729

7 ай бұрын

Tim Burton actually did Wonka's backstory good... and for some reason they still decided to give the 1971 version a backstory as well.

@duckymomo7935

4 ай бұрын

I mean even then They also added black people to 1800s England

@sontho6995

3 ай бұрын

​@@duckymomo7935Black people were in england, you allergic to research or something?

''All aboard the lack of originality'' Literally the embodiment of Hollywood.

@joonasrikkonen7355

9 ай бұрын

I just leave an answer here to let everyone know that this is a bot that steals comments using multi-account bot on different popular channels like Zeepsterd, Penguinz0, Markiplier, Saperpark, among others. (Count of how many times I leave this comment: 1)

@UncommonCriticisms2147

9 ай бұрын

Fun fact: Hollywood never had any original ideas even when it was first invented. Hell, all them famous Horror Movies we have now like Chucky and Freddy and Jason and Scream and all them, those ideas were ripped off from Japanese Monster Films from the 1970s. All the famous Comedy Movies that made the 80s and 90s, just rip-offs of B-Comedy Films from the 1920s and 30s (with the difference being the 80s and 90s films are laden with poo poo jokes while the ones from the 30s couldn't get away with those). And don't get me started on Indiana Jones and Star Wars being every obscure cliffhanger serial redone and made simplistic for the average viewer. Point is, Hollywood doesn't have originality (the way them hipster indie film directors in Portland and Los Angeles do). They just don't want to admit it to anyone because the blind ignorance of the average person is how big Hollywood executives get rich(er)

@mask82-uh4pm

9 ай бұрын

​@@UncommonCriticisms2147True, Hollywood has never had an original idea, but nowadays movie scripts are terribly written. I think there is a better way to tell the story of sequels on Ao3 than in Hollywood

@UncommonCriticisms2147

9 ай бұрын

@@mask82-uh4pm Movie scripts were just as bad in the 80s and 90s. For instance, you had incest in Back to the Future (ew). The Breakfast Club was nothing but teenagers dinking around in a school library for 90 minutes (yawn!). Overboard's plot aged like milk, but nobody is ready for that discussion (and never will be ready for that discussion). And don't get me started on Jim Carrey, Adam Sandler, and/or Mike Myers movies in the 90s and early 2000s (all their films were, were just repetitive obnoxious shtick meant to comfort the average idiot. You've seen one film from any of those big-name celebrities, you've pretty much seen all of them). Sure, you occasionally had brilliant ideas (mostly in films nobody wanted to watch) but that was neither here nor there in the mainstream (and even when it was, it hardly was). I've seen better (and more original) ideas come out of a vandalized port-o-crapper in a homeless meth park.

@mask82-uh4pm

9 ай бұрын

@@UncommonCriticisms2147 Yes, but those 80's and 90's movies were fun to watch, even star wars didn't have a good script. But today it is much worse and worse, I think less and less films they have 35 or more dialogues in movies

I'm going to paraphrase Patton Oswalt's analogy about movie prequels here - "Do you like chocolate? Well here's a big bag of cocoa powder - when you add milk and sugar it'll be chocolate." "I DON'T GIVE A S*** WHERE THE STUFF I LOVE COMES FROM, I LOVE THE STUFF I LOVE!"

@Attmay

3 ай бұрын

For a guy with the same body type as Elliott the dragon, I’m not surprised he said that.

I can't wait for the Zeepsterd movie to come out and it's just called 'Zeep'.

@zeepsterd

9 ай бұрын

I want Adam Sandler to play me.

In the docuseries 1982: Greatest Geek Year Ever, Dean Devlin said he wrote a script and people kept telling him it was great but nobody would pick it up. Frustrated, he finally asked why, and someone said it was because it wasn’t based on anything. “But my movie Independence Day wasn’t based on something,” he said. “I wouldn’t make Independence Day today unless you called it War of the Worlds” was the reply.

Solo also failed because of Last Jedi. Like, Solo has A LOT of problems since it's a fan film with a multi million dollar budget, but people like my dad were so put off by TLJ that they said "I'm not watching Star Wars again."

Wonka was a recluse, if he really had friends, they'll NEED to betray him or disappear by the end, and it has to hurt enough for him to never talk to people again. I doubt they care about the original source material though.

I feel like some stories are better not knowing.

To be honest I think there could be reason for a wonka prequel considering all the theories of him being a slave owner or serial killer

As for "doing something Wonka," there is a sequel book that is full of the same energy as the first.

@UncommonCriticisms2147

9 ай бұрын

Yeah, but nobody's read it. You gotta remember, we live in a society of "Why read the book? I'll wait for the movie instead!" illiteracy mentality.

@catholiccontriversy

9 ай бұрын

@@UncommonCriticisms2147 almost all the more reason to make a movie out of it. Now more people will know about it and when the certain cuts have to be made to condense it into a 1.5-2.5 hour movie people will find it.

If Wonka is well done. That would be nice but I do hope original ideas get a comeback and are actually well advertised. Honestly at this point, I’ve had thoughts of doing a story with original characters and selling it as a novel. That way, I could at least have it adapted into a cartoon if it takes off.

@UncommonCriticisms2147

9 ай бұрын

There are original movies (not just them hipsters in Portland and Los Angeles making Indie Films neither) being made but nobody goes to see them.

@UncommonCriticisms2147

9 ай бұрын

On that note, Hollywood has never had any original ideas. All the movie's they've done for years have typically come from other people's ideas. All the famous Horror movies like Freddy and Chucky and Jason and all them. They were all ripped off from Japanese Monster Movies from the 50s through 70s. And all the famous repetitive shtick Comedy movies of the 90s and 2000s like Adam Sandler and Jim Carrey, those movies stole their ideas from B-Comedy Movies and old Three Stooges Shorts from the 1930s (with the difference being the B-Comedy Movies and Stooges Shorts didn't have forced toilet humour like the 90s and 2000s ones did). And then there's George Lucas and Steven Spielberg Blockbusters. Those were just every Cliffhanger Serial of the 30s and 40s condensed into something more simplistic and accessible for the average viewer. Point is, Hollywood has been giving people the same thing for years but won't admit it because blind ignorance of the average person is how big Hollywood Executives make their money.

One of the best prequels is Monsters University

@TradingCardsAndMore

9 ай бұрын

Very true

Yea I really don’t like how there won’t be a fat boy getting stuck in a chocolate tube that automatically makes this one the worst.

It’s being done by the guy who did the first two Paddington films, so I have faith for this one .

@Boobeinstein

9 ай бұрын

Yeah but have you seen the main actor's acting in the trailer? Poor casting choice.

@rosefandom285

7 ай бұрын

Exactly! Love the Paddington movies

@rosefandom285

7 ай бұрын

@@Boobeinsteinit’s just a trailer… and that actor is an Oscar/golden globe/ Bafta nominee and very lauded in Hollywood so maybe have a little faith.

@Attmay

3 ай бұрын

@@rosefandom285Those don’t have anyone from that N@z¡ p3d0 movie.

@Attmay

3 ай бұрын

@@rosefandom285Appeal to authority is a logical fallacy. The people who give out awards for movies have no idea how to distinguish a good one from a poor one. If they did, nobody ever would’ve heard of this nobody. He’s ugly, he looks malnourished which makes him miscast as a candy man, and worst of all, he cannot act.

Tbh we had plenty of (pretty logical) backstory in the Tim Burton film. It just makes sense! Like Willy Wonka became a Candy maker just because he wasnt allowed to eat any, by his absolutely strict dentist dad... He watched candy literally getting burned infront of him. So many kids that are strictly not allowed by their parents to do some certain things end up doing them just to piss of their parents, or please their younger selves! Seeing a longer version of that backstory would be so much more enjoyable. For example what happened to him and his dad relationship afterwards, or how did he managed to build his "empire" company etc... Also, I think the Paddington type of humor that i saw in the movie doesnt fit his character at all. He doesnt act, speak or do things as you know Willy Wonka would normally do. Like yeah, he is a dreamer but he doesnt care about others dreams! Yeah he wants to make solutions to help kids in povetry (in the 1st film), but he is aslo the one causing them by firing all of his workers and closing his company! He is simply a capitalist and he doesnt give a single f about orphans! I know this is supposed to be him before his adulthood but i dont think he ever was that much caring and nice, and suddenly one day he became weird! His name, Wonka comes from the word wonky that means weird!

@Attmay

3 ай бұрын

Except the dentist was right in the real world which makes it all wrong for the movie.

We live in a Godless world

I went to an elementary school built in the 50s and the school library had an first edition Charlie and the chocolate factory book, I read it and wonka is a short generous abstract man in his later age anyway I only realized that the book was a first edition because it was brown and old and that’s not until a few years ago I saw a video explaining that the first editions are worth thousands I was like 🙀, worse part they demolished the original section of the school including the library I have no clue if it was moved to the new section or not

It looks like they're trying to cram WW into a Harry Potter mold. And who is the audience they think is going to watch it? Fans of the books probably won't, fans of the movies probably won't. I'd almost rather watch Tom and Jerry's Willy Wonka because at least that has its own kind of insanity, this just looks like they're trying to erase all that.

@firstsonofthesea7938

9 ай бұрын

Kids who didn’t see the older ones and Harry Potter is a completely different movie there is no mold

@CinnamonGrrlErin1

9 ай бұрын

​@firstsonofthesea7938 the Gene Wilder movie is a classic, people have been showing it to their kids for decades. Even the Johnny Depp one has a significant fan base and the backstory they used there made a lot of sense for the character. The books have never gone out of print in the last 50+ years and have been read by millions of people. This prequel doesn't offer anything of value to the character, it won't improve or build on what's already out there, because it can't. Visually, it looks like it was filmed at the HP world at Universal Studios. It looks like a cheap and lazy attempt to try to appeal to the demographic of people who go to see HP and similar movies. What exactly about this trailer and description appeal to you though? Please describe in full and precise detail what you find attractive or watchable about this movie.

@firstsonofthesea7938

9 ай бұрын

@@CinnamonGrrlErin1 who gives a fuck about building on the character this isn’t an anime or game of thrones its an hour movie that tells a fun story nobody cares about that stupid shit and the only reason you mentioned Harry Potter is because you know its got the same producers and Harry Potter was a continuation not a short story about a chocolate factory

Great Video!

This movie shameful for Hugh grant to be portraying someone with dwarfism when he clearly isn’t . This literally no different from blackface and , he should truly be ashamed of himself . All those actors will burn in hell

@conradojavier7547

6 ай бұрын

It's Practically a Modern Day Blackface with Women doing Manface(AKA Girlboss).

@Attmay

3 ай бұрын

It’s not like Emmanuel Lewis was busy!

This is a video. Go on, laugh

im a willy wonka superfan lol i grew up watching the 1971 movie with gene wilder and watched it daily as a child this prequel is a disgrace man nobody is willy wonka other than gene wilder no gene there is no willy wonka i definitely will be avoiding this movie

Warner bros discovery is getting very desperate. Theyre running out of profitable movies, and with as much budget cutting and debt they have to deal with, I think it's safe to say the company won't last very long.

@UncommonCriticisms2147

9 ай бұрын

They've been out of original ideas for years. All the classics they made that dominated each decade all came from either books, B-Movies, or foreign films nobody wants to watch

@Attmay

3 ай бұрын

They are cooking the books on Barbie and Wonka to cover up for their billions of dollars that they are hemorrhaging in losses. It’s like two *Springtime for Hitlers* for the price of one!

I cant wait for a origin story of Rafiki the Mandrill

@UncommonCriticisms2147

9 ай бұрын

As long as they show him learning "Up his ass, squashed bananas" like in the talking Lion King book from 1995

@Attmay

3 ай бұрын

I thought Charles Darwin already wrote that first.

Hold the fuck up. This movie is directed by Paul King, the guy who did Paddington and Paddington 2. I trust him with my life.

@Attmay

3 ай бұрын

I don’t if he cast the star of glorified k¡dd¡3 pr0n in this. That’s like casting Traci Lords as Pollyanna’s aunt.

My only reaction to this movie and trailer is: No.

@lastmonarchistproduction_253

9 ай бұрын

It’s made by the guy who made paddington

Probably not a popular opinion but personally I am excited cause I love new movies regardless of what people do say and then I’ll figure out my opinion after Plus I love Willy winks and the chocolate factory so it’s a win in my book even if it’s unnecessary

The trailer popped outta nowhere yesterday & I was like, "WTF IS THIS???"

You know who could have sold that line better? Daniel Radcliffe! He has a talent for playing Weird Quirky characters.

@Attmay

3 ай бұрын

Not after he attacked JK Rowling. I won’t watch the Harry Potter movies because of him and I’m glad they are pushing the reboot button on it.

This movie can’t be terrible if it’s coming from the guy who made the paddington movies

@Help-dn9fy

6 ай бұрын

Yeah but Paddington humor doesnt fit Willy Wonka at all...Wonka is a sarcastic guy with 0 communication skills, making dark and bad jokes infront of kids. When I saw the tiny bits of basic ass humor in the trailer I could not recognize him!

@TheComicbookguy22

6 ай бұрын

@@Help-dn9fy yeah, still. Paddington was a good movie. Good directors don’t usually miss that much

Saw the trailer thought it looked cute but definitely looks very trope-y like the typical 'i wanna start shit but everyone is against me'

I have read the book and honestly the remake with Johnny Depp is more accurate to the book. People just have rose-colored glasses with the Gene Wilder version. I mean Gene Wilder's is more fun and makes the chocolate a lot more desirable but the remake is just more accurate to the book. Personally I like both versions for their own unique reasons but a prequel that is a totally original story and is not part of the book and has nothing to do with what the author intended is wholly unnecessary.

@UncommonCriticisms2147

9 ай бұрын

That's kind of the point with this prequel (besides the fact that Hollywood just loooooooooooooooooves doing the whole overly done Origin Story Trope as of the last 20+ years)

@Attmay

3 ай бұрын

Who cares about the book when the author was such a horrible person?

bro what is the song for the first part i forgot what it was

this aged well

The OG will always be my favorite!

I gotta say, the Cruella movie was an incredible movie regardless if the IP was there or not, but they were probably too scared to put it out as it's own thing. That is a big issue in the fanfiction community, people will use characters from famous franchises and then they'll replace their personality with something they created because otherwise no one would read their story. That's pretty much what Hollywood is doing to everything these days

@shawnotoole9195

9 ай бұрын

Cruella DeVille skins puppies to make fur coats, she's not a rebellious anti-hero type character whose mother was killed by Dalmatians. You can enjoy that movie, just don't act like changing her character was a good thing. Her name is CRUELla DEVILe, she's supposed to be EVIL!

@PeterParker-ff7ub

9 ай бұрын

that sucks

Epic

I wonder if this needed to go through Roald Dahls estate/wife first for approval or if it didn't need to. If it got approved I have a little confidence in it though the trailer doesn't look that bad

@CinnamonGrrlErin1

9 ай бұрын

I think Netflix owns the rights to his works now, unfortunately.

Why are people hating on this already. It looks like a good movie

@DTakeshi93

9 ай бұрын

Exactly

@sodaanimates4862

9 ай бұрын

I guess the internet is just at a point where anything can trigger them. (Especially twitter.)

@marc7248

9 ай бұрын

Did you comment before watching?

@skellybones5119

9 ай бұрын

@@marc7248 no i just hate that everyone is hating on this movie, i feel like this is a needed movie to actualy understand wonka. Most we got from his back story was in the depp version where his dad was a dentist

@firstsonofthesea7938

9 ай бұрын

I at least watch the movie first but people with no creativity are just entitled to lame opinions

Where does that "doh" sound at 0:27 come from?

@zeepsterd

9 ай бұрын

Super Mario 64!

yes i saw this and emeidetly went. Timothy? Really? You mean timothys supposed to play a lunatic outcast? Not only that but theyre also making it an origin story? Like honestly whats with this moneytrain riding stuff

Nobody asked for this movie but it’s directed by Paul King the GOAT so y’all need to have some faith god damn. Man has made two of the best films of all time back to back. Show him the respect he deserves and give him the benefit of the doubt that maybe this was just a badly made trailer which happens all the god damn time.

I think it looks amazing, why people bitch about something they haven't even seen just to get clicks...yawn.

I didn’t even know this existed.

@Attmay

3 ай бұрын

I envy you.

Just enjoyed this..its fun and heart warming..its Christmas..switch off..be entertained..just enjoy it without over thinking it! Kids loved it too😅 ..hooray!

I want to see it.

I don’t get it. When I was younger this was my favorite movie. The trailers don’t look that bad honestly. It’s not even out why you saying it’s bad😢It could be like lego movie and be good when everyone thought it was going to be bad

I actually need it so

People got to remember this Movie is of wonka when he is in his mid 20s and most of the movie has a modern Edwardain style 🤔

The first review from a critic said terrible, the next pretty good. The word Pretty usually translates as 'only just above average' or 'acceptable', which is common for the trend of remakes just for the sake of it. The main gripe some critics had was the actor playing Wonka being just your usual normal guy who's probably inherited the factory from his rich parents. Perhaps that ties in with today's reality tv and influencer generation quite well, who didn't start from scratch as they'd like you to think they did. The other versions of Wonka have been more unusual (trying to hard to ignore Depp's Michael Jackson Wonka) and an out of the ordinary darker character (Wilder). I've heard the book isn't as sickly sweet (pun intended) as this version may be either. Looking half the age of those in the previous roles won't help anyone take him seriously, but this seems to be the most family friendly version of the movie. Hugh Grant blocking out applications from actors with dwarfism in playing a notable part, is a questionable move. I think they were in too minds over whether to do it or not. They could not really win over the river of social media complaints that the print media take far too seriously in their search for controversy. If they allowed people with height issues to play a role, then people online would claim the Little People in the movie are being shamed and made fun of in their little costumes and Trumpesque makeup. Whereas if they block them all out with a big headed Hugh Grant, then the movie is shamed in not being liberal enough, not allowing disabled people to have a part in a major movie. Instead it has progressive undertones of trying hard not to offend -entitled social media users deemed woke hiding under an artificial self given label of progressive or liberal- . Yet people forget (ignore) the real minority in society who are severely limited in the media, the old and disabled. Those two encompass all, but the media is far too focused on ethnicity to care about being inclusive on that level.

But I want to see it though

Why does timothee chamalet sound like Jessie eisenburg it’s freaking me out

@Attmay

3 ай бұрын

Soy, high-fructose corn syrup, and forever chemicals

Movie looks like it'll be a fun time 🤷‍♂

@sodaanimates4862

9 ай бұрын

I agree

LOFTY THE OOMPA LOOPA

I liked oz

Joaquin Phoenix as Wonka

@Attmay

3 ай бұрын

Now that I could’ve gotten behind. Someone who could actually give the role a bit of danger once again. This is too coy and polished.

i actually disagree, I get it but i’m excited for the film. Call me what you want, but i’m a HUGE fan of the character and am excited to learn more.

@zeepsterd

9 ай бұрын

I'm glad you're excited! Hoping it exceeds any expectations.

@lastmonarchistproduction_253

9 ай бұрын

Do you forget it is being made by the guy who made paddington

@Attmay

3 ай бұрын

@@lastmonarchistproduction_253With the star of a n@z¡ p3d0 movie. That’s like opening a playground right next to a strip club.

Actually, the Tim Burton version is not actually a remake, it's an entirely separate movie from the 1970s version

@Attmay

3 ай бұрын

And it revealed why the original movie was right to make the changes it made. Roald Dahl is the weak link in everything he writes. Trying to be more faithful to his work only makes it worse, not better. Willy Wonka had no creator. He created himself.

@piretiris8223

3 ай бұрын

@@Attmay L take

👏🏻Stop 👏🏻 calling 👏🏻 Tim 👏🏻 Burton's 👏🏻 version 👏🏻 a 👏🏻 remake 👏🏻 of 👏🏻 the 👏🏻 Gene 👏🏻 Wilder 👏🏻 version 👏🏻

@Attmay

3 ай бұрын

Then stop defending it on the grounds that it’s more like the book and acknowledge that the book was the problem because the author of the book was the problem. It is a remake. They took a book that had already been made into a movie and made another movie out of it, hence the term remake being technically accurate. It is a remake of the book that ignores the original movie, but still makes up other stuff out of whole cloth because Boomers’ daddies didn’t love them enough. The irony is that Burton admitted he actually liked *Chitty Chitty Bang Bang* better even though that is even less faithful to its source material and had a screenplay that was written by Roald Dahl, since Ian Fleming had died. But *Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory* had an uncredited rewrite by David Seltzer, the writer/director of *Punch Line,* that gave it a much-needed sense of structure while still playing very much into the psychedelic ethos of the time visually.

The cruella prequel was amazing 3:30

Screw that colonial thrash book :P , no more dull remakes.

Another person who likes the remakeA

I can understand why they didnt, hell maybe he didnt even have interest, but ill Always be upset that its not jeremy allen white

Wonka was good 😁

While I agree that it's unnecessary, it genuinely does look pretty good...

@Attmay

3 ай бұрын

I find most modern movies look sterile. I hate how American movies have been getting uglier and uglier since the end of the 1960s, and none of the attempts to reverse that trend have come close to equaling the beauty that Hollywood created in the golden age.

“I could make a entire video about the remake” then do

The book being released along with it is Charlie and chocolate factory aswell.... I think the writers should stay in strike...

I find the whole origin story trope overrated (and have even before it became standard), but what do I know? I'm just a self-aware snooty hipster type (if you took away the ironically mainstream overtones they carried a few years back when Portlandia made them popular) who doesn't see the appeal in a lot of things everybody else likes. I know, I know, I need to get better tastes and shut up because nobody asked me 🙄 Having said that, my favourite origin story was Manos: The Rise of Torgo. That movie had everything: Bad acting, poor lip synching, Torgo eating nothing but his mom's fried chicken (and not gaining an ounce of weight for some reason), and the little girl who played Deborah in the original Manos movie all grown up and returned to play a Satanic deity. Too bad nobody watched it (let alone, knows of its existence) though. It was definitely one of the better films in recent years

@CinnamonGrrlErin1

9 ай бұрын

I liked that Torgo movie, but I've also been a huge MST3K fan for a very long time. I have a soft spot for the original Manos.

@UncommonCriticisms2147

9 ай бұрын

@@CinnamonGrrlErin1 I congratulate you. You're the first person I've come across to know about that Torgo movie. As for MST3k, unpopular opinion, but I hate that show and the fact that they wrongfully rip on movies that are actually good. I can think of a million films that deserve to be torn a new asshole but none of those films will be Public Domain until we're all dead (that and they're all either William Shatner movies or repetitive obnoxious shtick comedies with Adam Sandler and Jim Carrey in them). Having said that, I certainly never would have known about Manos if not for MST3k

I asked for this

I have a bunch of problems with this prequel, here they are. 1. Willy Wonka is not a character who needs a backstory. 2. This film feels like it has no passion, nor does it feel like the people behind it really care about the franchise. 3. If this is a prequel to Burton's Wonka, why are the Oompa Loompas depicted with Gene Wilder's version of Oompa Loompas? 4. Why are they not casting any dwarfs for the Oompa Loompas? If Gene can get a hold of many dwarfs just after the holocaust, then why can't Hollywood find any? We went from about 11 or 20 dwarfs, to 1 dwarf, know finally 0. Finally 5. Why do they have to make a joke about the Oompa Loompas singing and dancing? Do they really think that they are somehow better than the "silly" source material? God the egos on display is insulting. Check out just stop's video on Annie 2014 if you want a more in-depth version of reason 5.

@UncommonCriticisms2147

9 ай бұрын

Yeah well, that's Hollywood for you. The only reason they made this prequel is because... $$$ and lots of it to be made. That, and I don't how much you've been keeping up on current events but the origin story trope has been in major popularity for like 20+ years now: Dark Bader got one between 1999 and 2005 The Grinch got one in 2000 Clark Kent got one between 2001 and 2009 Wolverine got one in 2009 (a really crappy one but an origin story nonetheless) Monsters Inc got one in 2013 The Wizard of Oz got one in 2013 Bruce Wayne got one between 2014 and 2019 Torgo got one in 2018 Hans Solo got one in 2018 And the list goes on... Hollywood is going to keep on with the Origin Story Trope for as long as they can continue to milk it even after it falls out of cultural relevance. And nobody can say or do nothing about it because the average person only watches the same thing just to be entertained. Blind ignorance is how Hollywood Executives get rich(er). Only a matter of time before they're giving Doc Brown, Pee-Wee Herman, Barney the Dinosaur, Ren & Stimpy, Bozo the Clown, Teddy Ruxpin, The Muppets, and Deadpool their own origin stories whether necessary or not

@shawnotoole9195

9 ай бұрын

@@UncommonCriticisms2147 Deadpool and Batman already got origin story movies. (BTW i know about Gotham, but that was more an origin story for the Commish and others.)

@UncommonCriticisms2147

9 ай бұрын

@@shawnotoole9195 Huh... Didn't know Deadpool had an origin movie already (nor do I care). Honestly, it's hard to keep track of who has an origin movie anymore. That and all them comic book movies that spam up the big screen look alike to me. All they are are just billion dollar explosions, cringy lines that make The SuperFriends Power Hour look like freaking Rollerball, some overplayed Rock song and the ghost of Stan Lee in them. Rinse and repeat.

@CharleyGurl

9 ай бұрын

So, skip it. Y'all are tedious.

@shawnotoole9195

9 ай бұрын

@@UncommonCriticisms2147 You should give that Deadpool movie a chance, it's actually better than most superhero films that came out in recent years.

I'll watch it solely for the visuals because they look great.

W

Did they put a Chicken in it and made it lame?

@sandyduckman43

4 ай бұрын

I don't think there were any chickens in it 🤔

@Attmay

3 ай бұрын

I’d rather see a movie about Willy Wonka‘s brother Wally and his enchanted cattle ranch. Stop using movie musicals to promote carbs.

You will never replace him. You can give him the same lines, you can give him the same clothes, but you will never be him. He was the one and only Willy Wonka. Just remaster and re-release the original.

@Attmay

3 ай бұрын

They did. The 4K UHD version is probably the best looking version yet despite the lack of an original mono soundtrack and the failure to restore a missing line at the end of “I’ve Got a Golden Ticket.* It even restores the Paramount logo! If Warner and Paramount merge, then that movie will finally be home and so will *My Fair Lady,* a Warner Bros. picture CBS took back the rights to the underlying source material to seven years after it was made.

I’m excited for the movie it’s so whimsical :)

At least it's a prequel which means it'll have some originality to the story instead of just being another remake.

@Attmay

3 ай бұрын

Timmeh makes it unwatchable. I can’t even look at him. To vandalize one of my favorite movies this way again not only does not let the Johnny Depp version off the hook, it only makes me hate not only that but the book as well. At least Johnny Depp and Tim Burton made other things that were good. I wish the original movie had come first without having to suffer through the rantings of this bilious antisemite to get it. Same reason I wish we could get *The Jeffersons* without having to suffer through *All in the Family* first.

1:23 me...

I would watch timothee in anything. He is an absolutely amazing actor and a joy to behold. We are lucky to have him !!!!!!!

@Attmay

3 ай бұрын

He’s a talentless soyboy hack, and he rode to undeserved fame on the coattails of a criminal when they were both in a movie glorifying child abuse and anti-Semitism. He should have been canceled along with Armie Hammer. It’s not OK to like that movie and it’s not OK to like any movie by anybody involved with that movie. That leaves this out. The 10 Commandments of Movie Musicals I. Thou shalt have no Willy Wonkas besides Gene Wilder. II. Thou shalt have no Miss Hannigans besides Carol Burnett. III. Thou shalt have no Marias besides Natalie Wood. IV. Thou shalt have no Anna Leonowenses besides Deborah Kerr. V. Thou shalt not use autotune. VI. Thou shalt not leave key songs on the cutting room floor, especially when those songs are by the Sherman Brothers. VII. Thou shalt not make unto thee any movies out of shows by Andrew Lloyd Webber or Lin Manuel Miranda. Sondheim’s negotiable. VIII. Remember Judy Garland’s birthday to keep it holy. IX. Thou shalt not let Rob Marshall or Ryan Murphy remake anything. X. Thou shalt not remake musicals into non-musicals. Hello, *Pete’s Dragon.*

nah

Chocolate movie

I thought Tim Burton already did that

@UncommonCriticisms2147

9 ай бұрын

Apparently Hollywood didn't think his take was exciting enough. That and the only reason they made their own Wonka Origin Story is because money

Not the Wonka prequel, but there was another prequel in the works that just made me angry. Apparently there's talk about a prequel series for Jurassic Park, about John Hammond creating the park. And i just thought... why? What more can you get from this? What further important/interesting information could you glean from a prequel series that wasn't already told through the movies? And what could the conflict even be? Just him trying to make the park with his billions of dollars? A park that we already know will tremendously fail (multiple times, in fact)? There is no point to this besides getting a stranglehold on the current demographic's nostalgic and squeezing every last bit of money out of the Jurassic Park franchise's lifeless corpse. The Wonka trailer just made me tired, though. Only thing that made me mad was the CG oompa loompa.

@Darin_Tomlinson

9 ай бұрын

The Jurassic Park one is actually a good idea that you have misconstrued. It was about John Hammond prior to the parks with Isla Sorna and the ultimate creation of the first dinosaurs that would have been awesome.

@FuchsiaNeko

9 ай бұрын

@@Darin_Tomlinson I know what all it's about, I guess I didn't get that point across in my original comment bc it was late at night when I posted this and I was tired. Still (imo at least) I don't find the concept very interesting as I don't find Hammond himself interesting enough past what we've already seen in the films. Maybe it's just bc I'm tired of the Jurassic Park franchise as a whole at this point, but eh.

@Darin_Tomlinson

9 ай бұрын

@@FuchsiaNeko I personally would love to see that. It would actually take the franchise in a good direction away from the last two films and I would love to learn more about John Hammond.

@Attmay

3 ай бұрын

How ironic that that is what Ryan Murphy is threatening to do to *A Chorus Line* since most fans of the play hated what Richard Attenborough did with it as director of the movie. It wasn’t even his first musical, but unless you count a fake movie from the last *Naked Gun* movie, it sure was his last.

DEY GOTTA KEEP THEY HANDS OFF THE 2005 CHARLIE ND THA CHOC MOVIE, THAS LIKE MY FAV MOVIE OF ALL TIME IDGAF WHAT NOBODY THINKS THAT MOVIE I SO GOOD THEY BETTER NOT PLAY ROUND WID THAT

@UncommonCriticisms2147

9 ай бұрын

Try telling that to the suits in Hollywood. They don't care just as long as they can make money off of the average consumer's blind ignorance

I know Harry Potter has hit rock bottom as an I.P but Timothee Chamalet would make for a great young Severus Snape in a hypothetical Maurauders TV/Film prequel.

@firstsonofthesea7938

9 ай бұрын

Who tf told you Harry Potter hit rock bottom you people just make shit up daily 😂😂😂

@jeffwoods4406

9 ай бұрын

TAKE THAT IDEA TO THE WHITE HOUSE RIGHT NOW

@Attmay

3 ай бұрын

No, it hasn’t, and anyone who says so will be sued by JK Rowling.

0:29 of course, everyone knows Wicked is the better wizard of oz prequel

@UncommonCriticisms2147

9 ай бұрын

Don't forget Manos: The Rise of Torgo. That was a great prequel too (too bad nobody watched it)

I'm kinda confused of when it's supposed to take place 😭

Hi

@zeepsterd

9 ай бұрын

Hey!

I disagree. I think if you really loved the original, youd recognise that a prequel is entirely unnecessary and could potentially only serve to cheapen that same original. To use Star Wars as an example, in the original, we are told Vader was seduced by the dark side, only to find out that he was just tricked into it by Palpy.