i find it 'interesting that those who climb to the top despite it being hideously dangerous weather, and perish on the way down are somehow seen as 'better' mountaineers, than those who make the wise, calculated decision to turn back and summit another day. The 'best' mountaineers are the ones who know when to keep going and when to turn back

@sarahpiaggio2693

2 жыл бұрын

yes, when someone doesn't make it down the mountain safely after summitting, that isn't normally counted as a summit at all. Getting to the top is only half the job. Like a good pilot, having the wisdom and strength of character to say "I'm not running that risk" even when people call you a coward is a quality of the best climbers

@stephenking4794

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. Fun when you're single, but when you have a partner, have children,,,,time to pack it in. Your children demand and have the right to see you every single day of their young lives. From newborn to toddler, to teenager. Those porters, Sherpas? Guaranteed, if they could find a better job to support their family they wouldn't be on any mountain.😶🤔🤔

@vessela7484

2 жыл бұрын

They’re not seen as better at all. The best mountaineers are always the ones who know when to turn around

@matthewsheffer

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve climbed Aconcagua and Denali. The reason most die on the way down, is summit fever. At high altitudes, some of the smartest climbers, become slightly impaired due to the altitude and this will cause them to make poor decisions. Summit fever is one of those. They’ll use their last bit of energy getting to the top and they’ll think they’re fine, because walking downhill is easier than going uphill, right? True, but that concept doesn’t apply with mountaineering.

@qbasic16

2 жыл бұрын

🙌

I climbed out of bed this morning. The sheer exhilaration of summitting the toilet is, well, beyond words.

@easygrowing9928

Жыл бұрын

Hilarious!

@ursinha115

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha

@TheBarbieazteca

Жыл бұрын

Best comment ever

@jesscarter6504

Жыл бұрын

You just MADE my day... and I've made the toilet summit.. and now am in Base Camp at the recliner with coffee!!!!

@graina88

Жыл бұрын

Nice summit

You don't triumph over a mountain. You might survive it. Mountains are indifferent to ambition.

@stevensonrf

2 жыл бұрын

Excellent point!

@morkusmorkus6040

2 жыл бұрын

Oh so you're telling me that a mountain is just an inanimate lump of rock? Gee...who would have thunk it.

@stevensonrf

2 жыл бұрын

@@morkusmorkus6040 You need to make sure that you use the rocks proper pronouns🤣

@DennisGr

Жыл бұрын

yeah well, survival in the face of insurmountable adversity is the ultimate triumph and always the primary goal for every reproducing organism. you're still right tho, the mountain is unimpressed either way and untroubled by the comings and goings of our small human perspective.

@Taydrum

Жыл бұрын

Thats what the mountain wants you to think! /s

The reason I liken climbers to addicts of other behaviors is summed up by Chantal's friend, the French climber/filmmaker who says "...was i expecting for Chantal die ?...yes..she was looking for something more and did not know where to stop.".

can you imagine getting physically blown off the side of a mountain from miles up? that sounds truly and utterly terrifying to me.

@corriethomson4431

2 жыл бұрын

@@lisafoos8976 well actually humans have an innate evolutionary fear of heights...

@vertihvost7675

2 жыл бұрын

They can use a wing suit and fly

@politicallycorrectredskin796

2 жыл бұрын

At least it's quick. Being buried alive by an avalanche is a lot worse. Or like the dude on the North Face in the 30s who died dangling from the end of a rope in about 48 hours. Give me quick and horrifying over slow and horrifying any day.

@incidentalist

2 жыл бұрын

Well, I mean. It's probably over fairly quick.

@markc1456

2 жыл бұрын

@@politicallycorrectredskin796poor Toni Kurz had a horrible death on the north face of the Eiger

The Sherpas deserve far more glory than any climber.

@nicolosito

Жыл бұрын

Reinhold Messner's epic solo climbs of Mt. Everest were made without the assistance of Sherpa. Your point is a good one, thogh.

@tankmaker9807

Жыл бұрын

@@nicolosito Who set up, supplied and supported the base camp he started from?

@nicolosito

Жыл бұрын

@@tankmaker9807 I'm not sure how material that is. No one should deny the importance of sherpas. The point I am making is that there has been an evolution in the use of Sherpas over the years as professional climbers have on the whole become less reliant on sherpas, in terms of the climbing phase of the expeditions, compared to the past. Compare, if you will, Messner's solo climb of Everest in 1980 (I think) with the 1924 British attempt to climb Everest (during which Mallory and Irvine were lost) or the 1953 expedition led by Sir John Hunt in which Tenzing obviously played a key role but in addition there were numerous other sherpas needed to set up the upper camps.

@tankmaker9807

Жыл бұрын

@@nicolosito I can agree, however, no Sherpa's, no climbing on Everest. It's that simple. Their efforts make it possible.

@R8V10

Жыл бұрын

Not forgetting the porters. The weight they carry is commendable.

"I come here for enjoy.. but I don't want to take the risk. I have people who love me in my house" The words of a selfless climber. Respect to Armando.

@callalilly1988

Жыл бұрын

A decent man.

@antmandan97

Жыл бұрын

I actually clapped out loud for him when he said that..

@Lilmickcrocodiledundee0001

Жыл бұрын

When did he say that? I missed it

@Mrbfgray

Жыл бұрын

Not selfless, *just not THAT self centered* which is normal for our species. (pardon semantics 'lesson' but there's an important point)

@Mrbfgray

Жыл бұрын

Just climb and never descend and y'all be fine and dandy.

i do not judge women who are mothers for climbing BUT i do question the parents who climb together on the same mountain at the same time, as some have, and risking leaving children as orphans. At the very least, one climbs one day the other, another time, that way one least ne parent will make it back

@mahatchiko602

2 жыл бұрын

Hi 👋🏾 beloved Queen B, yes you are so very right! Maybe you understand better, when you see it us a Drug! When high waves 🌊 of Adrenaline, is rushing trough their Body ❗️🙀🤷🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🃏That’s the kick ❗️🤦🏽‍♀️

@ambecappmanikam3351

2 жыл бұрын

@@mahatchiko602 Very true, i agree. The adrenaline rush must be so great that make their kids's future immaterial to such parents, whether mummy or daddy, coz kids need both parents, not just only mummy, but also daddy. Its hell life for any single parent to raise their kids alone without their other half. Or do these parents know or bother, i wonder. M not against mountain climbers, secure your lives and your kids before your perilous climb. Is it really worth it? Heck, climbing mountains might be tough, but try succeeding to scale the mountainous effort of realising the Self, and fighting the evils from within. I assure you, you will get all that adrenaline rush without the peril. Wanna try take the challenge? Sages have climbed these mountains without nary any sophisticated equipment, and in the barest of clothing. All lie in the Mental Power, that comes with control of thoughts, words and deeds, for the good of all Mankind, not for mere gratification of base desires and mere desire for adrenaline rush and push for peril.

@drew7099

2 жыл бұрын

I am equally critical of men or women who unnecessarily endanger their lives and risk abandoning their children. It suggests they love climbing more than their children. The epitome of selfishness. When we become parents, we must be willing to sacrifice our own interests for the good of our family, who need us and deserve to have the love, support of parents … IMO.

@nickim6571

2 жыл бұрын

@@drew7099 What about people who are in the military or police and firemen or women? This is how many climbers earn a living.

@TheJan8421

2 жыл бұрын

A mountaineer is a mountaineer. I'm the "Armchair Mountaineer" and prefer to watch all this easily; rather than do it myself. Such hardship they endure, and sad moments along the way. Don't think this is so easy to do.

Wow....those porters fighting for the opportunity to carry heavy loads up mountains. I am again reminded to be extremely grateful for what I have.

"If you don't come back to base camp alive it didn't count..." says most professional climbers and ALL sherpas

@Za7a7aZ

Жыл бұрын

So this debate about Mallory and his friend summiting everest first is no debate at all..they didn't make it down so end of story

Not to diminish their accomplishments, but to say you conquered a mountain means you climbed to the top and made it back alive. They made it to the summit and that alone is amazing, not making it down means the mountain conquered you in the end.

@Lilmickcrocodiledundee0001

Жыл бұрын

💯

@Animal-Reaction-Clips

Жыл бұрын

I'm near there and I saw malka perbet and nanga perbet and I was really intimidated by their height oh my god the glaciers looked terrifying there was evidence of flooding and avalanches

@NamesIWantAreInvalid

Жыл бұрын

If you gave birth but the died in the process does that mean you never had children?

@Animal-Reaction-Clips

Жыл бұрын

@@NamesIWantAreInvalid if you don't know then you should just stfu.

@Ghostshadows306

Жыл бұрын

The mountain conquered them and totally kicked their as-es is what it did.

Cecilie (Bae) Skog summited in 2008. She is alive and well. Lost her husband Rolf during descent. RIP. Give credit to those who earned it. That was a tragic day where 11 climbers lost their lives

@ceeleegee825

Жыл бұрын

I thought the same thing at first, but this doco was made in 2003, and Cecilie summited in 2008

@derrekjones2129

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the additional information. I see a posting date Aug 2021, and dates of 2004 in the write up. Could not make out when this was produced. Probably my oversight

@semoneg2826

Жыл бұрын

2 parents with kids climbing at the same time

@omniexistus

Жыл бұрын

@@semoneg2826 splendid idea!

@MsMaxine306

11 ай бұрын

Oh yeah that's right, I forgot about her. Thanks.

There is no shame in turning back; deciding against the climb. I've done so thousands of times.

I chose to be a dad... thats the only reason I haven't submitted the 8000s... and as my last child graduates highschool next year... it occures to me that I've climb nearly every peak in Montana/Alberta... and that has satisfied this mountaineer. I didn't die in the Himalayas... and I taught my children to climb.

@50megatondiplomat28

2 жыл бұрын

Great choice.

@colemarie9262

2 жыл бұрын

Good for you. I try not to judge ppl either way for choices like that, but it's very commendable to sacrifice what you want for loved ones who truly need you to be around.

@nicolegillespie4704

2 жыл бұрын

See..... Your a good father I have a lot of respect for Mother's and Father's who don't put themselves in high risk situations and their kids come first.

@anhserc3534

2 жыл бұрын

I’m curious as to effort required for the peaks you’ve done on a scale from 1-10

@wodidos

2 жыл бұрын

My grandfather was a great moutaineer who stood on top of almost every mountain in the swiss alps but when his kids were born he scaled way back on the risks and difficulty of the tours he was taking. Only reasonable thing to do. I hope to follow in his footsteps but right now im recuperating from screwing up my back working as a chef.

They never focus on how male mountaineers "combine fatherhood with climbing", but when it's female athletes, oh yes, this is the most important part, surely >__>

@maghrath1

2 жыл бұрын

Well, yeah cause for the most part it’s women who do most of the work when it comes to raising children

@lucydupertuis5166

2 жыл бұрын

@@maghrath1 Because most men won;t pitch in and help

@peelypeelmeister6432

2 жыл бұрын

@@lucydupertuis5166 Nah only the men you hang with. Keep climbing, you'll get there.

@kornelijekovac9793

2 жыл бұрын

@@lucydupertuis5166 It's not the help, but small children are really attached to their mothers more. Father can't replace their mother.

@sweetstormz

2 жыл бұрын

Right! I know that they aren’t asking these men about their wives and children. They act like women can’t have a life outside of motherhood. It pisses me off!

It's unbelievable that Alison Hargreaves's son Tom Ballard also died in 2019 while climbing Nanga Parbhat.

@vonmuller6577

2 жыл бұрын

Bad gene pool!

@houseofsolomon2440

2 жыл бұрын

Searching up high for his mother's spirit.

@Infamous159

2 жыл бұрын

@@houseofsolomon2440 im sure he found it...

@gmy33

2 жыл бұрын

Wow ... lesson in passion .. are you willing to die for something ? .. if the answer is ... yes .. you have real passion .. or stupidity ..

@houseofsolomon2440

2 жыл бұрын

@@Infamous159 Agreed and R.I.P.

Mountain climbing is a passion but at Homefront you have other responsibilities as well. You can't leave your kids to be in orphanage or stay guideless for rest of their lives. Parenting kids is also more challenging than submitting a peak.

@paxluporum4447

Жыл бұрын

So far it is proving to be more difficult than anything I survived in the Army. I'm only three years in. What they are doing is attempting to escape the reality that your life is metaphysically over the second you create a life. A parent exists to protect their child. Yes, risk your life in the pursuit of that but, anything else is hubris and selfishness.

@Mrbfgray

Жыл бұрын

Not that most of us fully grasp such a summit TBH. Would it be better for the kids to not be born at all? What makes you think orphanage? Highly doubt that was ever in the cards.

@paxluporum4447

Жыл бұрын

@@Mrbfgray I think what he was trying to communicate was something along the lines of, if your passion in life involves something as incredibly high risk as summiting these types of peaks maybe... don't bring children into the world who will place second to your own dangerous hobbies? Maybe I'm reading into something that isn't there.

@dishappywithlife2556

Жыл бұрын

@@paxluporum4447 agree

@KaliKali-hv9bt

Жыл бұрын

@@paxluporum4447 exactly

One of the things strange these wonderful doccos can bring about is seeing someone summit or be interviewed and you think, “oh - I like that person’s vibe” only to learn they got avalanched on nanga parbat in ‘88 or whatever. What a curious record these are.

@Animal-Reaction-Clips

Жыл бұрын

I'm there now nanga perbet and malka and they're so fkn intimidating the height.

@muddydog6605

11 ай бұрын

Yeah, I just did that with Christine Boskoff. No more googling for me.

I saw this documentary once, years ago. Unlocking my fascination for books on high altitude climbing and I've been looking for years for this documentary. Thank you for uploading!

Alison Hargreaves was a legend ....but as a climber u have to respect the conditions of the mountain ....the second u ignore the weather ...or other conditions of the mountain ...u die .... there is a fine line between bravery and foolishness

@sweetstormz

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. It’s their hubris that leads to their own demise. The Sherpas know what’s up. They proper know those mountains. The minute certain climbers choose to ignore their Sherpas warnings is the minute they choose a horrible outcome.

@Riley512

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Peter Hillary turned back and he is still alive.

@vonytidmar7759

Жыл бұрын

Her son also gave his life following in her footsteps tragic.

@jonschlottig9584

Жыл бұрын

Summit fever is real; it's what ends up killing most who die up there. People should speak of Allison with the respect. She was an incredible climber who made an unwise decision on an unforgiving mountain.

@user-ct8ee8od6o

11 ай бұрын

She also left her kids orphans...

Sherpas are the real climbers here, don't let these sociopaths decieve you.

@januszdworak4780

2 жыл бұрын

Well. The Sherpas have not climbed any 8-thousander before ....................... [I can't finish this sentence for the obvious reason :) :) :)]

@petergianakopoulos4926

2 жыл бұрын

Sherpas are genetically predisposed to climb

Men are not capable of climbing to 8000m without the help of 40 other men (sherpas)

@keiththompson2172

2 жыл бұрын

Men are the Sherpas !

@Mutiny960

2 жыл бұрын

Are Sherpas not Men?? Wtf is your problem?

@GIBBO4182

2 жыл бұрын

Sexist comment, just for the sake of being sexist…grow up!

@Mutiny960

2 жыл бұрын

@@GIBBO4182 Dont like facts? Stay off the damn internet

@brandonsavitski

2 жыл бұрын

I snuck up the mountain and didn't pay any fees for permits nor did I get any Sherpas to help me. I did it on my own. It did it naked without gear or anything. I used my bare hands, feet, and Johnny Johnson as my pick axe.

damn...9:55 it always gets me when a grown man starts crying about a lost son/daughter...Like he just couldn't hold it in. You know the pain is still strong.

@jamisbillson4872

2 жыл бұрын

Her son Tom died on Nanga Parbat recently too.

@kaizer2k2

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamisbillson4872 rest in peace

@gracie1312

2 жыл бұрын

This sentiment, while well intentioned, perpetuates the sexist gender roles that for example Thor Kieser, the guy in the video @32:00, was pushing. Men are not more or less emotional than women, women crying isn't the standard and and it is not more significant when men cry. These behaviours should be normalised and accepted as human.

@Shortana

Жыл бұрын

@@gracie1312 Amen!

@DENVEROUTDOORMAN

Жыл бұрын

@Grace Nakimura women say that in one breath and deny it in another

Poignant seeing footage of Tom Ballard as a kid; like his mother he also died on a mountain, in 2019 at the age of 30.

@clevelandplonsey7480

3 ай бұрын

So messed up

Great video! I enjoyed every minute except for every time Thor Kieser appeared on screen and then proceeded to open his mouth. 🙃

Weird that a guy who thinks women shouldn't climb fell in love with a female climber. Definitely not bitter.

@shesoverit2302

2 жыл бұрын

Bitter? The fact he fell in love with her doesn’t change the fact that an elite athlete woman is still a bottom performing athlete man. Stats prove this throughout the majority of sports.

@shesoverit2302

2 жыл бұрын

Furthermore, others accounts of her climb and photo evidence prove that she would’ve died on her descent if he didn’t put himself at risk to save her. Also look at the success rate of men versus women. Us women need to stop being such prideful victims and accept facts for what they are.

@Peace-tk3gr

2 жыл бұрын

@@shesoverit2302 bottom-performing? Dumb statement born of ignorance.

@boondocksso8898

2 жыл бұрын

@@Peace-tk3gr prove him wrong don’t be ignorant

@aaronwalker8847

2 жыл бұрын

@@shesoverit2302 WELL SAID - I mean, I have nothing against women doing sports - And I well know that men and women are equally important, we need each other to operate properly, its how we were built. And obviously men and women were built differently, for what they were designed and built/ created to do. but women trying to be as strong as men, is impossible.. Women forgot how to be women, in the process of being turned into - hu-mans/ who? mans.. Random specs of dust with no purpose and no creator, and no devil/rebellion led by lucifer (who obviously stole and destroyed the whole earth, as foretold) - men too, men have been turned into who?mans . They don'tknow what real marriage as defined by god is either. Nor what their purpose is, nor the purpose of this short life.. Its very sad. I wish they wouldn't turn folks into zombified hu-mans, whereby the women are always competing with and working against men 😒 I wish folks would learn to think for themselves, and learn to accept themselves for who and what they are (very special creations . Everything that was created, was created for mankind. So our creators can live through us inside of the earth) , and just appreciate the free gift of life, and the amazing way god (our father YHVH and Yahshua the christ) us men and women, different, but equally important.

Wanda Rutkiewicz was a legend in my native Poland, she was very competitive and tough just like other the other well known polish climbers .I always admired anybody who would venture to climb the Himalayas.

@robertscheinost179

2 жыл бұрын

Strange, I always thought they were mentally ill.

@Ehsan870

2 жыл бұрын

Poles are built differently when it comes to mountaineering.

@adambane1719

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ehsan870 The Germans taught them very well.

@kevinbrooks1104

Жыл бұрын

Poles , have no problem climbing in the worst conditions, much respect to Poland and the tough mentality that they have in thier heads and hearts

@MrSvenovitch

10 ай бұрын

And now they're very dead. We will all be very soon thanks to climate change and our short lifespans. Still, go up a mountain to try and speed things up. And tell yourself it's a glorious thing to do. Whatever keeps you from getting bored. 🤣

that one guy really got friendzoned in the deathzone and is being really bitter about it

@muddydog6605

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, people look really ugly when they're bitter and twisted.

@jenp3376

3 ай бұрын

My thoughts exactly. Not a good look.

@dagmastr12

3 ай бұрын

Yeah not a good place to meet women...😂

As a mother, I would rather take care of my children knowing the risks of climbing that mountain. They are worth my time and my life. But again every person is different. RIP to those who perish doing what they love the most.

Alison Hargreaves' son Tom Ballard also became a mountaineer like his mum. He climbed many mountains but sadly he died in 2019 after going missing on one of the mountains of Pakistan. They did eventually find Tom and his climbing buddy and took their remains home back to their families

@carmenl163

2 жыл бұрын

Can you imagine the grief of the family? Devastating...

@upsidedahead

2 жыл бұрын

@@carmenl163 yes his mum was very sad

@louise-yo7kz

2 жыл бұрын

🥺

@janebailey8032

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for that info!!!

@I_Art_Laughing

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome legacy. Darwin would approve.

I can't help feeling that climbers who do this and other deadly mountains should do so without risk to others such as rescuers who also risk their lives and die. Its not a need to climb its a want. Its pretty selfish, especially when you leave family behind when you didn't have to do it 😔

@jaredshepard8581

Жыл бұрын

Poor sherpas too.

@electvolt67

11 ай бұрын

I'm not a real climber but I've read more books than I'd care to admit. I've never heard the slightest insinuation of ANY climber expecting to get rescued. They know the risks.

@biggstavros5876

10 ай бұрын

@@electvolt67 No, they don`t want to get rescued - until they need to be rescued lol

@electvolt67

10 ай бұрын

@@biggstavros5876 truth.

So sad watching the porters BEG for work :( and by “compete” they mean who will take the job the cheapest :(

When you grow up wealthy with zero challenges in your path, you end up climbing mountains to feel alive...

@bigstyx

2 жыл бұрын

You’re exactly right I have friends that are wealthy and have wealthy children and they do things like you said just to stay alive or feel alive. There is a virtue of growing up hand to mouth it makes you appreciate life and small accomplishments.

@kasskath3578

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe you're right here. I commute on bicycle every day on London's busy streets. To me it's like a jungle, literally everything that's moving can kill you. Every bloody trip is like a survival. And every time an accident occurs to me and I end up not being hit by a car, I appreciate to be alive so much. After you've combatted the intrusive thoughts of "what would've happened if...", you feel so happy just to be alive. Who would've thought that, huh?

@SuperCatacata

2 жыл бұрын

I mean this is what happens when you come from a developed country... It put men into space, with methods that eventually gave you the internet to post this very comment. People with a sense of adventure need to do it somewhere. You just sit here and benefit from their bravery while doing nothing with yourself.

@katherineg9396

2 жыл бұрын

@@kasskath3578 I hope you don't have children and never do as long as you take part in such risky behavior.

@kasskath3578

2 жыл бұрын

@@katherineg9396 it's none of your businesses. Also what is this risky behaviour you're talking about? I assume you never leave home?

It doesn’t matter how good a shape you’re in…8m mountains have taken most of the world’s best Western climbers

@deadastronaut2440

Жыл бұрын

Wtf are you talking about? Your fitness is the most important thing in climbing!

@sneekz07

Жыл бұрын

Physical fitness does matter quite a lot actually.

@WesCarroll-ht6on

9 ай бұрын

No amount of fitness saves you in an avalanche buried beneath the snow Think about that

@Grandizer8989

3 ай бұрын

@@deadastronaut2440you missed my point. Edema and altitude sickness has taken the fittest of the fit. Not to mention avalanches.

I dont think anyone who goes to the mountains sees anyone as a "woman mountaineer, male mountaineer" the love of the mountains and the quest for person achievement unites. Scott Fisher is just as bad as Alison as far as I'm concerned, Scott left young children behind too.

@loulou7963

2 жыл бұрын

Look at Rob Hall. He left a pregnant wife !

@sweetstormz

2 жыл бұрын

Whoa! Really? I’m shocked because I didn’t know that Scott Fisher had children. From my perspective, Scott having young children is rarely mentioned.

@mikemulligan5731

Жыл бұрын

That is really stretching it, It's important to see people for who they are, not as a default "mountaineer".. It is possible to take the whole equality thing too far, people aren't equal, and life isn't fair.

When someone says they have conquered other 8000ers and came to summit k2, hope they realize those mountains were not k2. This is entirely something else. Even the sight of the bottleneck gives me chills.

@sheilabloom6735

Жыл бұрын

Mountains cannot be conquered; just summited.

@calebcostigan2561

Жыл бұрын

What do you mean? It’s pretty well accepted that the worst climb of the 8,000ers is Annapurna.

Nothing wrong with Chantelle having mens help down the mountain to live and doesn’t taint her legacy because Many MEN couldn’t make it down the mountain without another man’s help… we are all a team..

That's pretty hilarious having Thor Kieser saying women can't climb 8k mountains without the power of men. He can't climb an 8k mountain without the power of men! Unless he climbed 8k mountains without Sherpas or porters, he has no place to talk. Sherpas and porters are the only reason most of these climbers succeed, they are the true mountaineering champs.

@artvandelay7251

2 жыл бұрын

Some outrageously sexist comments by that guy

@victoriapendleton4099

2 жыл бұрын

@@artvandelay7251 but he's right

@MELODYMUNRO

2 жыл бұрын

@@victoriapendleton4099 BS

@mjjf26

2 жыл бұрын

@@victoriapendleton4099 But he's a hypocrite

@colemarie9262

2 жыл бұрын

Right? You have locals carrying every ounce of the gear you use to survive, so you can climb freely and claim to "summit". Pfffft ok buddy. Edit: and here we find the reason for his bitterness- he says he was in love with Chantal.....of course while managing to insult her too. I'd bet a lot she didn't feel the same way.

So much focus on those two climbers at the end and their struggles on the mountain. I'm thinking...."what about the person or persons who are up their with them filming it?

The sheer raging sexism in mountaineering was a whole separate mountain that women had to climb, and never mind that many Sherpas are women, too!

Another incredible video David, thank you!

Love the first comment. “I think they have a need to compete with men.” Or maybe they’re women who enjoy climbing

@OmosThings

Жыл бұрын

I know right?? I was eating and had to double take on that one!

Having small children and attempting something like this is pure stupidity.

@theyracemesohardchair

2 жыл бұрын

That’s racist

@taraalan1131

2 жыл бұрын

@@theyracemesohardchair Don’t be silly.

@mercoid

2 жыл бұрын

Lots of people sell their motorcycle when they have children.

@cherryrotella3714

2 жыл бұрын

Yes I do agree with you!

@gracie1312

2 жыл бұрын

The irony is you can only achieve such a feat at the same age you are likely to have children; when you are physically and mentally most fit.

Can someone explain why climbing without supplementary oxygen is something to aspire to? Climbing with all the other things is enough of a challenge isn’t it? I respect people who do what they love regardless of the risks but a pity they die as a result.

@TS-mo6pn

Жыл бұрын

oxygen is seen as a crutch by some. Others see the apparatus as extra weight and would rather travel light.

@shoshonesasquatch1642

Жыл бұрын

I wish some of them would just carry a spare bottle with them. I'm sure that simple action would have saved so many. But I'm sure it is heavier and bulkier. I've also never climbed anything like what they climb so idk what I'm talking about either.

@flyingrover9022

Жыл бұрын

@@shoshonesasquatch1642 a small bottle would not sustain the climber on the descent

@jarnold1789

Жыл бұрын

In climbing and mountaineering style matters a lot, and the more stripped down the purer it is. Reaching a summit using bottled oxygen, fixed ropes, and high altitude porters is no where near as impressive as doing it in alpine style (climbing fully self supported) and without bottled oxygen

@tmafungo84

11 ай бұрын

​@@jarnold1789impressive to who? Risk limb and life to impress who? What mighty stupidity.

I love doing a great many things, some dangerous too....but I have found nothing that I love more than being alive!!!

@stephenking4794

2 жыл бұрын

YES.

Nice look from an alternative angle at climbing, but I didn‘t feel the need to contrast women climbing with men climbing? Wouldn‘t a history of women climbing be interesting in its own right?

@b.w.22

2 жыл бұрын

Eh, especially up through the 80’s, mountaineering and climbing was such a “macho” kind of thing. I think the rise of the supremely competent women rock climbers through the 90’s did a great deal to normalize women’s place in that climbing world: I mean, you can think guys are “better” at mountains, but if you rock-climb 5.11 and there’s some gal smoking you climbing 5.12, well, she’s objectively a better climber. But I agree that a look at women’s mountaineering, especially given the style of Soviet mountaineering like you pointed out below, would be really interesting and maybe leaving out the guys half-shitting on the accomplishments of these gals who summited multiple 8000m peaks because “they always knew they were unsafe.” I mean jeez, successes and failures loom large when there are tens of these women among hundreds of guys that ate it on mountains as well.

Tom Ballard, son of Allison Hargreaves was lost on Nanga Parbat, 2019. May they both rest in peace.

@Animal-Reaction-Clips

Жыл бұрын

I'm there now its so fkn hught n glacier. Why they climb this mountain? I was intimidating

@LathropLdST

Жыл бұрын

@@Animal-Reaction-Clips has the altitude got to your redaction?

@Animal-Reaction-Clips

Жыл бұрын

@@LathropLdST it got to my contraction

@stephen_crumley

11 ай бұрын

@@Animal-Reaction-Clipsdid you climb ??

@Animal-Reaction-Clips

11 ай бұрын

@@stephen_crumley there was a flood that happened and many rocks were loose and dangerous. I climbed 4,500 before we came back down

One of the best Ive watched from your channel.

Was just thinking that I've watched all of David Snow's uploads... Then this. THANK YOU!

04:50 The mountain has been unfriendly?!? Pretty sure the mountain does not care, at all. It has been just sitting there, peacefully, for centuries. Millennia even. Why blame the mountain for all the little specs that decide to go die there each year?!? Weird.

@Timmothy_plays

2 жыл бұрын

I dunno, you'd be surprised how quickly the weather can switch from calm to outright storm levels of intensity within the matter of minutes~

@circomnia9984

2 жыл бұрын

@@Timmothy_plays Still not the mountain's fault.

@Pulapaws

Жыл бұрын

So true the same go for the goats that live on mountains they don’t even show no fear. Sometimes accidentally knock one off by just playing with each other with their horns. The crazy death I saw near a mountain is when a eagle mistake man bold head for a rock and drop a turtle on him killing the man instantly.

@circomnia9984

Жыл бұрын

@@Pulapaws You didn't see that. That was the Greek playwright Aeschylus. What a weird thing to lie about.

Cecilie Skog did it in 2008, but lost her husband in the same day in the K2, so it is sad to read that some men say that woman can not do it. And she is still very much alive.

@prancer4743

Жыл бұрын

That’s only 1 woman out of thousand men not good example listen to the video 🫣🫢😳😮😀🧐👍⬆️

Wanda Rutkiewicz and Jerzy Kukuczka were two legendary Polish climbers. They both were extremly tough. They two were friends too and respected each other. Wanda was famous, among others with the fact that she was able to defeat some men in arm wrestling. She did it with great reflex, speed, by surprise. Primarily she was going to be a professional volleyball player, but due to an injury she left it and became a climber. She loved also car racing. Jerzy - Jurek Kukuczka was so tough that he could survive even 3 days during climbing 8000m peaks without food, with a very small amount of water, which he could get only by melting snow on a gas stove, and sometimes without it, by extremly low temperatures, bad weather and without a tent. He climbed 4 eight tousand peaks in winter, 3 of them as first climber, 2 of them within 1 winter. I will remember Jurek as one of the greatest climbers and greatest Poles in history till end of my life. I hope Wanda and Jurek rest in peace.

@teddyjackson1902

11 ай бұрын

She ded

@annnee6818

11 ай бұрын

​@@teddyjackson1902They're both dead. But does that mean they didn't do cool stuff. We all die.

@teddyjackson1902

11 ай бұрын

@@annnee6818 some of us raise our children and have long and satisfying lives surrounded by love and family and not lost on a frozen rock pre middle-age.

@MrSvenovitch

10 ай бұрын

They got really cool yes, many degrees below zero I'm sure.

@KowalskyLeon

10 ай бұрын

@@teddyjackson1902 How do you know they didn't have satysfying lives? I wish you and your whole family could see at least 10% what they saw and lived through in the mountains.

At some point in perhaps the early 1980’s, this idea crept in that parents “have a responsibility to their children” as opposed to “a parent’s responsibility IS their children” Once kids are grown & out it’s a different story altogether but when those little ones depend on you entirely things need to be kept in perspective. Young minor children are not “an element in one’s life” They are one’s life. Daredevil parents are acting on misplaced priorities as are parents who cheat and risk the destruction of their homes & families. I’ve no doubt that my remark will trigger half of those who read it but the other half are saying “amen.” And a blind man could see that in 2022 our society is in deep, deep trouble.

@annnee6818

11 ай бұрын

Our society being in trouble is a fact as old as dirt. We've always been in trouble and sorta survived. But parents care and invest way more into their children than they ever have before, so that's not a good measure for "trouble"

@maddraugr4667

2 ай бұрын

Amen.

These are daredevils who really love this as a rather obsessive hobby. I don’t think of them as heroic or anything. I admire the skill and physical stamina! What an achievement really to actually get to the summit and get back safely!! They are all so very brave! I am scared of heights!!!!

I think that its like other extreme sport where odds play a big factor.The more someone does anything that has imposes some risk, the greater chance they have of facing those risks..But thats part of what drives someone.

Climbers are fathers too. What's the difference?

Wanda Rutkiewicz, your spirit and magnificence lives forever

@garytolodziecki5326

2 жыл бұрын

She's DEAD. Why don't you join her.

I have a more of a blunt question as a woman. Having period out in the mountains with pain can I guess be mitigated. But. I am a heavy lifter, a bodybuilder and we ALL know that there is a Lutheal phase when you feel weak af, when your body mass increases due to liquid retention and you are very prone to injuries. All of that combined, at a 8 000 meter peak. Just wondering.

@kaalen24

2 жыл бұрын

I would imagine you taking a break during this time. If you are already severely weakened by lack of oxygen and food, I would imagine being ill from menstration would be a good time to lay low in a tent ⛺️

@MrPALEHORSERIDER

2 жыл бұрын

Not all women suffer to your extent. My wife walks through hers with very little discomfort.

@skullsaintdead

2 жыл бұрын

Just take the pill continuously, you can do it for 2-3 months without even spotting. Women with period pain do it all the time, perfectly safe. Or get the Mirena IUD, can stop bleeding altogether (not necessarily pain though).

@traveler7929

2 жыл бұрын

Better living through chemistry means you can actually not have periods if you don’t want to these days.

Intelligent and well-made. A fascinating look at women who climb, and the choices they must make.

It should be called mountain fever , or summit fever , it’s like a fever sets in and when that happens no one can change these mountaineers mind !

@mahatchiko602

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, they become addicted, to this Thrilling Moments❗️🤦🏽‍♀️🦸‍♂️Very sad, because they bring danger to the Group and to themselves ❗️🙏🏾🙀🏥

@aussiechris5904

2 жыл бұрын

are you not aware that it IS already called summit fever?

@SunLife-gy1eu

Жыл бұрын

Climbing is like taking magic mushrooms. It's scary, unpleasant, but you still want to experience it again. The difference is that taking shrooms is safe.

lol that guy saying women can't climb 8k peaks without men supporting them... well let's see these men climb without all the sherpas and porters supporting them! edit: the point is EVERYONE needs help from men to climb these 8k peaks, are we gonna say only people who can do it without any male help are allowed to be up there? then there'd be like 1 person on the mountain every 10 years lmao

@ElizabethKC1994

2 жыл бұрын

Or even other team members. In most of these docs, men end up saving other men. Why is it so horrendous when it’s a man supporting a woman down the mountain. That’s just being a good person, not the one needing help being a hinderance

@fernandogomes2472

2 жыл бұрын

Buhl and Messner climbed alone

@ElizabethKC1994

2 жыл бұрын

@@fernandogomes2472 okay? How does that disprove my point?

@wolfie_lexi7352

2 жыл бұрын

@Objectivity yaks are Male too lmao

@spookrockcity

2 жыл бұрын

Andrew legit doesnt know what a male is. Lmfao.

Wow what a incredible story. I could watch that over and over. Some day I hope she makes it to the top.

@danielmata499

Жыл бұрын

She never did

was like wow musta missed this one but nah just uploaded 4 hours ago! doing gods work David

The Julie lady dying when her partner didn’t could be due to many things. It is mentioned that they had both had fallen and struggled on for the descent. They got stuck in their tents 5 days in a storm and she died. Who knows whether or not she had internal injuries from her fall? I suggest she very well might have. Some sort of slight internal bleeding that she might have survived were she not on the mountain. Has anyone suggested that and explored the possibility?

When you care more about a mountain than your family...

@cathyizzo7886

Жыл бұрын

She can't talk to her kids because she misses them too much.....hmmmm. Sorry kids mommy doesn't even want to talk to you because it makes her feel so bad that she doesn't want to be with you....

@eirschu8973

Жыл бұрын

Lmao she made her choice, I applaud her. What a legend. Kids will be fine.

@tonyscott1066

Жыл бұрын

Sad very

Hi David I'm from Australia so most of us are surfers or something but your vids are firing up something inside me if I had my time again I might have actually given climbing a go anyway I understand the not turning around when you should but it's so sad to see all these deaths it just seems like a waisted and there bodies just lying in the open god I wish I had the strength to get them down anyway mate thank you for the great footage and heart wrenching stories 👍

@garytolodziecki5326

2 жыл бұрын

Surfing is different from freezing to Death and getting blown of a mountain.

@upsidedahead

2 жыл бұрын

Wallarbrawanga

@andrewbyfield5040

2 жыл бұрын

@@garytolodziecki5326 Uh huh oh I thought it was pretty much the same??????

@garytolodziecki5326

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewbyfield5040 clarify, Both are athletic, sorry,

@adambane1719

2 жыл бұрын

@@garytolodziecki5326 Surfing IS riding mountains.... in the freezing cold.... with sharks ! Check out Mavericks on YT and educate yourself !

hello David Thank you for the excellent documentation. The passion for the mountain cannot be put into words. I wish you good tours. With alpine greetings Raphael Wellig

Wonderful video, thanks for sharing!

That beautiful and tremendous expression.. she could not distinguish life from something more.. very fine line. RIP

Love these videos. What a double standard regarding mothers who want to climb. They don't say the same about fathers!

@ohsweetmystery

2 жыл бұрын

They should. If a thrill matters more to you than your children, you probably shouldn't have produced them in the first place.

@NoseyFloridaGirl

2 жыл бұрын

I say the same about them . Have children , or have a spouse? Don’t needlessly risk your life . But that’s just me .

@garytolodziecki5326

2 жыл бұрын

Why don't you join her and have fun.???

@reshiramo

2 жыл бұрын

Women and Men are NOT the same! Thats nature and no political "correct" movement will ever change that in eternity. And YES there is a difference between a mother and a father deciding to climb on a mountain like that.

@rchristy4540

2 жыл бұрын

I say it about the fathers. When you grow up without one, it's pretty Fkn important.

You just made my day... thank you

i plan on going to mount everest next year. several mountaineer consultant based in asia and usa and i done research and find that i will be the first deaf person in the world that will reach to top summit and back to ground

@garytolodziecki5326

2 жыл бұрын

Don't Die. How can you hear an avalanche.?? Buy Sherpa's.

@rchristy4540

2 жыл бұрын

They could feel it before you hear it Gary.

@stephenspiker498

2 жыл бұрын

@@rchristy4540 Excatly!!!! plus i can see it. also i went to 5 different summits in this world. i am at professional level…

@rchristy4540

2 жыл бұрын

@@stephenspiker498 best of luck to you Stephen. Make a video for us when you get back.👍

@Jay5-0

2 жыл бұрын

Godspeed Stephen!!

So I guess you Hammer out your own tin plaque before you start climbing? It would be the charitable thing to do...

@skullsaintdead

2 жыл бұрын

We all might as well. It's inevitable, right?

Getting to the summit is optional Getting down is not

@roberthickerty390

2 жыл бұрын

Well, it is optional how you get down. Frankly, I think mountain climbers are bit nuts but it may be because I am not very comfortable about heights. Or blizzards. Or freezing. Or falling. I think I will watch the videos and stay on flat ground.

@giyavictoria3747

2 жыл бұрын

I never gone to no super high mountains, but I had a fair share of climbing; and the going down is worse than going up, the knees tremble and you fight gravity while avoiding to step on the wrong spot, theres no other option, unless you wanna be a Tarzan 😆

@PInk77W1

2 жыл бұрын

@@giyavictoria3747 I was a tree climber for 30yrs. Going down we just loosen the knot

But some people must feel partly dead normally, and so to be on the edge, close to death, helps them to regain a feeling of being alive. Most of us feel alive, “being present, “ normally; no need to challenge death.

@skiguru99

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting comment.

@MrSpanks

2 жыл бұрын

@Shirley Mason - yeah, interesting comment! As expected, there are a lot of negative comments regarding parents risking their lives - no one has mentioned the undying NEED to accomplish their goals. There must be A HUGE driving force behind eg. a mother to attempt something as risky as this.

@MrSpanks

2 жыл бұрын

@Shirley Mason Additional : Lots of folk are happy enough doing what they do - honestly, that's great! Slightly different (but relevant!) - my ex said to me, whilst coming to the end of her PhD (very hard times!), that if only she could be happy without striving for her chosen career - she wished she didn't have this ambition!

@MrSpanks

2 жыл бұрын

@@kenvoegele2033 You don't think who gets what?!

@garytolodziecki5326

2 жыл бұрын

Just do drugs and stay at home,their is your rush.

Great story! For all the men and women!

RIP 🙏 TO ALL THE 5 WOMEN THAT DIED DOING SOMETHING THEY LOVED DOING,,,

@rchristy4540

2 жыл бұрын

I'm sure that's a great comfort to their children. Not.

@garytolodziecki5326

2 жыл бұрын

@@lisafoos8976 agree.

@Phoenixhunter157

2 жыл бұрын

@@garytolodziecki5326 *they’re*… 😂😂😂😂😂wow. The irony of that error is hilarious

@juanitaduval9856

2 жыл бұрын

@@rchristy4540 I agree. What about the children ?

@juanitaduval9856

2 жыл бұрын

@@lisafoos8976 I so agree

Alison Hargreaves was in a league of her own. The year she died on K2 was when a hurricane force wind killed several people on K2.

@standupstraight9691

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, a league of dead people.

@whataboat

2 жыл бұрын

A legacy passed on to her son who also died on a mountain in 2019

@supergrahamg

2 жыл бұрын

the smart mountaineers are the ones with grey hair

@giyavictoria3747

2 жыл бұрын

@@standupstraight9691 she might be dead, but you and I will never achieve what she had. It's even sadder were on youtube and alive while most professional mountaineers are working out for their next adventure. Is being physically alive a better achievement than those who lived their lives, even if it means death. (This applies to soldiers too)

@standupstraight9691

2 жыл бұрын

@@giyavictoria3747 . These people fight gravity for thrills. Their business to be sure. Seems like a futile exercise to some.

lol. "Should a mother risk their life for the summit?" Should a FATHER risk THEIR life for the summit?

@dudedude4034

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry but you didn’t get the memo….

@whyareyoulikethis2819

2 жыл бұрын

@The Most Illusive Man Nobody should be drafted and put in combat roles for war, we shouldn't even have war to begin with, but seeing as war exists yes, women should also be drafted.

@Smokey66s

2 жыл бұрын

Personal choice.

@lornarettig3215

2 жыл бұрын

It‘s hard for me to understand how/ why any parent puts themselves at this kind of risk, and being away from their children for such a long time for each of these expeditions… I‘m not here to judge so I just hope all these parents feel their choices were worth it, as they sadly, but rather inevitably, plummet one day to their deaths. For me it wouldn‘t be (and I don‘t even have children).

@whyareyoulikethis2819

2 жыл бұрын

@@lornarettig3215 Yeah I can't quite understand it either. Even if the parent feels "this was worth it", what about how the kid feels? How does it affect them to think that mommy or daddy preferred to risk their life climbing a mountain instead of taking a normal family vacation?

Hector is a hell of a guy! He was in another documentary i watced, and he was so selfless on Everest! Great guy!

@lordtette

11 ай бұрын

What's the name of the doc?

3:11 “She’s not what you’d expect.” *is exactly what I’d expect lol

I can appreciate all the challenges and desires to do it...I can speak from experience but nearly lost my life on a mountain.I was very lucky to survive.

@MrSvenovitch

10 ай бұрын

I hope you found new and interesting ways to try and needlessly reduce your lifespan out of boredom afterwards. Have you tried alligator wrestling?

What an amazing documentary👍👍👍

Yeah, old post. Didn’t realize the timeline when I posted. More importantly, I wanted to recognize her accomplishment at such a great loss. Peace and blessings to you. Posting with respect and love.❤

Thor Kieser seems like a right weirdo

@djclawson

2 жыл бұрын

He seems like a quality person who's definitely not nursing a grudge against the climber who dumped him.

@wegfarir1963

28 күн бұрын

Lel

26:45 I don't think you can discount the effect just plain old body mass has on survival at high altitudes. Specifically, the smaller your body mass the quicker one loses core heat.

@ShadowWizard123

Жыл бұрын

@@nomadpurple6154 mass and height are very different measures

My huge respect to those brave women who try, god i pray to keep them safe and well. Just getting to concordia is a big challenge even in climbing season and the local pahari people are amazing how they cope and endure life there.

I really enjoyed this,was an emotional journey..

They are a great couple. Arecelli and Hector and special and Great climbers. I only know them from videos and Stories told about them in books but their stories are captivating.

I heared an interview with a Sherpa and totally felt what he shared. The Sherpas who know the mountains best since it's their native environment, are paid 4000 to 5000, by foreigners who profit from what is not theirs, by organising expeditions for 10 thousands of dollars! The Sherpas should take control of their heritage. I can now understand why they sometimes get overheated when doing business with foreigners. Since it's the Sherpas who carry everything and search for safe routes.

@squeakyrabbit

11 ай бұрын

The amazing Sherpas should be also be making *and keeping* 90% of any profit made, for themselves and their families.

@TC-dw6wg

10 ай бұрын

“The Sherpas SHOULD take control of their heritage”. All that needs to be written as to where the responsibility lies.

@loditx7706

7 ай бұрын

@@TC-dw6wg It seems they already have control. They could simply refuse to perform the functions for which they are hired. I doubt that many, if any, groups could even begin without the presence and assistance of the Sherpas, but that income is needed by them, so they must choose where to make a stand. But they do have choices; for instance they could agree among themselves limits on how much they’ll carry and how high they’ll go. Wow, I’m advocating union and collective bargaining for Sherpas, but why not?

@bridgetrodriguez4643

5 ай бұрын

They are not profiting from what isnt theirs. The Sherpas are paid well and its by their choice to be guides. Noone made them go on the mountain 🏔️

@loditx7706

5 ай бұрын

@@bridgetrodriguez4643 Yeah, like there’s so many options for other employment in Nepal and Tibet; although since China controls the Tibet ascent side that option is not viable, I guess.

I am humbly reminded that there are those, strong, brave and courageous Sherpa's that risk their lives to make a living for their families, let them not be forgotten. 😢 I'm proud to be a woman in today's society and cheer for those that take on these monumental adventures of climbing these spectacular mountains.... may the force be with you all. Go safe. x

That one guy who was absolutely adamant about his position on women climbers was a total weirdo

If you dont make it back down. Then it doesnt count. Getting up is the easy part. Making it back is where most die.

that thor guy needs a slap... what a creep

@brandonsavitski

2 жыл бұрын

Can you blame him for wanting to slap skins with the opposite sex?

Absolutely brilliant

The problem with K2 is ego. Everest used to be the goal until they turned it into Disney world. Now people think K2 is where the respect is so folks are going there before they are ready. I'm no mountain climber nor would I claim to be. But you don't have to be a climber or an astronaut to look at at pictures of Everest and K2 an know immediately that the task of climbing them is no where near the same. For enough money you can hire folks to carry you up and down Everest. There isn't the money or an army big enough to carry you up and down K2.

@Animal-Reaction-Clips

Жыл бұрын

I've seen it and seen malka perbet and nanga too and ill tell you I'm never climbing those mountains no way. I was so intimidated when I saw them and thought why in the fkn hell would people want to climb this like literally its a death trap

Spoiler: She didn't make the summit and is still alive today.

great stories, i'm inspired to maybe climb the savage mountain one day.

@conzmoleman

2 жыл бұрын

eff that. do heroin. it feels just as good if not better, is just as deadly if not less, and feels a hell of a lot more warm and cozy. i’m enjoying this documentary on a wondrous, blissful dose of methadone as i type this.

Woman who climb mountains are Superwoman.. I'm a Man an I'm proud of their courage.